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'So if someone says "I love the Asian race the best", I say - "Good for you; I hope you have the freedom to follow your dreams". And if someone says "I love the African race the best", I say - "Good for you; I hope you have the freedom to follow your dreams"'.
What curious conversations take place where you live... Balaam (talk) 09:12, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
- You think no one says, "I love the Asian race the best" or "I love the African race the best"? Um, Black pride, Asian pride? Now, where I fall out with the so-called "white pride" crowd, is most of them deep down inside want to argue that white is somehow objectively "better" than non-white, but I don't. To me, value is subjective and just a reflection of personal preferences, so it is impossible for any race to be greater than any other race objectively; but any race can hold a greater place in your heart, if you will let it. (Or have the self-honesty to admit that it already has that position, as uncomfortable as that might be to those indoctrinated with contemporary liberalism.) I love the white race (talk) 09:19, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
- Translation - "I am not a racist but... I don't like darkies". Innocent Bystander (talk) 09:38, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
- When did I say "I don't like darkies"? I might not love some other races as much as I love the white race, but that does not mean I dislike them. And if someone else loves those races more than the white, why would I complain? To each, their own, as far as I am concerned. And I am speaking here just of races in the abstract, not individuals. There are many non-white individuals in this world who are far worthier and more valuable than many white individuals in this world. Who is better, Nelson Mandela or Ted Bundy? Nelson Mandela I think is an admirable figure - even if one does not agree with all of his political positions, one cannot help but envy his charisma and global political success. Ted Bundy is a rapist serial killer. Nelson Mandela is African, and Ted Bundy was Caucasian/European. Would not a racist have to hold, that Bundy is nonetheless better than Mandela, simply on account of his race? I don't think any such thing. I love the white race (talk) 09:47, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
- There is no "white race". Giving this much importance to one relatively minor genetic factor implies something in the eye of the beholder, an excessive subjective valuation. And then to say "I love the white race" implies that you don't love those whom you deem not to be of this "white race" that you've invented. I repeat, the true translation of what you're saying comes down to "I am not a racist but... I don't like darkies". (and the variant of "some of my best friends are..." defence doesn't wash either.) Innocent Bystander (talk) 09:57, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
- Why not? Dog breeds exist, why not human breeds? Or, if there is no white race, there at least white races, and just as related dog breeds can be gathered together into breed groups, could not related human races be gathered together into race groups? And your claim you don't love those whom you deem not to be of this "white race" isn't true, since my user page says "I love all races" and "I wish all people well, including people of all races". I love people of every race. I love every race. I love the white race with a special love, beyond my love for the other races. As to individuals, I judge each individual as I meet them; I don't presume, that just because someone is of a certain race, that they are automatically better than someone else who is of another. Also, your statement this "white race" that you've invented is clearly false; even if your claim that the white race is invented is true (I don't agree), if it was invented by anyone, its invention long preceded my birth. I love the white race (talk) 10:03, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
- You are, essentially, making the same arguments that David Duke has been trying to make for years so as to soften the image of the KKK. None of them are based in anything more than scientific babel and utter nonsense. Or, as I call them, "racism lite." Reckless Noise Symphony (talk) 10:24, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
- I've never had anything to do with the KKK or David Duke. It's hard to defend one's self against such a broad guilt-by-association smear, "you're just like them" - which specific viewpoint of David Duke or the KKK are you insinuating that I share? I don't claim to have an exhaustive knowledge of the views of either, but I'm sure they have many views with which I disagree. For one thing, looking at David Duke's website, he seems quite obsessed with Jews, when that is a topic that doesn't really interest me - to me, they are just another ethnic/religious minority, and so long as they leave me alone - and so far they have - why should I worry about them, any more than a gazillion other ethnic/religious minorities on this earth? I love the white race (talk) 10:45, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
- You are, essentially, making the same arguments that David Duke has been trying to make for years so as to soften the image of the KKK. None of them are based in anything more than scientific babel and utter nonsense. Or, as I call them, "racism lite." Reckless Noise Symphony (talk) 10:24, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
- Why not? Dog breeds exist, why not human breeds? Or, if there is no white race, there at least white races, and just as related dog breeds can be gathered together into breed groups, could not related human races be gathered together into race groups? And your claim you don't love those whom you deem not to be of this "white race" isn't true, since my user page says "I love all races" and "I wish all people well, including people of all races". I love people of every race. I love every race. I love the white race with a special love, beyond my love for the other races. As to individuals, I judge each individual as I meet them; I don't presume, that just because someone is of a certain race, that they are automatically better than someone else who is of another. Also, your statement this "white race" that you've invented is clearly false; even if your claim that the white race is invented is true (I don't agree), if it was invented by anyone, its invention long preceded my birth. I love the white race (talk) 10:03, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
- There is no "white race". Giving this much importance to one relatively minor genetic factor implies something in the eye of the beholder, an excessive subjective valuation. And then to say "I love the white race" implies that you don't love those whom you deem not to be of this "white race" that you've invented. I repeat, the true translation of what you're saying comes down to "I am not a racist but... I don't like darkies". (and the variant of "some of my best friends are..." defence doesn't wash either.) Innocent Bystander (talk) 09:57, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
- When did I say "I don't like darkies"? I might not love some other races as much as I love the white race, but that does not mean I dislike them. And if someone else loves those races more than the white, why would I complain? To each, their own, as far as I am concerned. And I am speaking here just of races in the abstract, not individuals. There are many non-white individuals in this world who are far worthier and more valuable than many white individuals in this world. Who is better, Nelson Mandela or Ted Bundy? Nelson Mandela I think is an admirable figure - even if one does not agree with all of his political positions, one cannot help but envy his charisma and global political success. Ted Bundy is a rapist serial killer. Nelson Mandela is African, and Ted Bundy was Caucasian/European. Would not a racist have to hold, that Bundy is nonetheless better than Mandela, simply on account of his race? I don't think any such thing. I love the white race (talk) 09:47, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
- Translation - "I am not a racist but... I don't like darkies". Innocent Bystander (talk) 09:38, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
- So what makes you so fond of albinos? As they are the nearest we get to truly white people.
ГенгисOur ignorance is God; what we know is science.
10:42, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
- Albinos aren't really my thing. But if they are your thing, all the best to you. "White" encodes a complex reality, and in declaring my love for that reality, I don't mean to negate its complexity. I love the white race (talk) 10:48, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
- As if race is defined by skin color. 61.41.210.52 (talk) 11:04, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
- Albinos aren't really my thing. But if they are your thing, all the best to you. "White" encodes a complex reality, and in declaring my love for that reality, I don't mean to negate its complexity. I love the white race (talk) 10:48, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
- So what makes you so fond of albinos? As they are the nearest we get to truly white people.
Why?[edit]
What is it about the white race that makes you love it so much? ωεαşεζøίɗ
Methinks it is a Weasel 10:37, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
- I'm a heterosexual male, which means I have a special love for women, which I don't have for men. Asking me why I have that love is about as pointless as asking why a lesbian has a special love for women, or a straight woman or a gay man has a special love for men. If you can accept peoples' orientations towards gender, why can't you accept their orientations towards race? If you can accept that a gay man loves men in a special way in which he does not love women, why can't you accept that a white-lover (who may or may not themselves be white) cannot love whites in a special way in which they cannot love non-whites? That is not to say they can't love non-whites in other ways, just as the gay man can love women, just not in the special way in which he can love men. I love the white race (talk) 10:54, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
- So this is a sexual thing? Ŵêâŝêîôîď
Methinks it is a Weasel 11:14, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
- I don't want to reduce it purely to sexuality, but nor do I deny that my love for the white race is reflected in my sexuality. The women of my deepest dreams are white. If I imagined a world without African women, or Asian women - it would be some loss - but a world without White women would be in my heart a loss far greater. I love the white race (talk) 11:21, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
- At this point I think you should consider the possibility that you're a tad eccentric. Balaam (talk) 11:23, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
- Maybe there are many others like me, but we feel compelled to hide our true feelings? If I was open about my feelings, I am sure I would be attacked with a barrage of hate and discrimination, and the powers that be would not come to my aid, no, they would gleefully join in the persecution. I love the white race (talk) 11:25, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
- oh, hello Marcus. SophieWilder 17:34, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
- I don't blame you for assuming this is my sock. It bears many of the hallmarks - controversial position with an eccentric presentation. Deeply befuddling politics. In many ways, I admire this man and would welcome him to the plurality of diffuse voices that Rationalwiki should have (and once had, before the crackdowns). MarcusCicero (talk) 17:57, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
- Thank you for your admiration, Mr. Cicero. I think my politics are only "deeply befuddling" because our world is too caught up in the fixed doctrines of the left and the right. Most political debates disinterest me; I am generally a moderate, with some libertarian and even progressive tendencies, but at the same time conservative in the sense that I am hesitant about proposals to radically change the status quo. I love the white race (talk) 21:55, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
- You do realise that since these cunts think that you are me, nobody is going to entertain you any more? Its quite pathetic really, but that is what this site has become - a vehicle for hate, fear and loathing. MarcusCicero (talk) 13:17, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
- Maybe there are many others like me, but we feel compelled to hide our true feelings? If I was open about my feelings, I am sure I would be attacked with a barrage of hate and discrimination, and the powers that be would not come to my aid, no, they would gleefully join in the persecution. I love the white race (talk) 11:25, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
- At this point I think you should consider the possibility that you're a tad eccentric. Balaam (talk) 11:23, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
- I don't want to reduce it purely to sexuality, but nor do I deny that my love for the white race is reflected in my sexuality. The women of my deepest dreams are white. If I imagined a world without African women, or Asian women - it would be some loss - but a world without White women would be in my heart a loss far greater. I love the white race (talk) 11:21, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
- So this is a sexual thing? Ŵêâŝêîôîď