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"I am fond of strong rhetoric. That is all. Americans tend to have a poor sense of the ironic and certainly lack any understanding of wit, so this reaction comes as no surprise."[edit]

As an American, I actually tend to agree with your observation here. American humor, especially in recent years, has tended to go down the tubes from the witty and intelligent (like a good Mel Brooks comedy such as Young Frankenstein or Blazing Saddles) to the stupid and childish (a film example which covers this are all those "Vague Genre Movie"-like movies (where even the titles are not original), where wit is replaced with crass nonsense). The Goonie 1 What's this button do? Uh oh.... 23:25, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

A marine biologist developed a race of genetically engineered dolphins that could live forever if they were fed a steady diet of seagulls. One day, his supply of the birds ran out so he had to go out and trap some more. On the way back, he spied two lions asleep on the road. Afraid to wake them, he gingerly stepped over them. Immediately, he was arrested and charged with... transporting gulls across sedate lions for immortal porpoises.
This is the height of American pun. That is all. Robespierre § talk 06:35, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
I'd go one further, Goonie, and suggest that wit in US screen writing has been completely removed from everything, and not just comedy. Where in some places you do get what you'd happily call "wit", which is natural quippy writing that is both clever and realistic, you get highly contrived lines that could only exist in a script-writer's head, as if the characters stayed awake all night rehearsing these lines over and over, then forcing a situation where they could say them. From what little I've seen of it, Gene Hunt in the US version of Life On Mars fits this perfectly. Of course, it's US comedy that seems to have suffered the most in recent years, it's getting far too "lowest common denominator", probably because of the mass groups of writers that do it, if you get a mass group of writers all trying to be funny, it sort of homogenises the whole thing, the onslaught of "Vague Genre Movies" are probably the epitome of this. I don't think that blood strike helped much, though, it probably taught everyone in US television and film that you can still scrape quite a lot of cash out of the barrel without hiring anyone with talent. Scarlet A.pngd hominem 09:38, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
Curb your Enthusiasm is a great show. That is all. MarcusCicero (talk) 10:14, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
Psygremlin summed up British humour wonderfully with the statement; "there once were two brothers. The other one disliked cheese." SJ Debaser 10:56, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
British comedy is infinitely superior to almost any other brand. The last 20 years has seen some truly momentous developments in the genre - Brass Eye, Peep Show, Nathan Barley, etc. etc. Oh yeah, I should also add that clearly there are some American comic geniuses. The makers of South Park are probably the most accomplished writers of our generation. MarcusCicero (talk) 14:43, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
I think there are some rather broad brushes being applied here but, yes, I agree that British humour appeals more to this Brit than US humour. One thing they haven't learnt about is British Brevity (follow this TV Tropes link at your own risk). Take the US "Office" - now on series five whereas the UK version used the Fawlty Towers model of two short series and that's it. Jack Hughes (talk) 14:59, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Huey Long[edit]

I'm glad I'm not the only one who has read about him. My first taste outside of school was "Louisiana Hayride", but that was given to me by my Long-hating grandmother, (he outed a relative of hers). TyrannisAn iron, yet caring fist 00:39, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

You should read Robert Penn Warren's book. The governor is based on Huey Long. Thats all I know about the man, he seemed more like a Russian oligarch than an American elected representative. MarcusCicero (talk) 13:58, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

How's it hanging?[edit]

Eh? P-Foster (talk) 21:25, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

How ya doing chief? I'm very busy these days and have long since resigned from trolling. I may have a quick Christmas flurry yet though. MarcusCicero (talk) 13:57, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

Would it cause a major shitstorm if I were to make you s sysop?[edit]

I haven't been around much lately, but you seem to be doing alright by this place, and the exclamation points are ugly. P-Foster (talk) 01:40, 30 December 2010 (UTC)

Do it. It's okay. -- (talk) 01:56, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
I officially certify that I have no plans to throw a shit-fit at this time. --Kels (talk) 01:57, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
This is usually how it starts. He behaves himself, gets sysopped, causes trouble and then we have to have a debate about desysopping him. - π 02:01, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
Meh, I say that he's made more good contribs as of late than most of the people we stick with sysop power. Go ahead and sysop him. What's the worst that could happen? Punky Your mental puke relief 02:05, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
The same shit that happened last time? - π 02:14, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
Was him being a sysop a real part of that? I forgot. In any case I'd like to believe the bureaucrats know the game too well for there to be any bad drama. If they don't, we get to test RW's newly found powers of false democracy and brutal oppression. (talk) 02:41, 30 December 2010 (UTC)

If he fucks it up, take it away. Otherwise, let's say time served. P-Foster (talk) 02:49, 30 December 2010 (UTC)

Aye, give the lad some rope and hope he uses it for securing loose items and bundling them into neat packages. Sprocket J Cogswell (talk) 03:32, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
Can I imperiously sysop this cunt and let you fuckers hate me for it in the morning? It is done. Cheers P-Foster. Nutty Roux100x100 anarchy symbol.svgUser:Nutty Roux/sigtalk 03:51, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
Good :) --ADtalkModerator 04:46, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
HEY, NUTTY ROUX, DO ME A FAVOR AND GO FUCK YOURSELF, HYPOCRITICAL CUNT. More to follow. Now excuse me while I read these "new messages." Cheers! Blue (is useful) 05:10, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
Dear Blue, would sucking my cock be any hotter and sweeter if you stuffed a peppermint in your nasty craw? Fuck yourself. Nutty Roux100x100 anarchy symbol.svgUser:Nutty Roux/sigtalk 05:22, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
Play nice or so help me god I will tan your red hides and dance you on your tail and pitch you from now to now. DickTurpis (talk) 05:29, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
"New messages" ?? I think I must have done something to my internet, because the RationalWiki hasn't said I have new messages for weeks it seems and I just can't believe it's been that long that nobody sent any new messages. Sprocket J Cogswell (talk) 06:47, 30 December 2010 (UTC)

Oh Nutty, you... slutty swine! I am ten times more decent man than you ever could be. --Idiot number 59 (talk) 12:41, 30 December 2010 (UTC)

One of my sock accounts is a sysop anyway. MarcusCicero (talk) 13:30, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
Please stop making hints that I am your sock. I am funnier than you. And I am Catholic. You are a stupid pig. --Idiot number 59 (talk) 13:36, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
I am funnier than you. I am Catholic. I am not a stupid pig. I'm not a witch. I'm you. MarcusCicero (talk) 15:25, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
Fuck you, liar. You have already confessed that you aren't me. --Idiot number 59 (talk) 15:35, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
Now now Marcus, we already know who I am. MarcusCicero (talk) 18:55, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
You misunderstood. I am the real fake MC. -- (talk) 14:29, 30 December 2010 (UTC)


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You have won the "RW's Most Abusive" award for 2010! Ha-ha!

--Idiot number 59 (talk) 18:09, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

Good. MarcusCicero (talk) 20:45, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

MC, long time no see. Blue (is useful) 00:48, 17 February 2011 (UTC)


Tell me, O Marcus Cicero, what do you think of my religion? --(((Zack Martin))) 09:51, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

Fuck off Maratrean. Nobody gives a shit about your fucking stupid made-up religion and you've already gotten enough attention for one lonely crank. Go write another wall of text for Rayment to TQ and leave us alone. Nutty Roux (talk) 09:57, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
Oh and hey MC. What's up buddy. Nutty Roux (talk) 09:58, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
Nutty, I'm not asking you, I'm asking MarcusCicero. I wouldn't ask you because you've already made quite clear what your opinion was. But I thought I'd ask Marcus, because I was particularly interested to hear what he thought. --(((Zack Martin))) 09:59, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
No you're not. You asked because you want any attention you can get. Please just go away. Phil Rayment will give you all the attention you can stand and coincidentally also seems to live in a fantasy world. Nutty Roux (talk) 10:04, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
Yes I actually am. I think MarcusCicero is a misunderstood editor, I don't always agree with everything he does or says, but quite a few people seem to be very negative about him. So I wanted to know how he'd react to me - it's not necessarily about agreement or disagreement, but the type of response. I don't understand your virulent hostility to me - if you aren't interested in something, why not just ignore it? And why all the virulent hostility to Philip Rayment? I don't agree with everything he believes or says, but I find him to be a kind, civil, thoughtful, person - all things which you NuttyRoux are not. You seem to be a very hateful person. --(((Zack Martin))) 10:28, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
Oh, and BTW Nutty, I thought you were retiring... why then are you still here? --(((Zack Martin))) 10:39, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
You are a wonderful troll. To go so far as to create your own whackjob cult? Well thats just marvellous and inspired. Hi Nutty. MarcusCicero (talk) 11:27, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
Troll is such a harsh word isn't it? And it suggests that whatever I am doing, I don't actually mean what I am doing. A troll does things just to get a reaction. Is someone who really believes in what they are doing a troll? What even is a troll? How to define it? --(((Zack Martin))) 11:32, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
Whatever you are it's tedious and unwelcome. You do realize the vast majority of people here detest you, don't you? I imagine it's like that in your offline life too. I suspect your pedantry betrays your own inability to admit you don't believe the ridiculous shit you pop off but are an attention whore with grossly inflated view of yourself. In any event only you can really know if you're a troll or not and since I find you so completely full of shit I don't care what your pubic answer is. Go plague some other website with your walls of text and jaqing off. Since you think Rayment is such a great guy it looks like you've already found someone willing to tq 6000 byte posts filled with made-up bullshit with you. Get going boyo. Aspergers narcissists like you drain the fun and interest out of every situation they infect. How many people would have to admit they want you gone before you'd just go already? Nutty Roux (talk) 15:02, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
If you aren't interested in what I have to say, why not just ignore me? If my words bore you, just don't read them? Problem solved, isn't it? Instead, you hurl verbal abuse at me, and at an uninvolved third party (Philip Rayment). I think that goes to show what kind of person you are - a very foul-natured one. So long as you continue to be this way, I must say that it is good that you are leaving and I hope very much that you don't come back. --(((Zack Martin))) 06:31, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

The section in which some cunts try to distract from the point here, which is that Maratrean needs to fuck right off[edit]

Compared to PJR, I'd let Maratrean fuck my daughter. Occasionaluse (talk) 15:04, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
If either attempted doing that to my daughter I would consider fucking them right back. ADK...I'll burn your search engine! 15:14, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
Metaphorically I take it? ТyTalk. 15:20, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
I think it's pretty obvious that she could use it. Occasionaluse (talk) 15:21, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
If OU actually had a daughter she'd be as nasty a whore as he is and we'd all already be fucking her. Nutty Roux (talk) 15:19, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
She's not worth it. Overuses her teeth. –SuspectedReplicant retire me 15:37, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
First, you're just cheap. Second, she most certainly does not. Occasionaluse (talk) 15:39, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
That's a malicious lie about overusing her teeth. She takes them out first. --PsyGremlinFale! 15:41, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

Vile hypocrite[edit]

When you say sensible things they really do make some sense. When it's just yada yada fascists yada censorship yada prick poo bum pants it's crap, and i'll remove it where I see it. You have a civil tongue, keep it that way. Totnesmartin (talk) 17:46, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

Go fuck yourself, why have you appointed yourself as the morality police? My points have merit, plenty of people agree with them both onsite and via email. Don't be such a self righteous dullard, lecturing me on the proper way to conduct 'debate'. To quote Robert Graves, 'Is it not more important what a man says, than the way he says it?'

And yes, you are a fascist cunt who gets a kick off censorship. Its probably why you are the original 40 year old virgin and the butt of all jokes among your friends. MarcusCicero (talk) 17:48, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

By the way, I was going to put 'friends' in apostrophe's, but thought that might be a little far, even for me. You have received a tongue lashing - anymore of this wankery and you shall receive much much more. MarcusCicero (talk) 17:50, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

haha! Touched a nerve did I Totnes? Tell me, is your virginity a product of your tendancy for fascism or is your fascism a product of your virginity? MarcusCicero (talk) 21:49, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
fascism gives me a hard on. Ace of Spades 21:52, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
Virgins give me a hard on. Nutty Roux (talk) 22:18, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
Richard Branson! Richard Branson! Totnesmartin (talk) 22:21, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
I clearly did touch a nerve, you've been harassing me for days now. Now the site is in the midst of a revolution; all the major critics, including me, will be quickly disposed of and a new 'purge' will occur. All dissent will be squashed. I foretold this years ago but yet am disappointed to actually se it happen. MarcusCicero (talk) 20:28, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

"I have decided to retire from trolling. I am now going to be a useful editor. "[edit]

Since you obviously haven't, I've unilaterally decided you can play elsewhere. Totnesmartin (talk) 22:25, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

What? Seriously Totnes when and why did you decide that your apparant life purpose was to imitate the Saudi morality police? Get a fucking life you pathetic loser. MarcusCicero (talk) 20:27, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
I will go on record as saying that, in my opinion, MC is a valued contributor and observer to/of this site. I am also confused by where Martin, who I [used to?] hold in respect is coming from. ħumanUser talk:Human 04:11, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

You've been nominated![edit]

Your 'craptship awaits! (Pending a positve vote count). 03:12, 17 May 2011 (UTC) C®ackeЯ

Awesome, these sweeping changes of RW's power structures has completely undone the entire fucking year we had without this asshole trolling RW massivly. People have short fucking memories. I am with Refugee. This is a fucking crock of shit. Ace of Spades 03:15, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
He couldn't win if he was the only candidate but it's an outrage that his name was stricken from the list and he's been continually blocked, binned, and had his rights removed all for being a tactless and foul, yet honest and just, critic. Nutty Roux (talk) 03:19, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
Bullshit Nutty. Making up criticism on the spot to every change doens't make one an honest critic. Ace of Spades 03:26, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
I've frequently been surprised by his powers of observation. Just because 80% of it's filled with shit slinging doesn't mean the rest isn't a fair cop. He started in something like December 2007. While he's generally been a mixed bag, with the mix tending more toward nuts people don't like, he's been a valuable presence. Nutty Roux (talk) 03:35, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
Doesn't really matter. This is tedious, man. Ace of Spades 03:41, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
It's a fucking tiresome headache. I'm with you in spirit man. Nutty Roux (talk) 03:48, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

Hey Marcus, if you would like to accept the nomination, please go here and bold it and sign it.

Please don't go[edit]

We need you, now more than ever. Without you the fascist authoritarians will take over and they'll stifle criticism and dissent. Please come back!!!!1! -- Nx / talk 09:32, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

He is gone, at last <evil snigger>! Lang lebe die új összeesküvés! larronsicut fur in nocte 09:39, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
No, I won't come back. Not ever. Please continue writing pleasant things about me on my talk page as I jack off to the compliments and the pleading and eventually come back within 24 hours without raising the issue ever again (Only to repeat the process in 3 months) MarcusCicero (talk) 10:21, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
MC, you really have some strange masturbatory habits. (((Zack Martin))) 10:47, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
Says the prophet of god he made up. Nutty Roux (talk) 23:13, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
I try not to make fun of Maratrean, it'd be a bit like beating up the disabled fat kid who is annoyingly pleasant and personable. I tolerate him, even though he is an (Unsuccesful) cult leader. In answer to your statement Maratrean, yes I do have strange masturbatory habits. Though I'm not a homosexual, I jacked off to Edmund Burke's correspondance with Lord Fitzwilliam in 1795. I jack off over Burke's eloquence quite often actually. I also jack off to the thought of aspies running around in circles trying to protect each other. I call this sex game 'aspie jerk'. It has a double meaning as not only am I a jerk to aspies I also literally jerk off to them. MarcusCicero (talk) 23:18, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
Ah, Marcus, what would we be without you? This place just wouldn't be the same without the glorious light of your eloquent invective shining upon it. Indeed, you have truly rediscovered that art which Roman poets held most dear. (((Zack Martin))) 10:07, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
Masturbation is authoritarian oppression of your genitalia. -- (talk) 00:13, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

If there's a hell I'm going there for this. Nutty Roux (talk) 01:19, 19 May 2011 (UTC)


Sorry to be a literary pissant here, but don't you mean "re-established?" It was established before and all.... Gooniepunk2010 Oi! Oi! Oi! 15:51, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

The society doth be reborn anew, though inspired from precedent, it is verily a most august institution, though divine, though also cautionary, though frigid, tepid, and with great pleasure I propound upon the article of contention, which is verily established, been the focus of debate, and the nature of time, being transitory, I arrive at my conclusion. MarcusCicero (talk) 22:55, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
Verily? Nutty Roux (talk) 23:01, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
Most verily. MarcusCicero (talk) 23:05, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
Verily I have sent by the tubes a missive to thee. Nutty Roux (talk) 15:02, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

Thank you[edit]

Thank you for what you wrote on my talk page. :-) Refugeetalk page 20:42, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

"(That cancerous growth is the sound of your mother sucking my dick while I punch your father in the balls."[edit]

I know trolling doesn't come easily to people of your intelligence, so I'm gonna give you a free extra shot out of the kindness of my heart. Remember that it helps your typing skills if you're not masturbating at the time. Mark Antony (talk) 16:15, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

I thought that was pretty good actually. MarcusCicero (talk) 21:45, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
Everything you think is wrong. I intend to destroy you. There will be no reprieve. Rationalwiki is mine. Mark Antony (talk) 21:49, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
I'll be blunt. Look at what I've done to this place in the last month. Now look at what you've done in the last four fucking years. Fucking hell. Mark Antony (talk) 21:55, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
No offence but I had no idea you even existed before this morning. You are a little gnat, biting at greater animals. In no way do you even bear a resemblance to my sophisticated brand of... confrontation. MarcusCicero (talk) 21:56, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
This is a new account. My work here has encompassed many names and places. And the fact that you call your trolling sophisticated makes me want to weep for trolls everywhere. The point is, you only got anywhere because the people here are so monumentally stupid. You could have done anything if you'd really tried, but you settled for poking people with sticks. Mark Antony (talk) 22:01, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
The evidence speaks for itself. Just look at the website as it is now. When I first joined the thought of banning someone for more than 3 hours was anathema. Since I have joined RW became an authoritarian shithole where every sacred cow was ritually slaughtered in turn. luckily I have abandoned trolling, and have instead embraced the cause of liberty and reform. And no, you are most likely a sock of bitter old Nx, the poor fellow has spent his entire time on here confused as to why nobody respects him. You are his darker manifestation, and a weak attempt at trollery. MarcusCicero (talk) 22:03, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
What, your masterplan was to make them more authoritarian? Nice turnaround on that. Four years later and they're sort of vaguely thinking about banning you. Wake the fuck up. Mark Antony (talk) 22:09, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
If you weren't such an idiot, you would understand that I have been in the vandal bin, banned, and at one time any edit by either myself or one of my socks was completely vaporised (As in, the edit was deleted) Of course you (Nx) would know that, as you had led the persecution. If you weren't such an imbecile you would show due deference to your superiors. MarcusCicero (talk) 22:13, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
You're still here. That's not banned enough for me. My win condition is to have trolls like you and me burned from the surface of Rationalwiki, leaving nothing. Watch how easy this is for me. Mark Antony (talk) 22:16, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
Define anything? You really are a pathetic idiot. Listen here you little shite, my grand plan was incremental, I brought ruin to this place in tiny steps. Occasionally these steps were supplemented by outpourings of invective and bile. But mostly they involved callous manipulation. My army of socks wreaked havoc as they spread the gospel of authoritarianism amongst an increasingly desperate body politic. You are small fry, and generally irrelevant. MarcusCicero (talk) 22:05, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
Claiming you have socks that aren't 100% fucking transparent? Not buying it. Why would a real troll bother with instant-discovery socks when they can pull off the real thing? Mark Antony (talk) 22:09, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
Impressive. How bored do you have to be to do that?? lol Ancient Greek Pegasus icon.png 22:09, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
Really Antony, you cannot claim to be superior 'in the arts' if you fail to recognise the seismic impact I have had on the international trolling community. In trollwestpoint they hold special seminar's analysing my work. MarcusCicero (talk) 22:11, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
Fall back on your jokes, but I know this hurts you as much as it delights me. But I do also pity you. If you want to learn, study me and follow my example. I will not begrudge you that. Mark Antony (talk) 22:13, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
(EC) This won't work unless a third identity enters to judge who is winning. -- (talk) 22:15, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
Your examples? You are a ridiculously bad troll, with no class, relying on petty digs. On the other hand I have debased the infrastructure of Rationalwiki, and have drove many to the point of insanity in the process. My crusade against obsessional aspies is testament to that. Or are you really such an idiot that you're going to hide behind your most transparant sock? I understand you might think you're a big deal around here but you're generally pretty irrelevant. Now submit, young man, and learn humility. MarcusCicero (talk) 22:17, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
I'm not Nx. My examples are that I've brought the site to its knees and driven some of its stupidest editors away for good. Furthermore, I appear to be your sock, and there isn't anything you could do to remedy that. Mark Antony (talk) 22:21, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
I will look pretty crazy if you do turn out to be my sock. And I've done some pretty crazy things. You haven't brought this site to its knee's, unless of course if you're behind all these new wave aspies who want to turn this place into wikipedia-for-the-most-nerdy, which seems to be the current depressing trajectory. MarcusCicero (talk) 22:24, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
No one cares if it makes sense. All that matters is that our comments look similar. You know it's true. It's the same reason you think I'm Nx. And yes, the policy debates are my idea. I thought you'd like them. Mark Antony (talk) 22:30, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
Wanna chat on gmail? We could learn from each other. Through synergy, we could expand the horizons of trolling forever. MarcusCicero (talk) 22:34, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
Feel free to email my main account. I'm sure you can work out who that is, right? Seeya later. Mark Antony (talk) 22:35, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
I have some idea as to who you may be, but cannot confirm. Either way you should email me and share some of your stories. You don't have to reveal anything particular, just share what you're behind and in return I'll do my best not to draw attention to your activities. MarcusCicero (talk) 22:38, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
I, however, know who you are and all of your socks. I won't tell though, it's far too much fun watching the mayhem. Steven Kavanagh (talk) 20:22, 21 May 2011 (UTC)

get a life[edit]

You take your trolling too seriously.--Tiberius Gracchus (talk) 22:38, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

Trolling is serious fucking business. MarcusCicero (talk) 22:39, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
sure, if you're fifteen years old--Tiberius Gracchus (talk) 22:44, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
I have vision. You have aspergers. End of story. MarcusCicero (talk) 22:51, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
Oooh, I'm autistic. Good one. As for your vision, you know you aren't fooling anyone.--Tiberius Gracchus (talk) 22:53, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
I fooled your mother last night when I had sex with her. Twice. MarcusCicero (talk) 22:57, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
enjoy the syphilis--Tiberius Gracchus.jpg 22:58, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
You take your imaginary fucking political process too seriously. Mark Antony (talk) 20:50, 20 May 2011 (UTC)

I am confused[edit]

Are these different people or are they all you acting out wiki debates in the style of famous Roman Republican politicians? If the later I admire your dedication by conducting a real time argument with yourself. - π 08:17, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

EddyP, Crundy or Suspected Replicant[edit]

Why them? Mark Antony (talk) 20:48, 20 May 2011 (UTC)

I will not reveal my methodology, or the way I think. In fact I think you're that idiot number chap from last year. MarcusCicero (talk) 19:21, 21 May 2011 (UTC)


I find it odd that someone who wants this place to be a platform for free exchange of ideas and information spends so little time discussing ideas and information. Then again, we all know why you're actually here, we're just too nice to do anything about it.--User:Brxbrx/sig 22:46, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

Frankly I hold you in utter contempt, I think you're an idiot biting at greater people's heels, and that you'd be better off on wikipedia correcting grammar and adding categorisations and generally aspiring to be a 'janitor' - after all, such sad internet anonymity is probably your great aspiration in life. Such a sad, petty, lonely man. You truly cut a pathetic figure and I don't want anything more to do with you. MarcusCicero (talk) 22:48, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
You know, we have a page on this wiki dedicated to Ad hominem. Check it out. Then you can try and prove you aren't a troll instead of dodging accusations and overall being a dick. --User:Brxbrx/sig 22:52, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
It is my right and perogative to be a dick. Many of the great writers, politicians and thinkers of history were and are dicks. But people like you are also a historical constant; the boring and muddling bureaucrat, without vision, without principle, without anything setting himself out of the ordinary. You were born destined to be anonymous, and I fear that many years from now, that as an old man on your deathbed, you will look back on a life that was 'played safe', and perhaps regret that you held the truly exceptional in such contempt. MarcusCicero (talk) 22:54, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
aah, the Galileo gambit. You know, I did learn from my tenure at encyclopaedia dramatica that using logical fallacies is an effective way to troll. Unfortunately on this wiki, we have all the information we need to see right through your Trolling 101.--User:Brxbrx/sig 23:06, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
You are incredibly boring. I mean I would have to create a South Park style episode to illustrate quite how corrosive an influence you are on this site. You really are a parody of the earnest and boring nerd who doesn't understand how irrelevant he is. MarcusCicero (talk) 23:44, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

To get this away from the block log...[edit]

  1. Yes, I'm going to see every compliment from you as insult.
  2. I will deal with it the sayme way I'll deal with you insults: ignore them.
  3. Come on! You are never going to say anything good about a fascist like me?!

--ǓḤṂ³ 22:50, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

No, I cannot think of anything positive about you. You and your world of warcraft buddy belong together. MarcusCicero (talk) 22:52, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
I play Civ, not WOW. --ǓḤṂ³ 23:18, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

What's this nonsense?[edit]

Sir Troll, what is this nonsense? You complain of other editors being unproductive while you yourself troll other editors of this site with your nonsense on virginity or Asperger's or lack of social skills and whatnot, and I would like to know what you truly have to offer to the community. You haven't contributed many articles (I haven't done so many myself, but really haven't been that active until just a week ago), fine. But, do you have any knowledge of history, politics, humanities, or anything not involving procreation or Asperger's that you would like to share with the RW community? Trolling is just a bunch of malarkey. Why are you demonizing other editors, anyway, like Brxbrx and Ty? You say this isn't an encyclopedia and people like Ty come here because they lack social skills in real life. This isn't an encyclopedia, you're right on that point, But people correcting grammar and stuff help make this wiki a better place. And before you accuse me of all this crap, let me ask you this: why are you here?--Colonel Sanders (talk) 23:15, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

meet MarcuCicero, transparent and taking advantage of this wiki's lax policies--User:Brxbrx/sig 23:17, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
Colonel, you have a rare sincerity that will insure that you will be eternally disappointed throughout the entirety of your life. MarcusCicero (talk) 23:36, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
Most people in our world don't have or value the sincerity I do. I don't see how this will ensure that I will be disappointed for the rest of my life. I mean, I like to treat people fairly, unlike many other editors (and people, for that matter). I like to hear both sides of the story. "Marcus" (if that is your real name), I don't know who you are or where you are coming from. But from what I have observed, you seriously enjoy trolling and bashing virgins and aspies. Actually, many virgins are some of the most intelligent people around, if you ask me. But back on topic, what is your beef? And let me ask your own question again: "why are you here"?--Colonel Sanders (talk) 23:47, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
To be honest you strike me as someone incredibly innocent and naive. Do you still live at home with your parents? Have you not yet succumbed to the perils of daily life, and the inevitable misanthropy? Why am I here? Why are you fucking here? I'm sure there are intelligent virgins knocking about, I've nothing against them whatsoever. But I understand that pointing this out to them makes them cry and realise how lonely they are. That pleases me. MarcusCicero (talk) 23:51, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
Ahhh, no, I don't live with my parents, who are both deceased. Two fine Danes they were. But back to the point, I do often strike people as innocent and naive, probably because I follow the teachings of Jesus and Paul. I do understand peril and misanthropy, as I witness it every day, and it really does upset me. "Why am I fucking here?" I value reason and rationality. I study politics, history, and science on a daily basis. I consider myself a philosopher of sorts. And have you also considered the fact that not all virgins are so lonely as you say, and there does exist a community of proud virgins? I try to respect you as a fellow editor, and I ask that are you only here to poke fun at the community?--Colonel Sanders (talk) 00:00, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
You are a poor sympathetic soul who may eventually write (At the least) some mediocre poetry. But your whimsical optimism in the rationality and inherent good nature of man will eventually be punctured, and your despair will rock the heavens. Truly it is not worthwhile to go through life leaving yourself open for disappointment on such a vast scale. MarcusCicero (talk) 00:03, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
Poetry? I consider myself a man of reason, not one who dabbles in the art of self-pitying teenagers! Might I ask if you are a fan of Adolf Hitler? I mean, seriously? My "whimsical optimism"? Do you believe that man is nothing more than a brute? Are you a nihilist?--Colonel Sanders (talk) 00:09, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
If I read this right (if that is even possible) Marcus is a cynical misanthrope - and a dick. A nihilist can still be an optimist, he may just have problems finding reasons for it. "I consider myself a man of reason, not one who dabbles in the art of self-pitying teenagers!" Hey! Wtf, man? --ǓḤṂ³ 00:17, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

Hey man[edit]

I don't want to edit war over the Ulster redirect with you, as I find such things tedious and pointless, and will likely result in far too many people getting involved over a minor issue that really doesn't matter, so can I ask that you please leave the redirect to Northern Ireland? I know Ulster is the name of the county, not the country, but when people say "Ulster" they tend to think of NI. Also, we don't have redirects for Leinster, Munster and Connacht all directing to Ireland. Kisses! SJ Debaser 11:26, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

People erroneously think of Northern Ireland and Ulster as interchangeable. Its called British Imperialism. I say the Unionists have influenced the Rationalwikian establishment. The nationalist community has once again been betrayed by rationalwiki. Soon our time will come. A united Ireland. Then the rationalwikian will cry in terror and all shall be lost. MarcusCicero (talk) 11:45, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, that's all fine... but colloquially people still refer to things oddly. Americans (British perhaps as well?) refer to the Netherlands as "Holland", even though Holland is only one part of the Netherlands. We should be seeking to suit the expected colloquial usages of our audience, rather than impose a fascist dictate of usage from on high. Or are you aspie enough to tell people that they're speaking wrong? --Eira OMTG! The Goat be Praised. 11:56, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
No-one in Ireland refers to Ulster as Northern Ireland. The only people who do are unionists and misinformed Brits... MarcusCicero (talk) 12:21, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
That's not the argument, the argument is that people refer to North Ireland as "Ulster". --Eira OMTG! The Goat be Praised. 12:28, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
What people? Who are these people? MarcusCicero (talk) 12:31, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
Apparently, it's North Irish unionists. --Eira OMTG! The Goat be Praised. 12:38, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
Some white racists still use the 'N' word to describe black people. Should we all therefore follow their example? MarcusCicero (talk) 12:46, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
Regardless of if we should follow their example, we shouldn't claim that they don't use the 'N' word to describe black people... --Eira OMTG! The Goat be Praised. 12:53, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
So should we redirect the N word to 'African Americans'? Is that acceptable in your eyes? Why are you are so racist exactly? MarcusCicero (talk) 12:57, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
I asserted no such redirect. I'm not racist, you're operating under presumptive premises that are false. --Eira OMTG! The Goat be Praised. 13:03, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
But you have just stated that you think that African Americans should be called the 'N' word. Why do you despise this community so much? MarcusCicero (talk) 13:07, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
I made no such assertion, and you already know this. But go ahead and have a little laugh regardless... --Eira OMTG! The Goat be Praised. 13:11, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
Getting back on topic, "Ulster" is a colloquialism for Northern Ireland, used by people whether or not they intend to make a connotation to British rule in Ireland. Comparing it to "nigger", a word that the pretty much the entire world considers inherently racist when used toward black people, isn't a very good argument MC. SJ Debaser 14:14, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
Your mother said my cock had some good arguments, and so duly obliged. Shit yeah. MarcusCicero (talk) 15:15, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
Oh that was you? I keep telling her I don't want a stepfather whose cock is larger in diameter than in length. The other night I kept hearing her say "is it in yet?" Oh well, her life, not mine. SJ Debaser 15:42, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

MC, it is strange, on the one hand you seem to support a united Ireland, on the other hand you seem terribly fond of Edmund Burke. I don't know for sure, but I would have thought that Mr. Burke was a unionist? (((Zack Martin))) 01:19, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

Yes, Edmund Burke was a unionist, but he was a unionist before the Act of Union took place, and died before Ireland and Britain were conjoined. Burke was above all one of the great liberal thinkers of world history, he despised corruption, injustice and scandal. His unionism was motivated by his desire to quash the hated Protestant ascendancy in Ireland, who would never willingly relinquish their political and economic power so long as they dominated the politics of the island. So he envisaged an act of union in conjunction with full rights for Catholics and the complete gutting and destruction of the corrupt ruling class on the island that made life so miserable for so many people. He was a farsighted man, unafraid of assuming and propagating unpopular opinions, and Ireland shall forever be in his debt. I can imagine the multitude of small minded idiots on RW, who were they alive in the late 18th century, would have jumped wholesale into the arms of the French Jacobins. And no, I couldn't really give a shit about a united Ireland one way or the other, I am completely anti nationalist and still dream of a borderless world where everyone wanders around in a toga and speaks about higher virtues such as reason, compassion, exploration and curiosity. Nationalism is a hideous ideology that emphasises our differences, and it is a disease that needs to be eradicated from all human consciousness. MarcusCicero (talk) 14:27, 12 June 2011 (UTC)


I sent you an email chiding you over harassing RW users. Nutty Rouxnever mind 22:55, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

You're a poopy head.[edit]

Stop socking. Naughty people aren't meant to play here. You're just making it worse for yourself. MtDPinko Scum 15:15, 3 July 2011 (UTC)


It goes in cycles, it seems. Marcus the reasonably useful editor will be around for a while, being a smart guy -- smarter than me, anyways -- making edits, being relatively benign in his snark. And then eventually Marcus the Troll appears -- usually starts off by calling someone an aspie or a virgin, and then escalates into sheer ugly craziness; pretending to edit as your brother who is caring for you as you suffer from mental illness, taking out numerous sock accounts, making wild accusations of doom for the wiki...and then you go away for a while and come back and edit until you explode again. Academia is a bitch -- most people in my department are seeing therapists/on some sort of antidepressant/self-medicating with a variety of legal and illegal substances. I know what kind of strain that life can put on a person. Do you need help? Are you seeing a professional? You behaviour is Ken-like in terms of the warning signs it displays. Keep it together, man. Keep it together. P-Foster (talk) 15:20, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

No, Marcus is an asshole. Deal with it P-F. MtDPinko Scum 15:38, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

Good Sir![edit]

Check your email. Now. :)--Talpidae (talk) 20:25, 4 July 2011 (UTC)


This man[edit]

is a genius. That is all.--Talpidae (talk) 18:47, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Wheel warring with Psygremlin[edit]

Okay both of you this stops now. Psy, Marcus hasn't been causing any troubles just engaging in his usual pompous behavior. Marcus stop calling people racists. - π Moderator 13:45, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

Dear Cunt[edit]

The fact that you can only resort to calling me a racist, show just what a pathetic cunt you are. I mean this sincerely when I say do us all a favour and fuck off and die. --PsyGremlinHable! 13:50, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

Not helping. - π Moderator 13:50, 9 July 2011 (UTC)
Cause and effect, dear cretin. You decided to pick on me originally because I called you out for being a pathetic whiner who promised to fuck off and never come back and then - surprise surprise - you come crawling back as if the embarassingly pathetic whiny episode you engaged with and your blog rantings never happened. You are genuinely beneath contempt, a slimy little devil. The racist jibe is a convenient one, but it hints at your broader authoritarianism. The fact that someone says something you don't like provokes you into wishing their demise speaks volumes about a mind poisoned by its disenfranchisment in post apartheid South Africa; your bullying antics and attempts to permanantly ban me are reminiscent of apartheid era South African police with their various methods of intimidation. Ban me all you like, I'll keep coming back. I'm whack a mole. (talk) 13:54, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

Aceof SpadesSilverbrain.png 14:01, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

Your defense[edit]

I will unbin you to write a defence of your yourself on this page. It is entirely up to you whether you choose to abuse the opportunity or make a cogent rational case as you claim to be able to do. Please limit your defence to 1000 words and avoid personal remarks against other editors. If you choose to be a dick then expect to be re-binned. Redchuck.gif ГенгисunbelievingModerator 13:43, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

And how would that do me any good? If I did that I would be legitimising the charade, which as it stands is simply a jumped up lynching. You have been informed of the consequences of your actions, you are aware of my past history and my endurance. I don't intend to go anywhere. I will not abide by the decision of either the mob or the mods. I refuse to recognise either their legitimacy or their honesty.
The logic of the lynching is stunning. It all started because Pys suffered a little gentle trolling and that whiny jumped up little bitch who promises to leave every couple of months came back and was called on for it. By PIE's OWN FUCKING ADMISSION I WAS NOT DOING ANYTHING WRONG AT THE START OF THIS THING. All I did was create a wordy debate title. Actually, the more I think of it, FUCK YOU ALL. (talk) 13:54, 10 July 2011 (UTC)
So be it. I tried to give you a fair hearing but obviously you oratorical skills are not up to scratch. Redchuck.gif ГенгисunbelievingModerator 13:58, 10 July 2011 (UTC)
Its a very old tactic of non violent resistance. You do not resist Nazi Germany by legitimising its legal system by - of your own volition - participating in a political trial against you. I reject the legitimacy of this thing and refuse to give it the legitimacy it so desperately craves but will never get. (talk) 14:04, 10 July 2011 (UTC)
You know, Marcus, I've been about the best defender you have so far, and honestly, I ain't much of a defender at all, but I'm willing to give you a chance to legitimately address this situation if you'll take it. So instead of bitching about how you're not given an opportunity to defend yourself, why don't you, you know, actually take the opportunity to defend yourself? I suspect its because there's little defense to be made. You almost start to explain your actions above, but you're not giving anyone much to go on. I honestly don't know why you give a shit about Psy's LANCB; it's basically a tradition here now. Yeah, it's silly. Who cares?
You know, I don't know why you care about anything on this site, to be honest. It's pretty apparent that you don't like anyone here and no one here likes you. You have no interest in RW's mission, or anything about it as far as I can tell. Any normal person would have nothing to do with such a site. If you hate this community so much, why are you so adamant about remaining here? I think you're the paragon of a concern troll. You feign concern about authoritarianism here, but it's clearly disingenuous. If you have some legitimate issues with some of the material here, make it known, but I haven't seen any evidence that this is the case. You know why I don't make a stink about some power structure at a Twilight fansite? Because I don't give a shit about it, and have no vested interest in it. You should try that sometime. DickTurpis (talk) 14:18, 10 July 2011 (UTC)
Dick, I would be happy to explain myself to you via private communications, possibly via email. But I will not and must not do so here, because to do that would be to lend legitimacy to a thoroughly vile and violent act of political oppression. Drop me an email and I will fully explain and defend myself. I will also allow you read some of the documents I've compiled over the years, scholarly analyses of this website's powerstructure, its violent contempt for anything other than extreme far left secularism etc. etc. I can explain everything to you via email should you so desire. But I will NOT take part in the show trial. (talk) 14:25, 10 July 2011 (UTC)
You can send me whatever you like; my RW email-thingy should be active, but if you want it to make any difference you should make it public. And this "vile and violent act of political oppression" melodrama is getting tiresome. Claiming the illegitimacy of the authority of, let's see, the sum total of just about everyone on this site except for you? Come on, what would satisfy you as legitimate? If you won't defend yourself there's not much anyone can do for you. DickTurpis (talk) 14:59, 10 July 2011 (UTC)
If you actually want to bring up good arguments against the power structure, doing it publicly might actually change the opinion of others. Even mine. But how can claiming that the mods are illegitimate and that most users here are authoritarian change any of that? Through sitting still people didn't change anything, non-violence and speech on the other hand did. If you sent Dick something would you consider sending it to me too? 'Cause after all, it's not like I'm not interested in what you have to say. --uhm, t! 15:34, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

For the purposes of justice and posterity, I state my case[edit]

This entire thing is all so silly. The chain of events has already been established, but has been lost somewhere amidst the hysteria and the general bad feeling running through this place like a current or flash of collective delusion. All I did was this: I posted a debate intended to be between myself and AD and was then vandal binned by Psygremlin. I was given sysop powers to unbin myself so I did so. Pys thought otherwise. He already tried to do me in once before but failed. By PIE’s own admission, I was doing nothing wrong at the time of this incident.

This is why this entire case is a sham. Anyone who is thinking of this either objectively or logically would reach the inescapable conclusion that this event has nothing to do with the events of the last couple of days but rather goes back years. It is a squalid little attempt to get rid of me and it will not work.

I understand this ‘statement’ is essentially useless as the decision has already been made and no amount of fair minded reason will combat the hysteria of the mob when in full motion. The simplest explanation is that Psygremlin is an egregiously authoritarian human being and cannot handle the fact that I don’t bullshit around or pretend to have fake friendships on the internet. I see through his petty emotionalism and have no problems telling him like it is. Many people such as Foster, Nutty Roux etc. Were more than happy to egg me on when I was combating the aspies and the noobs who were general irritants. The moment I take on someone like Psygremlin they immediately stand behind their fellow class warrior. The entire thing is absurd, it is a show trial.

I know things. I have an inbox full of emails from around a dozen members here who have at various times used me as a convenient tool to get at their pet hates, the people they disliked. They thought of me as their creature whom they could manipulate to get their own way. It suited me of course, as I then had a reliable core of allies whom I could rely on to unban/unbin me once things cooled down. We entered into a social contract, and we both benefited.

The core difference here, of course, is that I clearly made a move against someone too powerful, and am now being punished for that. Take Foster as an example. Around a month ago he crat-ted me and stated that I was one of the few members making any sense around here. This was when noob/aspie activity was at its most intense. Now he has made a complete u-turn. Don’t worry buddy, I won’t reveal any secrets. You can sleep tight for now.

The case is this; I went after somebody too powerful, and now I am cut loose and out in the wild. My patrons have abandoned me. That is the case.

I hope you all understand that I never could have lasted so long without significant inside collaboration. That was the key to both my charm and my considerable success. Choose not to believe that if you want – the guilty parties know who they are. That is my statement, for what is worth. I could ‘leak’ things over the next while; I might even publish some of the incriminating emails in question. That would be embarrassing, wouldn’t it?


I'm in favor of the leak idea, though mostly for my own selfish vindication- so leaking emails would be bad, though I'd love to say "I told you so." And we'd have no reason to believe in the legitimacy of the mails.--User:Brxbrx/sig 15:54, 10 July 2011 (UTC)
I don't think anyone's making the case that this is about your latest scuffle with Psy, so pointing that out isn't terribly relevant. "Three years of trolling" (or something to that effect) is a term that's been bandied about. Your main line of defense seems to be that you were doing others' dirty work for them, which might incriminate them, but hardly exonerates you. If you want to leak anything, well, it's hardly unprecedented on this site. I'll leave that up to you. In he meantime you've hardly defended your consistently obnoxious behavior, and have ignored pretty specific evidence against you, including this quite damning edit. I'll keep a weather eye on my inbox for anything you might care to send my way, but I'm far from inclined to believe you're being unfairly targeted. DickTurpis (talk) 16:14, 10 July 2011 (UTC)
Whether I am a troll or not is a complete red herring. It is irrelevant. RW does not discriminate against trolls. Or at least it shouldn't. I am obnoxious because I enjoy it. Psygremlin is obnoxious because he doesn't know how to be anything else. There is a difference. I've stated already my philosophical purpose here, many times. RW will eventually accept that it will undergo symbiosis, and that is all there is to say about that. (talk) 16:18, 10 July 2011 (UTC)
No, it's not irrelevant, I'm afraid. And if you've stated your "philosophical purpose" I seem to have missed it. To me it appears to be to stir up shit. If that's the case then it's no wonder 90% of the membership here wants you gone. DickTurpis (talk) 16:38, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

Marcus, the allegations you bring could have huge repercussions. You allege that the "elite" of the wiki have been "contracting you out" to eliminate annoying n00bs, like a thug payed to attack Tahrir demonstrators. If you are serious, then release these emails and state who tried to use you to purge the wiki. I assure you it is in the interests of both the wiki and yourself to be honest.--Talpidae (talk) 16:44, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

Free MarcusCicero[edit]

Anon supports MarcusCicero. Anon demands that he be unblocked.


I wonder why are you so addicted to this word? I mean, eh, of course they are all wankers and they are all whiny to some degree, but so are you. (I myself don't do anything so immoral, but I'm way to cool for this site anyway). I once knew a man whose every other word was somehow related to homosexuality: "gays this, gays that, I saw gay porn when I was in Germany, it was so yucky" etc etc and his obsession was so obvious that he actually turned out to be gay himself, I wonder if this is happening here too? Are you addicted to masturbation? Do you watch too much porn? Don't be afraid to ask for help; Doctor Fifty-Nine helps everyone! (except those bastards 58 and 57)

You should start by simply regulating your masturbation frequency. It is possible for teenagers like you to cure masturbation without medication, but it highly depends on the degree of the damage in the brain's acetylcholine, dopamine and serotonin nervous systems. To regulate your ejaculation frequency, you have to learn the recycling of sexual energy with the Anal Breathing Method, which allows you to burn testosterone in the tailbone area to recharge the brain and spinal nerves via the tailbone sensory-parasympathetic nervous circuits in S1-S5 and CO. It will take you 6-12 months to master this method.

You have to change your diet too. Reduce the intake of red meat and cheese (down to 30-50%) and increase the intake of seeds, nuts, beans, fresh fruits and vegetables. --Idiot number 59 (talk) 21:03, 3 August 2011 (UTC)

Where are you now?[edit]

Hey MC, why don't I see you around here any more? --Steven Kavanagh (talk) 18:48, 13 November 2011 (UTC)

Banninated. --MtDPinko Scum 20:46, 13 November 2011 (UTC)


Why do so many of your sockpuppets make a point of repeatedly saying unpleasant things about gay people & gay sex? You seem to return to this theme an awful lot, and it's starting to look like you just like saying those things, under the flimsy pretext of parody. ŴêâŝêîôîďWeaselly.jpgMethinks it is a Weasel 18:50, 17 March 2013 (UTC)

Because homophobia brings all the self righteous dickheads scurrying out of their lairs. I'm not homophobic at all. Sorry, missed this post. (talk) 21:26, 11 May 2013 (UTC)


When is Marcus' ban up? Should be soon. I would like the honor of unblocking him if I may. Nutty Roux100x100 anarchy symbol.svg 22:46, 11 May 2013 (UTC)

Sometime in August, if I remember right. ΨΣΔξΣΓΩΙÐWeaselly.jpgMethinks it is a Weasel 22:47, 11 May 2013 (UTC)
Um, Nutty, you should consider checking his block log. If you did, you would realize he isn't blocked. He was blocked until 12 July, until someone unblocked him two months ago. --Token Conservative (talk) 22:54, 11 May 2013 (UTC)
I would just like to take this opportunity to congratulate RationalWiki on it's just and wise decision to allow one of the great contributors a chance at redemption. Marcus has asked me to assure you that from this point on he will be a model citizen of RW and work tirelessly to its continual improvement. The mercy shown by the citizens of RationalWiki befits an organisation of charity and liberty such as it is. --Titus Atticus (talk) 23:01, 11 May 2013 (UTC)
And yet he is nowhere to be seen... Tielec01 (talk) 00:42, 17 May 2013 (UTC)
He's banned, notwithstanding me having unblocked him early as a complex political statement. He knows the rules. He's also a busy guy. Nutty Roux100x100 anarchy symbol.svg 01:09, 17 May 2013 (UTC)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────Anyway, welcome back Marcus. Your approach seems to have evolved and your schedule changed significantly. I look forward to you finding time to give your insight and help sweeping the appalling levels of groupthink out of this "community." It's humiliating. Nutty Roux100x100 anarchy symbol.svg 13:25, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

Don't worry, I'll root out and expose the undesirables. MarcusCicero (talk) 14:37, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

I made you a medal for your efforts[edit]

For fighting fascism. –Александр(а) Ehrenstein (Talk | Contribs | Ragebox) 03:39, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

You can add it to your talk page with this:

{{User:Inquisitor Ehrenstein/DefenderAgainstFascism}}

Александр(а) Ehrenstein (Talk | Contribs | Ragebox) 03:43, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

Considering voting for you[edit]


I looked at your campaigning and so far I'm impressed. I want you to look at the edit history of Ruth Bader Ginsburg and this subsequent development. I feel like my contributions in said case were valid and that I was being unjustly attacked due to being a Conservapedia editor who's not very liked here. I don't mind the fact that Hippocrite disagrees with me, what's bothering me is the fact that he removed my contributions without giving an explanation for what was wrong with them and then threw a litany of ad hominems at me. Would you as a moderator help prevent such occurrences from happening? - ConservapediaMarkman (talk) 21:14, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

Let me be clear - personal abuse when is warranted and to be encouraged in certain cases. Furthermore the way to change mainspace articles you disagree with is by editing the article in question and then creating a discussion in the talk page. If the person is still being a dick, just keep editing the article until the mob gets its act together and deals with the fuckwit (whomever that may be) in question. By 'dealing' with that person, I mean telling him to stop being a wanker and fuck off if he doesn't like it. Constant reversion and edit warring is essentially vandalism and vandalism should be dealt with by bans. I have no issue with banning vandals who interfere with mainspace. But talk pages should have every kind of voice heard, regardless of how silly or irritating. If you are looking for somebody willing to utilise the moderatorship machine, then I'm afraid you will have wasted your vote by giving it to me. I don't think you understand what I mean by 'abolitionist'. MarcusCicero (talk) 21:41, 18 June 2013 (UTC)
Right, because war causes more and better change than peace. Durk Titanium (talk) 21:43, 18 June 2013 (UTC)
Firstly, why is change automatically considered to be a good thing? Secondly, people living in totalitarian systems have 'peace', but they don't have liberty. I'm sure you wouldn't really care too much about liberty though so long as the riff raff were off the streets and the trains ran on time. MarcusCicero (talk) 20:46, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
I am planning to take my case to the Ginsburg talk page soon. I think that now I better understand your abolitionist plans. Just out of curiosity, how are you going to act as an abolitionist moderator? Will that be the same as the absenteeism of Sinn Fein? - ConservapediaMarkman (talk) 21:47, 18 June 2013 (UTC)
Similar to Sinn Fein, but the key difference is that I would use my influence in the relevant platforms to make a case for abolition. I would not partake in 'dispute resolution' measures. The only exception I would make would be in taking down a moderator who had abused his powers (In my opinion simply being a moderator is an abuse of power) MarcusCicero (talk) 20:46, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

Can somebody upload this campaign poster for me?[edit]

Can't -- it saves weird, just a black screen. maybe because it's a GIF? If I knew the way/I would take you home. 22:22, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

Quickmeme plays games with their html to keep leeches from grabbing the image too easily. Try and see what you get. Sprocket J Cogswell (talk) 23:15, 18 June 2013 (UTC)
Done..... If I knew the way/I would take you home. 03:37, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

Vandal Bin?[edit]

You've been un-binned for a while now. If I knew the way/I would take you home. 20:18, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

I've just unbinned affected IP addresses. WẽãšẽĩõĩďWeaselly.jpgMethinks it is a Weasel 20:23, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
Thanks. This message was really pissing me off;

Error icon.svg You are unable to edit because you have been placed into the vandal bin. You were put in the vandal bin by Rationalizer and the reason given was: "Autoblocked because your IP address has been recently used by "MarcusCicero". The reason given for MarcusCicero's block is: "Enforcement: preventing account creation. Parole on Aug 11" ". While we hope you had fun, we had to do something, so you can only make one edit every 30 minutes now. If this is a mistake or you have turned a new leaf please alert any sysops. You will be able to edit again in 18 minutes. The block ID is #2027. Please include this in any queries.

MarcusCicero (talk) 20:43, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

I said I've just unbinned affected IP addresses. ŴêâŝêîôîďWeaselly.jpgMethinks it is a Weasel 20:58, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

THE OLD ME - Fuck you Weaseloid, why the fuck are you so fucking stupid, I thanks thanks above and then posted the fucking annoying fucking vandal message I fucking got you fucking aspie prick

THE NEW ME - Thanks again Weaseloid. I think you may have gotten the wrong end of the stick though. MarcusCicero (talk) 21:00, 19 June 2013 (UTC)


Have you read Robin D.G. Kelley on Surrealism? If I knew the way/I would take you home. 17:03, 22 June 2013 (UTC)

No I haven't. Worthwhile? I Wiki'ed him and he seems like one of these stock academics who writes irritating and essentially meaningless books that America seems to excel in. MarcusCicero (talk) 17:06, 22 June 2013 (UTC)
Not worthwhile if you're going to base your reading on a Wikipedia article, I guess. If I knew the way/I would take you home. 17:11, 22 June 2013 (UTC)
Ah I didn't mean to be overly negative, but he seemed kinda irritating judging by his profile. I could be wrong, of course. MarcusCicero (talk) 22:06, 22 June 2013 (UTC)

Karl Popper argued that the open society cannot tolerate intolerance.[edit]

The problem with framing the debate like that is that "intolerance" can be a pretty open concept. There's a big difference between, say, holding a political viewpoint, or a religious belief, or a sexual identity that is at odds with that of the majority and expecting to be treated with the respect due a human being and a member of a particular "open society" regardless, and say, being an aggressive jerk who says reprehensible things to total strangers and expecting that behavior to be "tolerated." I fear that one may try to use the former as a cover for the latter. If I knew the way/I would take you home. 16:36, 23 June 2013 (UTC)

I think the fear is that extremists will avail of the liberal attitudes to dissent common in much of the west, but clearly would not reciprocate were they ever in power themselves. For much of the Postwar period this was very much an abstract concern, because the chances of an extremist party gaining absolute power in any western democracy was very remote. That has changed recently, of course, with the success of various neo nazi and right wing populist parties across Europe since the financial crisis. Should the Greeks ban Golden Dawn, a party that is so obviously far right neo-nazi that it doesn't even bother to hide it? Or should it tolerate it, hoping to engage in its ideas and thus change the votes of its mostly soft supporters? Would banning it do any good in the first place? Denying the holocaust in Greece can earn you a jail sentence, but clearly this has not stopped the rise of a party that either denies the holocaust or glorifies it. In my mind, criminalising opinions, however vile, is the road to madness. Better to recognise the rot rather than pretend it doesn't exist. MarcusCicero (talk) 16:42, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
I don't disagree. But I also think that's not quite what's at play in your choice of debate topics. If I knew the way/I would take you home. 16:48, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
How would you frame such a debate? MarcusCicero (talk) 16:49, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
I'm not too sure, and I need to get back to the books, but in this context, I would try to weave in a caveat that such things as personal attacks, language deployed for the sole reason of offending a particular individual, and behavior undertaken with the sole objective of undermining a particular "society" for no other reason than to undermine it are not included under the rubric of "things that need to be tolerated by the open society." If I knew the way/I would take you home. 16:56, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
How are you going to regulate such speech? Under your logic Geert Wilders would be banned from participating in Dutch politics (As well as many US Republican politicians) There would be too many exceptions that it would never be workable. It would get Orwellian, very quickly. You would be institutionalising political correctness, and degrading the very concept you want to protect in the first place. Better to tolerate the fascist or hateful remarks rather than run off with the statute book every time somebody says something mean. MarcusCicero (talk) 16:59, 23 June 2013 (UTC)

Latin, really?[edit]

I mean, i love sounding pretentious and far more airy then i really am as much as the next guy, but you marcus are a man of the people! and the people don't speak latin they use the vulgar language of the people! --MikallakiM 18:30, 2 July 2013 (UTC)

Fuck you[edit]

Autistic revenge: banhammers! –Александр(а) (Talk | Contribs | Ragebox) 00:14, 3 July 2013 (UTC)

Being aware that you have Aspergers mean being aware of how people might respond to you. I thought you described your experience of that pretty well. That said, you are now Sasha the Cruel. Nutty Roux100x100 anarchy symbol.svg 00:46, 3 July 2013 (UTC)
Take it easy pal. I honestly think asperger's is a made up fucking condition, a few people share character traits and all of a sudden they have a 'disease'. Takes all sorts to make a world, of course. We know very little about the brain, in truth. MarcusCicero (talk) 19:49, 3 July 2013 (UTC)

Hahaha brilliant![edit]

MC a mod? Well done! Brilliant! Acei9 19:11, 9 July 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, congrats bro! That's a turn up for the book. Steven Kavanagh (talk) 20:39, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
Congrats Comrade. I can already feel my chains bounding my body being broken. - ConservapediaMarkman (talk) 20:45, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
Bourgeois democracy is an illusion and it is my aim to shatter it. The mobocracy must... no, it WILL be restored, by revolutionary means if necessary. MarcusCicero (talk) 20:48, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
We haven't always seen eye-to-eye MC, but I will follow your lead. Acei9 20:52, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
Ace, what are you like with an AK47? Because the counter-revolution is coming Ace, it is coming, and we all better be prepared. MarcusCicero (talk) 20:53, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
Thats a joke by the way, in case some humourless aspie decides that I'm literally calling for armed insurrection. MarcusCicero (talk) 20:54, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
Well, I'm not joking. I can handle an AK quite well, Sir
Thanks for making me a sysop. My plan now is to wait it out and see how the regime handles the representation of the popular will and whether they will crush the people with an iron fist. MarcusCicero (talk) 21:01, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
I have unsysopped you. You're a big boy now and are capable of changing your own rights. Try them out. Redchuck.gif ГенгисYou have the right to be offended; and I have the right to offend you.Moderator 21:08, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
It seems I did not have to wait long for the regime to make its initial counter revolutionary move, a pity that it would have to be Genghis. The moderate facade of this odious regime, who would become its shrill enforcer. MarcusCicero (talk) 21:12, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
Silly boy. You are now a mod and have the ability to change your own rights rather than relying on a lackey. Maybe you aren't up to the job after all. Redchuck.gif ГенгисRationalWiki GOLD memberModerator 21:18, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
Genghis. I did figure it out in the end. Of course I'm not 'up' to the job, my intention is to abolish the job and restore Rationalwiki to its ancestral state of liberty. MarcusCicero (talk) 21:20, 9 July 2013 (UTC)

Moderator election[edit]

You have won the election to be a moderator (although you probably already know that). Congratulations! I'd suggest putting ATIM on your watchlist, if it isn't there already.--ADtalkModerator 15:25, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

Me racist?[edit]

Not really, Why? --Turnerted (talk) 21:09, 16 July 2013 (UTC)


Have you ever thought that your desired return to the mobocracy (which we haven't really left) is reactionary rather than revolutionary? That you're in fact just promoting the interests of the wiki-bourgeois? That you're nothing but a Girondin?--"Shut up, Brx." 22:54, 16 July 2013 (UTC)

It is an interesting point you raise Brx, but given the resistance of the bourgeois to the changes it is unlikely that this is all some sort of grand conspiracy. How could it ever be in their best interests to be disbanded, dis-empowered and discarded? It is good to see that you are finally back Marcus, not the kowtowing impostor of the last couple of weeks. For two long years we have awaited your return; to be this close to triumph is sweet indeed. Tielec01 (talk) 06:16, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
I didn't say it was a conspiracy. I'm saying he's a tool (all the while playing the little melodrama and politics game we're so fond of here)--"Shut up, Brx." 10:48, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
Brx, you're widely disliked and hated. That is all. Carry on. Marcus Cicero SPQR100x100 anarchy symbol.svg 19:08, 18 July 2013 (UTC)


How are you today? I'm somewhat new here. Messiah of Doom- Unite with thy Oracle (talk) 01:51, 25 September 2013 (UTC)

Oh Marcus, where have you gone?[edit]

Go oft to the houses of thy people, for weeds choke the unused path. Tielec01 (talk) 04:07, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

Hey buddy[edit]

How have you been, good sir? I don't often come here much anymore. Acei9 03:09, 19 December 2013 (UTC)

For the hell of it[edit]

Someone nominated you for a moderator position. Can't say the prospect of your reelection excites me, but I thought someone should point the fact that you need to accept or decline your nomination out to you. WalkerWalkerWalker 06:45, 3 November 2015 (UTC)

And again![edit]

Someone nommed you for moderator again! Feel free to spice up the election. ;) (talk) 03:10, 24 December 42015 AQD (UTC)

What exactly is your agenda?[edit]

And why do people make such a big bruhaha out of you possibly becoming a mod? Oh and by the way: Zionism and Gamergate? Avengerofthe BoN (talk) 23:03, 5 January 2016 (UTC)

The Republic calls you in its time of need[edit]

Quick, Tullius, rise to the defense of Great Rome against the populares traitors! Oxyaena Harass 06:17, 29 May 2019 (UTC)

You can't unring a bell--"Shut up, Brx." 06:24, 29 May 2019 (UTC)
Bah. The Republic is weak. It is dying. You blind fools are allowing it to fall into ruin because you persist in upholding the false virtues of "fairness", "freedom", and "equality". You have doomed the Republic. Soon, the people will see what I see: that the only hope for salvation is to install me as Supreme Leader, so I may benevolently use my powers to stabilize the Republic and purify it of its weakness in one glorious stroke of redemptive violence. Pizza SLICE.gifDuceMoosoliniYour friendly RW dictator moderator 06:27, 29 May 2019 (UTC)
You dare call yourself the rejuvenator of the great Roman Republic?! Bah! Pond scum would be a better successor to the great and noble Senate than you are. Oxyaena Harass 06:29, 29 May 2019 (UTC)


Whatever happened to this cunt? And where's his novel about RW? Avida Dollarsher again 11:43, 13 March 2021 (UTC)