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Grab a goat and rest easy. Alec Sanderson (talk) 23:29, 8 August 2015 (UTC)

thanks— Unsigned, by: Jakester499 / talk / contribs

Dumb question[edit]

You know the green/red text on the contributions part, is that some kind of like/dislike system

It's marking how many characters (letters, numbers) were added or removed in the edit.KrytenKoro (talk) 18:09, 3 October 2015 (UTC)

Thanks {{Does anyone else think Chris Christie is the lawyer from Stephen King's Thinner Jakester499 (talk) 18:32, 3 October 2015 (UTC)}}


Can you sign your posts with either --~~~~ or the pencil icon on the bar above the text box?--"Paravant" Talk & Contribs 04:49, 3 October 2015 (UTC)

Okay but idk how? Jakester499

don't include the nowiki part--"Paravant" Talk & Contribs 04:49, 3 October 2015 (UTC)


Please don't edit other people's comments.--"Paravant" Talk & Contribs 04:51, 3 October 2015 (UTC)

Sorry— Unsigned, by: Jakester499 / talk / contribs

For the love of all that is holy in the world, sign your posts! Reverend Black Percy (talk) 01:47, 7 October 2015 (UTC)


...he grew up with this deviant theology, although he doesn't hold with with it himself—the doctrine that Jesus was a supernatural vessel for the Gatekeeper is inner doctrine, but he considers the idea that the Sermon on the Mount was delivered by a sockpuppet for the Sleeper in the Pyramid to be somewhere between implausible and hilarious.

Cheers! :)KrytenKoro (talk) 18:09, 3 October 2015 (UTC)

Who said that or did you just coin it Either way you bring up a good point :-) Jakester499 (talk) (Does anyone else think Chris Christie is the lawyer from Stephen King's Thinner 19:16, 3 October 2015 (UTC))

Charles Stross, who is awesome.KrytenKoro (talk) 19:15, 29 October 2015 (UTC)

Goals, clubs, etc.[edit]

Might be worth your while to write up an Essay rather than posting your thoughts, as they come, on the Saloon Bar. αδελφός ΓυζζγςατΡοτατο (talk/stalk) 20:42, 3 October 2015 (UTC)

Or just use your user page, which will leave less page clutter--"Paravant" Talk & Contribs 21:47, 3 October 2015 (UTC)

How to[edit]

On talk pages, please sign your comments using four tildes (~~~~) or by clicking on the sign button: SigButt.png on the toolbar above the edit panel. You can also indent successive talk page comments using one more colon (:) for each line. Thank you. Alec Sanderson (talk) 22:55, 4 October 2015 (UTC)


So i'm going to leave this here, and I reccomend you read all of the links involving what Rationalwiki is before posting more threads or making any more plans for the website.

New logo large.png Your welcome to RationalWiki is lukewarm at best, Jakester499.

This observation is due to the nature of your initial edits. Pull up a goat and try not to make trouble.

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We are not a vandal base or a troll den, and if that is what you expect us to be, leave. --"Paravant" Talk & Contribs 01:41, 7 October 2015 (UTC)

Got it.— Unsigned, by: Jakester499 / talk / contribs
And sign your posts! Reverend Black Percy (talk) 11:51, 7 October 2015 (UTC)

Sorry--Jakester499 (talk) 15:47, 8 October 2015 (UTC)

Nothing to be sorry about - just make sure you always sign them and there's no problem. Thank you in advance! Reverend Black Percy (talk) 15:51, 8 October 2015 (UTC)

Your persistent herding of pseudoscientists into the UFOlogy cat[edit]

I've given you Mike Bara, as a freebie, OK? Let that be enough. You really cannot have Hoagland and Brandenburg. Study their writings and reconsider, please. Okay, I will.--Jakester499 (talk) 00:20, 11 October 2015 (UTC) Ithaca8 (talk) 23:46, 10 October 2015 (UTC)


--"Paravant" Talk & Contribs 16:35, 28 October 2015 (UTC)

--"Paravant" Talk & Contribs 01:35, 29 October 2015 (UTC)

Accepted and Solved (?)[edit]

Hey, Jakester499. Came across your anagram. My stab at a solution is on the Saloon Bar entry. Regards, --OneEyedJack (talk) 18:59, 1 November 2015 (UTC)

Wrong it's actually Lois Griffin Turanga Leele and Marge Simpson are alien demons from the planet Kepler442b

I see now that I had an extra letter left over and unused when working out my proposed answer... Good anagram. Cheers. --OneEyedJack (talk) 00:33, 7 November 2015 (UTC) You are correct--Jakester499 (talk) 02:51, 9 November 2015 (UTC)


We aren't gamefaqs.--"Paravant" Talk & Contribs 01:18, 16 November 2015 (UTC)

Alex Jones ELI5[edit]

My position that Alex Jones does not believe the things he says can be traced directly to a simple analysis of Alex Jones's potential reasons for making these outrageous claims.

Why does every other person who makes outrageous claims as part of their profession do it? Charlatans, fakirs, hucksters, faith healers, psychics, televangelists, professional bigfoot hunters, tabloids, TMZ, homeopathic quacks, spiritualists, cold readers, etc.; they all make these outrageous claims for money. Why should Jones be any different? He does this for a living, he's not even hiding that he does it for a living. Alex Jones is perfectly capable of being lucid when its in his best interest but whenever its in his best interest to talk like a crazy person that's exactly what he does. When Ron Paul used to come on his show he'd make these great big changes in the way he communicates. He stopped with the outrageous crazy talk and tried to make his inferences as subtle as possible to keep his message on point but not so blatant as to cause an allergic reaction in his guest. Real live mentally ill people do not have that kind of control; they lack the ability to turn it on and off whenever it is convenient.

Through the use of Occam's Razor, it is simply that Alex Jones is more likely to be motivated by money than delusion because he is clearly heavily profiting from making these claims. For example, when you go to the grocery store and see a tabloid that makes a claim like, "MADONNA ELOPES WITH THE ALLIGATOR MAN OF LOUISIANA" or "ALIENS ABDUCT J-LO'S BABY" you don't automatically think that any of it is true. You think to yourself, "wow, who would believe such a thing?" If you bother to think for a second about the reasons for writing such a thing, it becomes very apparent that the reason for writing and publishing that article is so that people will give them money in exchange for their publication. Alex Jones makes his money off of advertising and he makes A LOT OF MONEY. That translates into all the reasons an ethically bankrupt person could ever have to lie. Lying to obtain profit is sadly a pretty popular pastime.

Furthermore, due to the heavy conflagration of outrageous and unbelievable claims made by Alex Jones over the years it strikes me as less and less likely that Alex Jones could ever believe every one of these outrageously unlikely things that he claims to be true. They are not only unlikely individually but in combination with each other they become a conflagration of stretches of the imagination. Combined with the fact that Alex Jones does not allow any rational dissenting discussion of these conspiracy theories on his radio show, it becomes apparent that Alex Jones is engaging in an intelligent effort to shape his narrative to jam in as much intrigue as possible. A truly crazy person would listen to a well reasoned argument and then respond with their own crazy arguments; not only that, but the things they said would often be entirely self contradictory in obvious ways because they do not have the cognitive facilities to keep it all straight. They have the certainty of the mad on their side. Alex Jones on the other hand doesn't allow criticism or intelligent discussions to be had at all in any way and when he is criticized in public he flies into a screaming fit of self promotion that are conveniently timed so that he does not have to defend his positions in an open format. Alex Jones is only crazy for money. Pelican (talk) 23:04, 29 November 2015 (UTC)


Because of your edits to and time on the wiki, wizard Sysop has been added to your user rights. Feel free to let your newfound POWER course through your veins. Once the high wears off, see RationalWiki:Sysop guide for more information. If you have questions, bleat ask away.

Note that you have a history of somewhat spammy edits. Sysop can be easily removed, but, contingent on good behavior, I hope it helps you in making your substantive edits! FᴜᴢᴢʏCᴀᴛPᴏᴛᴀᴛᴏ, Esϙᴜɪʀᴇ (talk/stalk) 03:24, 10 March 2016 (UTC)

Old userpage[edit]

Would you prefer it to be suppressed? oʇɐʇoԀʇɐϽʎzznℲ (talk/stalk) 04:21, 9 May 2016 (UTC) No.--Jakester499 (talk) 13:44, 9 May 2016 (UTC)

Making categories[edit]

You might wanna check {{category}} to prettify. FuzzyCatPotato!™ (talk/stalk) 02:04, 10 May 2016 (UTC)


Stop it, half this crap is nothing of the sort. The "alt-right" is a specific thing, not just any random crap that happens to be far-right. And adding LessWrong to it is being too inane to be allowed tools - David Gerard (talk) 11:47, 15 May 2016 (UTC)

I appreciate the fact that you have created new categories, but as DG said, don't add them to pages where they don't belong. Not everything is "alt-right".--JorisEnter (talk) 12:46, 15 May 2016 (UTC)

Got it--Jakester499 (talk) 17:13, 15 May 2016 (UTC)


You first restored my edits on Fascism but then removed them. May I ask why? JohnLogan (talk) 10:39, 11 January 2020 (UTC)

Recent changes[edit]

Hey, just looking over your recent edits -- are you really into pseudomythology? Jake Holmesyell at me 19:33, 13 November 2021 (UTC)

Idk. Just thought it needed a category. --Jakester499 (talk) 20:33, 13 November 2021 (UTC)

Speaking of socialism[edit]

Communism has more totalitarian tendencies than socialism, so no, you can't categorise socialism as totalitarianism. 2405:4802:A1F0:6FF0:FC69:C91B:3074:BBA2 (talk) 02:04, 27 July 2022 (UTC)

Socialism is absolutely linked to totalitarianism and populist ideocracies. Look at North Kore under the Kim Family, Saddamist Iraq, Nasserist Egypt and Syria, Assadist Syria, numerous developing countries throughout the Cold War used collective ownership (a.e. State ownership) of the means of production for authoritarian and totalitarian purposes also including Ne Win’s Myanmar and populist ideocracies (a populist ideocracy is almost the same as totalitarianism except instead of the state forcing the ideology into the people the people first force the ideology onto the state with overwhelming popular support which suppresses all political dissent and political pluralism, reverting authority based on charismatic authority, same as totalitarianism except people led except state led— examples include Nasserist Egypt and Syria, Chavezist Venezuela, Peronist Argentina etc. In practice these regimes are a kind of inverse totalitarianism (not in the since the United States is called one) or “democratic” totalitarianism, but usually has the same results (look at Syria and Venezuela today for instance.) Please feel free to criticize my views, though.--Jakester499 (talk) 03:41, 31 July 2022 (UTC)

Jesus Myth Theory and Post Keynesian economics[edit]

Both articles are beyond redemption and should be either deleted or WP:TNTWikipedia IMO. I'll probably do this with the Post Keynesian article in the future if I have time, but I'm not qualified to write about Jesus and a deletion attempt failed some time ago, so I'll just try to kill off some of the spinoffs, like Second-god (Christ), which is probably one of the worst articles on the entire site by any measurement imaginable. Regards. GeeJayK (talk) 16:12, 28 August 2022 (UTC)

Thanks--Jakester499 (talk) 18:06, 28 August 2022 (UTC)


You might want to check this out. GeeJayKWhere all evil dwells Where every lie is true 02:25, 4 December 2022 (UTC)

Fixing your signature[edit]

Just so you're aware, it's not [[User contributions:Jakester499]], it's [[Special:Contributions/Jakester499]]. Plutocow (talk) 21:56, 4 May 2023 (UTC)

Thank you very much--Jakester499 (talk) (Special:Contributions/Jakester499) 22:09, 4 May 2023 (UTC)