User talk:Kazitor/Archive2

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Filter 48

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Special:AbuseFilter/48

I tried to turn off blocking users for all filters in case of false positives --> any reason why 48 should block spambots? They seem to stop trying after 2 or 3 failed attempts (which the filter stops anyway) Fuzzy "Cat" Potato, Jr. (talk/stalk) 13:08, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

@FuzzyCatPotato Enabling "block" was a conscious decision, as in my experience the accounts that create fake bios spam elsewhere afterwards. I think the conditions are pretty tight (especially being first edit), and affected accounts can still post on their talk pages. But I guess we can see if disabling it again is alright; at the time there was an extremely heavy bombardment of spam. —Kazitor 05:54, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

Re: Reservations about me

It's 12:30 am, I am editing mobile because the internet is out in my PC, and I've accidentally posted on RobSmith's talk page intending to discuss my personal flaws and problematic actions. Pain in the ass to highlight and move content back. Would you be so kind to restore my comment by putting it in the appropriate section, here? --It's-a me, 🎄LeftyGreenMario!🎄 07:30, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

The reason I rescinded some actions quickly, at some complaints, as that I regretted them and didn't have much confidence in the first place. Additionally, I don't want to make enemies out of people, especially regular users, and I feel they were right and I don't want to give the impression I am doubling down or ignoring it, which would further deteriorate their trust in me, or as I fear. I did perceive the earlier sysoprevoke on RWRW as something that should be enforced, because we put an emphasis on mobocracy, not anarchy, and there would be little point in Coop decisions if one person can just reverse it.

The modhat thing, I haven't used it in quite a while actually and I thought my judgement was fair because it was over some bickering that I feel would've stopped if the hat was tipped. I don't fully understand the rules of moderators, to be honest. It seema poorly defined and so I have to use my own metric on whenever mod powers is appropriate. As no one has said I am going far (unlike sysop revoke) I assume what I have done is appropriate and my judgement is good. In way, it's validated. So that's why I used it more. --It's-a me, 🎄LeftyGreenMario!🎄 07:19, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

@LeftyGreenMario there you go. I too have other, more important things to do right now, so I'll get back to this at a later time/date. —Kazitor 07:33, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

@LeftyGreenMario Since I'm not working on what I really should be anyway...

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ First of all I must stress that these reservations are not major issues :) It's easy to only express negatives because they're far easier to notice, but please don't get the impression I hate you or think you're unsuitable for any role

If you aren't very confident in making certain authoritative actions, I think it is best those actions go unperformed. Most of the time drama isn't even an issue, but otherwise it mostly necessitates a gentle nudge in the right direction, usually just a simple reminder to keep it civil and get to the matter at hand.

I am confused by "there would be little point in Coop decisions if one person can just reverse it." There was no coop decision to keep RWRW from being mopped, and the case started about us shouldn't have been as there was no community standards violation nor impending HCM.

I guess now I've said you were going too far; I didn't want to say anything before because complaining about a major editor is an automatic HCM 4 after all :) These concerns are actually what I was talking about here but I was too averse to say it.

Just keep the philosophy in mind: only take minimal action when absolutely necessary; don't feel you have to make a judgement on any issue anywhere out of a slight concern it could get worse. —Kazitor 00:25, 16 August 2018 (UTC)

Noob here, Don't know how to PM someone, having a two-man edit war and need third-party help.

@Kazitor Hi. So yeah, I'm somewhat new here and haven't really figured out how to PM someone, but I need help with someone you've dealt with in the past (and I'm not really sure where I'd look for the proper help), GramarCommie. Among other things, he refuses to accept the notion that something can be timeless, in spite of it being scientifically established that thinks like black holes and photons do not experience time, and has so far failed to give a real expanation for why.

Exibit A) https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/User_talk:GrammarCommie#Edit_of_the_.22Self-Refuting_Idea.22_article

Exibit B) https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Talk:Escape_hatch#a_poor_argument_and_an_ad_hominemSkadooshbag (talk) 17:35, 22 August 2018 (UTC)

@Skadooshbag Oh hey, I don't have to unblock myself to respond on my talk page :D First and foremost, if you're having difficulties with other users, you should address a moderator; here's a current list. With regards to PM, there's people's talk pages (like this), but some users might have enabled email in their preferences. There's a link to do that in the "Tools" on the sidebar, it says "Email this user".

But if I'm honest, not having looked through those discussions particularly thoroughly, nothing seems too problematic. It doesn't seem to me that relativity has much to do with it.

Anyway, I blocked myself for a reason so I can't really get involved with this; again, it's a moderator that you should talk to. Sorry I can't really help. —Kazitor 22:21, 22 August 2018 (UTC)

Well thanks for explaining how this works, at least.Skadooshbag (talk) 00:33, 23 August 2018 (UTC)

I've Been Thinking

About dropping out of the election. Mostly because I don't want my identity associated with the Foundation's public documents. I ran because it seemed like someone had to, and now we've got quite a few worthy somebodies. Since it seems like we were kind of in agreement on a few things, I would appreciate your input before I decide. RoninMacbeth (talk) 04:59, 25 August 2018 (UTC)

@RoninMacbeth It's "just" a name on some tax documents, right? Obviously whatever you do with your time and to whom you give personal information is completely up to you, so you should drop out if you really feel uncomfortable with that. It does seem that a fair few long-time users are in the running so you don't need to be there to displace them.

I guess I would suggest you think about the campaign promises you made: are those things you really want to see in place? Because if so, you might want to be on the board to make it happen. You could still pester other members about it, but surely being a member yourself would help. If you don't feel too strongly about it, then you're not losing much by dropping out.

So basically, run if you want to help cause that change; drop out if you don't care that much. In the end, it's your choice. —Kazitor 05:06, 25 August 2018 (UTC)

For what it's worth, the current state of the wiki is quite problematic in my opinion, and I've been giving some thought to becoming less involved with it myself. —Kazitor 05:10, 25 August 2018 (UTC)

Problematic? How so? Not that I necessarily disagree. RoninMacbeth (talk) 05:31, 25 August 2018 (UTC)

@RoninMacbeth Since I spent some time earlier thinking about just that, I've actually managed to determine precisely what I think: seems to me that the only thing the major users want to do is laugh at everyone who disagrees with them, rather than taking time to engage, debate, and possibly persuade them. No wonder "we" don't have a very good reputation outside of the few groups that agree; nobody likes being laughed at, especially without good reasoning. —Kazitor 05:35, 25 August 2018 (UTC)

Block and Protection default durations

Hello, did you or one of the other Techs change the default block/protection settings? If so could you add the single day duration back to the protection options? It's handy for deterring short term vandal sprees that don't warrant longer protection in my opinion. ☭Comrade GC☭^{Ministry of Praise} 14:49, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

@GrammarCommie just use 31415 seconds (about 9 hours) —Kazitor 03:23, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

Ovadia Yosef

The article had unpleasant vandalism to it - can you sort the matter out and restore as appropriate. Anna Livia (talk) 16:11, 2 October 2018 (UTC)

Python

Since you mentioned elsewhere that you do some programming in Python in addition to other languages, may I ask for your opinion on that language compared to the other ones? Which version of Python do you use? Thanks! Nerd (talk) 14:27, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

Version 3, naturally. I tend to use it a fair bit because it's a convenient scripting language, and the few aspects that are odd aren't severe enough to turn me off. Things likes capitalising constants and the like. —Kazitor 20:57, 7 October 2018 (UTC)