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Organic food[edit]

I like things like "Desulfidated sulphur dioxide" because it lets you put a scary-sounding chemical and something that sounds like an industrial process in there, so it must be bad! :D Nog Bogmire (talk) 22:07, 19 July 2017 (UTC)

For your eyes only[edit]

Check RationalWiki:Dumpster dive of the week. Cømяade FυzzчCαтPøтαтø (talk/stalk) 22:35, 2 September 2017 (UTC)


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Awesome Award[edit]


A close up of an awesome, amazing goat's face.

Awesome Award

for Kazitor/Archive1

Reason: being awesome

ClickerClock (talk) 07:15, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

Well, thanks, I guess? —Kazitor, pending 08:36, 8 October 2017 (UTC)


Make sure you don't patrol blatant vandalism as you did here, I'm sure it was a mistake. Christopher (talk) 20:49, 15 October 2017 (UTC)

Just realised how passive aggressive that sounded, sorry! Christopher (talk) 20:50, 15 October 2017 (UTC)
Didn't sound passive aggressive to me. Anyway, sorry. —Kazitor, pending 04:20, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

Github repo for dark mode theme[edit]

Yes or Nay? I can't find the original licensing info for the original css file but maybe it's under Wikipedia:Reusing Wikipedia content, it's legal? —ClickerClock (talk) 10:33, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

@ClickerClock I don't see how it could do any harm. Is there any way to have it automatically apply to the "live" version? I probably ought to sign up for a github account one of these days, anyway... I have used SourceTree in the past though, so it's not like version control is over my head. —Kazitor, pending 11:33, 16 October 2017 (UTC)
I'm new to programming + github! I think we will try and find a way to automatically push to the gadget. I think a bot that detects changes in the Master branch, than pastes the code in? —ClickerClock (talk) 11:43, 16 October 2017 (UTC)
The bot will have to convert the .sass to .css —ClickerClock (talk) 11:44, 16 October 2017 (UTC)
Huh, so sass is another css preprocessor? I've heard of less. Anyway, it's getting a bit late so nothing from me for the next [x>17] hours. —Kazitor, pending 11:50, 16 October 2017 (UTC)
The repoClickerClock (talk) 11:48, 16 October 2017 (UTC)
I'll have a look at that tomorrow. —Kazitor, pending 11:50, 16 October 2017 (UTC)
heh heh, "tomorrow"... oops. Anyway, @ClickerClock, I've joined github now, anything special required from here? —Kazitor, pending 02:08, 21 October 2017 (UTC)
Not really, can you get started with a bot? —ClickerClock (talk) 02:12, 21 October 2017 (UTC) I don't even know where to begin with regards to that. Would it run on the RW server? Would it be like a regular user? —Kazitor, pending 02:15, 21 October 2017 (UTC)
RationalWiki:BotsClickerClock (talk) 11:56, 21 October 2017 (UTC)

We recently had a security breach[edit]

Info here about breach here.

Mind applying for a part time IT job at Rationalwiki? If so bug User:Human and User:Spud about it. Or they already hired a new IT person and I didn't know about it. —ClickerClock (talk) 00:41, 23 October 2017 (UTC)

Ok, when I first saw that heading I thought "What, another one?" But you're talking about the one last February, so that's ok :P I might be interested in some part time work, thanks for the notice :) —Kazitor, pending 01:24, 23 October 2017 (UTC)

My page[edit]

I did a copy-paste - so the computer must have changed it.

My (occasional) correcting of typos in previous comments is habit (as I proof-edit generally). Anna Livia (talk) 11:07, 27 October 2017 (UTC)

Forex text[edit]

If you wish to do so delete my comment on the above talkpage (or equivalents elsewhere) - 'passing thoughts and doodles of no long term consequence.' Anna Livia (talk) 14:32, 8 November 2017 (UTC)

Copyright violation[edit]

How was it a copyright violation? --Onacompass (talk) 02:21, 15 November 2017 (UTC)

@Onacompass all images are protected by copyright by default. From what I could tell, that was an image they used on their twitter profile with no conditions allowed for usage elsewhere. —Kazitor, pending 04:12, 15 November 2017 (UTC)


  • Opening or attention getter - Address the individual: "Kazitor,"
  • State your concern - Express your analysis of the situation in a direct manner while owning your emotions about it. "I'm looking forward to becoming a regular editor on RationalWiki, in part by discussing with you the joke on the page on Anarchism."
  • State the problem as you see it - "The sentence 'By the way, any information relating to anarchists should be reported to your local police' is not explicitly marked as a joke, so RationalWiki might lose angered audience members or otherwise take this seriously."
  • State a solution - "Let's explicitly mark the sentence as a joke or delete the sentence."
  • Obtain agreement (or buy-in) - "How does that sound to you?"-- (talk) 03:32, 19 November 2017 (UTC)
The statement is marked as a joke. Following the sentence is a little bit of superscript text saying "[note 1]". Hovering over it, or clicking it, reveals "This is a joke in reference to the Westminster, U.K. police issuing a memo stating just that." —Kazitor, pending 03:41, 19 November 2017 (UTC)
  • Opening or attention getter - Address the individual: "Kazitor,"
  • State your concern - Express your analysis of the situation in a direct manner while owning your emotions about it. "I'm clarifying that the marking as a joke is not immediately visible."
  • State the problem as you see it - "Hovering over or having to click the superscript is a barrier to communication that the sentence is a joke. That one would have to hover over or click the superscript to know whether it is a joke is not actually obvious. For all an audience member would know, the superscript is just another citation."
  • State a solution - "Let's explicitly mark the sentence as a joke or delete the sentence."
  • Obtain agreement (or buy-in) - "How does that sound to you?"-- (talk) 05:25, 19 November 2017 (UTC)
What is with your weird CRM thing? It's painful to read. Regardless, readers should expect a snarky tone on many of our articles. There are many "jokes" throughout the pages, and I believe the note is sufficient. Furthermore, I disagree that such a statement, if taken seriously, would have detrimental effects (I don't see how anyone would take it seriously, anyway). —Kazitor, pending 05:39, 19 November 2017 (UTC)
I've had trouble with task conflict on wikis ever since 2015. In my opinion, wikis are no more "free" as in "freedom" than any other enterprise, they're free as in beer. They have aspects of workplaces because they have collective decision-making, and like anything that has collective decision-making, like it or not, it has aspects of workplaces because it's a workplace. Despite the much smaller stakes here than in a cockpit, there is essentially the same problem, so I'm trying the part of their solution that I can understand.
My lame imagination's parody of Captain Al Haynes, who in turn was pilot of United Airlines Flight 232, credits Crew Resource Management.
the preparation that paid off for the crew was something ... called Cockpit Resource Management.... In Wikimedia, we kind of worked on the concept that the Tireless Contributor Barnstar holder or the person that on their userpage claimed to have accomplishments at university was THE authority on the wiki. What they said, goes. And we lost a few editors and audience members because of that. Sometimes the authority figure isn't as smart as we thought they were. And we would listen to them, and do what they said, and we wouldn't know what they're talking about. And we had 103 years of editing experience there in the content dispute, trying to get that decision made, not one minute of which we had actually practiced [under those failure conditions], any one of us. So why would I know more about making that decision under those conditions than the other three. So if I hadn't used [CRM], if we had not let everybody put their input in, it's a cinch we wouldn't have made it.-- (talk) 19:57, 19 November 2017 (UTC)
I still want to discuss this with you, but I think maybe I should just leave otherwise. CowHouse just told me that the matter is settled, and openly threatened to ignore me as a troll if I persist. And they actually used the word "troll". Can you please teach me the organization's culture?-- (talk) 04:41, 21 November 2017 (UTC)
You do seem to be obsessing way too much over a single minor detail. There are plenty of other statements like that and it's odd that you focus on that in particular. I do detect some slight hints of concern trolling. But hey, at least you didn't open with a five-line scaffold this time. —Kazitor, pending 06:14, 21 November 2017 (UTC) (talk) 22:57, 21 November 2017 (UTC)
Whether or not I am here and any course of my conduct whatsoever will not change that the lack of explicit marking will divide the community. I’m also recommending removal or explicit marking because of how the joke could represent the Guardian, and could be represented in debates in which at least one side uses RationalWiki. Also, not every reader of RationalWiki is familiar with the wiki’s culture, and because extremism is usually indistinguishable from a joke about extremism, someone may actually report any information relating to anarchists to police.-- (talk) 22:05, 23 November 2017 (UTC)
"the lack of explicit marking will divide the community." You're not serious, are you? Do you seriously expect that such a small, insignificant statement could cause such a rift? Nobody cared about it until you began your odd obsession with it. —Kazitor, pending 04:21, 24 November 2017 (UTC)
If I had an obsession, exactly what type of obsession do you believe it would be?-- (talk) 00:24, 25 November 2017 (UTC)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────One where you focus on a single sentence far too much out of the entire wiki. —Kazitor, pending 01:14, 25 November 2017 (UTC)

Kazitor, I think this BoN is sealioning. CowHouse (talk) 01:32, 25 November 2017 (UTC)
Don't worry, I suspected as much a while ago. —Kazitor, pending 01:39, 25 November 2017 (UTC)
"A particularly toxic thing about sealioning is that people who are genuine newbies asking serious questions are easy to mistake for sealions." How much of a rift are we talking about, exactly? -- (talk) 01:43, 26 November 2017 (UTC)
Are you using the Texas sharpshooter's fallacy?-- (talk) 06:11, 29 November 2017 (UTC)

Something I've Been Thinking About[edit]

I've been mulling something over, and I wanted to ask you, spectrum resident to spectrum resident.

If they (or we) could somehow cure autism, should the cure be used? I'm fairly high-functioning, so I'm personally inclined to say no. But what about people who are non-verbal, or can't easily function in society? Such a cure could help them. But then there's the issue that autism usually begins to present itself during one's younger years. Parents might then rush to cure what they see as an imminent threat to their child's future. My parents certainly didn't know how I would end up. In fact, the person who evaluated me said I'd be lucky to end up as a factory worker in a group home. Does the elimination of a potentially severe hindrance to a person's development outweigh the removal of a part of what the person is, without said person's permission?

I wanted to get another perspective on this. I'll, uh, see you later. RoninMacbeth (talk) 06:25, 19 November 2017 (UTC)

First of all, disclaimer: I've never actually been officially diagnosed with autism, but it does seem likely.
I guess it's quite a big hypothetical to assume a working cure, it's not really that sort of thing.
I think it goes without saying that in some cases, autism can certainly be highly detrimental. But there's also the fact that, it some cases, autistic people have greater aptitude/skill for certain things. Would this cure affect them? However, I would certainly say that in the cases where the person is otherwise unable to function "properly" (whatever that means), it would definitely be helpful then. —Kazitor, pending 09:49, 19 November 2017 (UTC)
If I may chip in, autism is a disease. What do we do with diseases? --Onacompass (talk) 02:29, 25 November 2017 (UTC)
And as you are not diagnosed with autism, and therefore not under the eyes of the medical profesion autism, allow me to decree you, honorary autist. --Onacompass (talk) 02:30, 25 November 2017 (UTC)

White supremacist[edit]

Why did you revert my edits? Are people opposed to rapid White decline often dishonestly called "White supremacists" or not? (talk) 11:44, 14 December 2017 (UTC)

For the simple reason that decline in proportion of white people ≠ white genocide. Genocide involves a group or groups actively trying to reduce the white population. I know of no such groups, at least not any responsibly for observed trends. —Kazitor, pending 04:15, 15 December 2017 (UTC)
That doesn't answer what I'm saying at all. Whether or not it's genocide or consciously promoted, and I would say it obviously is and obviously denied by those doing it, I asked "are people opposed to rapid White decline often dishonestly called "White supremacists" or not?" Answer this please. (talk) 09:49, 15 December 2017 (UTC)
Personally, I think it's a non-issue. It's not like any sort of "extinction" is imminent, or even likely. Hence there is nothing to be seriously opposed to. With nothing to be opposed to, they must have ulterior motives. Due to these motives being to counter a perceived extinction, they will enact actions to increase the white population. Such actions, privileging (oh wow, I actually just used that word) whites, would be fairly labelled as white supremacy, of sorts. —Kazitor, pending 11:44, 15 December 2017 (UTC)
It's a statistical fact that vis a vis other races the White race is in rapid decline. You're lying about that. The question is not whether you think that's an issue. The question is whether people who are concerned about that are dishonestly called "White supremacists". You're avoiding the question. Why? (talk) 12:14, 15 December 2017 (UTC)
I'm not avoiding the question. I thought I quite clearly answered it in the last sentence: "would be fairly labelled as white supremacy". That means "no", FYI. You have your opinion of the world, and seem to be unable to comprehend something that doesn't immediately agree with it. And of course, vis-à-vis "You're lying about that": see straw man. —Kazitor, pending 22:36, 15 December 2017 (UTC)

Allow me to add this: your debate style appears to be

  1. Just ask questions
  2. Ignore response (even if said response answers the question)
  3. "You're avoiding the question!"

So, if your next response follows this style, I'm going to completely ignore it. If you don't want to discuss this properly, then I won't waste my time trying.

If, however, you manage to raise some interesting points, I will give them the attention they deserve. —Kazitor, pending 23:03, 15 December 2017 (UTC)

Complimentary hug[edit]

Thanks for endorsing me! Th hug.gif-DιαμοπdDιςc1(talk) 04:53, 26 December 2017 (UTC)

No problemo. Have one back! Th hug.gifKazitor, pending 05:05, 26 December 2017 (UTC)

Turn on Email[edit]

Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-personalClickerClock (talk) 10:02, 27 December 2017 (UTC)

@ClickerClock done :) —Kazitor, pending 10:04, 27 December 2017 (UTC)
I sent you an email. —ClickerClock (talk) 10:08, 27 December 2017 (UTC)
Yeah, got the notification. Seems to be taking a while to arrive. Have patience :) —Kazitor, pending 10:09, 27 December 2017 (UTC)

Sent you a reply to your reply. —ClickerClock (talk) 13:39, 27 December 2017 (UTC)

Shouldn't you be asleep right now?[edit]

Work on the issue in the morning shall ya? —ClickerClock (talk) 13:29, 27 December 2017 (UTC)


To be fair, I am an evil (actual) twin of LeftyGreenMario and she promoted probably due to sibling bias, probably. The first message on my talk page hints that she already knew who I was beforehand. БaбyЛuigiOнФire🚓(T|C) 01:59, 29 December 2017 (UTC)

Oh no, not nepotism! What has this wiki come to? Onozomg.gifKazitor, pending 02:04, 29 December 2017 (UTC)


If someone makes a bad WIGO, comment it out instead of removing it, otherwise the next WIGO to be added will use the same poll number as the bad WIGO and start off with all its downvotes. Christopher (talk) 12:15, 30 December 2017 (UTC)

Oh, fair point. I probably should've figured that, thanks for telling me. I'll be sure to do that in future. —Kazitor, pending 12:21, 30 December 2017 (UTC)

European Union Times[edit]

More a fair comment on the body than vandalism per se. (talk) 11:06, 6 January 2018 (UTC)

I know it wasn't vandalism. That's why I undid it with an explanation rather than reverting it. I undid it because I don't think it was particularly funny, and as I said, it was too forced. —Kazitor, pending 11:25, 6 January 2018 (UTC)
There should be a category of 'apt tampering' to cover such cases - where the originator expects the change to elicit mild amusement/agreement before the change is reverted. Doing it several times would be vandalism. (talk) 12:52, 6 January 2018 (UTC)

Great WIGO idea[edit]

I like the flags :)-DιαμοπdDιςc1(talk) 03:52, 7 January 2018 (UTC)My f****** bad!-DιαμοπdDιςc1(talk) 20:02, 7 January 2018 (UTC)

@DiamondDisc1: Sorry to burst your bubble, but I proposed the idea. Kazitor generously created the template. By the way, thank you @Kazitor, for the template.—Hamburguesa con queso con un cara Spinning-Burger.gif (talkstalk) 04:03, 7 January 2018 (UTC)
@CheeseburgerFace Just the other day, someone gave Christopher credit for something I'd done, so now I'm fine. We just need to give you credit for something Cristopher's done now... And no problem with the templates, I was planning on doing that myself. Some regular expressions can go a long way :) —Kazitor, pending 04:09, 7 January 2018 (UTC)

Moderator election results[edit]

See the results here. Herr FüzzyCätPötätö (talk/stalk) 03:39, 20 January 2018 (UTC)

If you're bored[edit]

Would you mind doing me quite a large favour and running your election prototype with the December 2016 ballots (including the controversial votes)? If you're busy or don't want to that's completely fine. CowHouse (talk) 02:55, 25 January 2018 (UTC)

@CowHouse fortunately, writing it up in Python makes using new data quite trivial. It gave:
12 : FuzzyCatPotato
10 : Reverend Black Percy
8 : David Gerard
5 : Bongolian
4 : Applesauce
2 : Avengerofthe BoN
2 : Avengerofthe BoN
0 : Weaseloid
-3 : DiamondDisc1
-3 : DiamondDisc1
-4 : N7.Geth
-6 : Hipocrite
-8 : Pbfreespace3
-9 : CorruptUser
-10 : Rational1
Oh dear, looks like it sucks when it comes to users with the same scores. Alright, I'll see if I can sort this out. —Kazitor, pending 06:42, 25 January 2018 (UTC)
Also, keep in mind that this is using my variation, where one user appearing and not another is treated as no preference. —Kazitor, pending 06:51, 25 January 2018 (UTC)
Thanks, Kazitor. Do you mind recalibrating so that appearances are counted as preferred? Avengerofthe BoN's matchups should end up looking like this. CowHouse (talk) 06:54, 25 January 2018 (UTC)
I think your variation changes the results significantly. For instance, Applesauce and Avengerofthe BoN are placed much higher than they otherwise would be. CowHouse (talk) 07:13, 25 January 2018 (UTC)
Yeah, I'll get to that. It'll take a bit more effort, and I'm sure you understand that there are some things I'd rather do than simulate a system that might not even be implemented. Of course, there isn't that much I have to do. So, I'll give you the dreaded (at least, when I say) "soon". —Kazitor, pending 06:57, 25 January 2018 (UTC)
You have no obligation to do this and I'm sure you have better things to do. I wasn't sure how long or difficult it would be to recalibrate (I was hoping easy and quick). If I knew it wasn't easy and quick I wouldn't have asked. I definitely appreciate your help Th hug.gif CowHouse (talk) 07:13, 25 January 2018 (UTC)
Also, if you need help with anything let me know. I owe you a favour at this point. CowHouse (talk) 07:17, 25 January 2018 (UTC)
Nah, it's fine. Like I said, I did that because I needed something to do. That reason still applies. —Kazitor, pending 07:22, 25 January 2018 (UTC)

Thank you...[edit]

...for dispensing freedom and democracy over the horizon taking IP addresses out of the Vandal Bin. Nerd (talk) 23:35, 27 January 2018 (UTC)

It's far easier than removing pri was. Left hand on f3 and paste, right hand on mouse. The pages load faster, too. —Kazitor, pending 23:36, 27 January 2018 (UTC)
Only problem is I can't hide the entries from the logs. But, who checks the logs like they do with recent changes? —Kazitor, pending 23:38, 27 January 2018 (UTC)
Err... I am guilty of that sin. Comrade GC (talk) 23:43, 27 January 2018 (UTC)
Anyone who vandal bins is, really. How were we supposed to know the auto-binning was permanent? Once I'm done (which hopefully won't take too long), I'll consider making a pull request to prevent IPs from ever being binned, automatically or manually. —Kazitor, pending 23:45, 27 January 2018 (UTC)
Oh whoops, completely misunderstood you. You were referring to checking the logs, weren't you? —Kazitor, pending 21:38, 28 January 2018 (UTC)

I Suppose[edit]

In addition to blocking the spammer I'm supposed to delete the page. Instead of marking as patrolled, what am I supposed to do? — Unsigned, by: Antigem / talk / contribs 11:44, 7 February 2018 (UTC)

@Antigem You said you use a mobile, right? This might not work there, but Top menu (where it says read, edit, etc.) -> More -> Vaporise. Set reason to spam. And please don't permaban IPs. —Kazitor, pending 04:12, 8 February 2018 (UTC)
Yeah, figured I screwed something up there along the way, that's why I made sure to point out I was getting in over my head. I'll review the guide before doing that again. I do have the Vaporise option. However, with the mobile I don't have all options. For example I can't rate articles.Antigem (talk) 11:11, 8 February 2018 (UTC)


Zup. Sorry for the vague description. Found a link for a Wikipedia page with CC 3.0 license and paraphrased the most of it. (øndergaard) Interestingly, he rushed to have his followers spam it to death and then get it deleted.

No plagiarism here. Revert? — Unsigned, by: WillObeyForCookies / talk / contribs

@WillObeyForCookies Not sure what you're asking, because I already reverted it. Feel free to rework it into something of your own, but just don't copy and paste. —Kazitor, pending 11:36, 14 February 2018 (UTC)
@Kazitor Sorry for being unclear. I meant revert the revert, as it's not copy/paste, even though my comment definitely could be read that way. The original content was CC 3.0 license, not published anywhere, and reworked before posted here + a bit completely new content. I might give it a go some time in the future if more rewriting is needed. - WillObeyForCookies (talk) 11:54, 14 February 2018 (UTC)
@WillObeyForCookies Ah, right, sounds fine. I wasn't particularly successful finding where that information had come from in the first place, like I said I reverted because of your summary. Feel free to put it back if you did change the info significantly. —Kazitor, pending 21:53, 14 February 2018 (UTC)


I doubt three months will be enough, this guy’s been going since at least early 2017. Christopher (talk) 15:38, 11 March 2018 (UTC)

@Christopher I had just looked at the recent history of that article and it looked to me like they'd only been at it for about three months, so I thought another three would be sufficient. Obviously they've been at it for longer, but the time can be adjusted further if they continue to go at it. Thanks for bringing that to my attention though. —Kazitor, pending 03:24, 12 March 2018 (UTC)

My sandbox page[edit]

Hey! Thanks for keeping an eye on my article and undoing that edit, but I did actually give approval (in another place) for that user to edit. Apologies for not making that clear, but thank you for your vigilance. Gremlins (talk) 10:03, 17 March 2018 (UTC)

Ah, sorry. I was just looking at the comment up the top, hope it didn't put that user off. —Kazitor, pending 10:49, 17 March 2018 (UTC)

Lomax Vandalizing[edit]

Hey, bud is there any way to delete a revision that that troll pulled on my user page? It's annoying to see it in my revision history.リムルテンペストRimuru Slime.png 02:20, 18 March 2018 (UTC)

@Rimuru Tempest as a sysop, you can do it yourself: view the diff (i.e. the "prev" link, this), next to the edit summary it says "(change visibility)", go there and check the boxes corresponding to what you want hidden. Hope that helps :) —Kazitor, pending 02:57, 18 March 2018 (UTC)
Thx for the help.Řïmũŗû ŢèmpéŝţRimuru Slime.png 03:05, 18 March 2018 (UTC)
Lol, seems like I got finally something to waste some of my extra time on, making sure Lomax doesn't try anything funny. He seems to be triggered due to someone from RationalWiki posting on his site (from what he stated, he could have just set it up to find a reason to attack this site.)King RimuruRimuru Slime.png 02:47, 23 March 2018 (UTC)
You very rudely reverted one of his edits before I could. How can I boost my edit count now? —Kazitor, pending 02:53, 23 March 2018 (UTC)
Sorry, lol, ill let you do it next time then XD.Rimuru Da NinjaRimuru Slime.png 02:55, 23 March 2018 (UTC)
I think you made up for it by prompting these talk page comments. That's two edits minus one missed reversion. All good :P —Kazitor, pending 03:17, 23 March 2018 (UTC)

Automatic spam-protection issue[edit]

Hi Kazitor, I apologize if this isn't your area, but the list said you were in some Technical List, so I'm taking a shot in the dark.

I have a small issue with what appears to be a spam filter. It started when I was going to make some grammatical corrections in the Skinheads article, but it was blocked automatically as harmful. At first I though this because I edited the word 'Nazi' a bunch, and went to the Technical Support page to ask about my problem there, but it was also blocked as harmful. It mentioned something about a 'abd filter' that I violated, which I searched up but the only result I could find was that crazy guy from a few months back on a bunch of unrelated talk pages complaining about stuff. This is slightly confusing, as although I am far from active, I have edited things before with only minor obstacles. As I am now out of options, I take it up with you, hoping you have an answer.

Thanks in advance, JberkOS (talk) 03:34, 27 March 2018 (UTC)

@WhiteWolf Apologies for your troubles. I didn't write the abd filter, but it looks like it will block an edit based on the content of the entire page, not just what's added. I've made you autopatrolled, so the filters shouldn't bother you further. I'll see if I can improve the filters. —Kazitor, pending 05:18, 27 March 2018 (UTC)

That appears to have worked, as I've done my edits without incident. Thank you very much @Kazitor, you've been a great help! JberkOS (talk) 00:18, 28 March 2018 (UTC)

1999 category[edit]

Hey! Do you know the Category:Living people. Could you create Category:1999 births? That was the year that I was born. It would make sense. Category:1999 births and Category:Living people. And could you add above Category:Living people on my page Category;1999 births? Thank you! Athena (talk) 09:19, 29 March 2018 (UTC)

@Athena To add the category to your page, just put [[Category:1999 births]] somewhere on it, usually at the very end. Then down the bottom of the page it'll say you're in that category, just go there and type something to remove the red and make the category official. —Kazitor, pending 09:38, 29 March 2018 (UTC)
Oh, also, Category:Living people is meant to be used for articles. I'd remove it from your page if I were you. —Kazitor, pending 09:40, 29 March 2018 (UTC)

@User talk:Kazitor I removed Category:Living people and replaced Category:1999 births. Could you create it? I don't want to RISK being blocked or the Category:1999 births being deleted! Athena (talk) 10:32, 29 March 2018 (UTC)

@Athena You definitely won't be blocked for creating it. If it is deleted, it won't be because you made it; that just means it wasn't meant to be (I don't see why it would be deleted though, there's no problem with having it). Also, pinging works by writing {{ping|username}}, not by typing the @ symbol. —Kazitor, pending 11:26, 29 March 2018 (UTC)

Winner of the Tea Short Story Thing[edit]

1 Short Story ¶
awarded to

Better late than never! You share the award with: Spriggina. —ClickerClock (talk) 06:56, 31 March 2018 (UTC)

Biography spammer that slipped through[edit]

JeannieCarrell slipped through.—Hamburguesa con queso con un cara Spinning-Burger.gif (talkstalk) 19:38, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for the notice. That spammer looks completely unlike any other, so it might not be worth changing anything. We'll see. —Kazitor, pending 21:59, 1 April 2018 (UTC)
ZSKLeonard slipped through.—Hamburguesa con queso con un cara Spinning-Burger.gif (talkstalk) 03:31, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
@CheeseburgerFace looks like what's happening there is that the user account was above a certain age, so didn't trigger the filter. I'm not sure if that needs to be changed. —Kazitor, pending 05:24, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
MDWReyes857462 slipped through.—Hamburguesa con queso con un cara Spinning-Burger.gif (talkstalk) 20:49, 12 April 2018 (UTC)
@CheeseburgerFace There's no way we could block a page like that without affecting honest users. How about you just inform me of spam that is like most of the other spam? Thanks. —Kazitor, pending 22:04, 12 April 2018 (UTC)


Will the new bot work with the old Archivist template or will we have to set up a new one? ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 03:10, 19 April 2018 (UTC)

Same talkpage/pibot templates, as I was doing before registering it. —Kazitor, pending 03:11, 19 April 2018 (UTC)
Thank you, @Kazitor! Nerd (talk) 03:27, 19 April 2018 (UTC)

Batshit be gone[edit]

I have just deleted the Batshit crazy category. I hope that you can now use your technical magic to remove it from all the pages. if not, I'll probably spend most of the rest of the year removing it from every page one at a time. Spud (talk) 13:13, 26 April 2018 (UTC)

See what I can do. If not, I can help do it manually just like with pri... —Kazitor, pending 21:30, 26 April 2018 (UTC)

What kind of video games do you play?[edit]

Just curious. I'm actually a huge fan of Minecraft. Banned from Wikipedia (talk) 13:01, 27 April 2018 (UTC)

If you actually care, and your mention of minecraft makes me doubt that sincerely, this is a somewhat extensive list. I guess you can add Mirror's Edge to that. —Kazitor, pending 22:35, 27 April 2018 (UTC)

Insufferable assholes[edit]

Hi Kazitor, I closed this AfD as delete as it was a unanimous 7 against 0. I realized though that I overlooked the category still needing to be removed from the 300-odd pages. Do you have the means to do that automatically like with Batshit crazy? Thanks, --Yisfidri (talk) 02:42, 5 May 2018 (UTC)

@Yisfidri I'd already started by the time you wrote that, but was in bot mode so I couldn't respond (well, shouldn't have responded). Anyway, it's all done now. —Kazitor, pending 03:39, 5 May 2018 (UTC)
Great work! You were ahead of me.--Yisfidri (talk) 04:38, 5 May 2018 (UTC)

Bitcoin spam.[edit]

Recently a new type of spam has cropped up urging readers to call "1800-571-6109". Being a dutiful editor I used a search engine to look it up and low and behold, we're being spammed by bitcoiners. Anyhow, could you set up an edit filter to prevent this precise phone number from being entered? ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 00:08, 26 May 2018 (UTC)

So "Coinbase" didn't tip you off? Anyway, from looking through the logs it seems it was all a few hours ago and from one user. But I'll take care of it if the problem re-emerges :) —Kazitor, pending 02:00, 26 May 2018 (UTC)
There was another one a few days ago, and it could a have been spam for premium currency (special in-game currency bought using real money), which I have encounted in several games I play. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 02:03, 26 May 2018 (UTC)
@GrammarCommie "customer care number" now triggers. —Kazitor, pending 02:09, 26 May 2018 (UTC)


Just wanted to say thanks again for getting that running! Cømяade FυzzчCαтPøтαтø (talk/stalk) 13:12, 8 June 2018 (UTC)

No problem, we needed it and it wasn't hard. —Kazitor, pending 23:22, 8 June 2018 (UTC)

I invited you on Steam[edit]

I saw you also Kerbal and I couldn't stop clicking. I did hit the Mun one time, after about 200 launches, but the hours didn't get logged because I didn't have home internet that year.

Good thing the IRL earth is flat anyway, otherwise I might be embarrassed about something like that. GoshDarn (talk) 06:46, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

@GoshDarn Oh, that was you. Feel free to send it again, I can't seem to find you. —Kazitor, pending 06:58, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
Never mind, spammed the back button until I found it again. —Kazitor, pending 07:01, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
You have Steam? ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 21:08, 21 June 2018 (UTC)
@GrammarCommie link's on my profile, under "More about me." I actually bothered to write some stuff a few weeks ago. —Kazitor, pending 03:10, 22 June 2018 (UTC)
I saw and sent you an invite. You'll be able to spot me quickly, I use the same initals there as I do here. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 03:30, 22 June 2018 (UTC)

Re:Your recent demotion to RWRW[edit]

Do not defy the consensus in rejecting sysop status for RWRW. Thanks. --It's-a me, Lgm sigpic.png LeftyGreenMario! 01:03, 24 June 2018 (UTC)

I have blocked you temporarily - feel free to unblock. — Saj 01:09, 24 June 2018 (UTC)


A case involving you has been raised at the Chicken Coop. Feel free to comment. — Saj 01:43, 24 June 2018 (UTC)

Just in Case[edit]

Rainbow trout transparent.png Whack!
You've been whacked with a wet trout.

Don't take this too seriously. Somebody just wants to let you know you did something silly.

Regardless of my belief that RWRW should be demoted, going against mob consesnsus was quite silly. RoninMacbeth (talk) 03:20, 24 June 2018 (UTC)
Yeah, like I said I wasn't thinking about that at all. Oh well. —Kazitor, pending 03:21, 24 June 2018 (UTC)

Test 3[edit]

Signed properly. —Kazitor, pending 10:19, 1 July 2018 (UTC)

Friend Request[edit]

FA has sent you a friend request.

  • Confirm friend request

  • Delete friend request

Only accept friend requests from people you know — Unsigned, by: Eeky Geek / talk / contribs 14:50, 8 July 2018 (UTC)

Hashing != encryption[edit]

Re: your userpageWhile both are cryptography, hashing isn't encryption. Encryption is reversible by design. Hashes are designed to be one way.Hamburguesa con queso con un cara Spinning-Burger.gif (talkstalk) 00:05, 10 July 2018 (UTC)

@CheeseburgerFace Had a feeling it might not have been correct. (But hey, who's to say there isn't some private key that'll magically reverse it? You don't know.) But thanks, I'd never actually bothered to find out what technicality makes encryption special (though I knew what a hash is). Learn something every day :) —Kazitor, pending 00:19, 10 July 2018 (UTC)

u r[edit]

Ur jealous of my friendship with GrammarCommie and LefyGreenMario — Unsigned, by: FA, GC and LGM / talk / contribs 13:10, 12 July 2018 (UTC)


I refreshed the theme for my userpage. I'm now an A.I invented by Google. I am not evil. beep boopClickerClock💾 talk.txt 03:24, 14 July 2018 (UTC)

occupies quantum superposition of terrified and cautiousKazitor, pending 03:33, 14 July 2018 (UTC)
@ClickerClock huh, I have the "Hack" font installed but it only displays when the CSS is set to "hack" rather than "hackregular". Are these different fonts, or do you have it installed under a different name, or...? Maybe just add "hack" to that list so it displays properly. —Kazitor, pending 03:36, 14 July 2018 (UTC)
I don't have "Hack" installed, I was just guessing for the proper name for it to show up. Thanks for telling me. I'll fix it. I'm more of a Source Code Pro person. —ClickerClock💾 talk.txt 03:43, 14 July 2018 (UTC)
Wait I do have "Hack" installed, I just forgot about it. —ClickerClock💾 talk.txt 03:44, 14 July 2018 (UTC)
No problem :) Maybe I'll check out Source Code Pro; currently I use Fira Code because of the fancy ligatures. —Kazitor, pending 03:45, 14 July 2018 (UTC)


Just a question, mate. What's wrong with redirects? Nerd (talk) 01:22, 14 July 2018 (UTC)

@Nerd My main objection is that pages that are technically in your history don't display as such. But also, when hovering over the link, it might not be apparent what's going to happen. —Kazitor, pending 03:09, 14 July 2018 (UTC)
Could you please explain exactly what you mean by, "pages that are technically in your history don't display as such"? Nerd (talk) 13:29, 14 July 2018 (UTC)
@Nerd Links to pages in your history get the :visited pseudo-class, which makes them appear a darker blue. If the link is to a redirect to a page you have visited, but you haven't visited the redirect, the browser doesn't know that so it appears light blue. But it's also generally about obscuring what will happen; when you hover over the link it says something that it doesn't go to.— Unsigned, by: Kazitor / talk / contribs
Ah, I see. Thank you! Nerd (talk) 00:13, 15 July 2018 (UTC)


That's beautiful, mate! Thank you for sharing. Speaking of hydrogen, excess heat Generation IV nuclear reactors could be used to produce hydrogen fuel cells. Their temperatures, hot enough to melt lead, is one of the reason why they are more efficient than their predecessors. I will update our article on nuclear power soon. Nerd (talk) 01:31, 18 July 2018 (UTC)

It was something that was sent to me and I thought seemed like the sort of thing that belongs on WIGO. I really do hope the near future has enough of a push against fossil fuels to prompt more research into sustainable sources and lead to its widespread usage. Until then... —Kazitor, pending 01:39, 18 July 2018 (UTC)
I'm not too worried. Things tend to work out in the long run. People everywhere are becoming more and more environmentally aware. But of course, actually progress is made by actions, not words. Signing international agreements, declaring ambitious goals, or giving inspiring speeches do not really mean much. (Oh, and thank you for removing DJT. I'm getting sick and tired of seeing that guy everywhere, if you know what I mean.) Nerd (talk) 13:26, 18 July 2018 (UTC)
I was trying to work out what you meant, so I looked at my recent edits and had a moment of realisation. I feel exactly the same way, it's just boring really. —Kazitor Kazitor sig pic.png 22:26, 18 July 2018 (UTC)

Derren Brown stooges[edit]

Is the section on Derren Brown about stooges sarcastic? Hard to tell sometimes... — Unsigned, by: / talk

It's not. —Kazitor Kazitor sig pic.png 00:35, 21 July 2018 (UTC)

Counting 'whatsit'[edit]

As the 2 millionth edit has just been made - do the 3 million equivalent (and possibly 10k pages). Could French WP's '2 million strap' be borrowed for the occasion? Anna Livia (talk) 23:04, 22 July 2018 (UTC)

Anna Livia (talk) 23:04, 22 July 2018 (UTC)

Edit filter[edit]

We need an edit filter to stop numbers in titles. Maybe also the word 'Buy'. Just for future reference and because I can't see why these would be needed in normal editing. — Dysk (contribs) 11:04, 7 August 2018 (UTC)

If you give me tech rights I'll happily manage the edit filters... Spammer Mastermind (talk) 11:05, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
Lmao if you can copy/paste the required filter code here and turn into an awesome editor then maybe? — Dysk (contribs) 11:07, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
No. I will shut down all the filters and open the floodgates to hordes of spam! Spammer Mastermind (talk) 11:08, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
I guess that disqualifies you! — Dysk (contribs) 11:10, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
Numbers seem innocent enough. I might do "buy" because I can't imagine any proper titles either. —Kazitor Kazitor sig pic.png 11:14, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
It won't work. We spammers will always evolve =. You cannot beat us. Spammer Mastermind (talk) 11:18, 7 August 2018 (UTC)

@Spammer Mastermind Here's the filter condition:

edit_type == "edit_spam"
&& humour_content < 3
&& username != "Kazitor" /* allow subversive spam from trusted user */

Go crazy! —Kazitor Kazitor sig pic.png 11:20, 7 August 2018 (UTC)

Heh. — Dysk (contribs) 11:22, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
The edit filter doesn't do sysops? — Dysk (contribs) 11:38, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
Shush, we don't care for your expertise here. Spammer Mastermind is going to fix it up for us! —Kazitor Kazitor sig pic.png 11:52, 7 August 2018 (UTC)