User talk:Sid

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I sent you an email[edit]

but you ignored it. That hurts dude. Nutty Roux (talk) 23:07, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

Ah, apologies. Hotmail decided to junk it (though it didn't junk the other RW mails, weird). --Sid (talk) 12:04, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

My length of time here[edit]

It's remarks like this which influence how long I'm going to stick around. --Uncle Ed bug me 19:09, 30 July 2010 (UTC)


Just a bump to remind you of your nomination for the RationalWiki Foundation board of trustees. You can accept or reject your nomination here. On January 10th, nominations close if you have not signaled acceptance by that point it will be treated as a rejection. Tmtoulouse (talk) 16:19, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

Help a brother out...[edit]

My knowledge in scripts is zilch. How do you make use of the Ken filter? SJ Debaser 12:31, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

Never mind, I've got it working, found your instructions in a WIGOCP archive. Thanks a lot. SJ Debaser 12:40, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

What / Uhhh[edit]

Are you doing? ТyTalk. 19:52, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

Can I ask what you're doing? ThunderkatzHo! 19:52, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

[[%PAGE%¦%TITLE%]] had appeared in the Wanted Pages list. A user tried to create it, but doing so made the wiki flail helplessly since those are Magic Words for templates. I checked which pages linked to it, figured that DPL had somehow hiccuped and just did a null edit to force it to re-evaluate the code (or whatever DPL does in the background), thus solving the odd linking and removing the broken page from the Wanted List. --Sid (talk) 19:55, 5 April 2011 (UTC)
Ok, that makes sense. Have you also tried just saving the page as is w/o actually making an edit? Sometimes that's enough for the code to reset itself. ThunderkatzHo! 19:57, 5 April 2011 (UTC)
Hm, hadn't occured to me. I also realized in the end that just appending a blank space at the very end of the article does an actual null edit that doesn't show up in the logs. My wiki-fu's a bit rusty in those details, obviously. XD --Sid (talk) 20:00, 5 April 2011 (UTC)
I just nuked it. ТyTalk. 20:01, 5 April 2011 (UTC)
%PAGE%¦%TITLE% registered as a bad request for me. Bloody computers. Scarlet A.pngpathetic 20:03, 5 April 2011 (UTC)
Well, they're reserved fill-in words for the wiki, so no wonder it broke stuff. I also removed [[%PAGE%]] from the list now. Thunderkatz was right - just re-saving without editing also fixes it. --Sid (talk) 20:04, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

Thanks Sid[edit]

Much better. If I can think of a way to make it more humourous, I might chime in. Otherwise it looks pretty good. nobsdon't bother me 12:49, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

Still, it's always nice to be axed[edit]

As above.

What I'm not liking is the # of self nominations.

16:13, 16 May 2011 (UTC) C®ackeЯ

Template edits[edit]

Hi Sid, just wanted to say thankyou for fixing the comment templates on the CP World History page. I couldn't figure out how they worked. Thanks!!--Ironclad (talk) 23:40, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

No prob. :) --Sid (talk) 11:34, 25 June 2011 (UTC)


Your unblocked. Nütze die Nacht dir zum Heil! nobsViva la Revolución! 01:49, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

*spit-take* Well, shit, this may be interesting. *taps chin* But thank you for the unblock, no matter what happens from here! --Sid (talk) 09:57, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

Ed Poor RfArb[edit]

I've been reviwing Ed Poor's two Arbitration cases [1][2] (and other support IRC materials) (coincidentally, his first case and my case were concluded on the very same day, meaning I'm familiar with the sam e Arbs and their thinking at the that same time; also, some familiar names cross over between bothcases). RobSmithI am a victim of anonymous CP trolls 19:56, 17 August 2011 (UTC)

Uh... okay? --Sid (talk) 10:56, 18 August 2011 (UTC)
If we're to believe the Arbs, Ed is a second cousin of Ken, misuse of sysop tools, out of process deletions, etc. Not really a guy who may be amenable to sysop accountability & reform.
On another subject, how do you feel about collaborating on a chronicle of the CP/RW war? It would be first person, eyewitness, original research, definitive, NPOV. RobSmithI am a victim of anonymous CP trolls 23:38, 19 August 2011 (UTC)
Oh yes, im sure it will be totaly NPOV from you rob. you know, your not at all mad or sore or anything against andy or the other Sysops for what happended to you. And I dont think Sid cares about the arby nonsense you mentioned.--Mikalos209 (talk) 23:41, 19 August 2011 (UTC)
Mikalos, why do you keep stalking Rob to tell him he's sore over CP?--User:Brxbrx/sig 00:12, 20 August 2011 (UTC)
Boredom. --Mikalos209 (talk) 00:13, 20 August 2011 (UTC)
Rob, why did you need to look at ancient ArbCom cases to realize this? Ed is an Old Earth Creationist and a Unification Church member on a site that pretty much states as fact that Old Earth Creationism is wrong and that any religious branch that does not 100% match Andy's personal views is wrong, too. In other words, Ed is a happy man on a website that claims that two of his core stances are wrong (and thus bad). Ask yourself why that is so. The answer is power. Ed's desire for power overshadows his principles. He stands by and smiles while Andy finds more and more Counterexamples to an Old Earth and huggles his banhammer. Did you honestly think that Ed was ever on your side or that he would have supported any reform that includes accountability?
Or if you do want to look at the past to come to your conclusions, you could have looked at his CP behavior. Things like his actions on cp:Internet Explorer are hardly news - Ed has been crippling articles all the time. And he has been assigning Writing Plans. And and and.
So yes, Ed is most definitely not someone who would agree to sysop accountability, and his reforms would mainly focus on editorial issues since he still would like to be able to present his views on the subjects where he is "wrong" according to CP. To accomplish that, he would even side with the liberals he loves to demonize the rest of the time. Think about that for a while, and you will realize that Ed is on his own side - a side which occasionally happens to overlap with yours or ours.
But if you really want to chat about ancient WP history, there are others who kept better track of Ed on WP. I can't readily think of names, but some of the oldtimers here should know more. If in doubt, poke Trent?
Speaking of my reluctance to relive the past: You'll get a simple "Meh" from me re: CP/RW war. In my eyes, there was little that would live up to such a strong name, and I was barely involved those parts since I tended to keep out of site politics.
And looking at the bigger picture:
I understand your current mood, so I'm not going to tell you that you're a moron or anything, but if you want my honest advice, take a few days or even weeks off (don't visit CP, RW, WP, and whatever else would remind you of this mess) to clear your head. In time you will realize that CP is a completely inconsequential troll site, and you might find peace and stop caring.
Look at me; I've been watching those morons for years now. And every now and then, a part of me goes all "AGH! IDIOTS! I NEED TO MAKE YOU SEE THE LIGHT! I SHALL WRITE A LENGTHY ESSAY DETAILING EVERYTHING THAT IS WRONG WITH CP!" - but then I realize that it wouldn't change anything and that I would simply waste my time and energy on attempting to teach people who refuse to learn. So I just shrug it off. CP has become my entertainment, not my mission. I stay because they are fun to watch, nothing more. If you can find this sort of peace, I am certain you will be welcomed with open arms. But if you can't watch without detaching yourself, you should maybe move on and start from scratch on another project.
I'm not sending you away, but simply offering some friendly advice from one frustrated idealist to another. --Sid (talk) 00:30, 20 August 2011 (UTC)
Ed says he's not a Creationist, the dispute is over the meaning of NPOV (IOW, advocating for NPOV on a controversial subject is not necessarily pushing POV, which I agree with), but he's been accused of ignoring consensus and abusing sysop tools (which means he fits in nicely at CP).
It would be a nice gift to posterity to make a one page NPOV narrative of the CP/RW war. I still hope to see it someday.
Somepeople say I should have resigned, and I did offer my resignation at one point, but going down in a hail of bullets has its advantages, too. I'm glad I'm put of there, the atmosphere is just to suffocating. RobSmithI am a victim of anonymous CP trolls 20:53, 20 August 2011 (UTC)
I must say I find it curious and slightly amusing that Rob is shocked at what CP has become. Forgetting of course it has always been this way and it's only now that Rob is on the receiving end. I have no sympathy. Aceof SpadesSilverbrain.png 21:11, 20 August 2011 (UTC)
Rob, I understand your position re: going down fighting, and while I don't fully endorse it, I can definitely see the potential strategic appeal. And if I had to guess, I'd say that Ed is playing a semantics game there: "ID is not (Young Earth) Creationism!". Compare his WP statement with thisimg admission: "[Y]ou should know that I support Intelligent Design (as a scientific critique of naturalistic evolution) and that I am an Old Earth creationist." --Sid (talk) 21:22, 20 August 2011 (UTC)


I saw a reference you made to your sub page, so I added a few capture links to links that were actually working. Unfortunately I have trouble accessing CP on a usual day (always times out for some reason, or my IP address comes up with a 403 error) but I added as many as I could while it was working. άλφαTalk 17:20, 29 August 2011 (UTC)

Wow, that's awesome, thanks! :) --Sid (talk) 18:41, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
Got a few more before the inevitable timeouts; as you mentioned, some of the links (especially on Karajou's talk page) are broken, but since I was 403'd for months on end, adding capture tags became sort of an unhealthy obsession of mine. άλφαTalk 01:27, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
That's all of the ones possible. Enjoy! άλφαTalk 23:27, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
Thanks a lot, I appreciate it. :) --Sid (talk) 10:46, 3 September 2011 (UTC)


Yeah, hi Sid! It's been ages - about two years, actually - since I came here, but I thought it would be good to get back to the place, and begin regurgitating forth loads of stuff about identity and politics. From tutorial to brain to page. So much has changed, though! Lots of people gone from the wiki (especially the departed :( ), lots of new faces, new interfaces all over the place. How are things with you? --Interpreteddestroy all editors

Yeah, it's been quite a ride. I never really was a major Community Guy, so it's all just a stream of names for me. Though yes, people dying is still a punch to the gut. =(
For me, things have been fairly calm. I lost most of my quasi-idealistic "Arrr, I'm so angry that Andy is wasting his last chances of turning the ship around!" drive over time, so snark and trainwreck-watching fascination took over. CP became a constant source of entertainment for me, and while I don't WIGO much anymore, I still hang out to point and laugh. Not too much free time to do more than that, unfortunately. =/
Ah well. Here's hoping you stay around for a while! I always enjoy seeing oldschool members back here! :) --Sid (talk) 22:49, 1 November 2011 (UTC)

Atheistic 15 Questions[edit]

Hi Sid,

I saw on the WIGO talk page you wondered if anyone had created an Atheistic 15 questions. Wonder no further!


--Sasayaki (talk) 13:56, 30 November 2011 (UTC)

Freud comic[edit]

This is the only place I've found it. I don't know where I got it from or heard about it in the first place, though. X Stickman (talk) 15:59, 9 December 2011 (UTC)

I see, thanks a bunch! :) --Sid (talk) 17:46, 9 December 2011 (UTC)
Nice to see you back around this cesspool! ħumanUser talk:Human 04:31, 7 August 2013 (UTC)