RationalWiki:Articles for deletion/Collectivism

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Delete

1. This article is poorly sourced, largely lacking in-depth content, is a piss-poor explanation of collectivism (it's been argued, for example, that capitalism is collectivist as capitalism is driven through collective labor producing for capital (notice how the unemployed are stigmatized for "not being productive") even if one disagrees with this argument, it merits inclusion), this article doesn't include analysis of why socialism castigates the bourgeoisie, or why secular humanists castigate fundamentalists et cetera. This article definitely merits inclusion into mainspace because it is a fundamental piece of political science, but as it stands right now it's hot garbage. Carthage (talk) 16:42, 26 October 2023 (UTC)
2. The examples list is just... terrible. Also, why is the communism template in the article? GeeJayK^{Where all evil dwells} _{Where every lie is true} 17:28, 26 October 2023 (UTC)

   I noticed that too. I included the argument about capitalism being collectivist as a response to that. Carthage (talk) 17:36, 26 October 2023 (UTC)

Keep

1. I mean it is a really shoddy stub of an article, but on a topic which I think needs to be on RW. So no nuking, improvement instead [I mean, wouldn't be hard, would it?]. KarmaPolice (talk) 20:04, 2 November 2023 (UTC)

Merge/redirect

1. Not too good, and its past versions indicate it's never been good. Nuke it. Redirect to political spectrum to pick up the slack for all the articles that link to it. Collectivism is a missional political term and if someone wants to make a new version of the page later that door would be open. Chillpilled (talk) 18:24, 26 October 2023 (UTC)
2. As per Chillpilled. Bongolian (talk) 19:19, 26 October 2023 (UTC)
3. Make a new draft instead? It feels like a stub and I think this one could be bigger and better written. It's as if someone just tried to make an article, but put several things out of order aswell. Especially with the quotes which are always on top from other articles I've seen. Arcadium Trancefer (talk) 15:20, 31 October 2023 (UTC)
4. Redirect to political spectrum, and add content from this article into there. Andrew5 mobile (talk) 21:42, 2 November 2023 (UTC)

Goat

• Redirecting to political spectrum would be awkward so long as the page doesn't say anything about collectivism. 𝒮𝑒𝓇𝑒𝓃𝑒 ^talk 14:15, 27 October 2023 (UTC)

I just don't know where else to redirect. One of the popular political compasses uses a collectivist/individualist axis, so. Chillpilled (talk) 14:17, 27 October 2023 (UTC)