Talk:Boris Johnson

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Johnson and Johnson

Does the Lyndon Johnson 'tent/Hoover' quote work for Boris and Dominic Cummings (going by the latter's current utterances)? Anna Livia (talk) 19:55, 26 May 2021 (UTC)

not trump

can we please stop calling boris the 'british trump' or any other phrasing that insists the two are in any way alike. they are unlike each other in everyway that it matters, in style and in whatever passes as substance for johnson the only thing that they share is that they are both gobshites, a trait almost universal amongst politicians.

not understanding who the prick is and how to deal with him wont see him moving out of number 10 anytime soon. AMassiveGay (talk) 09:49, 12 June 2021 (UTC)

I agree with you. Honestly, I don't think they have much in common except for their body shape. Unlike Trump, Prime Minister Boris Johnson is never far-right and has a very different political orientation. --Umaru16 (talk) 06:53, 20 January 2022 (UTC)

Of course, I see Boris Johnson negatively. He is right-wing socially conservative and discriminatory a politician. However, honestly, I have never seen a blatant extreme right tendency like Donald Trump.--Umaru16 (talk)

hes not even that. hes a vacuous prick without a single idea in his head. its his cabinet that are the problem, many of them who think thatcher was a wet. hes got the full set of the britannia unchained cunts for example 08:10, 20 January 2022 (UTC)

The main reason Boris Johnson is dubbed the "British Trump" is probably because Trump dubbed Johnson the British Trump. And I won't say they are "unlike each other in everyway that matters". As this Guardian article notes, they are both boorish loudmouths that can't manage administrations very well and thus have administrations characterized by chaos. Also, they are similar in that they both a product of an elite class yet due to reasons are oddly worshiped by the rubes. The elite class they came from (Ivy League educated son of New York real estate mogul vs. Eton educated son of politicians) is certainly very different, and Trump is much, much more populist and racist than Johnson. And Trump is much, much more an authoritarian wannabe prick. Finally, Johnson is certainly ideologically less of the one-note dummy that Trump is. Johnson reportedly works very well with Joe Biden these days. Could you imagine Trump doing the same? Absolutely not. So, for sure Johnson is not the "British Trump" Trump thinks he is. But there are a few similarities in style. PanGalacticGargleBlaster (talk) 13:18, 20 January 2022 (UTC)

And when BoJo leaves office he will go on 'the megabucks exPM-speaker tour circuit and board member' and not claim the election was stolen from him. Anna Livia (talk) 13:29, 20 January 2022 (UTC)

the real reason for calling him the british trump is laziness. everyone we dont like is x's trump, with no rationale othyer than we dont like them. AMassiveGay (talk) 13:46, 20 January 2022 (UTC)

uk prime minister and us president are also massively different beasts AMassiveGay (talk) 13:49, 20 January 2022 (UTC)

I'm guessing there also was a little bit of a hangover of key votes (2016 Trump election and 2016 Brexit vote) which was seen as part of a "populism wave" meme to help prime some media in this direction, even though the forces behind Brexit and Trump also are different. The lay media can be pretty lazy sometimes (like the lazy trend of appending "gate" to every frickin' government scandal because Watergate was a thing. "Partygate" for the recent Johnson mess? Sheesh.) But TBH, I have seen much less of the "British Trump" angle in articles since the Capitol riot showed exactly how much of an authoritarian prick Trump is. PanGalacticGargleBlaster (talk) 14:06, 20 January 2022 (UTC)

inaccurate, unfunny, and mess

i might pick at this further to reflect reality and refocus it a little AMassiveGay (talk) 10:48, 12 June 2021 (UTC)

categories

justify them. in the article. in reality. dont just reflexively revert, revert, revert. AMassiveGay (talk) 21:27, 11 February 2022 (UTC)

and stop making me defend this prick. AMassiveGay (talk) 21:28, 11 February 2022 (UTC)

and lets not pretend the article as it is, isnt mostly spurious wank AMassiveGay (talk) 21:30, 11 February 2022 (UTC)

I mean, there is a "bigotry" section with some sexist, homophobics and racists remarks. GeeJayK (talk) 21:32, 11 February 2022 (UTC)

like i said, the article mostly is spurious wank. guess what im gonna go remove from the article right now AMassiveGay (talk) 21:37, 11 February 2022 (UTC)

That's some fine whitewashing you are doing, what the fuck? PanGalacticGargleBlaster (talk) 21:47, 11 February 2022 (UTC)

dont give me that bullshit. 3 instances virtually context free of him saying bad words? does that warrant section titled bigotry? no it does not. does it warrant this section placed before all else? no it does not. its worthless dross and nothing more. whitewashing? fuck off with that shit.

@Plutocow does 'taking it to the talk page' normally involve blocking a user? go fuck yourself and justify your reverts like a grown up. AMassiveGay (talk) 22:01, 11 February 2022 (UTC)

and stop making me defend this prick by constantly posting utter dogshit. AMassiveGay (talk) 22:02, 11 February 2022 (UTC)

If I called you a "tank topped bumboy", what would you call me? A saint?

(Greater context would be great, of course. The Daily Telegraph is paywalled, but I actually find the little snippet of the original article he originally said this in (courtesy of PinkNews), frankly, more offensive for its boorish snobbish behavior, its elitist puffery, inane random historical references and its use of outdated stereotypes in using the Ministry of Sound. What, Boris thought raves were all gay in 1998?)

At any rate, Boris has said some nasty things over the years and you are defending the prick by eliminating all mentions of the nasty things he has said, whether you know it or not. PanGalacticGargleBlaster (talk) 22:18, 11 February 2022 (UTC)

you think i havent been called a bumboy? removal of this section does not eliminate the shit he has said and done. it just removes undue weight to a meaningless asides (some it is even mentioned elsewhere). there is plenty to take johnson to task for that has some actual meat over getting all touchy over what amounts to some colourful language from a public schoolboy AMassiveGay (talk) 22:26, 11 February 2022 (UTC)

Well, we'll see what others think.

Personally, listicles aren't great as we all know. So I would easily support a rewrite. Say, to include a small sentence as part of an exploration of his Telegraph years, something currently missing in the article by and large, and how the other Wiki handles these remarks. (Most of the comments in the "bigotry" section largely stem back to this era. And again, links to original articles would help if possible. The source article for the "flag-waving piccaninnies" sentence is available in Internet archive, for instance, and is a eye-rolling hoot. "Like Zeus, back there in the Iliad, he has turned his shining eyes away, far over the lands of the Hippemolgoi, the drinkers of mares' milk." What the fuck is this, a political column about Tony Blair, or overwrought Pitchfork indie music review? Nice colonialism allusions, too).

I would also support expanding this section to be less listicle and focused on only a few select quotes, and maybe do a more thorough survey of his boorish behavior (as "colourful language from a public schoolboy" defines him in so many ways).

But I would not support wholesale elimination at this time. His 'colourful language' comes up a lot in articles. It is not a nothingburger, in my opinion. Again, we'll see which way others think here. PanGalacticGargleBlaster (talk) 23:07, 11 February 2022 (UTC)

I generally agree with blaster here. It doesn't deserve a section but it should be noted.-Flandres (talk) 23:27, 11 February 2022 (UTC)

do you not have political sketches in the us? and the section is still trash AMassiveGay (talk) 11:11, 12 February 2022 (UTC)

its a shame that it seems bigotry is reduced to nothing more than people saying bad words on this wiki. AMassiveGay (talk) 11:18, 12 February 2022 (UTC)

Does Johnson have no filter between his brain and his mouth? I do think words do matter — if one routinely verbally demeans someone it indicates how one intends to treat the person. Bongolian (talk) 17:38, 12 February 2022 (UTC)

Possible Return?

Well, the animatronic hay bale has cut short his Caribbean holiday to return and try to garner the hundred nominations required to stand for party leader. His supporters claim he’s got enough, the Grauniad, as of ~ 15 minutes ago, says he’s only just over halfway there. Mr Larrington (talk) 16:18, 22 October 2022 (UTC)

This Bring Back Borris stuff is so absurd. He's got an ethics committee enquiry coming up which could get him expelled as an MP. That would leave The Conservative Party (and the UK) looking for yet another leader and Prime Minister. It's crazy! Bob^{"Life is short and (insert adjective)"} 19:59, 22 October 2022 (UTC)

Another possibility that I heard is that he gets banned from House of Commons at the enquiry next month. Or is that the same punishment? Bongolian (talk) 21:08, 22 October 2022 (UTC)