User talk:Shatoyaah C

Template:PolytonicCould you be asked to sign your posts please, with four tildes, like this: ~~~~. It makes it easier on all of us. --Kels 19:33, 18 February 2009 (EST) (bolding by Arcan ¡ollǝɥ 20:29, 18 February 2009 (EST))

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I don't see why CUR "unwelcomed" you, so here's the pretty version. Welcome to the Dollhouse! ħuman 19:41, 18 February 2009 (EST)

Rabid theism, that's why. --"CUR^talk 19:42, 18 February 2009 (EST)

It's not wandalism, though. So the unwelcome is inappropriate. --Kels 19:43, 18 February 2009 (EST)

Odd sort of name. What's the significance of it? --Gulik 19:49, 18 February 2009 (EST)

My name, from Latin, means God's gracious victory. It is a combination of Shane and Tori.

god will not have any victory here. Sorry. --"CUR^talk 19:55, 18 February 2009 (EST)

CUR strong anti-theism borders on irrational, especially if you are just making broad statements and insults instead of logical arguments. - User $\pi$ 19:57, 18 February 2009 (EST)

Sorry, you must have me confused with Susan. I am not a strong anti-theist. I am merely pointing out that unless he can offer us excellent proof of god's existance (the Bible doesn't count, sorry), that we will not believe him, just like you do not believe therianthropy (hmmm. . . Christian conservative meets evil therian- this could be interesting!). --"CUR^talk 20:01, 18 February 2009 (EST)

The signing thing, in the box below the editing screen, it say sign your name click on the sine function thing. - User $\pi$ 19:59, 18 February 2009 (EST)

A fellow Christian? I did'nt think there were any others on the site. DSFARGEG 20:00, 18 February 2009 (EST)

Another sock of you? Oh well, I'll be able to tell when it starts bashing otherkin/furries/therians. --"CUR^talk 20:01, 18 February 2009 (EST)

God may not force you to accept His existance today, but rest assured that when your time comes, you will realize the magnitude of your mistake, and on that day, He will have victory. ^{— Unsigned, by: Shatoyaah C / talk / contribs}

He will have victory when my theriotype changes to a Vulcan/human/angel/vampire/moron/etc. Which it can't. --"CUR^talk 20:04, 18 February 2009 (EST)

"theriotype" is as silly as the idea of God, minus the modicum of respect that comes with an idea being around for a few thousand years. TheoryOfPractice 20:06, 18 February 2009 (EST)

Gad, I'm sorry I mentioned the word. But Native Americans had similar ideas about animals. But can we get back to bashing this idiot? I only mentioned it because a theriotype can't be human or a species from a science-fiction series. --"CUR^talk 20:08, 18 February 2009 (EST)

We don't feel like "bashing this guy" he has done little to offend our sensibilities unlike someone. - User $\pi$ 20:10, 18 February 2009 (EST)

Homophobia and behaving quite a bit like teh assfly doesn't qualify for bashing? Okay, how about refuting? --"CUR^talk 20:11, 18 February 2009 (EST)

The is nothing to refute all he has done is state his position, until he give his reasoning there is not a lot to argue about. - User $\pi$ 20:13, 18 February 2009 (EST)

His assertion that we will suddenly become 'good christians' can fairly easily be refuted. --"CUR^talk 20:15, 18 February 2009 (EST)

Yes, I imagine you would still be this annoying as a Christian. - User $\pi$ 20:16, 18 February 2009 (EST)

If not more. --"CUR^talk 20:17, 18 February 2009 (EST)

OK, Shatoyaah C is probably a troll. I can tell from the pixels and having seen quite a few trolls in my time.DSFARGEG 20:07, 18 February 2009 (EST)

To you, ConservapediaUndergroundResistor, I can say that after looking up "therian" I am horrified at what you have chosen to identify with. From your misplaced belief, I can assume that you are almost hopelessly misplaced in what you worship, yourself. Understand that only through God can you fix that.

God may not force you to accept His existance today, but rest assured that when your time comes, you will realize the magnitude of your mistake, and on that day, He will have victory.

I agree fully. And on that day, I can only hope that my obeisance to Cthulhu will be sufficient to be eaten first, so I won't have to witness the horror of what It does to the rest of you poor saps. Do You Believe That? --Gulik 06:16, 20 February 2009 (EST)

To ||, I have seen and heard God more than once in my dreams, and I have felt his presence as clearly as I feel my computer.^{— Unsigned, by: Shatoyaah C / talk / contribs}

In CUR's defence, it is strange that an avid Christian would come here spouting rhetoric, given the sites mission, and disposition, though I mean no disrespect if his/her intentions are sincere. DSFARGEG 20:20, 18 February 2009 (EST)

This your second sock, DSFARGEG? --"CUR^talk 20:22, 18 February 2009 (EST)

CUR not only are you the worst sockpuppeteer in history you have no abilities of spotting some one's sock. It is clear neither RWWUR or Shatoyaah C are DSFARGEG. - User $\pi$ 20:31, 18 February 2009 (EST)

Perhaps you, then? Because DSFARGEG asserted that RWWUR was his sock. --"CUR^talk 20:33, 18 February 2009 (EST)

Why would I bother, I have better things to do? - User $\pi$ 20:37, 18 February 2009 (EST)

Could you please start signing your posts I am getting sick of following you around. - User $\pi$ 20:29, 18 February 2009 (EST)

Cthulhu speaks to me in MY dreams, too! Last time, It game me a really good recipe for fruitcake. Do You Believe That? --Gulik 06:16, 20 February 2009 (EST)

Keep your whiny religion and your judgment to yourself, please

I can't imagine what it takes to believe in a god who would punish all human and animal kind cause some people in a town sinned... who would kill 40 children cause his priest asked him to, or would state that it is acceptable to kill in his name, but if this is the god you believe in, please keep it to yourself. Walking into other people's homes, as it were, saying they are wrong, merely cause they think your sky god is a figment goes directly against what the teacher Jesus stated you should do. "dust off your shoes and walk away, if they disagree with you".--En attendant Godot_{"To-morrow, when I wake, or think I do, what shall I say of to-day?"} 20:36, 18 February 2009 (EST)

Why is it that the most religulous people tend to be the most judgemental... I seem to remember a fantasy novel that said "Judge not, lest ye be judged"... ĴάΛäšςǍ₰ no really.

Yeah, that's one of those bits that, like "sell all that you have and give it to the poor", is just too inconvenient for most people to bother with. --Gulik 06:12, 20 February 2009 (EST)

An apology

While I may find your superstitions a little odd, and some of your opinions rather vile, I wish to apologize on behalf of myself and any other RWians who wish to be apologized on behalf of for CUR's embarrassing and insulting reaction to you and your presence here. This place may not be your cup of tea, but we welcome any and all who wish to come here and discuss the site's premises and articles. Peace, ħuman 22:08, 18 February 2009 (EST)

Hmm, I guess I take after your attack on my beliefs? Remember that you treated me exactly the same way. --"CUR^talk 16:16, 19 February 2009 (EST)

Just because they criticised your ridiculous beliefs doesn't mean that they deserve to be unwelcomed for their ridiculous beliefs. Word wisest Hoover! 16:19, 19 February 2009 (EST)

I pretty much got an 'unwelcome' the moment you people found out about therianthropy. So either tolerate my views and I will help you, or do not and I will continue to harass this user in exactly the same way you did to me. That is my ultimatum, and it is perfectly reasonable. --"CUR^talk 16:24, 19 February 2009 (EST)

We never told you to leave the site, we merely engaged you in rational debate. You merely didn't like it because you can give it out but not take it back. On the other hand, you have given this person the unwelcome template and told them to leave without arguing with them. Word wisest Hoover! 16:29, 19 February 2009 (EST)

Insulting my beliefs isn't very rational. --"CUR^talk 16:31, 19 February 2009 (EST)

and insulting Shayatoyaah's is? Word wisest Hoover! 16:35, 19 February 2009 (EST)

I may have overreacted, and I apoligize to S.C. (can't be bothered with the name). --"CUR^talk 16:37, 19 February 2009 (EST)

If you wish, you can call me Shay. Most of my friends doShatoyaah C 16:36, 19 February 2009 (EST)

Someone who thinks that therianthropy is comparable to that passage with what's-the-Babylonian-guys-name cannot really be my friend. Sorry, though you may be happy to know that there are two promiment evangelacals who are also therians. --"CUR^talk 16:43, 19 February 2009 (EST)

I'd just like to add a line of support as well. I probably disagree with this user's world-view and frankly think that he/she is plain wrong - but our community standards on the mainpage state: We ...... encourage those who disagree with us to register and engage in constructive dialogue. Either we mean it or we don't.--Bob^{bing up} 02:23, 19 February 2009 (EST)

I accept your apology without reservations, it would be foolish of me not to do so. I do object to being labled "ridiculous", however. God and Jesus have impacted my life directly, saving both me and my mother from an untimely death, an experience I pray no other person will ever have to face. ^{— Unsigned, by: Shatoyaah C / talk / contribs}

For the love of goat, please sign your comments! Word wisest Hoover! 16:29, 19 February 2009 (EST)

(friggin EC - hehe)Bob, "constructive dialogue" is not telling other people to "turn to god" or that they have "lost their way". That is a behavior I find offensive in anyone. I was told by this person twice (without asking for their opinion) that I should turn aside from my silly little atheistic views and embrace god. That's not making an argument, that invasive proselytizing. Something I abhor, personally.--En attendant Godot_{"To-morrow, when I wake, or think I do, what shall I say of to-day?"} 16:31, 19 February 2009 (EST)

Same here. I was repeated insulted by this person for my beliefs. The first post they made was an insult to everyone here. --"CUR^talk 16:34, 19 February 2009 (EST)

Yes, but you arbitrarily blocked this person, for doing nothing but insulting. I think that's where people got onto your case. --En attendant Godot_{"To-morrow, when I wake, or think I do, what shall I say of to-day?"} 16:41, 19 February 2009 (EST)

CUR never blocked them. In fact, nobody has. --Kels 16:46, 19 February 2009 (EST)

I do not remember CUR (I hope you do not mind me using that name) blocking me. Shatoyaah C 16:43, 19 February 2009 (EST)

I call myself that, as well as cheetah, Acionyx, and n00b. CUR, as long is it is capatalized, is perfectly fine. --"CUR^talk 16:46, 19 February 2009 (EST)

(EC)To be fair, every post they've made has been "God is right, I pity you", so perhaps constructive dialogue isn't really the intent. It's also highly likely they're a Poe. However, seeing as they've been relatively low-key about it and haven't wandalized anything, I'd say CUR has hugely overreacted. I was rather shocked at how CUR reacted almost instantly as if they'd been scalded. It's weird to see such an extreme sudden reaction like that around here, just to a little light trolling. CUR, you're way too sensitive, and obviously too invested. Step back, stop responding to them entirely. You're not the only member of the community, and if you can't be trusted to keep your cool here then step back and let someone else do it. The "unwelcome" was a bit out of line, but the sharp "please leave" messages were definitely over. Tell yourself it's a parodist if it makes you feel better about it, but there's nothing but your own ego holding yourself in any of these conversations, so it's time to break it off. --Kels 16:45, 19 February 2009 (EST)

I have cooled down. I probably had too much cat hair last night. --"CUR^talk 16:46, 19 February 2009 (EST)

You mean you eat cat hair? Word wisest Hoover! 16:47, 19 February 2009 (EST)

When you have cats, the stuff gets everywhere- in your soup, in your water, on your clothes, in the air you breath, etc. And one of my cats was put down recently (feline AIDS). --"CUR^talk 16:50, 19 February 2009 (EST)

Clearly, he got his dander up. --Kels 16:48, 19 February 2009 (EST)

I think he makes some Interesting Points.--Tolerance 16:49, 19 February 2009 (EST)

(unident)No one else does. --"CUR^talk 16:50, 19 February 2009 (EST) Tolerance, I am a she. Shatoyaah C 16:51, 19 February 2009 (EST)

Tolerance, stop capatalizing nouns, verbs, and adjectives. No one does that any more. --"CUR^talk 16:53, 19 February 2009 (EST)

(reindent)(EC)Yes, but you are against criticism of anyone's beliefs, regardless of whether or not they are an irritating, homophobic proselytiser. Word wisest Hoover! 16:55, 19 February 2009 (EST)

Says you. Not me. I made a general statement about respect of belief and you immediately make a strawman out of it. --"CUR^talk 18:59, 19 February 2009 (EST)

Yes, all beliefs should be Respected.--Tolerance 16:57, 19 February 2009 (EST)

That settles it. This talk page is officially a trollercoaster.DSFARGEG 16:59, 19 February 2009 (EST)

(EC)Even those that believe things that are patently wrong, and direct hatred at those who hold a different lifestyle to themselves? Word wisest Hoover! 17:00, 19 February 2009 (EST)

We must Listen and Learn. Sometimes those who disagree with us can Teach us most.--Tolerance 17:03, 19 February 2009 (EST)

What a pile of moronic hippie hogwash. DSFARGEG 17:05, 19 February 2009 (EST)

It is Difficult to learn New things if you only Communicate with people you agree with. Debating with those who consider Themselves your Enemies forces you to Consider your Beliefs and Improve them - or Change them. Do not respond to what seem to be Insults for you will Learn Nothing by from Mutual Abuse. If they are indeed Insults and you respond kindly then you have shown yourself to be the Better Person.--Tolerance 16:01, 20 February 2009 (EST)

You could learn by reading how sentences are properly constructed.DSFARGEG 13:42, 24 February 2009 (EST)

Thank you for taking the Time to Reply. I shall indeed Attempt to "learn by reading how sentences are properly constructed" though I can't see the Errors which I Assume must Exist in my Text. I admit that people sometimes feel that my Capitalization is Surprising; but one could say the same thing of many Banks. I Continue to Maintain that discussion and discourse are the Way Forward.--Tolerance 14:30, 24 February 2009 (EST)

Dedicated Troll is dedicated.DSFARGEG 15:12, 24 February 2009 (EST)

He has Got a Point. We must debate with alternative Viewpoints if our Intellect is to expand. And if we Don't refresh our Skills, we will Get pwned. --"C, U R^{the crappy, cogitateing umbilical cord.} 21:17, 25 February 2009 (EST)

Religion

Could you tell me which Religion - if any - you are a member of?--Tolerance 16:51, 19 February 2009 (EST)

Fairly obvious a fundamentalist Christian. I think. I don't know, but I'd be willing to bet on it. I recognize the style. --"CUR^talk 16:52, 19 February 2009 (EST)

I would imagine so. I was only wondering if our Sister had a particular Church.--Tolerance 16:54, 19 February 2009 (EST)

I attend the Fargo Baptist Church. Shatoyaah C 17:06, 19 February 2009 (EST)

Shatoyaah, lets make a deal. You are entitled to your beliefs, however absurd I may view them as being. In return, we are entitled to our beliefs, no matter how absurd you believe they are. I suppose you can say I am requesting a cease-fire. You stop badgering us with your views, and you let the world turn, and let us be accountable to that sky fairy you believe in. ĴάΛäšςǍ₰ no really.

And let us write many articles on cats. --"CUR^talk 17:32, 19 February 2009 (EST)