RationalWiki:Articles for deletion/Eleonóra Dubiczki

Eleonóra Dubiczki | Result: Delete

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1. This entire article seems to be contingent upon an Encyclopedia Dramatica doxing of the subject of this page. ED is inherently unreliable. Bongolian (talk) 07:43, 29 January 2018 (UTC)
2. If the entire article relies on some dubious stuff from the vile ED, then it has to be deleted. Spud (talk) 08:00, 29 January 2018 (UTC)
3. If it's solely ED stuff, delete and start afresh with non-ED sources. Wilder^Bicycle 09:57, 29 January 2018 (UTC)
4. Per Bongolian. CowHouse (talk) 03:44, 30 January 2018 (UTC)
5. I've been pretty wary of this article given the personal nature of a lot of content that has been put in it. I didn't realize it was from ED, otherwise I would've started this AfD way sooner. Spriggina (prat) (insatser) @ 04:39, 30 January 2018 (UTC)

   I think we can delete it at this point. The article creator retired from RW, so is not likely to rise in its defense. Bongolian (talk) 04:41, 30 January 2018 (UTC)

   Actually, I'm 99.99% sure they're still here, just under a different username. They keep switching accounts. Spriggina (prat) (insatser) @ 14:04, 30 January 2018 (UTC)

   I'm almost certain that they're still here under at least two accounts, though thus far they haven't caused any obvious problems. Comrade GC (talk) 14:08, 30 January 2018 (UTC)

Keep

• I understand the article was deleted, but there's now better sources including a Wikipedia sockpuppet investigation:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Eleon%C3%B3ra_Dubiczki/Archive

Therefore, arguably the page can be restored. It was only deleted since Encylopedia dramatica isn't a reliable source.ODS (talk) 12:39, 7 March 2018 (UTC)

This is not compelling evidence, especially considering the suspiciously unsubtle account names such as "Eleonora Rightpedia owner". @Merkel has informed me that all of these Wikipedia accounts were created after the Dubiczki page was deleted on January 30. I checked and all the accounts were created in February 2018. Four of the five accounts were created in quick succession (between 00:29 and 00:43 on February 21). I don't know if they are impersonations but, since that could be done very easily, I don't find your evidence persuasive. CowHouse (talk) 14:45, 8 March 2018 (UTC)

Dude, Merkel is either Eleonóra Dubiczki herself, or the other admin from Rightpedia, A Wyatt Man. They aren't a reliable source for anything, but Nazi clowns. And their hypocrisy is through the roof - both Dubiczki/A Wyatt Man dox, smear and harass RationalWiki editors on their wiki, yet they come here and moan if their real names are merely mentioned.ODS (talk) 18:43, 8 March 2018 (UTC)

Anti-Defamation League, Hope not Hate, Searchlight are well aware of Rightpedia and Eleonóra Dubiczki's online extremist activities. At least two of these organizations have talked about a future expose on Eleonora and Rightpedia, but they are gathering more data about this so may take some time. You will have to wait until this happens and news coverage appears, then there will be more reliable sources. For now the article should stay down or as I suggested redirect to the Rightpedia article. Debunking spiritualism (talk) 18:56, 8 March 2018 (UTC)

The page could be restored but only if there is sufficient information on her to make the page missional without relying on sketchy sources for her alleged aliases. As @CowHouse pointed out, the Wikipedia accounts are not reliable sources. Bongolian (talk) 19:03, 8 March 2018 (UTC)

If you don't mind being really red-pilled, ODS and "Debunking spiritualism" are the same person who has used all these multiple socks in the past. So are all the proxy IPs. The "ODS" is a name impersonating a name related to Abd ul-Rahman Lomax. Abd ul-Rahman Lomax himself has been attacked with endless impersonation accounts, which are all by the same person as the sock puppets group on Wikipedia. Merkel (talk) 05:56, 9 March 2018 (UTC)

You have been promoting that conspiracy theory in many of your edits and even on your own user-page. I can assure you I am not ODS, I even reverted some of this users edits and agreed with other users to remove this article until we get news coverage. You have no proof for your allegations. Abd ul-Rahman Lomax is associated with the alt-right he does not like Jewish people. He has been banned by the Wikimedia Foundation for impersonating people [1]. He has also doxxed several RW admins on his website. He is not a reliable source of information and neither are you, you are a vile racist Rightpedia admin. You host personal addresses of anti-fascists on Rightpedia and put images of dead children on their articles, all this is to abuse Google traffic results. You are ok to dox and harass people on Rightpedia but when someone over here merely mentions Eleonóra Dubiczki the owner of your website, you turn up with a fit of rage and request for everything to be deleted. You never play fair, your agenda is to spread misinformation. Debunking spiritualism (talk) 07:55, 9 March 2018 (UTC)

Merge/redirect

1. I believe there is enough references so that an Eleonóra Dubiczki link can be redirected to the Rightpedia article. Debunking spiritualism (talk) 12:40, 7 March 2018 (UTC)

   That's reasonable. Bongolian (talk) 19:04, 7 March 2018 (UTC)