Talk:Law enforcement

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Move to fun[edit]

I think there is no way this belongs in the mainspace. Unless there are any objections, I'm going to move it and then create a mainspace article on this topic. Tetronian you're clueless 17:15, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, fun it up. Aboriginal Noise Punkrock 17:18, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
Better yet, just rewrite it from scratch. No need for a separate "fun" article. Secret Squirrel 17:51, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
Not very good article. If teh CP-centric part was removed there'd be nothing. ħumanUser talk:Human 04:45, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

Proposed deletion.[edit]

Nothing to this. AceX-102 22:29, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

Mmm ... whacker is the closest we come to missionality on the general subject - David Gerard (talk) 23:08, 31 July 2010 (UTC)


Potential resource[edit]

"...plans amount to an attempt by the police to put themselves beyond the rule of law and undermine constitutional safeguards against abuses of power." Police state?

Posted by Toast at the SB, copied here for posteriority and usefulness. ħumanUser talk:Human 02:59, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

This article desperately needs improvement[edit]

As the name of the topic suggests, this article (at the time of this posting) is in desperate need of improvement. It is little more than a complaint that law enforcement can be perverted by the power hungry (which never happens with any of the other systems humanity has created). Furthermore, it doesn't even contain any snark (or humor of any kind, as far as I can tell). Is anyone working on this, or should I add it to my project list? - Gameboy (talk) 20:36, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

"The police was made just to protect the establishment!"[edit]

Hi, I've seen this claim on the internet multitudes of times, but I feel like it has dubious origins. Searches relating to this statement on the web return some pretty fringe-looking websites and strange articles, while Wikipedia's article on the police itself doesn't really mention it or use quotes about it and instead presents it to be an evolution of past techniques into a modern setting. And our own wiki doesn't really mention it either, being pretty neutral about the entire thing (though to be fair it's not that well-written and the history section makes up only one sentence). I'd like to look more into the statement about the modern police's primary point protecting the wealthy before I jump into any conclusions. БaбyЛuigiOнФire(T|C) 18:31, 7 August 2019 (UTC)

Well, it's pretty subjective. Would you view Maximillian I's attempts to create a national Holy Roman identity through local police forces in an attempt to maintain support for the 30 years' war "protecting the establishment" That's one of the earliest recorded examples of organized, structured police forces separate from military. The leftists in question also tend to be a bit amerocentric, in discussing fugitive slave patrols as the earliest organized structured policing in the US, but it is a pretty sound example. Of course that overlooks para-organized groups with policing responsibility that predate slave patrols like the Boston Night Watch. It comes down to how you define "made" "just to" "police" and "protect the establishment" whether you buy into the historicity of that narrative. ikanreed 🐐Bleat at me 19:13, 7 August 2019 (UTC)
Thank you for the response. So I suppose that the statement has a grain of truth to it in some fashion, but it depends on the angle you view it and what classifies the influence of today's modern police, organized or not. Is there any material I can read about that goes into this, as it seems more complicated than a simple reading on Wikipedia or on internet articles? I think addressing the claim is something worth adding to the article though I'm not exactly sure where. БaбyЛuigiOнФire(T|C) 19:26, 7 August 2019 (UTC)