Talk:Manhattan Institute

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This media related article has been awarded BRONZE status for quality. It's getting there, but could be better with improvement. See RationalWiki:Article rating for more information.

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Project[edit]

What is their 'project'? 86.191.125.198 (talk) 12:33, 26 May 2017 (UTC)

The “project” of the Manhattan Institute and its house organ City Journal is to promote white supremacy.— Unsigned, by: 2600:387:3:803::96 / talk

Blowback[edit]

I find it deeply ironic that their shitty opinion piece about us has led to us heavily expanding the article on them. Carthage (talk) 02:25, 10 July 2023 (UTC)

It's not the first time something like that has happened on RationalWiki! Two days ago, I couldn't have told you what Manhattan Institute or City Journal were without looking them up. Bongolian (talk) 02:28, 10 July 2023 (UTC)

Pinkerite[edit]

Some blog posts that shed light on the City Journal article:

Seems 'David Zimmerman' is a fake name and the article writer is the same person behind Cancel Watch. They then blackmailed and threatened the (ex?)RationalWiki admin to delete articles here or would publish the article on him. Is mentioned on the page that the admin was supposedly banned in 2019 so that might explain why they could not do anything to remove the articles. 104.236.67.116 (talk) 10:33, 12 July 2023 (UTC)

Reliable sources/Noticeboard Wikipedia for City Journal[edit]

Hi,

I noticed this discussion and vote currently going on. If there are any RationalWiki mods here with accounts on Wikipedia, I would suggest voting to deprecate City Journal and Manhattan Institute (Option 4: Publishes false or fabricated information and should be deprecated.):

It appears no one has even mentioned there Manhattan Institute/City Journal are being sued over the retracted article.149.28.174.234 (talk) 17:53, 30 July 2023 (UTC)

One article about a silly Wikidrama feud does not in itself make a problem. The Wiki folks will sort it out.
In the past, I would have said "option 2" would be best, as they were a heavily conservative / libertarian outlet, willing to bend facts for certain corporatism (and other issues), but reasonably factual overall. This mirrors the Media Bias rating.
However, reviewing archives, it seems that in recent years, City Journal has heavily shifted into moral panic and hysterics over critical race theory, woke, and transgender. It is very possible that the institute now is less a corporatism think thank and more just another shitty culture war group. Shifts like this can coincide with a decline in factual quality (see Zero Hedge). If this is the case, then the crappy Wikidrama article might be more symptom then cause. BobJohnson (talk) 21:10, 30 July 2023 (UTC)