Talk:Social justice

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Coughlin?

The paragraph on Religious Social Justice Movements has a sentence reading:

This caused a bit of a furor when Glenn Beck, displaying his usual powers of perception and confusing this usage with Coughlin's and the Marxists...

Should Coughlin be mentioned elsewhere in the article, as this appears to not make sense otherwise. Pastor Cary (talk) 22:11, 22 August 2014 (UTC)

Ah yes, Father Coughlin, the raving Nazi supporter. True story, my Great Grandfather once punched him in the face. CorruptUser (talk) 05:38, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

Invisible link?

The inter-link to Twitter doesn't seem to be showing up. Is there a reason for this? As an example, I can't see what's between these two pairs of periods (one's normal, the other's Red2WP): .Twitter. .Twitter . ; But, I can see the following: Twitter Narky Sawtooth (Nyar~) 10:04, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

Online SJ section is shit

Bring cites or cull. This reads like someone whining the nasty Tumblr kids were mean to him - David Gerard (talk) 06:57, 19 June 2015 (UTC)

The Social Justice Warrior article is a lot worse. Wēāŝēīōīď^{Methinks it is a Weasel} 17:45, 21 June 2015 (UTC)

Basic concepts

How common are these ideas in social "sciences"? Are they largely accepted, debated or fringe? - ^{— Unsigned, by: 93.42.1.122 / talk / contribs}

What ideas? You need to have a subject so people know what you are talking about. The general concept of social justice has been coined and used since 1840 by a Jesuit priest named Luigi Taparelli. It's generally well accepted that the concept exists. -66.128.217.55 (talk) 14:38, 7 March 2016 (UTC)

I'm sorry, I should have been more clear. I was specifically referring to the "Basic concept" section, the sociological "explanation" of oppression and privilege.

SJWiki

This discussion was moved here from RationalWiki:Saloon bar#SJWiki.

Hey people, take a look at SJWiki's article on Levels of analysis more specifically, the usefulness section and then take a look at our article on social justice the basic concepts section. Thoughts?--WMS (talk) 22:40, 20 January 2017 (UTC)

Good find. Seems directly copied/pasted, though who knows which direction. I don't think we want that. B) talk 00:01, 21 January 2017 (UTC)

Yeah, unless we find some sort of way of checking the edit history on the article, we will not know who copied who. I'll try to work on finding that out.--WMS (talk) 09:42, 21 January 2017 (UTC)

Alright I did find out that Femilisk is a part of SJWiki. If you type User:Femilisk in the search bar, a page does exist but you cannot access it without logging in- Femilisk did create the basic concepts section so I imagine she would also be responsible for the levels of analysis on SJWiki. So, case solved then. I feel like most people knew about this already, so my apologies for making such a hoo-ha about this.--WMS (talk) 10:21, 21 January 2017 (UTC)

It's not a hoo-ha. Thanks for taking the time to stay vigilant of edit practices and to post your investigative concerns! Reverend Black Percy (talk) 11:57, 21 January 2017 (UTC)

Thank you RBP :) .--WMS (talk) 12:03, 21 January 2017 (UTC)

Yeah, this was a good thing to point out. I may have some spare time later today, maybe I'll take a stab at paraphrasing. B) talk 13:40, 21 January 2017 (UTC)

Note that article text can actually go from RW (cc-by-sa) to SJWiki (cc-by-nc-sa) without problems - David Gerard (talk) 15:42, 21 January 2017 (UTC)

Yeah, you're right. The text is a little awkward though, could maybe use a tweak nonetheless. B) talk 16:27, 21 January 2017 (UTC)

Words are words

What does this mean? "owning one's problematic statements," What is problematic about one's words They're Words. Is it pathetic that a nursery rhyme has more insight that Social Justice? At least what's on the internet anyway. "Sticks and stones may break my bones but words may never hurt me.. TheDarkMaster2 (talk) 21:22, 1 December 2018 (UTC)

What planet are you from? --It's-a me, 🎄LeftyGreenMario!🎄 21:35, 1 December 2018 (UTC)

@LeftyGreenMario He's from a place I call "the land of stupid", where people can say anything they want, but heaven and hell help you if you try to hold them accountable for what they say. Oh, and boarderline harrassment is acceptable behavior. ☭Comrade GC☭^{Ministry of Praise} 21:45, 1 December 2018 (UTC)

I don't support harassment but if you believe in free speech it's an inevitability.You claim that you're holding people accountable by getting them fired which is ridiculous because if the same private business discriminates based on anything else it's evil. Pick one either Private businesses can employ and serve whoever they want or they can't I believe in valid criticism which people like you think equates to harassment. TheDarkMaster2 (talk) 15:05, 2 December 2018 (UTC)

The point.

Your head. ☭Comrade GC☭^{Ministry of Praise} 16:19, 2 December 2018 (UTC)

You have no point yet you must petulantly scream. TheDarkMaster2 (talk) 17:24, 2 December 2018 (UTC)

Scream? When? I have at most felt irritation at our exchanges but never anything that could be discribed as a "scream". But how could I not feel irritation at someone who time and again outright lies about others, and when called out on it screams about persecution? Such a person is nothing more to me than an infant, one not fit for mature discussions about anything of note. ☭Comrade GC☭^{Ministry of Praise} 18:04, 2 December 2018 (UTC)

I don't support harassment but I have black friends. Science doesn't know everything. --It's-a me, 🎄LeftyGreenMario!🎄 02:20, 3 December 2018 (UTC)

I am no fan of those labels

Honestly, anyone could be technically compared to Hitler. If you wanna know where I stand, well, I myself am a Christian and I do not like it that people like me are blamed for everything. Hope you understand. 217.128.167.152 (talk) 14:52, 12 August 2020 (UTC)

(sees contributions) Stop polluting talk pages with your shit. 47.148.108.245 (talk) 18:53, 12 August 2020 (UTC)

Romsini coined the term a few years before Taparelli, and popularized the term later

Although conservatives and the occasional scholar falsely attribute Taparelli as the first and hyperfocus on Taparelli. Kraynak, R. P. (2018). The Origins of “Social Justice” in the Natural Law Philosophy of Antonio Rosmini. The Review of Politics, 80(01), 3–29. doi:10.1017/s0034670517000754 2600:8806:0:C2:CCA0:8C08:83D4:F917 (talk) 16:10, 7 April 2022 (UTC)