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Waiting ..[edit]

for an internet aspie to say "I don't really have Aspergers, I just hate you and everyone around me." Nutty Roux100x100 anarchy symbol.svg 12:10, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

Who are you talking about? –Александр(а) (Talk | Contribs | Ragebox) 22:22, 11 July 2013 (UTC)
Not you, Sasha. Nutty Roux100x100 anarchy symbol.svg 22:38, 11 July 2013 (UTC)
Who was it? Marcus Cicero? –Александр(а) (Talk | Contribs | Ragebox) 22:56, 11 July 2013 (UTC)
You need to learn how to roll with things around here. The bus came by/and I got on.Moderator 23:41, 11 July 2013 (UTC)
What are you saying? –Александр(а) (Talk | Contribs | Ragebox) 02:32, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
That you're not picking up what we're laying down. Nutty Roux100x100 anarchy symbol.svg 02:43, 12 July 2013 (UTC)

Not sure what to say here.[edit]

Someone just posted a... questionable poll on WIGO:CP. I can't stand the vicious idiots any more than the next RationalWikian, but I'm not sure we should indulge in this sort of thing. --TheLateGatsby (The end of the dock ) 14:55, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

We most decidedly should not. Deleting it was wise. I'll oversight it, if I can remember how. The bus came by/and I got on.Moderator 15:11, 11 July 2013 (UTC)
Thank you, and please do! --TheLateGatsby (The end of the dock ) 15:13, 11 July 2013 (UTC)
Should we also be deleting the pictures that were associated with the post? The files have been left up on the wiki, just not linked to anywhere. --ShadowofLords (talk) 17:42, 11 July 2013 (UTC)


Thanks for giving me sysop back; though it's outstandingly unlikely that I'll actually do anything with it. Good to see that some traditions don't change though.--False Flag (talk) 21:33, 14 July 2013 (UTC)

Anytime. You should hang out more. It would be a nice change from some of the losers we've picked up. The bus came by/and I got on.Moderator 23:26, 14 July 2013 (UTC)


Read Rationalwiki: Ron Paul, who is often viewed as a libertarian, would more fit the paleoconservative/libertarian framework. nobsJesus loves you and I love you, but nobody else does. 01:48, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

Ron =/= Rand. The bus came by/and I got on.Moderator 02:06, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
so yur sayin' the Conservative Political Action Committee 2016 frontrunner is not a paleocon at all, but rather a paleolibertarian. Got it. nobsJesus loves you and I love you, but nobody else does. 02:25, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
To a certain extent, what I'm saying is that "paleoconservatism" is a label that's past it's "best before" date, which came sometime during the Clinton administration. They're a dying breed of politician who, in a Khunian way, didn't get on the bus when the shift came. We're just waiting for them to die off now. The bus came by/and I got on.Moderator 02:32, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
But this is the debate as the GOP does soul searching in the wilderness: Rand Paul and paleocon ideas are gaining ascendancy. Should he be the nominee in 2016, it will be a very different GOP than we've known for 60 years. His views might even be considered mainstream among independents & moderates outside the GOP. Rubio at this point may be toast already. And everything (drones, NSA, immigration, Syria, Afghanistan, etc. etc.) anti-administration seems to work for Rand Paul's advantage. nobsJesus loves you and I love you, but nobody else does. 02:43, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

Canadian War Museum[edit]

What happened? –Александр(а) (Talk | Contribs | Ragebox) 05:04, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

This. The bus came by/and I got on.Moderator 12:13, 11 July 2013 (UTC)
Thanks. That page says that it was the original display that was Nazi sympathetic, and that it was the change that made it less Nazi sympathetic. What I am doing is working on eliminating Nazi sympathetic views and misconceptions. I'll mention something to keep in mind with the British bombings that took place at night. The accuracy at the time was very limited, and most bombers did not come within five miles of the target, because of technological limitations at that time. Secondly, the British were disinclined to waste the lives of British airmen to save Germans in a war started by Germans against them. It had also been the Germans who had first started bombing civilians. When you take into account the historical context, it doesn't justify it, but it makes it understandable. –Александр(а) (Talk | Contribs | Ragebox) 22:21, 11 July 2013 (UTC)
"the British were disinclined to waste the lives of British airmen to save Germans in a war started by Germans against them." Whut now? Germany started a war against Czechoslovakia & then Poland, not Britain. France & Britain declared war on Germany. ŴêâŝêîôîďWeaselly.jpgMethinks it is a Weasel 01:04, 13 July 2013 (UTC)
Show me where the page says what you think it does, because I do not believe you are reading it correctly. At all. The bus came by/and I got on.Moderator 22:23, 11 July 2013 (UTC)
"It appears to have won the approval of veterans, who said the wording of the original text makes Bomber Command appear to be "war criminals.""""
It says that the original text was more Nazi sympathetic and the change made it more favorable to the Allies. –Александр(а) (Talk | Contribs | Ragebox) 02:33, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
It does not even use the word "Nazi." Let me get this straight. You are arguing that professional historians and museologists in the employ of the Heritage Ministry of the Government of Canada created a museum exhibit that had Nazi symptathies. Is that what I am to understand? The bus came by/and I got on.Moderator 03:11, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
No, I don't think that there's a ****ing Nazi conspiracy or sth like that. I get the impression that you're deliberately trying to suggest that I'm advocating some sort of fringe theory. I don't think that the people responsible for setting up the museum are deliberately trying to be Nazi sympathetic, but they could be omitting information without realizing the effect, or they could think that they're giving a more "balanced" presentation by being Nazi sympathetic; I reference the "it's wrong to impose democracy on other countries" bullshit and people who are in the mindset that US = aggressor/wrong. –Александр(а) (Talk | Contribs | Ragebox) 21:51, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
Did you even read the article? Please tell me exactly what passage suggests to you that the museum was potentially being sympathetic to Nazism, as you have just argued. Also, where exactly does the imposition of democracy fit in with the article in question? The bus came by/and I got on.Moderator 22:42, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
Sympathetic to civilian war casualties, including those in Nazi Germany =/= "Nazi sympathetic". ŴêâŝêîôîďWeaselly.jpgMethinks it is a Weasel 01:04, 13 July 2013 (UTC)
Portraying Germans as victims of Allied aggression = Nazi sympathetic. –Александр(а) (Talk | Contribs | Ragebox) 00:17, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
Sorry, but that statement is not even wrong. Listening to Ella Fitzgerald sing "Baby, if I'm the bottom, you're the top" is very different after reading Dan Savage's column..Moderator 00:37, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
How is it "not even wrong?" It's one of the red herrings in Holocaust denial. –Александр(а) (Talk | Contribs | Ragebox) 02:43, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
I'm sorry, but I'm not going to have this conversation with you, for a couple of reasons: 1. Out of fear that it will quickly degenerate into you calling me a bigot again or accusing me of being a Holocaust denier; 2. because I have a limited amount of time left on this planet and I don't want to spend it trying to convince someone that expressing compassion at the human cost of war is in no way indicative of a sense of sympathy with the programme of racial hatred that was Nazism. I am right, you are wrong, and there is no way, or reason, for me to try to convince you otherwise. I am done trying to correct everybody who is wrong on the internet. Have a good evening. Listening to Ella Fitzgerald sing "Baby, if I'm the bottom, you're the top" is very different after reading Dan Savage's column..Moderator 03:03, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
I won't call you a bigot or a Holocaust denier because you are not. Trying to correct people who are wrong on the Internet is a humanitarian activity! I am right, you are wrong. –Александр(а) (Talk | Contribs | Ragebox) 03:15, 22 July 2013 (UTC)


I'm sorry about jumping to conclusions about the movie suggestion. Thanks for suggesting it. As a serious suggestion it's pretty good. For a moment I thought you were trying to imply that I was acting like Nazis are some sort of monsters and that I'm tilting at windmills by working to counter Nazi revisionism and myths. –Александр(а) (Talk | Contribs | Ragebox) 01:20, 16 July 2013 (UTC)

No problem. A couple of good-faith questions here, none of which you need to answer. You've been very open about living with Asperger's. Do you see a mental health professional/follow some sort of CBT course to help you deal with situations where a misreading/radical overthinking of a gesture/message/social cue ends up in anger/conflict? Also, you're German? Russian? American of more recent Euro descent? While I understand that you're interested in Nazi history and anti-neo-Nazi activism for good cause, it's pretty clear you take this particular history (the Eastern Front, plus the Shoah) pretty personally. There's nothing wrong with that, but one can do better work when one is a little more objective. Homicide detectives wouldn't last very long, or be very good at their jobs, if they had a visceral personal hatred for murderers. Historians of difficult and recent histories can't go around seething all the time. It's no good for the soul. (Nobody gets too worked up studying the history of Genghis Khan, and, as much as it might pain you to realize it, in 1000 years, people probably won't have existential crises studying the Holocaust. The bus came by/and I got on.Moderator 01:32, 16 July 2013 (UTC)
To start, I feel bad about the fact that you suggested something nice and I blew up. Moving on, I'll give a start to this, because some of the latter questions are quite complex. I haven't been involved in any Autism related programs for years because I haven't needed to. I'm also not sure to what extent I still qualify for the diagnosis. I've read about small numbers of people who "grow out of it" if you want to think of it that way. I don't have these same sorts of problems in the physical world, probably because of the fact that I can see people face to face. That ability to understand small social subtleties is a reason why I question whether it's still accurate to classify myself as Autistic.
I realize that studying a historical subject needs to be done objectively, and shouldn't have a lot of emotion impairing it. As long as I work in a historiographic mindset, I can be pretty objective and not worry too much about emotion. I'm not saying it's 100% gone, but working with a historical mindset helps.
It's interesting that you mention homicide detectives in this situation. On, I have a few of my stories. The character Kevin is based on one of my friends who had a burning desire to see all serial killers eradicated based on his massive pedestalization of women. He also wanted to become a homicide detective to help put them away. I tried pointing out to him that it wouldn't be a good thing to be doing with his level of emotion. Plus odds were that he'd lose the passion once he met a girlfriend.
Point is, I realize that it's not good to be working on something too emotional. I can point to issues that I've had recently with studying the Nazis. Being able to detach from it to focus on a historical perspective helps.
I'm American, but where that's not specific, I'm mostly eastern European. I've heard that at least to some people it's obvious, but it's not intense. There does seem to be a lot of atheist Ashkenazi people that I grew up with. I don't really have any personal connection with the Nazis though. That's also an advantage since I can't be written off as emotional or too closely connected the way a Jewish person could.
I'm really not that upset at the idea that people probably won't have existential crises over the Holocaust in 1,000 years, provided it's for the right reasons. I think that it's possible that the war and the Holocaust still might have profound effects on people for that long for various reasons, because of the scale and the fact that it was the first time that a developed nation did anything like that. I also suspect that many of the people encouraging Holocaust education now would be responsible for such a view, because of how they go about it. Right now we almost give the Nazis some sort of mythical status, while at the same time there are people trying to humanize them. I'm also more concerned with the near future or big picture thinking. My goal is party to debunk myths associated with the gamer pseudo Nazi fetishist types who try to glorify and romanticize the Nazi military. There's also the crowd that thinks that it would be a good idea to recreate the Second Reich because of how progressive it was. While it was very successful and the success should be emulated, the nationalism that led to the formation of the Second Reich led to the Holocaust. Plus the Third Reich was a revival of the second after it collapsed, and that did lead straight to the Holocaust. That said, most of the people with an admiration of the Second Reich who aren't German Neo Nazis are probably pathetic losers with social and sex lives on par with Enlightenment Liberal. Holocaust education is a conflicted subject for me. In a lot of ways, I want to say that we should drop it completely from popular culture because we're commercializing it. At the same time, there's a lot of very significant things that people are ignorant of that lead to pro Nazi and Nazi sympathetic conclusions.
Александр(а) (Talk | Contribs | Ragebox) 03:37, 16 July 2013 (UTC)
Did you want me to answer this? –Александр(а) (Talk | Contribs | Ragebox) 00:19, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
I saw you did -- I'll jot some notes later... Listening to Ella Fitzgerald sing "Baby, if I'm the bottom, you're the top" is very different after reading Dan Savage's column..Moderator 00:37, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
No problem. I just wanted to make sure that you got it. –Александр(а) (Talk | Contribs | Ragebox) 02:41, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

What Jersey Shore should have really been about[edit]

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Thank you -- I must say I am somewhat startled by this. - Smerdis of Tlön (talk) 16:35, 25 July 2013 (UTC)

Why? It's the default setting for non-vandals after a few weeks. PowderSmokeAndLeather: Say something once, why say it again?.Moderator 16:42, 25 July 2013 (UTC)

I don't understand why you reverted my edit-- (talk) 19:32, 25 July 2013 (UTC)

Explain to me exactly how this was at all a useful edit. PowderSmokeAndLeather: Say something once, why say it again?.Moderator 19:38, 25 July 2013 (UTC)

So are you RW's police? Do all posts have to be approved by yourself?

Yes. PowderSmokeAndLeather: Say something once, why say it again?.Moderator 19:42, 26 July 2013 (UTC)
Here's a hint, bozo -- look at what your edit did to the user's signature in the very top line. That's why I reverted. Don't be sloppy next time. PowderSmokeAndLeather: Say something once, why say it again?.Moderator 19:45, 26 July 2013 (UTC)

Harperwatch Summer 2013[edit]

Mike Duffy and the budget deficit aren't going away, and Trudeau II is going to win the youth vote. 19:13, 26 July 2013 (UTC)

I don't see the Liberals picking up many NDP seats here in QC; they may all go back to the Bloc. Unless a LOT of Ontario moves its vote to the Grits, Conservative minority. PowderSmokeAndLeather: Say something once, why say it again?.Moderator 19:43, 26 July 2013 (UTC)


I didn't intend the addition to the Fritzl case as an indication of national character. It is a fact that that case has happened. And it is a fact that other European countries still use the Fritzl case as a jab at Austria, along with the Haider, Strache and FPÖ stuff. British panel shows like "Mock the Week" and "8 out of 10 Cats" still make reference to it, similar to how in America we joke about, for example, the various peculiarities of the Deep South. I still think it should be mentioned, although I'm willing to admit that it could be better phrased. DarthBinky (talk) 20:23, 27 July 2013 (UTC)

Meh, I don't really see it as mission-worthy; horrible crimes happen everywhere. "The peculiarities of the South" are about a centuries-long tradition of racial hatred, this is one guy. That other people harp on the crime says more about them than the country where the crime happened to have taken place. PowderSmokeAndLeather: Say something once, why say it again?.Moderator 20:26, 27 July 2013 (UTC)

I sent you an email about your anti-American bigotry[edit]

I expect a prompt response. You will be rewarded. Nutty Roux100x100 anarchy symbol.svg 12:46, 30 July 2013 (UTC)

Good edits at War crimes against Germans on the Eastern Front[edit]

Good job retiteling the page and adding links and improving sentences. –Александр(а) (Talk | Contribs | Ragebox) 02:34, 31 July 2013 (UTC)

The deletion tag[edit]

Considering that his argument consists almost entirely of Ad Hominem, I don't think that it was put there "in good faith." –Александр(а) (Talk | Contribs | Ragebox) 15:50, 31 July 2013 (UTC)

There's a discussion on the relevant talk page. I have given my opinion there. Please don't metastasize the conversation across the wiki. PowderSmokeAndLeather: Say something once, why say it again?.Moderator 15:52, 31 July 2013 (UTC)
Ok. Just to let you know, he's making unproductive edits by doing things like bolding every use of rape because he's obsessed with the idea that I'm obsessed with it. –Александр(а) (Talk | Contribs | Ragebox) 15:53, 31 July 2013 (UTC)
I know. He did. You kind of are. Everyone try to chill the fuck out for a while. PowderSmokeAndLeather: Say something once, why say it again?.Moderator 15:55, 31 July 2013 (UTC)
That's also not a reason to not have an article on a perfectly useful topic. What would be the solution? To have someone else write an identical article? –Александр(а) (Talk | Contribs | Ragebox) 16:01, 31 July 2013 (UTC)

Read my comment on the relevant page. PowderSmokeAndLeather: Say something once, why say it again?.Moderator 16:03, 31 July 2013 (UTC)

I have and I responded. I would also like to refer you to this. –Александр(а) (Talk | Contribs | Ragebox) 16:09, 31 July 2013 (UTC)

Your edit summary[edit]

[1] I'm not claiming that anyone is "to blame" for rape. That content was supported by eight citations from reputable sources. There's a discussion about it on the relevant talk page. –Александр(а) (Talk | Contribs | Ragebox) 18:40, 31 July 2013 (UTC)

Situation with Hipocrite[edit]

I'm hoping that we can reach a calm and peaceful resolution. [2]Александр(а) (Talk | Contribs | Ragebox) 23:29, 31 July 2013 (UTC)


I'm sorry about the name calling and the BS I've given you. I'm really sorry about that and I really appreciate that you have been patient. –Александр(а) (Talk | Contribs | Ragebox) 23:32, 31 July 2013 (UTC)

Block time support[edit]

Did you just block someone for pi multiplied by zero seconds? If so, why does the software even support that? And why would you even think to try? (n.b. this is curiosity and not condemnation — although it makes me wonder if MediaWiki is actually doing the math or if it's just discarding all non-numeric input after the 0.) AntiDeathPill (talk) 13:49, 2 August 2013 (UTC)

We have a long tradition here of using blocks as sort of an intercom/message system. A time-meaningless block allows one to send a note without actually messing a guy up. Th "pi" thing is because it's an irrational number, and all blocks in the pre-sets are approximations of pi. How this works with the MW software is above my pay grade. PowderSmokeAndLeather: Say something once, why say it again?.Moderator 13:52, 2 August 2013 (UTC)
AntiDeathPill I just gave you a nice friendly bludgeoning with the Banhammer of Useful Irrationality. I thank PS&L for not wishing to step on my toes, and I'm not just saying that to avoid being blocked again, no sir, not at all. Sprocket J Cogswell (talk) 14:00, 2 August 2013 (UTC)
You've been here long enough to remember the Fibonacci rule in block lengths. PowderSmokeAndLeather: Say something once, why say it again?.Moderator 14:05, 2 August 2013 (UTC)
(EC- technical answer) If you look at the MW space code for block messages in the pulldown menu, you'll see that the input it for π x 0 seconds is actually 0 seconds. Nx explained to me that acceptable values (as in the optional custom value textfield) are what the MySQL database will accept for a DateTime value, which apparently includes weird stuff like "indefinite" and "infinite." Nutty Roux100x100 anarchy symbol.svg 14:08, 2 August 2013 (UTC)
[another EC]Recent memory revealeth not the need for such escalation as Fib, nor do I wish to stir it up. If I ruled the wiki, it would be an exponential series, say en, just to tweak the ignorami who abuse that word. Sprocket J Cogswell (talk) 14:11, 2 August 2013 (UTC)
Peeking behind the curtain here scares and confuses me. I love it, and it's always fun to learn a new little thing about the wiki. Thanks for being patient with me. AntiDeathPill (talk) 14:20, 2 August 2013 (UTC)