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You've been reading for six months and you still decided to join? You're crazier than I thought. Cheers VOXHUMANA 13:27, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

Hello. Please sign talk page entries using four tildes like this: ~~~~ or by clicking on the sign button: SigButt.png, on the toolbar above the edit panel. Thank you. Blue (is useful) 14:18, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
Hello to you both! Sorry, I'll go back and do that now. TheLateGatsby (talk) 14:21, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
(Obviously, Blue had already fixed it. D'oh.) --TheLateGatsby (talk) 14:04, 21 March 2013 (UTC)

Rum, Romanism, and Rebellion![edit]

Namedropping Al SmithWikipedia -- are you a New Yawker or just a history buff? Nebuchadnezzar (talk) 22:27, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

I am proud to be both, o mighty king. --TheLateGatsby (talk) 22:37, 28 August 2012 (UTC)
That makes two of us, and this town ain't big enough for the both of us... Nebuchadnezzar (talk) 23:31, 29 August 2012 (UTC)
"Yep! Ah reckon we'll have to annex part o' the county!" --TheLateGatsby (talk) 00:32, 30 August 2012 (UTC)


You are a sysop. Here is your manual. ТyJFBAA 03:31, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

Thank you. --TheLateGatsby (talk) 03:47, 2 September 2012 (UTC)
np. ТyJFBAA 03:51, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

"I have this stupid habit of highlighting text and clicking around"[edit]

You do that too? Acei9 05:01, 3 September 2012 (UTC)

Yeah. I don't know why. --TheLateGatsby (talk) 05:05, 3 September 2012 (UTC)
Me neither and I do it all the time. It once caused me to send an email to over 8000 clients and potential clients when I only meant to send the email to 100 or so people because I was clicking all over the place. Acei9 05:08, 3 September 2012 (UTC)
Yikes. I hope that didn't cause too much trouble. --TheLateGatsby (talk) 05:26, 3 September 2012 (UTC)
Na, I managed to stop the emails from sending, only about 80 ended up going out. Gave me a fright though. Acei9 06:02, 3 September 2012 (UTC)
  • Holds hand up* Same here.--Revolverman (talk) 05:40, 3 September 2012 (UTC)

"Dumb even by our standards"[edit]

You should have seen the shit we deleted last year. ТyJFBAA 00:47, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

I shudder to think of it. I was not the one who marked the article, though -I don't know how long it was sitting there. --TheLateGatsby (talk) 00:51, 4 September 2012 (UTC)
I was the marker FYI. Not long after I defended a page, saying "I don't like to delete pages" Hypocrisy Go! --Revolverman (talk) 00:52, 4 September 2012 (UTC)
That's what I get for being lazy and tipsy. And yeah, we're talking unfunnyness on an epic scale. ТyJFBAA 00:54, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

Naked below the waist[edit]

You must really hate pants :-) Star of David.png Radioactive afikomen Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments. 01:55, 19 October 2012 (UTC)

I'm more partial to collarless shirts. --TheLateGatsby (talk) 01:57, 19 October 2012 (UTC)
As pants? That sounds uncomfortable. Star of David.png Radioactive afikomen Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments. 02:18, 19 October 2012 (UTC)
Still better than $130 jeans endorsed by Glenn Beck. --TheLateGatsby (talk) 02:20, 19 October 2012 (UTC)
"There is no such thing as a bad product, only a bad price." Star of David.png Radioactive afikomen Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments. 03:09, 19 October 2012 (UTC)


hmm. Nobodydon't bother 05:54, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

Hm? --TheLateGatsby (talk) 05:56, 16 January 2013 (UTC)
Userpage edits. Nobodydon't bother 05:59, 16 January 2013 (UTC)
Tomorrow I'm taking a stroll to the library to get back to work on Brigham Young so I can make some productive edits. Tonight I'm sprucing up the userpage. --TheLateGatsby (talk) 06:07, 16 January 2013 (UTC)
Hopefully my genetics and micro classes will help me do something similar. Nobodydon't bother 06:11, 16 January 2013 (UTC)
You shouldn't be fritterin' around with your userpage. We look down on fritterin' around here. Star of David.png Radioactive afikomen Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments. 06:18, 16 January 2013 (UTC)
Not "fritterin'", fiddling -sounds crazy, no? --TheLateGatsby (talk) 06:31, 16 January 2013 (UTC)
Fiddlin' is fine. Star of David.png Radioactive afikomen Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments. 06:36, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

I feel you man. TyJFBANBSRADA 19:16, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

Watching people breath fire on each other gets old, fast. --TheLateGatsby (talk) 20:44, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

...why not troll a bigger site?[edit]

'Cause a bigger site would either have rules in place that would shut him down more effectively, or he would get lost in the shuffle. RW is the perfect environment for his kind of trolling -- no consensus on how to deal with it, so the trolling creates discord, and it's so tiny that it's hard to miss. When Roosevelt came to the land of the hummingbird, shouts of welcome were heard!. 16:00, 9 March 2013 (UTC)

By the time your block ran out, I realized I had answered my own question. --TheLateGatsby (talk) 16:04, 9 March 2013 (UTC)

Chronological snobbery[edit]

Got an article on that already. Nebuchadnezzar (talk) 02:42, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

Thank you! TheLateGatsby (talk) 12:29, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

"Perhaps I could be an archivist."[edit]

Researchers appreciate a bit of personal interaction with their archivists, I'm afraid. A lot of the job involves facilitating getting the material and the eyes together, which means dealing with people. Did he doubt/Or did he try? 15:20, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

All too true! I'll probably be stuck doing my current job, anyway. --TheLateGatsby (talk) 15:32, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

LET'S GET ON IT![edit]

Well let's make a Magna Carta page! FOR ENGLAND! I'm so pumped, man. Pascal yuiop (talk) 19:56, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

Okie dokie. I started it. --TheLateGatsby (The end of the dock ) 20:37, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

I have nominated myself for moderator.[edit]

(copy-pasted from here)

I nominate myself as we should have at least 9 people running, to fill the seven spots and two alternates. I will use a "light touch", which is preferable for all involved. I know I'm relatively new here, so I'm not as familiar with the wiki as Mods usually are, on the other hand, I have no friends here, and won't play favorites. --TheLateGatsby (The end of the dock ) 16:10, 24 June 2013 (UTC)

Great guy[edit]

I would just like to say that I think you're a top bloke. I believe I speak on behalf of all Rationalwikians when I say this. MarcusCicero (talk) 18:05, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

In most cultures it is considered rude not to respond to a compliment. MarcusCicero (talk) 17:43, 27 June 2013 (UTC)
I don't take compliments very well... It's totally spaghetti, as the young people in the stranger parts of the internet say. Thank you for the compliment, I hope to stay that way. --TheLateGatsby (The end of the dock ) 17:49, 27 June 2013 (UTC)

Liberal bias[edit]

It's shocking to see how people on site with such name are fond of irrational labelling of reasonable rational people as "batshit crazy" or "islamophobe" or "racist". Here's one example Quotes were taken out of context to make him look racist(see talk section). After people ignored my criticism of quote mining I started debate And again debate ended with labelling. Well if people aren't fond of finding the truth and labelling replaced their critical thinking why should I waste time to prove anything? Atheism and atheists are already in category of "islamophobia" and "racism". Sooner or later it will be added to those categories - I just making it happen now. — Unsigned, by: / talk / contribs

The other day, we had a fellow making edits decrying us as blind to an imagined Islamic threat, as follows:
It seems we cannot satisfy anyone!
--TheLateGatsby (The end of the dock ) 21:06, 28 June 2013 (UTC)
Oh, I'm sorry, I misunderstood. You think we're molly-coddling fanatics, too, so you decided to disrupt the wiki to make a point? --TheLateGatsby (The end of the dock ) 21:17, 28 June 2013 (UTC)
No, I think you are bunch of cruel politically correct fanatics. From site with such name people expect to see balanced objective articles but instead there's a lot of whiney bullshit. Extensive use of labels is direct result of ideologic purity rather than facts. And don't try to portray me as right-wing nut. As I said in debate I'm left-wing liberal who disgusted to see how ideology is becoming a dogma. Go to Sam Harris article, read it, read original quotes and say if that's not bias to call him a "racist". — Unsigned, by: / talk / contribs
NPOV can be found on Wikipedia. I'm not sure how "cruel" and "politically correct" go together, I though the point of being PC was to spare feelings. --TheLateGatsby (The end of the dock ) 21:55, 28 June 2013 (UTC)
Do you think those edits I listed were helpful? Do you think your edits were helpful? --TheLateGatsby (The end of the dock ) 21:22, 28 June 2013 (UTC)
Well if you don't find bias in accusing rational atheist as "racist" then I don't see problem either. I will continue labelling rest of atheists who criticize islam the same way.— Unsigned, by: / talk / contribs
Such edits are unhelpful, and I doubt you'll make friends this way. There are a great number of people Pissed at us, and they're often not on the same "team". Make of that what you will. --TheLateGatsby (The end of the dock ) 22:35, 28 June 2013 (UTC)


I also thought it was policy not to delete contributions. Or, as it is on CP, these rules don't apply to top brass? It seems the unofficial policy is to appease Ken and his like--Mercian (talk) 18:12, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

"We do not condone vandalism of other wikis, and most of us feel quite strongly on that point". I meant "Don't egg the poor bastard on" as in "don't vandalize Conservapedia, thus encouraging him to make more shitty content". At what point does calling his posts "psychotic raving" sound like appeasement? --TheLateGatsby (The end of the dock ) 18:19, 26 August 2013 (UTC)
Secondly, one cannot delete contributions on talk pages. That's an article. Thirdly, I'm not top brass here -I'm a minor editor, and hold no "offices". --TheLateGatsby (The end of the dock ) 18:24, 26 August 2013 (UTC)
I have never condoned vandalism of any kind and don't with CP , although in it's case it would be more of a disaster clean up operation then vandalism. When he goes on with his unwarranted attacks of the UK, Germany(even suggesting the German people still follow Hitler's doctrine) and the Nordic countries as havens of bestiality, but refuses to acknowledge that these things go on the USA, where it is in many places legal, including the US Military, at the same time blocking and deleting any descent or disagreement, indirect methods need to be used to pull him up on his bullshit. If you are telling me to stop, I will do but that would not seem to be inline with Rationwiki's philosophy.--Mercian (talk) 18:28, 26 August 2013 (UTC)
I'm glad you don't condone vandalizing CP. I find vandalism to be a massive waste of time. CP ignores attempts to actually improve the site, so I've never attempted vandalism, parody, nor even sincere pleas to stop making a site full of sheer garbage -after all, these actions merely reinforce the belief Conservapedia is doing the right thing!
If you wanted to vandalize, you have every right in the world to do so -RW has no method of stopping you. I have no method of stopping you, and do not represent RW in any way shape or form, anyway. I interpreted your edit as a reminder of that, which was why I deleted mine and yours.
Our two edits were cruft on a position the site has already settled: Ken deserves no special protection, and RW doesn't encourage vandalism.
You are certainly well within your rights to mock Ken here -RW condones and encourages that. I believe it to be distasteful. I understand you dislike Ken, and his edits, and I agree with that. Ken writes ugly, awful things. There's something horribly wrong with Ken. Rest assured, anyone who reads Ken's essays and agrees with them probably has something wrong with them, as well. I might be an optimist, but I'm pretty sure Ken's audience is not nearly as receptive as we fear it to be. --TheLateGatsby (The end of the dock ) 19:11, 26 August 2013 (UTC)
No problem, misunderstood you it seems. Peace--Mercian (talk) 19:34, 26 August 2013 (UTC)
I did not explain myself clearly, and will be more careful in the future. Peace. --TheLateGatsby (The end of the dock ) 19:43, 26 August 2013 (UTC)


Is there any chance you can archive the Duncan talk-page and lock it. It would be quicker than some kind of vote for deletion. Doing this would stop the troll quicker. Thanks. — Unsigned, by: Skeptic Jon / talk / contribs


I've been chipping away and I see you have too - do you know how many more links we have to do?--ADtalkModerator 21:29, 25 October 2013 (UTC)

998 or so from this batch, maybe another 2,500 after that? Who cares? We're clearly the dweebs for giving a damn. TheLateGatsby (The end of the dock ) 21:48, 25 October 2013 (UTC)
Well, at twenty or thirty a week, we should finish sometime next year... so we have that to look forward to!--ADtalkModerator 21:39, 29 October 2013 (UTC)

Mop and bucket stuff.[edit]

When you're responding to an unsigned post on a talk page, please take a second to add the "unsigned" template, and maybe to drop the "welcome" and "sign" templates on the user's page if they're new. Thanks. PowderSmokeAndLeather: Say something once, why say it again?.Moderator 18:23, 8 November 2013 (UTC)

Sorry, that was careless of me. As for the welcome tag, is there a point? --TheLateGatsby (The end of the dock ) 19:21, 8 November 2013 (UTC)
Being more welcoming > being less welcoming? PowderSmokeAndLeather: Say something once, why say it again?.Moderator 04:04, 9 November 2013 (UTC)
Fair enough, there's no harm in trying -not as if they literally slap away hands extended in welcome. --TheLateGatsby (The end of the dock ) 06:23, 9 November 2013 (UTC)


Did you mean to take so much out? Tyrannisan iron, yet caring fist 14:14, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

Definitely not; I fixed it now. Thank you for bringing it to my attention. --TheLateGatsby (The end of the dock ) 14:19, 27 June 2014 (UTC)
No worries :) Tyrannisan iron, yet caring fist 14:23, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

Found the letter?[edit]

Truth: I'd looked for that too many times and was debating editing it out. Good find! MarmotHead (talk) 14:57, 22 July 2014 (UTC)

Thank you. Keep up the good work! --TheLateGatsby (The end of the dock ) 13:28, 23 July 2014 (UTC)


On the grounds that we've never had another election but mc is inactive, with you being the first alternate, you get to be a moderator. Enjoy the lack of any change besides maybe what buttons you can change on people--Miekal 14:07, 3 August 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for telling me. I have added the appropriate pages to my watchlist. --TheLateGatsby (The end of the dock ) 13:32, 4 August 2014 (UTC)

On the subject of moderation[edit]

You have been nominated for reelection. You will need to indicate your acceptance if you intend to run. WalkerWalkerWalker 06:52, 3 November 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for bringing it to my attention. --TheLateGatsby (The end of the dock ) 17:04, 18 December 2015 (UTC)