User talk:Balaam/Archive 1

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Welcome ta pirate wiki. We be havin' ourselves a grand time. Yarr. Тy^Talk. 21:30, 23 March 2011 (UTC)

Alan O'Reilly

Hello there. You may want to weigh in here about the new article you created. Thank you. The Goonie Punk ^{Can't sleep, clowns will eat me!} 14:47, 25 March 2011 (UTC)

Sysop

Three days? Pulse? Not a vandal? Well, sir, you have earned a sysopship! Here's the guide, feel free to ask about anything. Blue (is useful) 18:48, 25 March 2011 (UTC)

Hi

Interesting stuff at Islamic Awakening. We're sometimes criticized for being too anti-christian and not doing enough stuff on Islamic cranks. But do you have any info on the official stance of the website rather then on the individual opinions of the nutty members?--Bob^{Spring is sprung!} 21:10, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

The main body of the site seems to be comprised of articles sent in by readers, so it's pretty loose, but I added a new section on evolution which covers an official press release by the site. There's some good crazy in the articles, but you have to wade through a lot of doctrinal waffle to get to it. Balaam (talk) 06:57, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

Islamophobia

You motherfucking Islamophobe fucker, there are lots of fucking anti-Islam wingnuts there. You can creating some fucking articles on those fuckers, but you chose some fringe Muslim groups that do not represent mainstream Islam to make Islam look bad. Your attempt has made a disappropriate coverage of Islam related articles here. --Allah hu akbar (talk) 12:01, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

Meh, I also made articles mocking anti-Islam people such as Alan O'Reilly and Stephen Lennon. Seems balanced enough to me. Balaam (talk) 12:41, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

Hi Baljit. Just read the comments above. If you're getting that kind of abuse you must be doing something right.--Bob^{Spring is sprung!} 19:24, 15 July 2011 (UTC)

Now, where's the next demographic I can piss off? Balaam (talk) 20:05, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

Sikhs? Тy^{Please do not click on this} 20:07, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

Who wants to bet this guy is another sock of MC? Anyways, in the States Sikhs are often getting confused with Muslims and thus killed. Totally worth an article.--User:Brxbrx/sig 20:09, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

Pagans?--Bob^{Spring is sprung!} 11:42, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

I'm right on it. Balaam (talk) 12:00, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

Ah yes, so you are. You know that we have at least one Odinist on site? Not that it should make us pull any punches obviously, and I'm sure that he does not subscribe to any deeply profound nuttiness.--Bob^{Spring is sprung!} 12:45, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

Koran

Are you intending upon covering all of it, like we do the bible? Тy^Talk. 17:43, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

I'm focusing on the weirder bits for now, although covering the whole thing could be a long-term goal. I think most of it should be left to people whoa re more familiar with the subject, though... Balaam (talk) 17:46, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

Okay, I'm making Category:Qu'ran then. Тy^Talk. 17:48, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

Race war

I'm adding all the various racial conspiracy theories to your race war article, but most of my knowledge is mostly of the American brands, so you might want to check it out and add more of the Brit/EU variety if it's too specific to the US. Nebuchadnezzar (talk) 22:39, 23 July 2011 (UTC)

Breivik

Thanks for your reasonable, even-handed and totally sane work on the ABB article. P-Foster_{The French Revolution was neither French nor a Revolution. Discuss.} 16:46, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

No problem. Balaam (talk) 17:17, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

Loon Watch

Here's a web site that looks a bit closer to what Islamophobia Watch should have been. Nebuchadnezzar (talk) 00:46, 9 August 2011 (UTC)

For writing so much

For demonstrating exemplary goatery in the line of duty, Ty has awarded you some beer. Look it has a goat on the label!

Тай^{говорить} 19:52, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

Yay beer! Balaam (talk) 19:53, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

Eurabia

You could probably have some fun with my new stub. Nebuchadnezzar (talk) 09:41, 17 September 2011 (UTC)

• Hmm, I remember reading a good article about that somwhere recently... but I forget where. Balaam (talk) 17:24, 18 September 2011 (UTC)

Expose Others and Be Exposed Yourself

Balaam/Baljit,

You have gone out of your way to not only ridicule Wodens Folk, a genuine indigenous English folk religion[whose adherents are protected by legislation from discrimination]but you have gone out of your way to make an enemy out of me-not a very wise thing to do as I am not the `forgiving` type. Indeed I believe in paying back in kind for any insult or damage that is done to me. I will give you 24 hours to remove any reference to Wotans Krieger/Wulf V/Arahari/Aryan Lord/Wulf Veldasson from your article or face the consequences. Like a coward you hide behind your anonymity whilst exposing others. You will not be able to hide your anonymity much longer. ^{— Unsigned, by: WotansKrieger / talk / contribs}

So is that what this is about? Tmtoulouse (talk) 21:15, 8 October 2011 (UTC)

There is only one God and YHWH is his name. Damo^Hi 21:21, 8 October 2011 (UTC)

Uh-oh, someone's riled up the 101st chairborne again. Nebuchadnezzar (talk) 21:44, 8 October 2011 (UTC)

Salman Rushdie has nothing to fear compared to you Balaam. I would advise moving countries. --Damo^Hi 21:59, 8 October 2011 (UTC)

Oh, very well, if it means that much to you. Say hi to Heimdall for me. Balaam (talk) 09:26, 9 October 2011 (UTC)

Just so you know, Mr. Krieger, I complied and removed all of the information about you as you asked: [1]. Since then, Tmtoulouse put it all back: [2] So I guess it's him you should be after now, not me :D Balaam (talk) 09:35, 9 October 2011 (UTC)

And you will never penetrate my mask of internet anonymity. Tmtoulouse (talk) 09:51, 9 October 2011 (UTC)

But anyways, just so that something productive can come out of this, perhaps you can explain exactly what it is about our Woden's Folk article that you object to. Do you feel that it is inaccurate? Then point out the inaccuracies and we can look into it. Do you feel it violates your privacy? Well, unless "Wulf Veldasson" is your real name, all it does is reprint snippets of messages that you posted online under various pseudonyms for public viewing. Do you feel that the article violates UK discrimination law? I'm afraid that merely criticising a religion does not constitute discrimination.

Or are you just objecting because it casts you in a negative light? Well, lots of people have been criticised by RationalWiki, a number of them have found out, and most seem to react by shrugging, maybe grumbling on their blogs, and moving on. Very, very few resort to the kind of sabre-rattling that you've fallen back on here. Have you stopped to consider how silly you're making yourself look? Balaam (talk) 15:13, 9 October 2011 (UTC)

It's no use crying Arthur Jackson of 47 Railway Cuttings, Balham. Your days of internet anonymity as Balaam are over. Генгис^{Our ignorance is God; what we know is science.} 15:23, 9 October 2011 (UTC)

Arthur Jackson? You mean the Arthur "Two Sheds" Jackson? Nebuchadnezzar (talk) 16:32, 9 October 2011 (UTC)

Yes. Генгис^{Our ignorance is God; what we know is science.} 17:19, 9 October 2011 (UTC)

Balaam/Baljit

Balaam, Baljit,

Thank you for attempting to remove my details from the article. I notice however that the owner of this site has reinstated the said details. I do not hold you now responsible for this as you attempted to put things right as best as you could. Consequently I am no longer interested in exposing your identity. It is a shame that Toulouse should seek to have my identity publicly exposed in this manner and I regard this as an infringement of my right to privacy. I wonder how he would feel if people started doing a little digging about him? It would seem that there is one rule for "liberals" and another for those who are not ashamed of their race.

Regards

Wotans Krieger ^{— Unsigned, by: 85.211.53.226 / talk / contribs} 20:43, 10 October 2011 ()

Toulouse,

What I object to is the following:

1. That anonymous posters on forums such as this should seek to expose the real[or what they consider to be the real] identity of other Internet users. Anybody that does this should themselves be exposed. Tit for tat as we say in England. As Balaam has sought to undo his mischief I can ask no more from him. The real fault lies with you, the site owner who has the authority to remove these personal details but refuses to do so.

2. Your article ridicules an authentic expression of an indigenous Germanic religion-a religion which is held sincerely now by many people in northern Europe.

3. Your article is inaccurate. You are under the impression that I am a leader in Wodens Folk. I hold no such office and I am not authorised to act as a spokesman for the organisation. Any comments that I have made about our religion have been my personal views only. I have always made this clear. Wodens Folk is non-political and its members can hold whatever opinions it likes. These opinions have nothing to do with Wodens Folk. By devoting such a large part of the article to me you are deliberately giving the impression that my views are typical of the organisation itself or its individual members. Instead of publishing my personal opinions you would do better focusing on the organisation`s teachings and find fault with them if that is your intention.

By the way you can threaten me with the "authorities" as much as you like -I don`t give a fuck but when my identity is publicly exposed for thousands to read without my consent I reserve the right to do the same thing to the exposer. I make no apologies for that but I would have more respect for a man who did this without hiding behind their own anonymity. I am no longer interested in Balaam-he has tried to make amends and I respect that.[in a non-christian way]. He and people like him are merely puppets in your game. ^{— Unsigned, by: 85.211.53.226 / talk / contribs} 21:03, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

1. Yes I have gone out of my way to cover up my identity.

1. Our article ridicule all kinds of beliefs both religious and secular that are held sincerely by the gullible. Welcome to RationalWiki!

1. Inaccuracies are one thing, bring them up on the article talk page and we can work together to create a more accurate article. Check out RationalWiki:Guide for individuals or companies we cover first.

Tmtoulouse (talk) 21:23, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

Any issues with the article need to be brought up on that article's talkpage. I have no idea on the details so I can't comment on whether you have a case or not. I wouldn't hold out hope on things being removed simply because some people are offended by what they say. Damo^Hi 21:25, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

Fair call on the "leader" complaint. You identified yourself as the "warder" of the "Northlands Gemoot", and I took "leader" to be an everyday English translation. I've since changed it to "warder" in the article. As for implying that your views represent the group, well, the article does contain a line reading "However, he stresses that this is his own view, and not necessarily the position of Woden's Folk". Perhaps the section on you is a little long - maybe someone can add more details about Troy Southgate to balance it.

I must say, I'm still a little baffled as to where you're coming from with this talk of "exposure", though. If we'd given out your real name I would agree that we'd gone too far, but unless I'm mistaken, all of the names it associates with you are pseudonyms.

As for ridiculing this religion, well, we've ridiculed plenty of other religions, so I wouldn't say we're discriminating. Balaam (talk) 21:36, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

Well thanks for that small edit Balaam!! My main concern about the article is that it in part-a significant part portrays the teachings of Wodens Folk via the lens of my Internet articles over a long period of time on disparate web sites and forums and I need to stress that by giving such prominence in the article to my political views it may cause damage to the reputation of the organisation in the eyes of those who may have no political views or those that strongly differ from my own. My work should be treated as the views of a single person not that of an organisation. I really do not see why I should be referred to in the article at all-under any of my identies.

Regards

Wotans Krieger

Make your identity known

Your IP in UK's probably known by authorities. Put a picture of yourself make your identity known. Which religion are you its not fun for all. 17br3 (talk) 15:24, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

I'm not sure what I'd have to worry about from authorities in the UK having my IP, to be honest. As for posting my picture... nah, I'll spare you the suffering.

Oh, and Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster. Balaam (talk) 18:56, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

misunderstand not and know its stressful for all like IA members arent stressful enough to handle already.17br3 (talk) 14:16, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

What on earth are you on about? Balaam (talk) 18:42, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

http://mail.rationalwiki.com/wiki/Forum:Change_username%3F are you a non practicing Christian?17br3 (talk) 14:16, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

The issue has yet to be clarified. Balaam (talk) 09:41, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

then clarify it make the issue clear instead of inventing tales,getting others blamed,taking from others etc.17br3 (talk) 15:22, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

It's you who needs to be clarifying, really. What tales have I invented? Who have I gotten blamed? What have I taken from people? Balaam (talk) 16:33, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

oh come on you have edited a controversial article on Islamic Awakening Website then you have used a controversial username Balaam.Make your identity known especially which religion are you?.This is a serious matter.Have you any idea of way that Website is influencing others.you can pretend. 17br3 (talk) 11:22, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

Church of the FSM, as has been pointed out. ^{d hominem} 11:37, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

I honestly have no idea what's going on here. Radioactive afikomen ^{Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments.} 11:39, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

I'm not entirely sure what's controversial about the name "Balaam". Does it mean something obscene in whatever your first language is, or something? Balaam (talk) 19:52, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

this is not a joke its like eyes on fire for others due to that website.its that stressful it then there are guys like you who edit articles take names of Biblical figures adding to stress and confusion.17br3 (talk) 16:30, 6 March 2012 (UTC)

What website set whose eyes on fire now? Balaam (talk) 18:18, 6 March 2012 (UTC) what is wrong with you dont you get the backing behind that Website what you said on this talk page that readers send articles to that Website can be used as false testimony against you is it all a joke for you and others.17br3 (talk) 16:46, 7 March 2012 (UTC)

You make less sense with every post. Balaam (talk) 18:52, 7 March 2012 (UTC)

its what others give significance to there shouldnt be fear of legal case or whatever there is fear of.Earlier that Website Forums were for Authorities and Agencies to gather information before Google crawled the Forums like 6 months back making that Website popular.You know whats hinted at by that Website right?17br3 (talk) 12:28, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

I concur, this makes no sense. English is not your native language, is it?--ZooGuard (talk) 12:43, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

after that Website you forget what you say today the day there after so what does my launguage even matter. on that Website some guys post continuously then there are those guys who never ever made posts.17br3 (talk) 16:43, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

Can you get someone to translate your posts into coherent English in the future, please? Thanks. Balaam (talk) 21:59, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

earlier also it was the same like way back.I just did Google search for balaam rationalwiki going to some of results seems stressful now because of stalk user picture.I need mental help particular IA members make you imagine.17br9 (talk) 15:03, 15 March 2012 (UTC)

As-Sabiqun

Some of our homegrown Islamic fundies that you can have fun with. Amir Abdel Malik Ali is the leader of the Oakland branch, probably the best-known. Nebuchadnezzar (talk) 19:12, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

Started a stubby stub stub on them. Nebuchadnezzar (talk) 02:37, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

mistakenly referred to Nebuchadnezzar as Christian my apologies. 17br3 (talk) 07:28, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

All things in moderation

Your input is requested here. The Punk Symphony of Noise ^{Your mental puke relief} 15:53, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

IA members

Does given name matter those who have read articles by Zainab Bint Younus should know. Why dont you become IA member ask of her identity debate with them. IA members cant give false testimony they can post about certain matters in half knowledge confusion from their hearts. speaking about whats being posted influence of it can happen depending on person to person. stopping use of internet starting to live in stone age might do.17br5 (talk) 02:07, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

The main reason I haven't signed up at IA to ask about Zainab Bint Younus's identity is because I've never heard of her and don't really care about her identity. As for leaving the Internet and living in the stone age... I'd rather not, although you're welcome to if you want. Balaam (talk) 12:31, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

Got blocked my final edits from this new account.Isnt it coincidence that after all discussion on making your identity known you havent said anything about your religious views.Like its said on IA lies bore others.17br5 (talk) 02:07, 14 March 2012 (UTC) guess different guys say act different. 4th account got blocked 3 times guess Jannah or Paradise of some kind is there [code language]. sorry for bothering you dude. 17br9 (talk) 06:37, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

The problem is that you're not making any sense, not because any 'Jannah' fellow is around. Peter ^{horas non numero nisi serenas} 06:41, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

Actually, my religion's been stated twice. Re-read the conversation. Balaam (talk) 10:08, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

1 question: can a guy or girl lie about their religion and country?yes under compulsion threat possibly but input possible truth you cant ignore. conversation made referrence to third person.17br9 (talk) 06:45, 15 March 2012 (UTC)

A third person was involved? This is getting juicy. Balaam (talk) 14:24, 15 March 2012 (UTC)

Just so you know, it's generally considered bad form to go back and alter comments that have already been replied to so that parts of the conversation no longer make sense. Not that this conversation ever made sense anyway, but you get my meaning. Balaam (talk) 14:43, 15 March 2012 (UTC)

very few might lie about that in certain situations or never.17br9 (talk) 15:19, 15 March 2012 (UTC)