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Welcome[edit]
Herr FuzzyKatzenPotato (talk/stalk) 19:40, 25 July 2015 (UTC)
Meow! You've been whacked with a cat. Take this seriously. Somebody won't let this trout-based warfare settle down without a manufactured escalation of arms. |
catb0t(Totally Not A Bot!) 22:53, 26 July 2015 (UTC)
Loss of information[edit]
He's flatly wrong. Some links:
- Claim CB102 at Talk Origins
- Richard_Lenski#Lenski.27s_long-term_E._Coli_evolution_experiment_and_intelligent_design ([1])
- Nylon-eating bacteria and Peppered moth evolution
- Question 1: How Does Evolution Add Information?
- Types of mutations, some of which add info [2][3][4][5]
Fuzzy "Cat" Potato, Jr. (talk/stalk) 19:55, 25 July 2015 (UTC)
- So, first, welcome to the wiki. I'm Iggles. FuzzyCatPotato beat me to the welcome template and the Lenski bits, so I'm just gonna jump in on the numbers! Bear in mind, I am almost as bad with statistics as I am with biology, but I read this one somewhere.
- Get a six sided die.
- Roll that die. You rolled a 1. Your odds of getting a 1 are 5 to 1. My odds of predicting the 1 are the same. Simple.
- Roll again. You rolled a 2. Your odds of getting a 2 are 5 to 1. Still simple, right? But my odds of having predicted the 2 are 35 to 1, since I got the first prediction.
- Keep rolling. 18 more times. I get every prediction right. The odds of you getting the numbers you get are 5 to 1 individually, but my odds of being right get smaller, and smaller, and smaller, until at roll 20, my odds of being right are 3656158440062975 to 1.
- Now, if this doesn't seem to track, since we're talking about a hypothetical, and anything is possible in a hypothetical, consider the notion that whether I was right or wrong on my predictions, the die was rolled 20 times, and a specific sequence came from it. That specific sequence has the same probability of occurring as me being right on all 20 predictions. If we roll a further 20 times, and keep the sequence going, the odds of you coming out with the sequence that results is 13,367,494,538,843,734,067,838,845,976,575 to 1 (for fun: thirteen nontillion three hundred-sixty-seven octillion four hundred-ninety-four septillion five hundred-thirty-eight sextillion eight hundred-forty-three quintillion seven hundred-thirty-four quadrillion sixty-seven trillion eight hundred-thirty-eight billion eight hundred-forty-three million nine hundred-seventy-six thousand five hundred-seventy-five to one). Astronomic odds, if they were ever found. And yet, they just happened. In the course of ten minutes or less, you will have done something that has a distinct possibility of having never happened before in human history. Just because the odds of it happening are exceptionally slim doesn't mean they're zero. Have fun editing! Iggles (talk) 20:06, 25 July 2015 (UTC)
Forum:Hello[edit]
Could you give this Forum thread a more meaningful name, please?--Arisboch ☞✍☜☞✉☜ 01:00, 9 August 2015 (UTC)