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Hey there, Super Fly. Ace McWickedDisco Jesus 07:04, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

I'm not a fly, I'm a butterfly. Mountain Blue 21:42, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
Mmmmmm, butter! Welcome to the Dollhouse! ħumanUser talk:Human 05:21, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

The Rep Grows Bigger[edit]

You're a sysop Gangstarr. The rep grows bigger. Ace McWickedi9 05:14, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

I am drunk with power now. Mountain Blue 06:32, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

Red Dots[edit]

I am also a red dot in NZ. Are you actually from NZ or a filthy aussie. Ace McWickedi9 07:04, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

I'm European. I just spent most of the last twelve months in NZ and Oz. Christchurch and Sydney, specifically. Doesn't mean I'm not filthy though. Mountain Blue 07:34, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
I am in Wellington, but have spent a load of time in Europe. I am super filthy and godly. Ace McWickedi9 07:36, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
No wai ur filthy like me. Although you could easily be more godly. I generally see myself as being more on the ungodly side. By the way, where does the RW cabal secretly meet to plot their campaigns of lies and deceit? Is there a super sikrit mailing list nobody tells me about? You on Facebook or something? Mountain Blue 13:25, 16 June 2009 (UTC)


Hi there. The best way to make screencaptures in my opinion (assuming you're using Windows) is to use Firefox 3 as your browser, and add the ScreenGrab extension. This gives an icon in your status bar that you can click to copy or save all of a page, just the visible bit or small selection. You can get specialist screencapture software that works on all programs but it's often not free, this method is darn handy if you just need to snag something from CP as it's always there while you're browsing. Redchuck.gif ГенгисIs the Pope a Catholic? 19:42, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Screengrab also appears on the right context menu, and is quite nice indeed. Quick and dirty, if you're running DOS, you can always use shift-print screen to copy the display on your monitor to the scratchpad thing, then just paste it into an image program to clean up and save. ħumanUser talk:Human 23:45, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
Thanks, guys! Khant: Is this Firefox extension the thing that makes all the nice screenshots on the WIGO page, those with the wacky file names? Human: Prt Scr and paste is exactly what I did up to now; I'd just hoped there'd be a way to get around that "clean up" thing. Mountain Blue 10:39, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
Wigo screencaps are made by Capturebot2 -- Nx / talk 10:47, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
Thanks! I'd been looking for Capturebot2 but couldn't find it. Someone pointed me to "CaptureBotII" somewhere; I somehow didn't think of trying the Arabic numeral. Mountain Blue 10:53, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
Screengrab is very nice. I usually "copy" the whole thing and past into PSP to trim etc., but using the "copy" option is also sweet, it takes you to a "save as" window thing. SO it can all be done in 1.5 steps. And if you get more than wanted, you can always edit it later. ħumanUser talk:Human 19:50, 17 June 2009 (UTC)


Hi - I wrote an email (my address: schnacken klammeraffe yahoo punkt com)... larronsicut fur in nocte 16:58, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Too late, punk. I already replied to the From: address in your message. Mountain Blue 10:41, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Fate of CP[edit]

Very funny. You should move that to an essay space thing. And maybe even add voting to validate your "statistics". ;) ħumanUser talk:Human 19:59, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Thank you. I'm not entirely happy with it yet. It somehow can't decide if it wants to be snarky but semi-serious or rather just plain funny. I also suspect the tone my be uneven. I guess I'd have to do some polishing before I could move it. Mountain Blue 10:40, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
Could it be (O the Horror) that CP is exactly where it needs to be, and will remain in circle-the-wagons mode with an article count in the low five figures, and enough of a pretense of trusworthiness and open input (write your own text here, kids, you learn more that way) to fool the intended audience? By intended audience, I mean the tiny fraction of homeschoolers who need reassurance that they are special (and that their world is controllable?)
I admit I don't have a view of it deep or wide enough to defend or deny what I just typed. Sprocket J Cogswell 02:38, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, CP did not survive exposure to the "real world". It is now "under attack from vandals and stuff" and they must guard their precious content meticulously. Meanwhile, what's it cost Andy? $50-100 a month? Chump change for a guy who whores himself out to AAAP (see his 6/5/09 presentation by following links to "what is going on in the world"). ħumanUser talk:Human 02:43, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
I notice you have "the RationalWiki crowd graduate from high school" a few times. It makes me miss the days when the RationalWiki crowd was people that had graduate from high school. - π 04:24, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
I thought most of us had? Ace McWickedi9 05:46, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
Yes, most of us have. However, we still run the RW babysitting service for those in need. For free, I might add. ħumanUser talk:Human 05:49, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Well Said[edit]

Thanks for saying what needed to be said. Rpeh 21:08, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Seconded - a nice but unfortunately futile gesture larronsicut fur in nocte 21:16, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

wow, your comment on AddisonDM's talk page just got oversighted. larronsicut fur in nocte 21:25, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
So did the comment on TK's. Turds. Nutty Roux100x100 anarchy symbol.svgUser:Nutty Roux/sigtalk 21:27, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
Caught it:
Oversight in action
pre oversight
post oversight
how petty! larronsicut fur in nocte 21:32, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
That's more than just petty. That's pure evil. Just when you think he can't get any lower... Rpeh 22:04, 19 June 2009 (UTC)


Did you get blocked too? --DogPMarmite Patrol 21:05, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

No. I suspect they tried to, though, because pretty much all of the Realm of New Zealand seemed to have been blocked for a couple hours last night. Good to know they're still reading the WIGO talk. Mountain Blue 23:54, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
I managed to get a major Wellington ISP blocked from editing, though not viewing. Ace McWickedi9 23:59, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
I'm currently on, or “TIS-NZ, Auckland, NZ” in conservative block log parlance. (My first interaction with the Comedians ever was me mailing TK because I couldn't sign up from jetstart (because they had blocked the thing (before I'd even got to NZ, much less done anything)). It's a fascinating little story; TK is really just too fucking stupid to live.) Parts of my clickbot traffic went through a pair of private proxies in Eurasia, however. Mountain Blue 00:29, 6 July 2009 (UTC)


I can't email you it would seem, and I really want too. Opcnup @ that goggle placey thing.

You probably have mail. I'm georg at notomyo dot com, in case I guessed wrong. Mountain Blue 12:42, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

WTF are you doing?[edit]

-- Nx / talk 18:44, 17 September 2010 (UTC)

Took out some trash. Don't worry. mb 18:46, 17 September 2010 (UTC)

CSS Changes[edit]

You said 'the more specific the better' so very quickly, this is what I did (I didn't do much work, just quick tweaks):

in 'consaleaks.css' into I added

background: #d0d0ff;
border: thin solid #b0BbFF;
padding: 0 10px 0 10px;

and I changed the margin

margin-bottom: 20px;

it looks good to me, but not checked in all browsers etc. Worm(t | c) 10:30, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

This is the kind of specific I had in mind. Thanks a lot. I'll see if I can get that uploaded tonight. Mountain Blue 13:08, 15 February 2011 (UTC)


Do you have it enabled? We need to talk. --Ψ Gremlin話しなさい 12:37, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

Yes I have. Mountain Blue 13:06, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
OMG SQUEE is this about The Missing Year? Please let it be about The Missing Year. Mountain Blue 13:10, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
Odd. The "e-mail user" button thingy doesn't appear on the left-hand menu. But then again, it doesn't appear on anyone's user page, now that I check. Maybe I broke the wiki?
Anyway, to answer your question, yes. But as the Google Group has been blown up, the extracts can only be from e-mails, which could be a problem. Would you be able to extract the threads from a normal GMail mail? --Ψ Gremlin講話 13:21, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
Oh well, my email username is georg and my domain is noym dot net. The whole address appears in clickable form at the bottom of every Conservaleaks page in the known universe. I'm pretty positive I could extract the threads from GMail. Of course it's going to be more work though. You may need to allow a few days or so for delivery. Mountain Blue 13:36, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

I can't wait to read the missing files - the snippets sound promising. So, if I can do anything to hasten their publication, just let me know :-) larronsicut fur in nocte 13:10, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. At the moment just getting everything into rough HTML files, like the other originals, then mb's going to fiddle around with getting them into a more user friendly version. I think his side will be the most labour intensive, so if you can help there. Or is this just a sneak plan to have a sneak preview of the Missing Year? :) --Ψ GremlinPrata! 13:21, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
Filtering the files and reformatting them, that's something I can do... Oh, good plan - should have thought of it :-) --larronsicut fur in nocte 13:30, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
Don't worry about the reformatting, guys. The extractor I wrote to get the content out of the Google Groups pages also works on Google Mail. I will spend some time improving site navigation though. Mountain Blue 15:21, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
Great, so I'll wait passively - and patiently :-) larronsicut fur in nocte 15:24, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

Missing stuff[edit]

Hi, I was just browsing conservaleaks and noticed that in there were a couple of Email headers that didn't seem to have any text associated with them:

  • Subject: [6287] Re: brute force dictionary from Karajou
  • Subject: [6298] Re: brute force dictionary from Karajou
  • Subject: [6291] Re: brute force dictionary from JPatt

Could you check to see if you weren't too zealous in cleaning up the code? Ta. Clickbot (talk) 11:47, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

I checked, it's alright. The headers are part of previous messages that the sender of the current message has included but whose message bodies have been removed. It's not a mistake that the bodies are missing; it's a mistake that the headers are still there.
The [6287] line for example refers to the Karajou message immediately preceding the Plourde message the header appears in. The hour parts of the timestamps don't always match because I can't be arsed because of time zone issues. Look at the minutes. Mountain Blue 16:43, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
OK, thanks for the feedback. Clickbot (talk) 23:43, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
Another problem - on this page the link to the next page (Enough!) is broken. Clickbot (talk) 06:50, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
mod_rewrite fail. Going to fix that with the next update, some time this weekend. Mountain Blue 14:57, 4 March 2011 (UTC)


Yew is one. RatMaster háblame 21:36, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

Awesum. Thanks a million. Mountain Blue (talk) 21:58, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

New Linky?[edit]

[1] Is the CPnyom thingy address dead? I'm just wondering about the links we have to it on here... oh and small thing - in the schedule of leaks, you have CG where you should have SDG :) --PsyGremlinPrata! 16:22, 31 August 2011 (UTC)

No, it's not dead, I've only moved the front page. The links we have are alive and well. You will never have to worry about the links. I personally own all the domains, and even if I do have to move the thing at some point I will put the appropriate redirect magic into place. Angry Blue (talk) 16:30, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
Oh and thanks for pointing out the CG thing. Fixing this in a minute. Angry Blue (talk) 16:30, 31 August 2011 (UTC)

Peaceful Blue[edit]

  • set font-style: normal on the tags?
  • work footnote back into body

Saloon Bar[edit]

A bit heavy handed with revision delete? I can see, for maybe one revision, why you might legitimately want to delete it, but the rest I just don't get. And do you really need to hide the username? (((Zack Martin))) 09:56, 1 September 2011 (UTC)

The real solution would be much, much more heavy-handed (because the offending bit has been on there for so many revisions) so I'm going for obfuscation. I know it looks chaotic but I think I have a reason. Obviously I can't discuss the details on this page. Angry Blue (talk) 10:23, 1 September 2011 (UTC)
If it's the revision I think it is, why not ask a mod to oversight it? (((Zack Martin))) 10:24, 1 September 2011 (UTC)
What about the dozens of revisions between the adding and the removing edit? Oversight all of them? Angry Blue (talk) 10:25, 1 September 2011 (UTC)
If you wanted to hide the comment you removed, you would have to delete all the revisions starting from the one where it was added up to, but not including the one where it was removed. You deleted the revisions starting from where you removed the comment, so that was entirely pointless. Anyway, the comment doesn't really need revisiondelete, there's not a lot of personal info there, and it would cause too much collateral damage. -- Nx / talk 11:49, 1 September 2011 (UTC)
You can't know how much damage the comment can or cannot cause because you don't have any context. I agree burying every revision the comment is on would cause a lot of collateral damage, which is precisely why tried to get away with putting some camo netting on it: remove comment, muddle the water a bit so the removed comment is not immediately obvious from diffs of surrounding versions, make sure to hide my name so the whole thing is not proactively pointed out to people who follow my contributions.
I think it actually might have worked if Maratrean hadn't decided to draw attention to everything on my talk page. Thanks, Maratrean, extremely quick thinking there. I've asked a moderator to oversight the revisions in question because I don't see how merely revision-deleting them is going to be enough to prevent the disaster now.
Angry Blue (talk) 12:28, 1 September 2011 (UTC)
I wouldn't worry. It almost certainly only makes sense to you and the person involved. The only amusing thing is your complete kenning throughout. CrundyTalk nerdy to me 12:59, 1 September 2011 (UTC)
I do worry. I have my reasons. As for the kenning, I blame the drinking habit. Angry Blue (talk) 13:31, 1 September 2011 (UTC)
The use of revisiondelete only draws attention to the comment. I say leave it and let it fade away. -- Nx / talk 19:15, 1 September 2011 (UTC)