Essay talk:Video games are bad

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So much facts[edit]

There are just so many facts in here it hurts my eyes, I think I need to take a break every hour reading this. C6541 (TC) 16:20, 16 September 2012 (UTC)

Wow... This essay... Just... Wow... The days of video games being the domain of 12 year-olds are long past. The average gamer is between 25 and 35 now. The majority of games are made for the demographic most likely to play them. Giving a child a game like Grand Theft Auto or Mortal Kombat (games that are now old or downright ancient, respectively) for Christmas is absolutely no different to giving a child a film like Debbie Does Dallas. Further, there has never been any credible evidence that shows a causal link between violence and the playing of violent video games. All of the research done on this subject has come to the same conclusion - that there is no link between violent behaviour and violent games. This myth belongs in the same category as "playing Dungeons and Dragons leads to devil worship" and "listening to heavy metal leads to suicide". Sokar (talk) 03:19, 28 November 2012 (UTC) They have also been shown to improve hand eye coordination. Bazer63 (talk)

Little kids and moron adults who refuse to move out of mommy's house play video games. This is an obvious truth. When married men make them mistake of playing video games, the marriage terminates. Is this really a hard concept to understand? --Elvis is King (talk) 03:30, 12 November 2014 (UTC)
I think my irony detector just broke... can't decide if this guy is serious or not. Nullahnung (talk) 09:17, 12 November 2014 (UTC)
I am serious. Grown men playing video games is destroying the family by resulting in men neglecting their real life responsibilities in childrearing and work, and often results in health problems that can lead to premature death. --Elvis is King (talk) 01:25, 13 November 2014 (UTC)
I happen to know quite a few counter examples of productive, health-conscious adults with video games as a hobby, so excuse me if I find it difficult to believe that you are being serious. Nullahnung (talk) 09:27, 13 November 2014 (UTC)
These people do not exist; they have mental health issues and are trying to escape reality. Only children and adult males with severe issues will be inclined to play video games. --Elvis is King (talk) 00:58, 14 November 2014 (UTC)

I actually don't disagree with a lot said in this essay, though I don't think exposing kids to 'obscene' language is particularly worrisome. While there are some words that are deeply hurtful that kids don't need to be hearing, I don't see how words like "shit" or "fuck" would 'cause damage' to children. (talk) 01:59, 13 November 2014 (UTC)

Were you both influenced by this charming fellow: Jack Thompson in some way? Video games don't by themselves cause or promote violence. Studies have repeatedly disproven such a connection. I thought everybody knew that. Nullahnung (talk) 09:10, 13 November 2014 (UTC)
As a non-American young adult, I'm pretty sure I haven't been influenced by this Jack Thompson person you speak of. Is he one of those people claiming video games are the only/main cause for school schootings or something silly like that? I do think that (some) video games, along with other popular media, contribute to the increasing normalization/popularization (and sometimes glorification) of violence in our society, however. While I doubt anyone committing gruesome acts in the virtual gaming world would develop a motivation to commit such acts in the real world just from the act of playing games, I don't think it'll have a very good influence on their behaviour either. Unless perhaps if they consciously use it as an outlet for violent urges that already existed prior to them taking up the habit of gaming. (talk) 12:37, 13 November 2014 (UTC)
Video games are the problem. All modern American mass shooting stories report these young men having played violent video games, and trends of violence among males who play video games shows how they affect the well being of themselves. One simply has to keep an open mind and realize that video games are the major cause of the violent attitudes of these young men. After playing a round of Grand Theft Auto they gain a thirst for violence and start cussing like sailors. I have seen this in my own neighborhood. --Elvis is King (talk) 00:58, 14 November 2014 (UTC)
They result in the tainting of these kids' minds and being young and impressionable, they tend to repeat these words. --Elvis is King (talk) 02:01, 13 November 2014 (UTC)
Sure, but how are these kids' minds worse off by knowing certain words for concepts that they already knew about - poo and that icky stuff mom and dad do sometimes? Do the words have some magical properties that brings whoever knows and uses them closer to moral decadence? (talk) 02:09, 13 November 2014 (UTC)
If they know these things, they will repeat them. It is all about worldview. If they hear these things, it leaves a certain impression that they are okay and accepted, which leads to inevitable moral decay. --Elvis is King (talk) 02:37, 13 November 2014 (UTC)
Don't plenty (adult) devout Christians also use those words, though? Are they infected with moral decadence then, or might this supposed connection between words like "fuck" and "shit" and a hedonistic non-Christian worldview just be a superstition? (talk) 02:45, 13 November 2014 (UTC)
It is merely the truth. The Scriptures say that one is to use clean and undefiled speech, so these persons are obviously sinning by using such foul and reprehensible language. It is simple, really. One just has to consider that there is none of this sort of vulgarity in the Scriptures, so there is no need for God-fearing persons to defile their vocabulary. Aside from the Biblical authority, it simply sounds crass and unprofessional and children need not use or hear it. --Elvis is King (talk) 02:48, 13 November 2014 (UTC)

Troll Doxys Midnight Runner (talk) 13:37, 13 November 2014 (UTC:)

Please refrain from this anti-intellectual stupidity on this and other pages, because it makes you look like a childish fool. You can go to Uncyclopedia if you want to be a childish fool, okay? --Elvis is King (talk) 20:27, 26 November 2014 (UTC)
Troll Herr FuzzyKatzenPotato (talk/stalk) 04:07, 27 November 2014 (UTC)
You are really an ignorant teenager who should go on Uncylcopedia if that is all you have to attempt to refute those who disagree with your ultraliberal worldview. --Elvis is King (talk) 18:30, 27 November 2014 (UTC)

Wow. Such rightness. Many agrees.[edit]

Your idiotic attempt at trolling people wonderful essay on some bullshit that sounds scarily like right-wing rhetoric important social issue is a brain-dead SJW attempt to get a rise out of people excellent way to examine the non- harm that these evulz do to people. After all, it's not like modding communities exist or anything. --Madman (talk) 20:35, 26 November 2014 (UTC)The Madman

I am merely attempting to expose the evils of the world. Video games are an evil which promote violence, stupidity, illiteracy, sexualization of women, profanity, and other forms of iniquity which are bringing down the world slowly, but surely. --Elvis is King (talk) 21:26, 26 November 2014 (UTC)
I do not even know how this stupidity can be justified. Get a life, James. --Colonel Sanders (talk) 21:47, 26 November 2014 (UTC)
He is right. We need to get away from video games and back to hacking at peasants and heretics with battle axes after crushing people's bones with maces. Depictions of, and watching actual, violence never existed before video games. If only the government could restrict what we see, hear, and read to never suffer this again. EmeraldCityWanderer (talk) 21:55, 26 November 2014 (UTC)
I am simply tired of this garbage in our society. It is completely deplorable and reprehensible. Whatever happened to modesty and decency? We have become a society of ungrateful narcissistic evil profane sexually deviant illiterate drug abusing moronic imbeciles! --Elvis is King (talk) 22:04, 26 November 2014 (UTC)
And we jaywalk too! --TiaC (talk) 23:59, 26 November 2014 (UTC)
Seriously, anyone who disagrees with you morally is an "ungrateful narcissistic evil profane sexually deviant illiterate drug abusing moronic imbecile"? Maybe you should get some help in your strawmanning of people you don'tlike. I've seen and read things from centuries ago that are more profane than anything we produce today. The Bible itself involves genocide and killing of small infants along with sexual deviancy that would never get to market in book/movie form. Should we keep the Bible since it is so profane as well? EmeraldCityWanderer (talk) 01:56, 27 November 2014 (UTC)
Yes, because you all are ignorant fools who need to be saved and see the light of the Lord. The Bible is God's word, and is divinely inspired by Him. These truths in it are there to display how harmful a decadent liberal lifestyle is. --Elvis is King (talk) 18:30, 27 November 2014 (UTC)
The Bible is the word of God so we should murder homosexuals, unruly children and people who cut the sides of the hair and beard? EmeraldCityWanderer (talk) 16:40, 1 December 2014 (UTC)
That's what the Bible says. --Elvis is King (talk) 04:25, 2 December 2014 (UTC)
So, what video games did the catholic church play when they started the Spanish Inquisition? What video games inspired the Nazi Party to build the concentration camps? My point to the writer of this "essay" is this- video games are meant to be fun and another point is not all gamers live at home. There are plenty of people who don't play video games but watch TV non-stop and another thing, just because an adult plays a video game does not mean they live at home. If someone lives at home with their parents, they may have other reasons than not wanting to leave the nest (figure of speech)- disability, financial hardship or it is just easy financially to live at home but still go to work. To say only adults who live at home play video games or video games inciting violence is pure ignorance.--Rationalzombie94 (talk) 21:51, 3 October 2015 (UTC)

Proposed see also section[edit] (talk) 21:32, 26 November 2014 (UTC)

What? The first four are terrible abominations against the Lord, and the last is irrelevant. --Elvis is King (talk) 21:34, 26 November 2014 (UTC)
Ok, now I want to call Poe.--TiaC (talk) 00:29, 27 November 2014 (UTC)
Call him, then. --Elvis is King (talk) 18:30, 27 November 2014 (UTC)


lol no Herr FuzzyKatzenPotato (talk/stalk) 23:17, 30 November 2014 (UTC)

So, you support vandalism and abuses of power by bacon eating, Swift loving imbeciles? --Elvis is King (talk) 03:22, 2 December 2014 (UTC)

So, you hate America? Herr FuzzyKatzenPotato (talk/stalk) 03:49, 2 December 2014 (UTC)

Hahahaha, now bacon and a quickie is unamerican and against god? Now I know this is a Poe. Thanks for the laugh.  :-) EmeraldCityWanderer (talk) 03:54, 2 December 2014 (UTC)

I oppose this farce. Bacon is bad for you, thus God prohibited it, and Chicken Boy is madly in love with Swift, therefore completely unable to be in charge of any site. He vandalized the title of my essay and protected it so I can't move it back. You condone bacon eating, Swift loving, and petty vandalism? --Elvis is King (talk) 03:59, 2 December 2014 (UTC)

Now son I raised you better than hangin' around on some ra-shun-ul wiki full'a commies an' foreigners and suchlike. You get back t'practisin' yer shootin' fer when them russkie paratroops comes a-droppin' in, else by gosh I'll tan yer hide redder'n that darn president! Elvis'is Dad (talk) 04:09, 2 December 2014 (UTC)
So, you are going to continue to vandalize and act like smarmy, petty teenagers and worship cured porks and talentless "singers?" What happened to rational, logical, intelligent discussion? --Elvis is King (talk) 04:25, 2 December 2014 (UTC)
Y'all know darn well tha'only een-telligent dis'cussin is in tha' Bahbul. Elvis'is Dad (talk) 04:33, 2 December 2014 (UTC)
It contains all the answers. --04:35, 2 December 2014 (UTC)
I must have missed the bit relating to car maintenance and small engine repair. Just can't seem to find it anywhere. Or the table of trig ratios. Mine must be abridged from the original.--Maxus (talk) 04:38, 2 December 2014 (UTC)
Maybe you missed the readings of God's word and the fundamental, sound, unquestionable truths it contains. Are you in cahoots with Chicken Boy? --Elvis is King (talk) 04:40, 2 December 2014 (UTC)
Don't y'all talk t'him, son, he's been readin' communism an' drinkin' the marijuana. Elvis'is Dad (talk) 04:44, 2 December 2014 (UTC)
I resent that accusation. I am a young man who doesn't drink, do drugs, or smoke cigarettes, and I get seven to eight hours a sleep a day. I spent Thanksgiving helping my elderly, disabled aunt attend the celebration at her son's house so she could see her three grandchildren, and I'm organizing my co-workers to collect money for our boss's recent bereavement (her oldest daughter died of complications from lupus). I do not cahoot, and I have never cahooted, you small-minded paranoid little man. 'Apologize and mean it.
I read the Bible cover to cover. The story of the Fall of Man and the Tower of Babel indicate God's afraid of humanity, Exodus shows he used to be pretty touchy (though I like the idea of God's Butt as a precedent for conceding a small piece of information to someone even if they can't have the whole thing), the sections on the Judges and Kings are good reading with lots of massacres and smiting and characters. Job got a raw deal, though. Then God had a kid and softened up--for the best, I believe--and Jesus seemed pretty cool. Didn't see anything where he denounced homosexuality--that was back in Leviticus with all the dire promises that eating oysters and rare steak will bring upon you boils and plagues and diverse ill fortune. Jesus had a lot to say about divorce, though. And paying your taxes and being a good citizen, for some reason. And then Revelations, well, it seems John the Revelator only had mushrooms to eat. Heaven sounds kinda garish, but I'll give benefit of the doubt because of the mushrooms.--Maxus (talk) 04:55, 2 December 2014 (UTC)
Aw, darn, Colonel. Shame you blocked him. Well, it's nighttime. We could all do with some sleep. Unless you work the evening shift like I do. --Maxus (talk) 04:57, 2 December 2014 (UTC)
Little Jimmy needed a nap. He was getting really cranky. Going on about bacon and Taylor Swift like he usually does. You know he was a Conservapedia sysop right? --Colonel Sanders (talk) 05:02, 2 December 2014 (UTC)
I've seen just a mention on something like that, but couldn't bring to mind the details. Which one? Not that it matters, really...I'm sure he'll feel better after a night's sleep and a good breakfast. --Maxus (talk) 05:05, 2 December 2014 (UTC)
He was User:JamesWilson, blocked for being too extreme for Conservapedia. He said that all non procreational sex is fornication, even between a heterosexual married couple. He's nuts and hopefully he does and doesn't rant against bacon, Taylor, and video games. --Colonel Sanders (talk) 05:14, 2 December 2014 (UTC)
I love crusaders against sex, since if they can't get any then no one else should. He sounds more like the morality police from the taliban. EmeraldCityWanderer (talk) 16:07, 2 December 2014 (UTC)
I am simply telling the truth that liberals wish to censor because they are inconvenient. It is obvious that the website you mention isn't conservative enough, not declaring the truth and that sexuality is a dirty evil created by Satan after the Fall of Man in order to tempt human beings to get away from God. I would not trust Chicken Boy, since he is a tyrant who abuses his authority, and also is a moronic man-child who incessantly drools over Taylor Swift and bans me every time I call him out on it. Are you going to side with a steward of the truth, or some imbecile? --Elvis is King (talk) 01:52, 3 December 2014 (UTC)

Original title[edit]

Can someone please move the essay back to its original title? It is a very important social issue. --Elvis is King (talk) 20:07, 14 June 2015 (UTC)

Not really, there is this thing called teaching kids the difference from reality from fiction. I played violent video games as a kid but never got in trouble with the law or killed people for that matter. You are very irrational and I admit I have made mistakes on this wiki that pissed off other users but you take the cake. You are much worse than I am.--Rationalzombie94 (talk) 21:59, 3 October 2015 (UTC)

This essay is now in Drive-by mode[edit]

And here is a Mario is disappointment for this thing existing.

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Obviously, age ratings don't matter because we all know Mario Kart, Mario Party, Risk, and Russian roulette are far more violence-inducing games. --It's-a me, Lgm sigpic.png LeftyGreenMario!(Mod) 01:10, 7 January 2018 (UTC)

Because of Super Mario Bros., I jump on turtles on a daily basis.—チーズバーガー • めん Spinning-Burger.gif (talkstalk) 01:13, 7 January 2018 (UTC)
Setting people on fire in Grand Theft Auto V doesn't make me any more violent than me stalking and killing Wario mercilessly in Mario Kart 8. I have pretty much the same levels of aggression and satisfaction from accomplishing those actions, despite the settings in both games being drastically different. БaбyЛuigiOнФire(T|C) 01:15, 7 January 2018 (UTC)
My tendency toward criminal and/or authoritarian actions exists regardless of which game I'm playing, one day I could be a vigilante who beats up criminals the next a space pirate plotting galactic domination. (speaking of which...) Comrade GC (talk) 01:21, 7 January 2018 (UTC)
I generally play a bit more peacefully, but I still get enjoyment out of exterminating zombies and gangsters. Innocent people, not so much. Though again, I feast upon Yoshi and Koopa blood. --It's-a me, Lgm sigpic.png LeftyGreenMario!(Mod) 01:23, 7 January 2018 (UTC)
In Grand Theft Auto V, I can become a law-enforcing cop who looks like Baby Luigi who causes a lot of unnecessary property damage and pedestrian killings in an attempt to arrest criminals without any punishment whatsoever (thanks to several mods). What does that make me? БaбyЛuigiOнФire(T|C) 01:23, 7 January 2018 (UTC)