RationalWiki:Articles for deletion/All non-English articles

All non-English articles | Result: Leave them be for now (some articles deleted or put up for AfD)

Delete

1. We've just dumped two Hungarian-language articles that were created years ago and the abandoned. How about we get rid of the other scrappy foreign stubs that were created various single long-ago users and ignored ever since? (they can be found in Category:Babel. Bicycle^wheel 20:55, 26 November 2015 (UTC)

   Do you want to scrap ALL non-English stuff, or just the crappy ones? I thought that at least the Russian and French sites were sorta active? Carpetsmoker (talk) 21:21, 26 November 2015 (UTC)

   Also, is there a way to get a list of non-English articles? Carpetsmoker (talk) 21:40, 26 November 2015 (UTC)

   what good is leaving one or two random non-english article? Also Russian has its own wiki and doesn't need us.--"Paravant" ^{Talk & Contribs} 22:00, 26 November 2015 (UTC)

2. Even if they aren't stubs, the fact that most of these are random articles with no real effort put into making an actual foreign-language article base means we really have no reason to keep this going. If somebody really wants to make a spanish or arabic RW offshot, they can either put in the effort and get a spinoff like russionalwiki or just make their own wiki.--"Paravant" ^{Talk & Contribs} 21:09, 26 November 2015 (UTC)

   We've currently got 46 articles in languages other than English (34 in French, 6 in Spanish, 3 in Portuguese, 2 in Greek and 1 in Italian). To see the lists, go to Category:Babel and click on the sub-categories. Spud (talk) 06:03, 27 November 2015 (UTC)

3. While I stand by Gerard's goat (see below) regarding taking our time to discuss before making any sudden moves; in principle I agree with Paravant and Bicycle. I think there are good reasons for us to codify english-only in the articles (meaning that non-english sources must "simply" be translated - and not merely machine translated - as they are used). Reverend Black Percy (talk) 06:10, 27 November 2015 (UTC)
4. Plays the ballad of LeandroTellesRocha |₹Λ¥$€₦₦ ^{I AM VERY DISGUSTED WITH THE TRASHY MAN} 12:59, 27 November 2015 (UTC)

   Tempt me not to bring out the writing pen. WalkerWalkerWalker 22:56, 30 November 2015 (UTC)

5. Drop all of them. If there's enough material and editor interest then we should start a new wiki in that language. The current system is just weird. Aleksandra96 (talk) 23:06, 30 November 2015 (UTC)

   Yep. Reverend Black Percy (talk) 04:24, 1 December 2015 (UTC)

Keep all

1. This sweeps with too broad a brush. - Smerdis of Tlön, ^{LOAD "*", 8, 1.} 15:56, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
2. Crappy pages should be deleted on account of being crappy pages, regardless of language (as I did with Sceptycyzm yesterday). I see no reason to delete any non-English page only on account of being non-English. Carpetsmoker (talk) 14:57, 27 November 2015 (UTC)

Keep some

1. Even if we have a moratorium on further non-English entries & delete the stubby/crappy ones, I think some of the early articles, especially the French ones, are good quality & worth keeping. Loi de Poe, for example, shits on the equivalent Wikipedia page. Ŵêâŝêîôîď^{Methinks it is a Weasel} 22:42, 26 November 2015 (UTC)
2. What Weaseloid said. If the articles are above average quality then it would be ridiculous to delete them, no matter what language. Typhoon (talk) 10:56, 27 November 2015 (UTC)
3. This is a rather larger issue than something to put through in an AFD and warrants actual discussion e.g. on the Saloon Bar - David Gerard (talk) 21:35, 26 November 2015 (UTC)
4. My only reason to vote for a blanket deletion would be brand, and I don't think there's enough of an issue there at all. That said, this idea of a moratorium, might, as per Raysenn, be prudent. WalkerWalkerWalker 23:00, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
5. Agreed on warranting an actual discussion rather than a flat purge. ℕoir LeSable (talk) 16:16, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
6. What is there to say against creating language versions? You know, like Wikipedia? Or half of all crappy second rate wikis there are? Avengerofthe BoN (talk) 23:46, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
7. Narky Sawtooth (Nyarnyar~) 04:35, 10 December 2015 (UTC)
8. 141.134.75.236 (talk) 04:51, 10 December 2015 (UTC)

Goat

• Scope clarification: does articles mean mainspace only? WalkerWalkerWalker 23:14, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
• I think that non English articles should be made by people who have some degree of regular and effective communication with the English part of the wiki, if only because it'd be much easier to audit their contents. |₹Λ¥$€₦₦ ^{By the way, 2 divided into 666 is 333} 12:50, 2 December 2015 (UTC)

I certainly approve of that idea, although I think it would probably be impossible to enforce. Mind you, I think LTR was highly unusual in being an editor who didn't have much of a grasp of English and who almost always wrote in his native language on talk pages, in the Bar and everywhere else. Spud (talk) 13:02, 2 December 2015 (UTC)

• Of great concern for me is how we can know what it is we are hosting? It's so fucking provincial to insist on English-only, but how can the community control quality if we literally permit Babel? (I could reasonably read French articles, tho I'd not want to edit them -- my French is just too rusty, having divorced the man I regularly spoke it with almost 20 years ago.)---Mona- (talk) 13:50, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
• It's pretty arrogant to insist on an English-only Wiki, but we need a way to make sure it can be read by native speakers coherently? (I can read German articles to a degree but I'm nowhere near fluent so I don't dare edit them)--Pokefrazer (talk) 15:09, 6 December 2015 (UTC)

Jerboa x Goat

1. Yes plz. Narky Sawtooth (Nyarnyar~) 04:34, 10 December 2015 (UTC)

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