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What is going on? World Blogs Clogs Elections The Bar (talk) (talk) (talk) (talk) (hic) Welcome to RationalWiki, Raysenn! Check out our guide for newcomers and our community standards! Tell us how you found RationalWiki here! If you are interested in contributing: Read what our articles are intended to be Check out the to-do list See our help page and Wikipedia's formatting cheatsheet If writing a new article, consider writing up a draft And most importantly: Pull up a goat and have some fun!

Then I bid you wlecome once again Raysenn! :-)--Bob^{"I think you'll find it's more complicated than that."} 13:31, 26 September 2013 (UTC)

Thanks bro. --Ray's Super Fun Hellhole!^{g͘͡r̸̀a̸̶̡n̶̶͜ţ̡ ̀҉̴̨͡m̀͘͜͢e͡ ̸͟҉̷̢ỳ̸̡̀͞ơ̡̢̡ų̧r̴̀͡͝ ̡҉҉̧̛s̵̕͏̡ǫ̀́͢ų́l̵̕҉} 13:37, 26 September 2013 (UTC)

I see that you know how to do wiki-things.--Bob^{"I think you'll find it's more complicated than that."} 13:49, 26 September 2013 (UTC)

Sysop

Yeah, baby. PowderSmokeAndLeather: Say something once, why say it again?. 14:11, 14 October 2013 (UTC)

Hallelujah! I'd like to thank the academy, my cats, and that pile of sock lint in the corner. --Ray´s Super Fun Hellhole! ^{g͘͡r̸̀a̸̶̡n̶̶͜ţ̡ ̀҉̴̨͡m̀͘͜͢e͡ ̸͟҉̷̢ỳ̸̡̀͞ơ̡̢̡ų̧r̴̀͡͝ ̡҉҉̧̛s̵̕͏̡ǫ̀́͢ų́l̵̕҉} 14:25, 14 October 2013 (UTC)

race denial

why most articles on race have race denial positon please fix thanks very much, go to /pol/ and see about race ^{— Unsigned, by: 174.88.241.18 / talk / contribs 2013-12-21T10:04:53‎}

Who the fuck are you and what the fuck are you doing in my talk page? --Ray´s Super Fun Hellhole! ^{g͘͡r̸̀a̸̶̡n̶̶͜ţ̡ ̀҉̴̨͡m̀͘͜͢e͡ ̸͟҉̷̢ỳ̸̡̀͞ơ̡̢̡ų̧r̴̀͡͝ ̡҉҉̧̛s̵̕͏̡ǫ̀́͢ų́l̵̕҉} 14:25, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

i mean do you believe race exists like any normal person would ^{— Unsigned, by: 174.88.241.18 / talk / contribs}

Race is a social construct. That's all I have to say, please fuck off and stay off my userpage. --Ray´s Super Fun Hellhole! ^{g͘͡r̸̀a̸̶̡n̶̶͜ţ̡ ̀҉̴̨͡m̀͘͜͢e͡ ̸͟҉̷̢ỳ̸̡̀͞ơ̡̢̡ų̧r̴̀͡͝ ̡҉҉̧̛s̵̕͏̡ǫ̀́͢ų́l̵̕҉} 16:04, 29 December 2013 (UTC)

that is incorrect

Don't do that again, please

The last thread you posted on the Saloon Bar. Just don't.--ZooGuard (talk) 14:37, 24 February 2014 (UTC)

??? --Raysenn ^{Get the paddles, he's having a cancer!} 14:46, 24 February 2014 (UTC)

Rolling doughnut

Showing my age with that one. It was an idiom I heard in the sixties, and I suspect it was old even then. I think Steinbeck used something similar in his novels set prior to WWII around Monterey (the one in California.) regards, Sprocket J Cogswell (talk) 01:19, 5 April 2014 (UTC)

"STEM"

What is that? I can only think "science, tech, engineering and maths", or "straight *something* *something* male". Could you please explain what you mean? MESSIAH OF DOOM ^{Impurity is the secret} 06:06, 5 April 2014 (UTC)

In the shittiest circles of Tumblr and LiveJournal, they decided that STEM degrees, being undertaken mostly by straight, white, cis males, are somehow a privilege. And then there are the ones take it even further and say that the fields themselves are invalid because of it (some cite postmodern/critical theory bullshit as a justification, some don't pretend to be scholarly or fair in their critique). Essentially, using identity politics as ammo in the eternal hard science vs soft science interfield pissing contest. --Raysenn ^{Get the paddles, he's having a cancer!} 11:58, 5 April 2014 (UTC)

Ah, I get what you mean. I've even seen a couple of people say that since the majority of scientists are SWCM, science is obviously a conspiracy to oppress all the other less privileged groups, à la bourgeois pseudoscience. I mean, this people really aren't exactly making the social justice movement look good, are they? Oh, and by the way, do you mind if I help out with your draft thingy in your user space, or would you like to work on it by yourself? MESSIAH OF DOOM ^{What is this that stands before me?} 21:06, 5 April 2014 (UTC)

Thankyouthankyouthankyou yes! By all means, please do! Preparing for finals do take a big damn amount of time, and I seriously appreaciate it. --Raysenn ^{Get the paddles, he's having a cancer!} 22:13, 5 April 2014 (UTC)

SJWs

Following on from the last thread thing, would you be able to find some links to some of those posts you saw? I've been searching on Google but haven't found any, and I don't really understand the Tumblrs, so I have no idea how to really find shit. So yeah, that'd be great. THE GREAT RIGHTEØUS DESTRØYER ^{And joyously screams out its pain} 08:54, 5 May 2014 (UTC)

After reading the SJ talkpage

Are we still doing this? \m/ESSIAH 21:08, 17 May 2014 (UTC)

Deleting articles

Deletion debates should last for days, not hours. Our user base spans the globe, where timezones exist, and many regulars actually have jobs and thus do not check in every day. Thanks. Father Vivian O'Blivion (talk) 00:48, 20 May 2014 (UTC)

The debate was more-or-less unilateral, but you're right. I apologize. --|₹Λ¥$€₦₦ ^{Burning this game would be an insult to fire.} 00:50, 20 May 2014 (UTC)

SIgnatures

Many of your signatures are inappropriate. I see that you welcomed a new user with "why are these homosexuals trying to suck my cock" or the like. Fix it or I'll fix it for you. Nutty Roux (talk) 22:37, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

It's a reference to a classic The Onion article, but you're right. I'll fix it. --|₹Λ¥$€₦₦ ^{Advocate for the liberation of Willzyx} 00:10, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

"someone took the image down..."

Give it a few minutes. The wiki has been slow to deal with new images for a little while now. It's there, and will show up for you soon. Father Vivian O'Blivion (talk) 23:34, 24 May 2014 (UTC)

Is this because of the upgrade thingy? --|₹Λ¥$€₦₦ ^{I've got canned heat in my heels tonight, baby} 00:03, 25 May 2014 (UTC)

neeeee Raysenn

Hey I suggested something you might want to work into your SJW page. You are still working on it, right? Perhaps you could move it into mainspace and the rest of us could just contribute to it normally. Hell, it's already more researched than plenty of the mainspace stubs around here as it is. Wehpudicabok [話] [変] [留] 20:14, 16 June 2014 (UTC)

Hmm, I think that we could add an entire section about irritating phrases said by many SJWs. If I get 'round to it, I'll make sure I do that. Also, though you should prolly ask Raysenn yourself, I think he'd be fine with you helping out. I don't think we should put it in main space at this point- there are still a couple of sentences where I would just say "fuck it, I'll finish it later", and while it may be better than many other articles, I do feel that it's not quite up to the standards of a publicly viewable article quite yet. MESSIAH OF DOOM ^{Deaf and blind and dumb and born to follow} 10:28, 17 June 2014 (UTC)

You cunt

I logged myself out, like, 5 times with that talk message box on your userpage. Also, I kinda figured out the intent of "master trole", so yeah. Anyway, I have some biomedical science to attend to. DØØM MĖSSIÅH ^{Cacophonous aura of illness and woe} 14:10, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

You're a med student? Cool! |₹Λ¥$€₦₦ ^{X-Men! Welcome... TO DIE!!!} 14:26, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

Yeah, it's pre' kewl. What are you studying? THE GREAT RIGHTEØUS DESTRØYER ^{Prying open my third eye} 23:57, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

Software Engineering, to b teh true l33t h4xxor. |₹Λ¥$€₦₦ ^{They were trying to combine themselves to form some sort of molestation Voltron} 00:37, 1 July 2014 (UTC)

Ew, computers. MESSIAH OF DOOM ^{Impurity is the secret} 05:13, 1 July 2014 (UTC)

That said, you wouldn't mind programming some form of holographic porno machine, would you? GØØBY PLS ^{Adorn the new king…} 12:54, 1 July 2014 (UTC)

Like this? |₹Λ¥$€₦₦ ^{Because I'm a terrorist!} 13:58, 1 July 2014 (UTC)

Pretty much, yep. MĖSSIÅH ØF DØØM ^{Impurity is the secret} 21:21, 1 July 2014 (UTC)

teh true l33t h4xxor

A media library manager (like the one I use in Clementine) integrated into VLC. Get on it. Father Vivian O'Blivion talk 01:18, 1 July 2014 (UTC)

What? C++, C and the trainwreck that is Objective-C? Sorry mate, my C# and Java skillz ain't cuttin' it. |₹Λ¥$€₦₦ ^{It's just that, for the third year running, you give me a potato.} 16:30, 5 August 2014 (UTC)

"Learn to collapse"

Sorry, I forgot. Just FYI, "Every goddamn thing" is actually the first line of the song, so, yeah… DØØM MĖSSIÅH ^{Play the best song in the world, or I'll eat your soul} 23:15, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

Question

You would not happen to have some form of Facebook account, would you? If so, would you mind terribly friending me? My FB name is "Cal Doommessiah". Any other editors are welcome and encouraged to friend me, as well. I mean, like, you don't have to, but it would be pre' chill if you could. MĖSSIÅH ØF DØØM ^{…Sate the Suicide Choir} 05:24, 5 August 2014 (UTC)

Nay. FB is literally Hitler. |₹Λ¥$€₦₦ ^{A single piece of bread is just an open-face universe sandwich} 16:21, 5 August 2014 (UTC)

Bin

What is the proper way?—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 01:52, 26 April 2015 (UTC)

You could start by not vandal binning IPs. You could follow it by only binning actual vandals. |₹Λ¥$€₦₦ ^{Jet Fuel Can't Melt Steel Beams} 23:09, 26 April 2015 (UTC)

Have a bagel!

You deserve a treat after all you've done and all you've been through in the last 24 hours. Have a slightly nibbled salt beef bagel! By the way, in a more recent Facebook post, LTR does complain about how there are too many Zionists on Wikipedia. I should probably stop looking at his FB page now. If he hasn't named me as one of the Evil Jews who drove him away from RationalWiki in amonth, I will. Anyway, enjoy! Spud (talk) 12:08, 30 April 2015 (UTC)

Thanks, fellow Zionist! Next time I need a partner to some goyim to scam out of their shekels, I know who to ask :D |₹Λ¥$€₦₦

^{Oh hai Anonymous user} 16:59, 30 April 2015 (UTC)

PRODding

When proposing pages for deletion, please don't forget to add the subpage to RationalWiki:Articles for deletion/Log, otherwise they won't show up on the main AFD page.--ZooGuard (talk) 17:22, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

sig

How come your sig has a carriage return in it?—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 23:23, 20 May 2015 (UTC)

I T ' S M A G I C |₹Λ¥$€₦₦ ^{To the pure body, to the perfect existence} 02:42, 21 May 2015 (UTC)

Yeah but it's broken.—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 16:34, 21 May 2015 (UTC)

It's a secret to everybody hands over 50 rupees |₹Λ¥$€₦₦ ^{Anonymous user!Nintendo 64 BAG FUCK} 19:16, 21 May 2015 (UTC)

Seriously though, it only breaks on this very talk page. |₹Λ¥$€₦₦ ^{X-Men! Welcome... TO DIE!!!} 19:19, 21 May 2015 (UTC)

But the carriage return is everywhere.—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 01:34, 22 May 2015 (UTC)

I worked my magicks on this—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 01:36, 22 May 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for introducing me to {{#choose}}.—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 03:17, 24 May 2015 (UTC)

I think I fixed it.—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 03:20, 24 May 2015 (UTC)

Thanks! |₹Λ¥$€₦₦ ^{Open your heart, it's gonna be alright} 01:14, 25 May 2015 (UTC)

Is it really necessary to hide stupid comments and not just delete them?

Why, exactly, is it necessary to hide stupid asholery comments and not just delete them? I "unhid" it because apart from being dickish and sounding like it's coming from a disgruntled teenage bully, it didn't contain personal info and wasn't actually threatening. It was more illustrative of the commenter being a prick than anything else, so why expunge it from the fossil record? ScepticWombat (talk) 12:54, 31 May 2015 (UTC)

Since I was the one who initially removed (but not revdelled, obvsly) the comment, thought I'd share my opinion: It's part of continuing harrassment against Ryulong and there seems little value in keeping it around in the history. That wouldn't make it necessary per se, but it would make it not-particularly-objectionable. For that matter, why is it necessary to review the logs and undo any actions you disagree with? 141.134.75.236 (talk) 13:17, 31 May 2015 (UTC)

What the hell? I was unhiding it. |₹Λ¥$€₦₦ ^{Open your heart, it's gonna be alright} 13:25, 31 May 2015 (UTC)

Shit, I realized I just hiding it instead of unhiding it. Shit. |₹Λ¥$€₦₦ ^{Everybody betray me! I fed up with this world!} 13:27, 31 May 2015 (UTC)

Seems two negatives make a positive then, because it's hidden again. ;) 141.134.75.236 (talk) 13:28, 31 May 2015 (UTC)

tfw

your sig says "FuzzyCatPotato!rabbit BAG FUCK" and I think it's some kind of animal Cømrade FυzzчCαтPøтαтø (talk/stalk) 03:16, 2 June 2015 (UTC)

In case you don't get the reference |₹Λ¥$€₦₦ ^{An excellent entropy} 10:29, 2 June 2015 (UTC)

Doxxing Redditor, huh?

This begins to explain a few things. So, which group is it that you are affiliated with, exactly? KiA? One of the neo-reactionaries? The MRA groups? C'mon, honesty is the best policy. --Castaigne (talk) 00:37, 14 June 2015 (UTC)--Castaigne (talk) 00:37, 14 June 2015 (UTC)

I mentioned some old drama about an editor. |₹Λ¥$€₦₦ ^{Kyubey stares into your soul. /人◕‿‿◕人\} 01:15, 14 June 2015 (UTC)

Also, I was never much of a redditor. I prefer to shitpost in /a/ and /v/ and argue about anime in IRC channels. |₹Λ¥$€₦₦ ^{I like... being punched in the face.} 01:18, 14 June 2015 (UTC)

Removing others sysop bits

You are not empowered to adjudicate the closing of the coop discussion. Do not remove other users sysop bits. Hipocrite (talk) 19:11, 21 June 2015 (UTC)

It was a coop decision and also Ryulong's own volition. |₹Λ¥$€₦₦ ^{Anonymous user, the truth is...} 19:41, 21 June 2015 (UTC)

You are not in a position to determine what the decision of the coop was. Hipocrite (talk) 23:02, 21 June 2015 (UTC)

If Ryu wants, he can ask. The FCP Foundation (talk/stalk) 23:04, 21 June 2015 (UTC)

Users do not need to "ask" to be demoted. I have demoted him. Hipocrite (talk) 23:08, 21 June 2015 (UTC)

About "Rerorerorerorero"

Is that from Kakyoin?--Arisboch (talk) 17:49, 25 June 2015 (UTC)

Yes! Nice to see another JoJo fan is here. |₹Λ¥$€₦₦ ^{Bird don't sing, the wind doesn't blow} 19:57, 25 June 2015 (UTC)

What Gundam timeline would you recommend to watch after I had Universal and Correct Century (Victory Gundam ist SHIT!!)?--Arisboch (talk) 16:14, 2 July 2015 (UTC)

That bit in your sig

Is it an Evangelion reference? Specifically the "the truth is..." one, now that I see you have other bits. 192․168․1․42 (talk) 08:56, 23 October 2015 (UTC)

Cartoons are for children

I mean if you think kids should be watching archer, bojack and the myriad of other adult cartoons sure, alongside saying an adult should find no interest in a show like korra and its coverage of the problems of communism, theocracy and extreme religion, anarchism and fascism, sure! Cartoons are a medium, saying I shouldn't like hunchback because I'm adult and it's a cartoon is stupid --"Paravant" ^{Talk & Contribs} 15:02, 23 October 2015 (UTC)

And that's not even bringing anime into the picture. A vast amount of which absolutely shouldn't be watched by little kids. The notion that drawn media are/should be "just for kids" is a silly Western notion. 141.134.75.236 (talk) 15:20, 23 October 2015 (UTC)

Anime has its own extensive list of problems unrelated to whether it's for children or not. |₹Λ¥$€₦₦ ^{THE TRASHY STROLLING IS AN EYESORE!} 15:25, 23 October 2015 (UTC)

I think that by the context it could be inferred that I clearly meant children's cartoons, but I guess I suck at this communication thing.

But yeah, children's cartoons have a clear target demographic. And you know what happens to 95% of cartoons that try to appeal to the adult periphery demographic and fail to appeal to children? They flop. Ask Sym-Biotic Titan, or 2011 ThunderCats, and also Korra. |₹Λ¥$€₦₦ ^{You know who else erects embryos? MY MOM!} 15:24, 23 October 2015 (UTC)

Ah, Sym-Biotic Titan. The series that took a one-episode side-story from Samurai Jack, humanwashed the aliens, put them in American high school and added in a megazord for good measure. Then it flopped because it went totally overboard with the cutesy heroes battling gritty monsters trope while still trying to play it serious. And if Korra flopped, it's because of Nickelodeon's incompetence. Seriously, they already had a huge fanbase to work with from the very beginning. But why are we judging the quality of shows by how commercially successful they are/were again? Many of the best animes I know are obscure ones. 141.134.75.236 (talk) 16:00, 23 October 2015 (UTC)

Hey now, everything goes back to Samurai Jack. Even a certain show about miniature horses ponywashed a small god and put her in charge of the cast of Azumanga Daioh who moonlight as the Power Rangers. 192․168․1․42 (talk) 09:26, 28 October 2015 (UTC)

Why is my username in your signature?

I hope this doesn't sound too much like I'm being a stalker, but why is my username in (one) of your signatures? Just curious, that's all... I don't think we've ever spoken? – AOAPJM ^(talk) 13:43, 24 October 2015 (UTC)

Raysenn, I really think it's time to remove it. A bit passé now, no?. AOAOPJM, it's a little bit of Javascript. See here. Scream!! (talk) 13:48, 24 October 2015 (UTC)

I would, but it still confuses noobs.|₹Λ¥$€₦₦ ^{Don't they call people like you stalkers?} 17:24, 24 October 2015 (UTC)

Ah ok, thought it would be something like that. Thanks. – AOAPJM ^(talk) 19:49, 24 October 2015 (UTC)

It was a bit late to send me the message

Since I haven't engaged in a war for a while, I'm not sure, what you meant by your block just now. Care to explain? Sorte Slyngel (talk) 23:49, 25 October 2015 (UTC)

Unimportant joke block with no real meaning behind it other than me being bored |₹Λ¥$€₦₦ ^{That rug really tied the room together.} 23:54, 25 October 2015 (UTC)

Ah, that's OK. My feelings precisely. I hope we're both relaxed. I don't know your time zone, but over here („over here“ pretty much applies to the rest of the world :-) it's getting late. Cheeres Sorte Slyngel (talk) 00:06, 26 October 2015 (UTC)

"I'm not sure, what you meant" I recognize this grammar mistake! Arisboch, is that you? ;) 142.124.55.236 (talk) 12:23, 28 October 42015 AQD (UTC)

Nope, I'm not Sorte Slyngel, ya ol Grammar Nazi! I violate the English (and Russian) language in my own way!--Arisboch ☞✍☜☞✉☜ ∈)☼(∋ 14:22, 28 October 2015 (UTC)

I'll admit that this is a belated question, but I'd really like to know, which grammar mistake I committed. Would anybody care to explain? Is it wrong to use the simple past tense, instead of „what you did mean“, to take an example. And Arisboch has shown himself, as he says, to be quite capable of looking after himself, both cursing and making the occasional grammar error. But I find him - and me - very easy to understand. :-) Cheers Sorte Slyngel (talk) 01:01, 10 November 2015 (UTC)

Avenger

His mop has been thrashed out at great length on my talk page, and especially Arisboch's. This is entirely related to subsequent behavior, as is the case with Ryulong who also was allowed to keep his mop only to almost immediately lose it. Moreover, it was CamelCasePragmatist who initially de-mopped Avenger Friday night. I reninstated the de-mopping after CarpetSmoker gave it back thinking this was just a heat of the moment decision. (He now has deferred to the rest of us.) AS is true for the de-mopping of Ryu subsequent to the coop case, many have indicated support for again de-mopping Avenger. As I said, see my and Arisboch's talk pages.---Mona- (talk) 22:33, 1 November 2015 (UTC) ADDING: IN the window of time between when CamelCasePragmatist de-mopped Avenger on Friday night and when CarpetSmoker gave the mop back, ChrisAmiss tried to prevent Avenger from continuing to make edits on the Israel page against the majority perspective. So, Avenger, being a sysop again for a bit, continued with the bullshit. Until I took it away again. We need to be able to sysop-protect both the Saloon (where he made trouble on last Wednesday and Friday) as well as I/P-related articles. I just now needed to do it again.---Mona- (talk) 22:39, 1 November 2015 (UTC)

I'm a bit late in replying to this, but Mona, you need to get rid of your megalomania. (Yes, I'm getting as tired of that word as you may be, but it's still correct. And you may not want pity, or so you say, but your self-pity shines through all the way.) You're young here, and I/P related articles are mostly ruined by you, not by consensus. Do get rid of the royal we. You haven't earned the status of lording it over other people's mops. You haven't earned the status of being taken seriously. You have some sheep, but that's all - all it means is that there are people out there even less capable of rational thought than you. Sorte Slyngel (talk) 23:45, 7 November 2015 (UTC)

I already gave her a slapping over her unilateral actions over Avenger's mop please keep this I/P shit outta here |₹Λ¥$€₦₦ ^{You ah TEAHRING ME APAHT Anonymous user!!!} 00:01, 8 November 2015 (UTC)

I'm sorry, what were you saying? I couldn't hear you under this noisy rumbling from this I/P shit-avalanche rolling onto your talkpage. ;) 142.124.55.236 (talk) 00:05, 8 November 42015 AQD (UTC)

I hate you for that and this isn't even my talkpage. ;) WalkerWalkerWalker 00:06, 8 November 2015 (UTC)

You mean the winky face or making you picture an I/P shit-avalanche? ;) 142.124.55.236 (talk) 00:09, 8 November 42015 AQD (UTC)

A very reasonable request, Raysenn, and I'll oblige, but you'll have to admit, that it can't really be coincidental, that the head-sheep showed up on the dot. And it wants to be a moderator, even if all it does is bleat???!!! Sorte Slyngel (talk) 01:23, 8 November 2015 (UTC)

"and I'll oblige" The second half of your post seems to be disagreeing with you. :P 142.124.55.236 (talk) 01:42, 8 November 42015 AQD (UTC)

Hey

As you may or may not remember, I gave you sysop tools. Apparently mine have been removed because you apparently can't restore your own tools. Could you make me a sysop? Hipocrite (talk) 16:27, 14 December 2015 (UTC)

Might want to read this before acting, Raysenn. The jury is still out on Hipocrite having said tools at all. Reverend Black Percy (talk) 16:39, 14 December 2015 (UTC)

no |₹Λ¥$€₦₦ ^{So you're telling me cocaine comes from scorpions?} 02:32, 15 December 2015 (UTC)

also weren't you supposed to LANCB? |₹Λ¥$€₦₦ ^{To the pure body, to the perfect existence} 02:38, 15 December 2015 (UTC)

Userboxen

Why are some shifted over and gross? FᴜᴢᴢʏCᴀᴛPᴏᴛᴀᴛᴏ, Esϙᴜɪʀᴇ (talk/stalk) 00:21, 31 December 2015 (UTC)

Gross wiki layout stuff, I guess |₹Λ¥$€₦₦ ^{My wishes over their airspace} 17:59, 31 December 2015 (UTC)