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Herr FuzzyKatzenPotato (talk/stalk) 19:44, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
Reversion re: "France" article[edit]
Your writing is atrocious. Read that thing you wrote out loud and try again. Peace. AgingHippie (talk) 00:26, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
- Gee thanks for the compliment. I guess there's no policy vis-a-vis biting newbies here? 141.30.210.129 (talk) 00:35, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
- Not for AgingHippie. Sir ℱ℧ℤℤϒℂᗩℑᑭƠℑᗩℑƠ (talk/stalk) 00:42, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
- You're obviously not a noob to writing. You've shown you can do better. I will hold you to the standards you have set, sir or ma'am. Peace. AgingHippie (talk) 00:54, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
- Not for AgingHippie. Sir ℱ℧ℤℤϒℂᗩℑᑭƠℑᗩℑƠ (talk/stalk) 00:42, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
Well it would obviously be a lot easier if not any bit that is one inch short of perfection were immediately deleted or reverted. Especially concerning the anti-Israel slant of some of the articles here. Or articles on things like Amtrak... Regardless of their quality, an article on North America's still most important passenger transportation systems should be part of this project... Or shouldn't it? 141.30.210.129 (talk) 19:38, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
- Maybe? Possibly not. Peace. AgingHippie (talk) 20:47, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
- You don't seem to have a vote for deletion process, than? Strange... 141.30.210.129 (talk) 21:14, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
- I have to say I don't really understand why we would need an article on North America's most important passenger transportation system. Which of our RW:MISSIONs does it fulfil? Weaseloid
Methinks it is a Weasel 21:23, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
- Well 'cause... you know... It is constantly badmouthed by the anti-science global warming denialist car lobby crowd... 141.30.210.129 (talk) 21:33, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
- I have to say I don't really understand why we would need an article on North America's most important passenger transportation system. Which of our RW:MISSIONs does it fulfil? Weaseloid
- You don't seem to have a vote for deletion process, than? Strange... 141.30.210.129 (talk) 21:14, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
Hamas[edit]
That bit was already in the article. wanna make it better? Get citations for your claim. Peace. AgingHippie (talk) 00:56, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
- First off I don't find Tony Blair or Bibi to be good cites. The IDF video shows me that Hamas are firing Qassam Rockets
from urban areas not specific buildings. This makes sense since they are an irregular force in a city. This doesn't excuse Israel from fire on civilians under international law especially since they have well trained special forces and the Iron Dome to protect them.--Owlman (talk) 01:42, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
- Why is Tony Blair not a good cite? Even Hitch who said he would "consider Zionism a bad idea even if there were no Palestinians" said on more than one occasion that Hamas is committing a "double war crime" (his words) in shooting rockets from civilian areas to hit civilians. I can also point to this video of Bill Maher. Hamas is using human shields. Hamas misuses ambulances. There is hardly a war crime Hamas is not committing. 141.30.210.129 (talk) 01:55, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
- Maher isn't that great of a cite either on account of his Islamophobia. Desert Storm is a good example of disproportionate force in the case of the Highway of Death. Don't get me wrong though Hamas does stand in the way of any solution when hey fire their rockets, but Israel doesn't have to hit civilians.--Owlman (talk) 02:06, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
- You know that Tony Blair is a noted liar when it comes to stuff regarding the Middle East, right? Claiming that Hamas deliberately uses civilian constructions as a base doesn't sound unreasonable, but don't use Tony Blair as a source. 141.134.75.236 (talk) 02:10, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
- Using Israel's defense ministry is also not a good cite. Again, from both videos I see Hamas firing inaccurate and small rockets from urban areas because the Qassam Brigades are an irregular force fighting in a densely populated area. Their activities are similar to the insurgent forces in Sadr City and Fallujah.--Owlman (talk) 02:17, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
- You have seen the videos, right? in the Maher video, basically everybody on the panel agrees with him on several key points (including the human shield thing) they even note their agreement with people on the right on this. And how Tony Blair counts as lying when it comes to Israel is beyond me. Also, the Israeli videos show through clips from Gazan propaganda TV that the human shields are a deliberate tactic that Hamas acknowledges to its own serfs (read those held under the thumb of Hamas in Gaza). Have you also seen the France 24 video? Or is that Israeli propaganda as well? What would in all honesty be an acceptable source? 141.30.210.129 (talk) 12:31, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
- Yes I watched all the videos and Maher also s t arts saying Muslims are science shunning cretins; those on his panel aren't working for any international community. That isn't a good cite. Yourr failure to see Tony Abbot as the Dubya of Australia is odd. France 24 video shows that they are firing rockets from urban areas because Gaza is a densely populated city. Nowhere do I see them in a school during hours or the UN building, but regardless Israel has no right to bomb those areas even if there are human shields.--Owlman (talk) 16:15, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
- I did not say any such thing about Tony Abbot, whom I abhor. 141.30.210.129 (talk) 17:00, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
- Not gonna watch a video, especially a Bill Mahar one, to check out your point. Find written sources if you can. Peace. AgingHippie (talk) 14:19, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
- I did not say any such thing about Tony Abbot, whom I abhor. 141.30.210.129 (talk) 17:00, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
- Yes I watched all the videos and Maher also s t arts saying Muslims are science shunning cretins; those on his panel aren't working for any international community. That isn't a good cite. Yourr failure to see Tony Abbot as the Dubya of Australia is odd. France 24 video shows that they are firing rockets from urban areas because Gaza is a densely populated city. Nowhere do I see them in a school during hours or the UN building, but regardless Israel has no right to bomb those areas even if there are human shields.--Owlman (talk) 16:15, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
- You have seen the videos, right? in the Maher video, basically everybody on the panel agrees with him on several key points (including the human shield thing) they even note their agreement with people on the right on this. And how Tony Blair counts as lying when it comes to Israel is beyond me. Also, the Israeli videos show through clips from Gazan propaganda TV that the human shields are a deliberate tactic that Hamas acknowledges to its own serfs (read those held under the thumb of Hamas in Gaza). Have you also seen the France 24 video? Or is that Israeli propaganda as well? What would in all honesty be an acceptable source? 141.30.210.129 (talk) 12:31, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
- Using Israel's defense ministry is also not a good cite. Again, from both videos I see Hamas firing inaccurate and small rockets from urban areas because the Qassam Brigades
- Maher isn't that great of a cite either on account of his Islamophobia. Desert Storm is a good example of disproportionate force in the case of the Highway of Death
- Why is Tony Blair not a good cite? Even Hitch who said he would "consider Zionism a bad idea even if there were no Palestinians" said on more than one occasion that Hamas is committing a "double war crime" (his words) in shooting rockets from civilian areas to hit civilians. I can also point to this video of Bill Maher. Hamas is using human shields. Hamas misuses ambulances. There is hardly a war crime Hamas is not committing. 141.30.210.129 (talk) 01:55, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
Strikeout jokes.[edit]
Your attempts at humour via use of the strikeout are uniformly lame. Please save me the effort of removing them by not putting them in in the first place. Many thanks. Peace. AgingHippie (talk) 20:47, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
- So now you are the only authority as to what constitute humor around these parts... Care to take a look at other pages where the strikeout is used in exactly the same way in a
desperate attempt athumor... 141.30.210.129 (talk) 21:17, 13 July 2015 (UTC)- I'll eventually get rid of those too. Have no fear. Peace. AgingHippie (talk) 21:39, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
A couple of things you apparently do not know about.[edit]
The "comma" and the "full stop" or "period." Learn how to use them. Peace. AgingHippie (talk) 21:47, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
- You seem to have not the faintest idea of how to not be overly dismissive. 141.30.210.129 (talk) 13:05, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
- What, you want people to explain in the least mocking tones how you write like someone who flunked out of elementary school and never went back? -EmeraldCityWanderer (talk) 13:45, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
- Gee thanks. As that's coming from somebody who never went to basic human decency class, I take it as the good natured jab it was surely intended as --141.30.210.129 (talk) 13:56, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
- Being that lazy and expecting everyone else to clean up after you and deal with you like a child is just rude. Making assumptions that it's just everyone else's problem when they react to you being an ass doesn't help. -EmeraldCityWanderer (talk) 14:06, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
- Apparently there is no "assume good faith" policy around here either. 141.30.210.129 (talk) 14:14, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
- Your faith isn't being questioned. Your writing skills are. Peace. AgingHippie (talk) 14:17, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
- Assumptions are not needed when there is proof of not giving a crap. -EmeraldCityWanderer (talk) 14:31, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
- Apparently there is no "assume good faith" policy around here either. 141.30.210.129 (talk) 14:14, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
- Being that lazy and expecting everyone else to clean up after you and deal with you like a child is just rude. Making assumptions that it's just everyone else's problem when they react to you being an ass doesn't help. -EmeraldCityWanderer (talk) 14:06, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
- Gee thanks. As that's coming from somebody who never went to basic human decency class, I take it as the good natured jab it was surely intended as --141.30.210.129 (talk) 13:56, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
- What, you want people to explain in the least mocking tones how you write like someone who flunked out of elementary school and never went back? -EmeraldCityWanderer (talk) 13:45, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
Well, you might care to enlighten me, might you not? Where is the proof of me "not giving a crap"? 141.30.210.129 (talk) 14:54, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
- Missing apostrophe; "Breaking" instead of "braking"; Horrible run-on sentence; So many missing commas; Run-on sentence, "to" instead of "too"; Missing capital letters in a proper name; More missing commas; "Northeast corridor" or "Corridor" -- you use both; No period at the end of a sentence. I can go on...Peace. AgingHippie (talk) 15:12, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
- Well sorry, but your argument clearly argues form over substance. Which is the dominion of small minds... And it is not at all my fault that the English language is spelled not even remotely close to how it is pronounced. Other languages, such as Spanish have indeed managed to have a relationship between written and spoken word that makes actual sense. And missing a comma here or a period there is something that can happen when typing rapidly. It should not be a big deal, but is of course in your groundless ad hominem attacks, because you disagree with some of my opinions... 141.30.210.129 (talk) 15:15, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
- Save me the martyr complex, I don't give a crap about your opinions. Just proofread your damn writing. Thanks. Peace. AgingHippie (talk) 15:19, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
- Well somebody has to give the wikignomes over here something to correct. Mistakes happen when writing fast. Why should I proofread anything if the inevitable result is you reverting it in any case (see the infamous history of the Amtrak article, which was deleted without even a token attempt to seek consensus first). In other words: Why should I care, assuming that I don't? 141.30.210.129 (talk) 15:23, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
- Job security for wikignomes? How benevolent of you. Please do your own proofreading. It is one of those hygienic things that does not gain you big fanfares of kudos, but when it is lacking, it looks like failure. CamelCasePragmatist (talk) 15:37, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
- It wouldn't be reverted if it wasn't written like a drunk monkey with brain damage. Who says anyone here is actually paid to do this since it clearly states it is a volunteer project? That's just lazy again. -EmeraldCityWanderer (talk) 15:58, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
- I did not in fact insinuate anybody was paid to do anything... 141.30.210.129 (talk) 16:14, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
- Well somebody has to give the wikignomes over here something to correct. Mistakes happen when writing fast. Why should I proofread anything if the inevitable result is you reverting it in any case (see the infamous history of the Amtrak article, which was deleted without even a token attempt to seek consensus first). In other words: Why should I care, assuming that I don't? 141.30.210.129 (talk) 15:23, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
- Save me the martyr complex, I don't give a crap about your opinions. Just proofread your damn writing. Thanks. Peace. AgingHippie (talk) 15:19, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
- Well sorry, but your argument clearly argues form over substance. Which is the dominion of small minds... And it is not at all my fault that the English language is spelled not even remotely close to how it is pronounced. Other languages, such as Spanish have indeed managed to have a relationship between written and spoken word that makes actual sense. And missing a comma here or a period there is something that can happen when typing rapidly. It should not be a big deal, but is of course in your groundless ad hominem attacks, because you disagree with some of my opinions... 141.30.210.129 (talk) 15:15, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
The dreaded youtube link as a reference[edit]
Don't do that. Nobody likes clicking on a link with no idea what's there. Is it some vlogger in his mom's basement, or a 60 Minutes report? Format the reference with, at least, a title, if not title/creator/date. Peace. AgingHippie (talk) 14:02, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
- I'm sorry but I don|t know how to put the title there. Despite appearances there are aspects of wiki markup that I am not familiar with... 141.30.210.129 (talk) 14:09, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
- To clarify why I reverted your changes: piles upon piles of youtube links to support relatively extreme and broad assertions(even about fucking Hamas) is a common thing to do on the internet, but it doesn't establish the credibility you think it does. We don't mind occasionally using youtube links to support an X has done Y by showing video evidence thereof, but when you do a whole pile all in the same line of argument, it comes across as a Gish Gallop, which is not a communication tactic we endorse here.
- Try to build a broader argument using more reputable sources. If one or two things can only be verified by video, so be it, but it hurts the page's credibility to do what you've done. Just adding titles to youtubevideos like this would be a bare minimum and still wouldn't cover the broader problems of using less-than-ideally-reputable sources in a giant pile. ikanreed You probably didn't deserve that 14:11, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
- To get John Coltrane's only live performance of "A Love Supreme," 1965., do this: [TheURL "Title of the video," where it came from, who made it, whatever other info you want to include]. Peace. AgingHippie (talk) 14:14, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
Here's the deal[edit]
From now on, I will revert any edit you make that requires more than two obvious corrections. It will be up to you to find the errors and fix them. Peace. AgingHippie (talk) 17:36, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
- That appears to be overly hostile. Util(sic!) you show me the policy page that states that this is normal behavior around here, I will assume this is just one user who has gone rogue... 141.30.210.129 (talk) 17:38, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
- Okay. Peace. AgingHippie (talk) 17:38, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
- So where is the relevant policy page? 141.30.210.129 (talk) 17:39, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
- This isn't wikipedia. Policy doesn't dictate everything. If you can't compromise on basic technical quality of edits, you're not going to win any sympathy for the things you're trying to do. ikanreed You probably didn't deserve that 18:05, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
- It's in the help -> community standards including editors having discretion. Also, I don't think I've seen anyone jump around making this many edits and starting conflicts this quickly without some sort of mania. Not to accuse you but that's what it is looking like from the other side. It's better to calm down, listen for a second, and do it correctly. -EmeraldCityWanderer (talk) 18:11, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
- This isn't wikipedia. Policy doesn't dictate everything. If you can't compromise on basic technical quality of edits, you're not going to win any sympathy for the things you're trying to do. ikanreed You probably didn't deserve that 18:05, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
- So where is the relevant policy page? 141.30.210.129 (talk) 17:39, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
- Okay. Peace. AgingHippie (talk) 17:38, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
A hint...[edit]
The titles of books are usually capitalized in the English language. If you hadn't made the crack about "making work for wikignomes," I would be more inclined to fix your shit, but not after a comment like that. Peace. AgingHippie (talk) 19:39, 15 July 2015 (UTC)
- Ah well, sorry for trying to be funny. Apparently humor does not translate well. Anyhoo, I will keep that in mind. Capitalization in English is still something that bothers me to no end. There has been in fact a study that proved that using upper case letters for the beginning of all nouns enhances reading comprehension. Still German is the only major language that does that... 141.30.210.129 (talk) 20:21, 15 July 2015 (UTC)
Account[edit]
Ok, so while you've apparently hit a bunch of nerves while you've been here, I'm still going to suggest that you take out an account. It makes it easier to keep who's who sorted out (especially when 141.othernumbers gets involved), plus after a while the captcha will be gone. Plus people tend to be a bit shorter with anonymous editors.WalkerWalkerWalker 13:01, 25 July 2015 (UTC)
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