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Sorry if I overstepped[edit]

I just can’t stand pedophiles and I didn’t think calling him a piece of shit would be a bad thing after what he got caught doing. (talk) 19:37, 2 January 2021 (UTC)

Tisane isn't worth the effort. Really, he isn't. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 19:39, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
True. But are any jackasses worth any effort? 71.208.x.x (talk) 19:46, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
Most of them aren't, in my opinion at least. Then again I do get mad at people when they fail to understand certain things, so I'm not exactly a beacon of virtue. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 19:50, 2 January 2021 (UTC)

Regarding open proxies[edit]

I don’t see why it’s a bad idea to block them for a few years, especially seeing as how we have an automated system to infinitly block them. Sievert 81 (talk) 00:11, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

@Sievert 81 The automated system blocks account, not IPs. Also, since this is an active vandal and not a shady ad bot, they'll just jump proxies. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 00:26, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
I mean the DNSBL. Why keep open proxies unblocked though? If they are banned on the site, why not ban them? Sievert 81 (talk) 00:57, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
It's just not worth the effort to ban the IPs for that long. Especially since they're probably spoofed with an IP harvesting program... ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 01:01, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
Unless they're super-duper annoying, we rarely ban IPs for more than pi days- and even then, we have a policy against blocking them for any longer than pi months. --Goatspeed. Happy Halloween!🎃CircularREmail2.gifasoning🎃See my experiments 01:09, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
The MediaWiki software RW uses bans Tor-based proxies. Oxyaena Harass 09:57, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

Pissing you off[edit]

Just out of curiosity, would it help if we practiced staying calm when someone does something to piss you off? I've learned to focus a bit on keeping calm, but it's not something that's natural to me (and probably not natural for everyone). For example, I ask you your favorite dinosaur, you say Triceratops. Not a bad choice, it's pretty badass and iconic. I say my favorite dinosaur is the Tiger. No, not some new or obscure dinosaur call the Tigersaur, just the Tiger, because RAWR. Your Triceratops can't RAWR, can it now? You point out that Tigers are not dinosaurs (obviously), I stubbornly refuse, and you focus on remaining calm. That sort of thing. CoryUsar (talk) 15:34, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

The Brittany Dier Venti page[edit]

I deleted the draft page at the same time that you deleted the mainspace page. You can decide whether it's good enough for mainspace. It needs work, but I don't care enough about YouTube stars to decide. Bongolian (talk) 03:48, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

@Bongolian I restored the draft and left a (hopefully) helpful note for the author on their talk page. —cosmikdebris talk stalk 03:51, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
OK, thanks! Bongolian (talk) 03:54, 27 January 2021 (UTC)


So I’m kinda curious, you seem like a person who knows Facts and Logic. So I was wondering how you personally would define fascism? I’ve heard so many different definitions and variations and I kinda have a loose idea, but you seem to know a bunch about this stuff so yeah. If you’re all g with that, I’d love to hear it thoughts! 💜 A S E L A कुरा 💜 22:21, 28 January 2021 (UTC)

(also pls don’t feel pressured to answer if ur not up for it, feel free to delete this if you’re not comfortable with it. Just wanted to make that extra clear!) 💜 A S E L A कुरा 💜 22:29, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
@Asela I define fascism as a modernist (pseudo)ideology which seeks to curb the allowances of capitalism in order to (re)create a (supposed) prelapsarian golden age. I have a few more detailed definitions but that's the one I feel is both concise and covers most ideologies that we're pretty sure are fascist. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 23:44, 28 January 2021 (UTC)

Magda Marble[edit]

As you deleted the user page, can you delete my talk page comment (I expect such vague witticisms and comments to be ephemeral.) Anna Livia (talk) 15:29, 29 January 2021 (UTC)

Texas and climate change[edit]

Hey GC, I read that you're from Texas, how are you holding-up over there? I can't even begin to imagine what that must be like. I hope you're alright. LeucippusTalk 14:47, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

@Leucippus I've been lucky. We've only lost power a few times and we only lost water once. Other people are much worse off. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 15:21, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
@GrammarCommie I'm glad you're ok. It must be truly awful for the homeless. It doesn't help either, when you have that cunt Ted Cruz abandoning your state, and then apologising by saying "obviously it was a mistake." A MISTAKE! Really?! You just aCcIdently booked a holiday during this nightmare!! Fucking cunt!! The callousness of these worthless pricks is unbelievable. Fortunately, where I live, we rarely if-ever, get snow; biggest problem we have is flooding. LeucippusTalk 15:48, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
It's a shame we couldn't "quarantine" him for two weeks because he had traveled out of the country. If his detention center doesn't have heat, power or water, well, he'll just have to tough it out like everyone else. Corona (poke) 15:59, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
Speaking of detention centers... ICE is forcing detainees to endure hellish conditions, including subzero temperatures and a lack of fresh water. Please harass your local representatives to abolish ICE. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 16:06, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
You know, I used to view ICE as doing one of those "evil, but necessary" jobs, but they seem to enjoy the "evil" portion a bit too much even for my tastes. And I'm the biggest prick here! The org didn't exist 20 years ago, I'm starting to think that maybe we could scrap the entire department and just use the systems we had in place before ICE... Corona (poke) 19:03, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

Happy to know you're fine, GC. I'm sorry about that fleeing luxury Cruz ship. Hope it crashes into ICE and goes down. --It's-a me, Lgm sigpic.png LeftyGreenMario! 04:27, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Your political views[edit]

A tankie that lives in Texas? How unheard of.Just kidding, I know you aren't actually a commie. If you don't want to, don't answer. Are you a social democrat? A democrat socialist? GeeJayK (talk) 00:37, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

I tend to avoid labels since there's always implicit baggage, even if you do your research and know about previous adherents/advocates/speakers/whathaveyou. I'm an anti-capitalist (no surprise given where I live) and I'm left-wing (as opposed to right-wing anti-capitalists, aka fascists.) Other than those positions I tend to favor pragmatic solutions and policies (RealPolitik comes up a lot) without a true ideological goal. On social structures I tend to favor intersectalism as an explanatory model, mainly because that seems to be what the sociological seems to indicate. I am at least to some degree anti-Marxist, viewing Marx's work as at best incomplete in terms of explanatory power. I'm not really big on partisan lines or moral imperatives. You can ask more specific questions for more specific answers. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 00:54, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
Actually, I really do. Just wait until tomorrow. I'm busy right now. GeeJayK (talk) 01:21, 8 March 2021 (UTC)


Once again I try to point out things most parties involved would nominally agree with, and once again performative politics takes precedence over actual thoughtful consideration... ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 15:42, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

But the important thing is you are staying relatively calm; you are better that you once were, and can be better still. That matters a whole lot more than people being wrong on the intertube. Corona (poke) 15:45, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
I know you're pissed now (indeed, I think you've been pissed at RW for over than a year), but can you please answer me on talk:Socialism? GeeJayK (talk) 15:53, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
Your ping didn't work o that message for some reason so it took me a bit to get around to checking manually. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 15:55, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

Your anger management problem[edit]



Here you go, choose one. Corona (poke) 16:42, 24 March 2021 (UTC)

Yo, how do I get one those nifty "this user supports..." banners[edit]

I am not wiki-literate enough to figure this out on my own, sorry to bother you. -- Only Sort of Dumb 22:21, 24 March 2021 (UTC)

@OnlySortaDumb They're in the Userbox list. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 22:46, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
Just for the record. Some of them are custom made. You can see how to do one here. GeeJayK (talk) 23:00, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
Thanks y'all -- Only Sort of Dumb 23:52, 24 March 2021 (UTC)

Fuck you all.[edit]

Fucking use the collapse template, and if the dipshit troll edit wars bin them. You're too fucking stupid to fucking manage this fucking site. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 17:26, 14 March 2021 (UTC)

PS: You have no clue whether the troll is Mike or not. All you know is that they're a troll. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 17:33, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
Excellent! Scream!! (talk) 17:45, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
If you hate us all so much, then why don't you just take a break from our site (if not retire)? It doesn't seem to be having a particularly positive impact on your health. --Goatspeed. Happy Halloween!🎃CircularREmail2.gifasoning🎃See my experiments 18:33, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

Oi, fuckhead[edit]

This shit would get a BoN an insta-permaban. In the real world, it would result in summary dismissal from any workplace, and permanent barring from any public social space.

There was nothing in the preceding exchange - or indeed, in any conceivable exchange, ever - that could possibly justify that batshit, all-caps meltdown, and you should be thoroughly fucking ashamed of yourself. Helena Bonham Carter (talk) 02:10, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

Can I just say GC, after you abused your promotion abilities on me and Cory for no reason and have been too soft on certain SB shitposts/off-mission editorializing just because they're leftist (in addition to defending a certain someone who constantly spews bile towards everyone from those who make insensitive, edgy comments like Ace to everyone whose viewpoints differ from hers), this has lost you the last vestiges of your credibility in my eyes. It is exceptionally poor form for RW staff members to be in the business of shouting and cursing at people with their caps-lock keys. I shall anti-endorse you come the next RMF election.
And also, I go on hiatus for three days due to schoolwork, and shitstorms like this happen? I swear to Goat, one of these days y'all will give me a stroke. --Goatspeed. Happy Halloween!🎃CircularREmail2.gifasoning🎃See my experiments 18:24, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
Don't bother, I'll just resign and leave you all to your illiterate delusions. After all, as we all know I've never lost my temper at Oxy or any other leftist editor, nor have I ever disagreed with them. That was sarcasm by the way. Except the parts about resigning and you all being illiterate and delusional. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 18:47, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
That's not what I'm trying to say here, but if that's what you like to think --Goatspeed. Happy Halloween!🎃CircularREmail2.gifasoning🎃See my experiments 18:50, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
That's what I infer from reading what you wrote. If you didn't mean it, you shouldn't have written it. Just to be clear, Oxy can go fuck herself. ALL of you can go fuck yourselves. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 18:53, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
You really need to fucking stop. I get you’re having a bad time, but trying to drag everyone else down with you is toxic and unacceptable. Get off the damn internet and do something else. Pizza SLICE.gifChef Moosolini’s Ristorante ItalianoMake a Reservation 20:45, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
Fuck off. All of you need to learn when to keep your fucking traps shut. And to not make fucking bad faith accusations, without evidence. So yeah, all of you can go fuck yourselves. Fucking accusing me of fucking preferential treatment of people I've burned bridges with... ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 20:49, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
Considering the shit that you’ve posted the last couple days, the only one here who needs to learn to keep their trap shut is you. Pizza SLICE.gifChef Moosolini’s Ristorante ItalianoMake a Reservation 20:51, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
Because anger is such a problem.... Oh wait. Accusing someone of giving special treatment to someone else without evidence is bad? Accusing someone of bigotry, while engaging in bigotry is bad? This thing called the fucking tone argument exists and is fucking fallacious as all fuck? Oh... Those things might be worth considering, rather than getting up in arms because I said mean words. Also, I never nuked a community Discord server because I didn't get my way, unlike a certain certain hypocritical swine. Stay the fuck off my talkpage, your garbage is cluttering my email inbox. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 20:56, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
”Mean words” huh? You’re fucking yelling about self harm and suicide to people without any concern as to what anyone else’s relationships to those topics might be. And I’m the bad the guy for telling you to stop. You are stunning me with your lack of self-awareness and lack of self-control. Pizza SLICE.gifChef Moosolini’s Ristorante ItalianoMake a Reservation 21:01, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
I haven't mention suicide in the last three days, Mr "nuked community property over far less" I've mentioned an explicit death wish, I've told people to kill me, but I haven't said anything along the lines of "If you don't do what I want I'll kill myself or hurt myself". Go ahead and find where I have. GO! Or get the fuck off my talkpage and fuck right off with your hypocrisy. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 21:06, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
You had to get multiple edits of yours deleted for shouting about mutilating yourself and slashing blood and killing yourself or whatever the fuck. You can bring up Discord shit as much as you want, but it doesn’t change the fact that you are totally unrepentant about endangering other people’s mental health. So fuck you, too. Pizza SLICE.gifChef Moosolini’s Ristorante ItalianoMake a Reservation 21:10, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

How to actually resign[edit]

I don’t think posting a message on someone’s talk page counts as resigning. From the RMF website:

Any Trustee of the Foundation may resign at any time by giving written notice to the Board of Trustees, to the chairman of the board. Any such resignation shall take effect at the time specified therein, or, if the time be not specified therein, upon its acceptance by the Board of Trustees.

It’s not very specific, but it’s something. The RMF probably has a rarely checked email address to make it official, you’d need to ping some staff members (preferably ones who are also techs/mods so they can actually remove your staff user right).

Good luck with everything. Christopher (talk) 19:21, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

Fucking take me off the fucking list and be done with it. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 20:44, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

Just stop[edit]

You're now attacking people who have nothing to do with the original incident, and if you keep this up you will lose the respect of everyone around here. You really need to take my and everyone else's advice and take a break. Plutocow (talk) 21:13, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

I don't think this kind of thing will help neither GC nor the Wiki right now, Pluto. GC needs to rest right now. He's an important asset of this community and I'd hate to see him gone. He has this strange ability to shit on people and treat them nicely a couple of day latter. Let's just ignore him for now. GeeJayK (talk) 21:16, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
@Plutocow READ. DO NOT REPLY. LEAVE ME ALONE!! ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 21:22, 25 March 2021 (UTC)


I'm not interested in people trying to settle old petty scores at the fucking moment. Learn some fucking tact! ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 21:20, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

Alright that's it GC, you've crossed the line[edit]

A case involving you has been raised at the Chicken Coop. Feel free to comment. --Goatspeed. Happy Halloween!🎃CircularREmail2.gifasoning🎃See my experiments 21:25, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

Well wishes[edit]

Hi, GC. I hope you're doing well today. No, this isn't sarcasm, I just wanted to extend my solace to you in whatever it is you might be dealing with at this time. I would also like to apologize for my discourteous "Keep on crying" post on the "Super straight, super gay" topic in the bar. I realize that on political topics we are about as far as we can get from each other, and that I tend not to pull my punches if I'm pissed off at someone, but I hope now that we at least call a truce and leave each other alone. I hope you have a great day and a better week.

Roman Sionis tends to be inactive during summer 18:21, 28 March 2021 (UTC)

Bomis Babe Report was a good page[edit]

Dunno why you think former mods have the wiki authority to AFD pages on whim 2001:41D0:602:9CC:0:0:0:0 (talk) 19:27, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

Easy, I don't. However, as a Sysop I can and will vaporize pointless trolling and spam. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 19:31, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

Hi GC[edit]

Since I'm topic-banned, can you add a detail to the Pat Robertson page about his background from a segregationist family? His father was Absalom Willis RobertsonWikipedia [1], a Democrat allied with the Byrd Organization who opposed civil rights legislation [2], even anti-lynching legislation. [3] Just a side note though, the WaPo source isn't entirely accurate, as there weren't that many sources I could find on this topic.

Thanks. UShistoryanalyzer (talk) 22:31, 15 April 2021 (UTC)

Acamdemic study on the high correlation of the projected growth of Islam in an area and the growth of right-wing nationalism[edit]

Professor Eric Kaufmann says about a graph showing the correlation between the projected growth of the Muslim propulation and the rise of right-wing nationalism in a country: "Figure 1 shows an important relationship between projected Muslim population share in 2030 and support for the populist right across 16 countries in Western Europe. Having worked with IIASA World Population Program researchers who generated cohort-component projections of Europe’s Muslim population for Pew in 2011, I am confident their projections are the most accurate and rigorous available. I put this together with election and polling data for the main West European populist right parties using the highest vote share or polling result I could find. Note the striking 78 percent correlation (R2 of .61) between projected Muslim share in 2030, a measure of both the level and rate of change of the Muslim population, and the best national result each country’s populist right has attained."[4]

Samuel P. Huntington's thesis on the The Clash of Civilizations and the Remaking of World Order keeps getting vindicated.Rabesma6739 (talk) 15:27, 16 April 2021 (UTC)

Ken, you're a hack and an idiot. Firstly, that's a blog post by the primary author of the study, not the research papers themselves. As the conservative Science YouTuber Potholer54 would point out, blogs are not studies, nor are they as good as studies. Secondly, it undermines your position. The author points out the far-right parties and groups are actively pushing the idea that Muslim migrants and native Europeans are "incompatible". The blog author goes on to point out, repeatably, that such nonsense claims are harmful to the social fabric and the culture, that the far-right's misinformation must be countered more effectively. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 16:03, 16 April 2021 (UTC)


So from your understanding, how long would my topic ban last for? UShistoryanalyzer (talk) 03:13, 17 April 2021 (UTC)

I don't know. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 13:11, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
@UShistoryanalyzer Your topic ban lasts indefinitely, or until you successfully appeal it. Christopher (talk) 13:20, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
Oh. UShistoryanalyzer (talk) 19:04, 17 April 2021 (UTC)

Please restore Draft:Red Eagle Politics[edit]

Cosmikdebris shouldn't have deleted it. Unclescrooge (talk) 19:44, 25 April 2021 (UTC)

Why bother GC in particular with this? I’ve restored it. As you’re vandal binned I recommend you make heavy use of the preview button. Christopher (talk) 19:54, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
Huh? ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 21:43, 25 April 2021 (UTC)

Please help expand Draft:Red Eagle Politics[edit]

It's very important!!! And I think you said you read his blog??? Unclescrooge (talk) 23:31, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

I read his blog. It was boring. hat exactly do expect me to do with the article? ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 01:30, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
Here's his Twitter page which often contains the type of stuff this wiki is supposed to keep track of. If you also see some of his YouTube videos (I've seen some of them before), maybe you can add some substantial content related to his anti-immigration rhetoric, dogwhistles, ignorance of history, etc.??? I just really think this site should focus more on current right-wing populism and its increasing relevance. Thanks!!!!! Unclescrooge (talk) 01:36, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
The relevance of Neo-fascism is currently in flux, with some countries moving further right with others slowing or even stopping their rightward shift. Also, I don't get why you compulsively avoid calling these people fascists. That's their ideology. Though to be technical, they're neo-fascists who trend towards Neo-nazism, but that's really more of a "one brand of bullshit are they using" kind of technicality. Core belief-wise, they're the same as their ideological predecessors. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 01:58, 7 May 2021 (UTC)

to: GrammarCommie: A response[edit]

Essay: Secular leftist gentlemen, I am not anti-immigration. And you have yet to show that I am!. Sojourner (talk) 01:50, 25 May 2021 (UTC)

Ken, two essays to respond to one taunt? Have I stuck a nerve? ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 01:52, 25 May 2021 (UTC)
Oh my gods I'm laughing so hard... Neither of them explains whether you think Friedman was commie or not... ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 02:03, 25 May 2021 (UTC)
I see that math and/or counting is not your forte. Liberaltears created the second essay. Of course, given that I created one essay, that means you failed to strike a nerve - again!
Milton Freedman was born 100+ years ago by immigrant parents in the USA. I hope you are not saying labor conditions in terms of labor demand (skills wanted, etc.) are the same now as I addressed this in my essay. In addition, the Jews don't have a longstanding problem of a significant portion of their population engaging in terrorism which makes them very different from the Muslim immigrants that leftists/liberals brought in the Western World.
Remember, most Germans were not Nazis, but enough of them were to cause big problems in the world. The same applies to violent Muslims within various Muslim populations. Some Muslim countries have significant problems of terrorism in their countries. Iran has a lot of Muslim terrorists, but Jordon has fewer Muslim terrorists per capita for example. Johnny B. Good (talk) 02:36, 25 May 2021 (UTC)
I got you to flip your lid and now I'm bored with you Ken, shoo. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 04:05, 25 May 2021 (UTC)
Also, I can read the page history Ken. You're the only one that edited both of those essays, and I have the archived links to prove it. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 04:10, 25 May 2021 (UTC)

Transfer of Arabs or Jews[edit]

The idea to cleanse Israel of its Jews have been promoted by Arab leaders since the 1940s. Including by Ahmad Shukairy in the 1950s, before he was booted out of U.N. for saluting far right Neo Nazi gang. Recall of Arab Delegate From UN is Sought. Saluted Tacuara. JTA, December 3, 1962 Then he called for genocide (verbatim: "non of them will survive") in 1967. J. Black: Introduction to Global Military History: 1775 to the Present Day, 2006, p.220 PA "moderate" leader Mahmoud Abbas said in 2013 as reported by Reuters that he does not want a single Israeli on future Palestine state. Abbas wants 'not a single Israeli' in future Palestinian state. Reuters, July 29, 2013 — Unsigned, by: MariAnna / talk / contribs

Fair point, but could you not argue that separating the two people is best? Harry Potter (talk) 11:31, 25 May 2021 (UTC)
@Harry Potter That was an old post that hasn't been properly archived and was made by someone trying to justify Israel's role in the Israel-Palestine unrest and place the blame solely on Palestine. Needless to say, I wasn't a fan. I'm still not a fan. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 12:04, 25 May 2021 (UTC)
Awesome, thanks for that. :) Harry Potter (talk) 12:11, 25 May 2021 (UTC)

Why are you engaging in vote fraud????[edit]

You removed this discussion which included my votes in favor of banning Marquee Moon. Unclescrooge (talk) 23:39, 26 May 2021 (UTC)

The Coop has been archived and, as per the rules, is now over. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 00:00, 27 May 2021 (UTC)

User:Starving artist[edit]

Would you be able to explain why you deleted this page please? Also how is this user a troll? Thanks. Harry Potter (talk) 13:13, 29 May 2021 (UTC)

@Harry Potter Because it's creationist bullshit? You can read it if you want. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 14:46, 29 May 2021 (UTC)

People trolling your talk page[edit]

I'm sorry you've ended up with your talk page being trolled. All I ask, is that if I have stupidly missed your point, that you take a couple deep breaths and just explain why I so seriously misread or misunderstood something without the cursing and sparks. Could we try that? ShabiDOO 23:54, 5 June 2021 (UTC)

@Shabidoo The attempted clarification was unclear and in my opinion unnecessary. It also seemed to create the very problem it sought to avoid, i.e. conflating the Gale5050 case with my comment about the troll(s). ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 00:23, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
Yes. I will be more vigilant in the future with reading your text Grammar. But could we try a deep breath next time? ShabiDOO 00:34, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
@Shabidoo I have a habit of swearing very casually. This has resulted in my linguistic patterns being very dependent on vocal tone Due to the limitations of the text medium this may get lost in translation, as it were. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 02:13, 6 June 2021 (UTC)

Edit reverted[edit]

Hi, may I ask why my edit on Progressive Christianity was reverted? I’m new here and I’m a bit confused on why it was reverted. — Unsigned, by: NylaTheWolf / talk / contribs

@NylaTheWolf It seems to be a distinction without a difference. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 11:45, 20 June 2021 (UTC)
True, I just felt that “quote mine” gives a scornful rhetoric, which I felt wasn’t really necessary since progressive Christians would be using the Bible to support environmentalism. I felt like a snarky tone is completely fair when describing fundamentalists, but I felt it was weird to use that same rhetoric for progressive Christians who are supporting a good cause. --NylaTheWolf (talk) 20:45, 20 June 2021 (UTC)
Motivations don't really matter here. If someone takes a quote out of context, that's quote mining. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 20:53, 20 June 2021 (UTC)
Fair enough, haha. --NylaTheWolf (talk) 21:58, 20 June 2021 (UTC)

Saloon Illiberals[edit]

Breathe. I think BNL is baiting you. I believe that in that game, the only winning move is not to play. Regards, Dave Wise 2 (talk) 18:57, 29 June 2021 (UTC)

You been watching “the Wire” Dave? Remember “You come at the king, you best not miss.” LeucippusTalk 19:16, 29 June 2021 (UTC)
Nope, "War Games".
Ah, rat pack. Ferris Bueller. You really are some councillor, huh? LeucippusTalk 19:39, 29 June 2021 (UTC)


I'm getting tired of trying to manage all of you... ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 20:45, 12 July 2021 (UTC)

You don't need to focus on this wiki so much, GC. Your own mental health and personal wellbeing takes priority. Oxyaena Harass 14:24, 15 July 2021 (UTC)

Try not to be a asshole[edit]

Not gonna lie, but being an asshole and 'onemanupship' isn't gonna help you especially the communist symbolism which is a sign of someone who is into authoritarianism. — Unsigned, by: SixtyNine / talk / contribs

The communist symbolism is just a play on the "grammar Nazi" terminology but people generally miss that to be fair (mine isn't politically affiliated, it's a referall to lefthandedness). As for the behavior, it's.... Well the mood swings are intense and I'm still hoping GC can stay away if he gets out of control. --It's-a me, Lgm sigpic.png LeftyGreenMario! 04:46, 16 July 2021 (UTC)
@SixtyNine Firstly, I'm an asshole, deal with it. Unlike other dipshits I'm both aware and honest about that fact. Secondly, my sig is edgy humor, duh. I'm actually critical of communist theory and incredibly critical of Marx-leninists and Maoists. And thirdly, how much have you actually read on the subject of leftwing ideologies? I don't mean opinion pieces or propaganda by the way, but history, philosophy and political theory. How much have you read, to able to tell me what is going on in my own head? ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 12:02, 16 July 2021 (UTC)
To be honest not much, you probably know far more than I know. I, too am quite anti-Communist. I wasn't trying to say that you were a Communist, I was just saying placing Communist symbolism on your profile looks really negative similar if you placed Nazi symbolism. And, no offense, but being an asshole isn't a virtue you want to keep. — Unsigned, by: SixtyNine / talk / contribs


Here is a formal punishment for you.

Rainbow trout transparent.png Whack!
You've been whacked with a wet trout.

Don't take this too seriously. Somebody just wants to let you know you did something silly.

Yes, I have stepped out of bounds by doing this without a proper vote from the community. Feel free to slap me back. Or not. Corona (poke) 17:15, 21 July 2021 (UTC)

@CorruptUser Fish me harder... ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 20:12, 21 July 2021 (UTC)

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You've been squished by a whale!
Don't take this too seriously. Someone just wants to let you know you did something really silly.

Corona (poke) 20:14, 21 July 2021 (UTC)

Nah no[edit]

I told you to not use the r word in a block. Maybe you didn't see in the block log. But that sort of "I'd rather self-harm than be friends with you" is not acceptable no matter how much you believe your opponents are intellectually dishonest. You may unblock yourself but this is not healthy for you, nor is it healthy for anyone else, I warn you. --It's-a me, Lgm sigpic.png LeftyGreenMario! 04:15, 29 July 2021 (UTC)

@LeftyGreenMario Really? We're just going to ignore the dishonesty, strawmanning, and open examples of Dunning-Kruger to get mad at me for using a slur? Do you realize how disgustingly shallow that is? Can you even tell me why using slurs is wrong? ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 04:27, 29 July 2021 (UTC)
Literally no problem with the word retarded. Stop policing GC for such a silly reason. Pizza SLICE.gifChef Moosolini’s Ristorante ItalianoMake a Reservation 04:28, 29 July 2021 (UTC)
Can I say that as the "victim" of the r-word, I really don't care about generic insults? It's hard to insult me with the r-word when I have the kinds of letters after my name that would intimidate most PhD students. Corona (poke) 04:30, 29 July 2021 (UTC)
You shouldn’t be any more insulted than if he’d called you an idiot. It’s a generic insult, and people need to stop pretending like it’s anything more. Pizza SLICE.gifChef Moosolini’s Ristorante ItalianoMake a Reservation 04:32, 29 July 2021 (UTC)
It's a slur, Duce, don't defend slurs in any context. People do agree it's a slur, hence its use is usually frowned upon if not banworthy in many other communities including our own Discord server. When people tell you to stop, you respect that.
Additionally while these former debate tactics poison discourse, your approach only escalates and poisons it further. All your points are obfuscated by use of slurs, graphic imagery, and whatnot and prompts people to double down. I am also harmed by reading your posts and I rather not engage even while you constantly gripe about lack of engagement by others. Why should I insert myself in toxic discourse and be potentially subject to it? As irritating as it is to debate poor arguments, I don't really care about your points any more becuase you're more than willing to invoke self harm and you realize it's extremely sensitive and you are hitting onlookers lashing out like this. Considering your previous remarks about suicide and self harm, I blocked you primarily your own good not because I want to look like I cover bad faith for civility sake. --It's-a me, Lgm sigpic.png LeftyGreenMario! 04:37, 29 July 2021 (UTC)
@LeftyGreenMario If that is so then why am I the only one receiving punishment? Perhaps you dislike my caustic tone more than you dislike their insincerity? ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 11:36, 29 July 2021 (UTC)
As overzealous as Oxy could be with her ableism critiques, the use of the word "retard" is one that should be, and IS, easily avoided. There are so many ways you can express how ridiculous someone is being without resorting to labels like retard. Resistance to not using the harshest ableist slurs is natural, and it isn't easy changing one's habits, but it is over all a GOOD thing. ShabiDOO 11:53, 29 July 2021 (UTC)
@Shabidoo I think your missing something in your critique here. I generally don't use slurs outside of discussions about them. The fact that I used a slur as a direct insult, a slur that I acknowledge as a slur, should itself say something about how fed up I am with the constant dishonesty and insincerity in the saloon. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 11:57, 29 July 2021 (UTC)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────For future reference, this is the comment in question, GrammarCommie also blocked and desysopped a number of users. Christopher (talk) 12:05, 29 July 2021 (UTC)

Yeah. But replace that with any other slur that is more popularly accepted as harmful and it doesn't look as good. "I could act like a faggot" wouldn't be palatable, even if you weren't directly calling someone a fag. It's the same with retard. If it is easily avoidable, then consider not using the term. ShabiDOO 13:12, 29 July 2021 (UTC)
I'm not buying you defending your objectionable language by merely resorting to accusing me of tone policing and punishing you with zero consideration of harmful effects of your words just because other people frustrate you, and I don't appreciate being lashed at just because I took more immediate offense at your words. This isn't an excuse for you to act verbally abusive. I could say things like this argument is worse than Holocaust, my opponents are worse than slaveholders, and I'd rather be in gulag than be friends with you, people should kill themselves, it's the same sort of violent unacceptable responses that further poisons the discourse and additionally weaken whatever crucial points you are also trying to do. If someone fails to understand the points, try better approaches than all caps or saying you'd self harm. --It's-a me, Lgm sigpic.png LeftyGreenMario! 14:24, 29 July 2021 (UTC)
@LeftyGreenMario I didn't say I'd self harm. I said I'd rather do X than Y. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 15:01, 29 July 2021 (UTC)

One of my Pointless Polls...

Corona (poke) 14:48, 29 July 2021 (UTC)

We can sit around and debate whether "stupid" is a terribly ableist term, but there really should be little doubt that "retard" is, and I am surprised that a few other users have defended its use and defended you for using it. Keep in mind how defensive people used to get when they were asked not to use terms like "faggot", the n-word or "chink" and ask yourself if you are being similarly defensive about using "retard". ShabiDOO 15:06, 29 July 2021 (UTC)
@Shabidoo I consistently referred to the word as a slur. At no point did I say it was not a slur. You are arguing against a position I do not hold!!! ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 15:37, 29 July 2021 (UTC)
And I'd again like to point out that while you're all getting upset with me for using a slur (which I fucking keep referring to as a slur!!), you aren't calling out any of the people who repeatedly argued in bad faith. Your reactions suggest that you're more concerned with the appearance of civility than you are with actual reasoned discussion. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 15:46, 29 July 2021 (UTC)
Grammar, "they are also being unreasonable" is a ridiculous excuse. Don't use slurs. Why are you using slurs when it is easy not to? It is not about the appearance of civility, it is avoiding using words that are harmful to marginalised people. Again, if you can easily avoid doing that...don't. It is that simple. ShabiDOO 15:52, 29 July 2021 (UTC)
@Shabidoo I didn't say their unreasonableness makes the usage of slurs acceptable. I noted your lack of condemnation of them for bad faith argumentation. And how you're applying your condemnation rather selectively. It's perfectly possible for you to condemn me for using slurs while at the same time condemning them for bad faith argumentation. But alas, their talkpages are barren of condemnation and mine is ripe with it, suggesting that you implicitly hold the use of a slur by someone who normally doesn't use slurs as more morally and intellectually reprehensible than their bad faith argumentation. Just as the use of slurs sends an implicit message, so too does selective condemnation... ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 16:01, 29 July 2021 (UTC)
I didn't follow the discussion. I don't have to. I saw a block and a quote where a long-standing member used the word "retard". I do not need to investigate the discussion (there is no end to disruptive bad faith arguments made every day here). It is irrelevant. Suggesting a user not use harmful slurs should not have to be accompanied by any other action. Just as when a police officer is overly aggressive with a suspect, one need not investigate what the suspect was doing nor condemn their potentially nefarious actions to suggest the officer not be pointlessly agressive? Right? ShabiDOO 16:35, 29 July 2021 (UTC)
@Shabidoo I've already agreed with this premise. I don't understand why you're still trying hash it out. To extend your analogy, you're ignoring a second abusive officer who's simply more superficially polite. This does not, therefore, mean the first officer is any less culpable. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 16:50, 29 July 2021 (UTC)

Theres a million ways you can call someone an imbecile that won't need you defending what you said. Is it really worth using a term that draws all eyes on you and look like an insensitive prick insisting everyone is wrong, and everyone misses that you just wanted to let people know that you called someone an idiot the way a dumb child might. Questioning the intelligence of others is less effective when your own laziness, arrogance, stupidity, just plain thoughtlessness result in your own judgement being questioned instead. Use something else if want it land.

And why keep insisting there's nowt wrong with using it when enough people find egregious enough to use some other term of lazy abuse that abuses who you intend to abuse and not backfire on you. Why so attached to a dumb insult that makes the one throwing it around sound dumb with a limited vocabulary?

Is there nothing else that can be used for the same effect and not mark anyone using it as a thoughtless dick? Is dumbfuck not satisfying enough? What about fucking idiot? Stupid twat? Gobshite? Theres an infinite variety of lazy insults you can go with but retard cannot be replaced because why? Reflex or sheer bloody mindedness?AMassiveGay (talk) 19:18, 29 July 2021 (UTC)

@AMassiveGay Are we done pointlessly berating me after I conceded that I did wrong? Because if not I'm just going to revert further attempts to dogpile me on my talkpage. I KNOW THAT AND HAVE CONCEDED THE POINT!!! ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 19:28, 29 July 2021 (UTC)
Wasn't referring to yourself specifically, more on why people bother defending using or other people's use of it, really digging in and not just here or by yourself. It's self defeating as an insult, and there is no shortage of ways to abuse others. And to be honest I posting via a mobile and on a massive comedown. When I started writing it hadn't really been any conclusion or concession, and kept rephrasing and restarting, and yeh, I'm off my face and could probably have made it more concise and less rambling and more obviously generalized commentary rather and having ago at anyone specific. A case of don't post while drunk but with class a's — Unsigned, by: AMassiveGay / talk / contribs
@AMassiveGay Sigh... I apologize for snapping at you. I should have stopped and thought about your perspective more. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 20:16, 29 July 2021 (UTC)
Thank you. Bongolian (talk) 20:30, 29 July 2021 (UTC)
Well actually no you haven't conceded that you did anything wrong. You just admitted that retard is a slur. You asked LGM: "Can you even tell me why using slurs is wrong?", you pointed out that you were angry enough to use a slur, pointed out you usually do not use slurs, complained that others aren't being called out on anything and yes admitted retard is a slur while inferring that I am more interested in superficial civility but not that you did anything wrong. And of course you don't have to. Though it is kind of hard to make much sense out of what your position is. ShabiDOO 02:46, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
@Shabidoo Fine, let me be explicit. I was angry and used slurs. That was wrong of me. Is my position clear now? ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 04:29, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
Yes. ShabiDOO 17:14, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
Welcome to my world.Corona (poke) 17:23, 30 July 2021 (UTC)

I know I'm late and I accept your apology above, but still...[edit]

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You've been squished by a whale!
Don't take this too seriously. Someone just wants to let you know you did something really silly.

--Goatspeed. Happy Halloween!🎃CircularREmail2.gifasoning🎃See my experiments 02:21, 30 July 2021 (UTC)

the talk page[edit]

yeah, I went to the talk page of "Totalitarianism", and a user by the name of "Trau" literally says this:

Indeed, "really repressive tyranny" is insufficient to describe totalitarianism. Nearly all of the nations on this list fail to meet the definition of a totalitarian state. Totalitarian regimes are motivated by an ideology that provides a simple explanation of the past, present, and future, seek to fundamentally transform society into some kind of utopia, and seek to dominate the minds of citizens. Nearly all of the examples on this list fail to meet these requirements. Francisco Franco, for example, was a conservative who co-opted and then defanged the fascist Falange. Totalitarianism is radical, not conservative. The *Ba'athist regimes in Iraq and Syria can also hardly be called totalitarian—any ideology espoused by Saddam Hussein and the Assads served as window dressing.* I would argue that the only states in modern history which fit the mold are Nazi Germany, Fascist Italy, the Soviet Union and some of the Eastern Bloc, Communist China (erroneously referred to as "reformed" in this article despite the fact that Marxism-Leninism remains the regime's operating ideology), and North Korea (which may have transitioned from Stalinism to fascism if one accepts certain descriptions of "Juche"). Imperial Japan possibly fits the definition, but probably does not. Communist states such as Cuba and Vietnam may meet the requirements. I hesitate to identify theocracies as totalitarian regimes because religions are sort of their own category, and theocracies are often conservative rather than radical. Note that conservatism and traditionalism are not the same thing. The Taliban and especially ISIS, which both appeal to tradition and the past (as Hitler and Mussolini did) but seek to transform society with modern ideological innovations—can probably be described as totalitarian movements. I would say that certain religions are themselves inherently totalitarian in character, though, such as Christianity, Islam, and Scientology. there, is that not enough? — Unsigned, by: / talk

I've read the talkpage. A consensus was not reached. This is not the article's talkpage. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 12:23, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
I have never heard that definition of totalitarianism before. It seems like it is your own idiosyncratic one. Hussein's Iraq was totalitarianist. It demanded obedience from and exerted extreme control over its citizens (not to mention the personality cult). ShabiDOO 12:42, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
This conversation should be moved to the article's talkpage. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 12:50, 12 August 2021 (UTC) here ya go. — Unsigned, by: Lasha2008 / talk / contribs
@Lasha2008 Are you illiterate? What part of "I've read the talkpage. A consensus was not reached. This is not the article's talkpage." do you not understand? ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 15:55, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
Let me put this another way. Either take this to the article's talkpage, or I will revert your comments on my personal talkpage on sight as bad faith trolling. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 15:56, 12 August 2021 (UTC)

So let's get this over with then...[edit]

How the fuck are you my friend? How's digs/tricks/t'ings/bangs/or whatever you weird fuckers say when asking how someone is. Strangely, as a native NZer, I have dated three different Yanks over here in the last 5 years - ranging from NY, Seattle and Minnesota (and all of German heritage which is also kinda weird...I must have a type though my ex-wife was from South Africa. Maybe I hate NZ women? Who can say?) and I still don't know the common parlance (or if you are even a fucking American for that matter). So basically just tell me how the fuck you are. Quick smart dude...time is money, strap yourself and feel the G's, I require knowledge. And other goddamned nonsense. It's Ace - you know what to expect. Acegodfuckingdamnit 08:31, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

@Ace McWicked I'm doing ok. I'm finally packing up to move out of Texas and heading for somewhere more urban in Pennsylvania. My social life is as stunted as ever, but in terms of career I'm thinking about maybe getting into political reporting or staffing. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 10:56, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
This will sound all weird and fucked up given the extreme personal dox harm it could cause but I have both been, and am currently, a freelance journalist under a pseudonym, have a degree in political science and have spent some years working closely with politics here in these rational non-covid isles. Hit me up brother. Perhaps I can help, advise, or tell what you not to do...given my weekend.... Acegodfuckingdamnit 11:53, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
@Ace McWicked I still need to move before I can even consider such pursuits. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 20:33, 17 August 2021 (UTC)

I challenge you![edit] a head to head match! My graphics card has been installed, this weekend we shall meet on the field of honor we could both grab a game on sale or get a game the other has, and fight it out. Or co-op. Corona (poke) 01:29, 19 August 2021 (UTC)

@CorruptUser Which game were you thinking of? I don't have a lot of PvP focused games. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 02:18, 19 August 2021 (UTC)
I have a couple co-op games as well, I could probably pick up something cheap. What games do you have? For multiplayer, I have... Baldur's Gate I/II, Divinity OS2 (I think that's multi?), Factorio, Satisfactory, and umm... that's basically it for online pvp or co-op. Well, other things like Civilization or Sins of Solar Empire I suppose. Corona (poke) 03:55, 19 August 2021 (UTC)
@CorruptUser I'll put forward three games for you. Divinity OS 2, The Ascent, and Journey to the Savage Planet. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 04:04, 19 August 2021 (UTC)
Well, I already have Div OS2 but never did much beyond the first island. Could give it a go as Co-op! Corona (poke) 04:08, 19 August 2021 (UTC)

Little issue with Jesus myth theory[edit]

Ok, we are having an issue with GeeJayK on the talk page. He has been saying he will do an AfD and claimed a "shill gambit" with no evidence regarding the reasons for either. I honestly need a new pair of eyes on the article. Yes, there is a lot of stuff there that could be daughtered out (some advice there would be welcome as I an kind of overwhelmed so to where to even start) but the solution is not to try and nuke the article from orbit.--BruceGrubb (talk) 12:08, 2 October 2021 (UTC)


Frameless Doing God’s Work award
In recognition of your consistent upholding of the standards of scepticism and rationality; for your indiscriminate attempts to illume both the oppugnant and the inquiring.
LeucippusSalva veritate 17:04, 12 September 2021 (UTC)

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