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This person is wrong in the head

3 people dead already, huge flooding throughout the city, people losing their homes, more to come too as the rain continues. Chaos and disaster.
Me: Man this is a bad situation. People are losing their lives and homes.
Ken: hahahaha fuck you homos.
Ken’s character laid bare. A disgusting creep. Acei9 04:24, 28 January 2023 (UTC)

:As an aside

I am gunning for a promotion at work and I had to list not just previous roles I have held but also achievements/qualifications. Along with a university degree and industry specific qualifications I nearly wrote "4th place in a spelling bee, Buffalo - New York" but cooler heads prevailed. Acei9 00:39, 1 February 2023 (UTC)

Atheism and smoking

Lets look at some of the highest rates of smoking in the world and check their religious affiliations shall we? That sounds fun...
Naruru - 52.1% of the population smoke
Naruru - 92.63% of the population adhere to some form of Christianity
Kiribati - 52% of the population smoke
Kiribati - 88% of the population adhere to some form of Christianity
Tuvalu - 48.7% of the population smoke
Tuvalu - 97% of the population adhere to some form of Christianity
Chile - 44.7% of the population smoke
Chile - 84.1% of the population adhere to some form of Christianity
I could keep going. I looked at countries with the highest rates of atheism/no-religion and their smoking population and they were all 20% smokers and lower. I am busy so don't have time to keep doing this but it is very easy for you to look yourself if you are interested in honesty. Which you're not. Like shooting fish in a barrel, dude.
And yes, I know engaging with Ken is a waste of time but I enjoy pointing out just how terrible he is. And how dishonest... Acei9 00:59, 8 February 2023 (UTC)

TBF correlation doesn't equate to causation and all that. I think poverty is the relevant underlying factor here. Honestly you could make an argument that high rates of poverty correlate to high rates of religiosity. "Religion is the opiate of the people" as Marx said. Vee (talk) 01:09, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
I'll be fair to Ken, there's several papers that show a connection between religion and smoking less (same with other recreational substances). [1][2][3] And given that fundamentalism of all kinds tends towards self-flagellation and suspicion of any pleasure, it's not exactly a surprise. Religions with greater amounts of fundamentalism do seem to fair "best" at having an anti-recreational substance correlation: the Journal of Religion and Health flagged Muslims in particular as having a negative impact on smoking, for instance.
However, the issue with Ken's simplistic analysis is that there are multiple economic social and economic factors involved in this sort of thing, and religion's factor can easily be cancelled out. For instance, despite the Muslim religion being a damper on cigarette smoking, the Wiki article on tobacco consumption by countryWikipedia includes multiple Muslim-majority nations (Jordan, Syria, Lebanon) in the top 20. If religion was all things on preventing substance abuse, that wouldn't be the case... but it is. In the US, smoking cigarettes is trending towards being a "has-been" recreational substance, with more Americans reporting that they used marijuana (a much medically safer substance) instead of smoked cigarettes for the first time last year. I'm pretty sure this is probably due to strong health campaigns (and some well-placed policies like ad bans, taxes, etc.) more than anything else. Certainly not religion. Aside from a few movements (Jehovah's Witnesses and Mormons and...?) that were notably anti-tobacco, I really don't recall too many American Christian denominations giving a hoot one way or another. Alcohol and those furriner recreationals like the "jazz cabbage", yes. But not the tobacco pipe so much. BobJohnson (talk) 01:39, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
"there are multiple economic social and economic factors involved in this sort of thing, and religion's factor can easily be cancelled out." Of course, thus showing again how terrible and dishonest ken is, and proving Ace's point. —cosmikdebris talk stalk 02:40, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
Honestly, was that ever in doubt? I for one didn't intend to undermine Ace's point. Vee (talk) 03:33, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
The point wasn’t to prove me right and Ken wrong - it was to highlight Ken’s ridiculous premise and how senseless his “scholarship” is. He’s not even wrong - he just makes shit up as fact based upon shit he likes ignoring everything to the contrary. Acei9 05:51, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
Just how easy it is to completely bury Ken using his own methodology. Acei9 05:53, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
Anyway - I am happy with my smoking and drinking habits. I'm down to about 7 cigarettes a day. Usually a couple in the car on the way to work and a few on the beach when I take my evening stroll. Down to only a couple of bottles of wine a night too. Getting soft in my old age it seems. Acei9 18:16, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
Y'all have Mike's Hard Lemonade down there in NZ? Expensive but worth it. Vee (talk) 02:49, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
We have similar. Same shit, different name. Acei9 08:02, 12 February 2023 (UTC)

Ken's Latest Sock and Changes to Ace's Talk Archives

Ken's still trying to have a dig at Ace for being a smoker. This time our little underhand chum tried to add an out of context update, the same stuff to a WIGO CP archive, and Ace's talk page archive. Sock blocked and edits reverted, but I'm not sure of the protocol for deleting new edits to archives. Are edits generally allowed, and, Ace, would you prefer that edits to your talk archives are reverted or just to be notified instead? JumboWhales (talk) 17:25, 12 February 2023 (UTC)

RW practice is to deny giving any oxygen to vandals. So, the vandalism was reverted, and the targeted archives were protected indefinitely. —cosmikdebris talk stalk 17:35, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
Many thanks, that all makes sense. With it being the archives, and a user's one at that, I thought it best to check. JumboWhales (talk) 17:51, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
Wow - he’s still doing that? That’s powerfully lame. Acei9 19:31, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
Petty, stupid, pointless goonery? - yeah, that's all Ken's boxes checked. Perfect score, no notes. Semipenultimate (talk) 16:01, 13 February 2023 (UTC)


HAARP, Rob has now settled on HAARP as his latest conspiracy. His "evidence"? A Twitter video which clearly shows explosions/electrical shorts coming from the ground not the sky. Rob, when an earthquake hits substations blow, high tension powerlines come down and the electrical network gets fucked. Acei9 18:02, 14 February 2023 (UTC)

Rob's wheels are spinning fast - the Chinese are sending balloons up is because the US is heating HAARP up to cause earthquakes because reasons. Acei9 22:11, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
Not to be outdone - Ken suggest the increase in UFO sightings is because more American's are getting into the occult. What a show over there... Acei9 22:14, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
Good to see Rob agreeing with Hugo Chavez London Grump OBE (talk) 00:31, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
By the way Ken - three things. I'm not a "science denier" when it comes to smoking, I am fully cognizant of the risks. Secondly I have quit smoking in the past, I find it remarkably easy - I am happy with smoking at the moment and will quit when I no longer wish to smoke. Usually I quit when I am in a long-term relationship with a non-smoker but currently I am engaged in a couple of casual relationships - one who also smokes and one who doesn't care that I do. Lastly you think American's believing in the occult creates more UFO's? That's just plain stupid. Acei9 21:56, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
This is my last post on the matter. Ken, reading and understanding what has been written is obviously not your strong suit. I am aware of the risks - I know the science. I'm not science denying - I am aware that smoking is a bad habit. Calling me a science denier about this is like calling a skydiver a science denier because they jump out of planes knowing its risky - so by your logic they are denying the science which is gravity. Try harder and look at yourself.
  • Ace got married but had an amicable split up after an 11 year relationship began to tire.
  • Ken, whose greatest achievement in this area is maybe dancing with someone, - "Hahaha you got divorce"
  • Ace has a beautiful 9 year old daughter
  • Ken, who obviously has no one - "Hahaha your daughter is going to be fucked because of co-parenting is bad for children"
  • Ace who holds a series of important jobs in marking, comms, sales and has no interest in using his time to promote atheist websites for free.
  • Ken, who edits a tied old dredge of website for up to 24 hours a day - "Hahaha why is Rationalwiki and other atheist website losing traffic - you suck!"

Do you notice a pattern? You achieve nothing then laugh at the achievements of others. You sad old lonely man. Now I have work to do. We had a cyclone recently, probably something to do with the gays or gods wrath or something I am sure Ken will crow. But I need to set up a Starlink so I can talk to my staff in the region affected. It's interesting. Maybe you should do something with your life Ken...... though I am keenly aware engaging Ken like this makes me a bit of a sad person too I suppose... Acei9 23:01, 16 February 2023 (UTC)

WIGO at 14 Green Votes

What's with the WIGO CP votes and the number 14? It seems that someone uses down votes in order to depress the number back to 14 if it gets above that. Seems like a weird thing to do, especially since it's still possible to see the number of up votes by hovering over the votes bar. JumboWhales (talk) 04:11, 25 February 2023 (UTC)

I thought it was because Conservapedia no longer really attracts any interest outside of a small niche of our userbase, but I may be mistaken. VeeMeow? 02:27, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
Yep, CP is a minority interest now, but there’s been a pattern for a while of relatively high votes being voted down until the total up votes equals 14, which happens every week or so. Why, it’s almost as if some “mysterious” and lonely underachiever with an axe to grind is trying to mess with us. How very, very sad… JumboWhales (talk) 05:20, 27 February 2023 (UTC)

Rap Song

Stunning work. I mean. it's hilarious. Good work - not at all childish. Definitely the work of an adult who is sound of mind. But I've taken a new contract so you need to change it up because that isn't my job now so your rap is out of date. I now manage a communications team on a large infrastructure project. Make it happen, dude. A new rap! Acei9 00:53, 9 March 2023 (UTC)

There's a hard frost where I am, but I read the first few lines of his "song" and my cheeks became so red with embarrassment on Ken's behalf that it actually warmed me up. Thanks Ken, there really is no start to your talents. Instead of more embarrassing attempts at songs why don't you put up a page saying how proud you are that an innocent man got the crap beaten out of him after reading your hate-filled drivel? JumboWhales (talk) 08:23, 9 March 2023 (UTC)