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Where's the sportsmanship?

Schalfly takes a cheap shot at the US Women's Olympic Soccer Team[1] before, without reference or citation, accusing liberals of doing exactly that.[2]--Mercian (talk) 16:54, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

'It's not cricket'? Anna Livia (talk) 17:48, 3 August 2021 (UTC)
If there was ever a Conservative Olympics, I think we know who ‘The man to beat’ would be. LeucippusSalva veritate 00:48, 6 August 2021 (UTC)
Would it be held on Bramble Bank (or one of these places? Anna Livia (talk) 19:03, 6 August 2021 (UTC)
The effete US Team may actually win a gold medal in boxing if it were only conservatives competing.--Mercian (talk) 06:46, 8 August 2021 (UTC)
The only Summer Olympics where the US picked up a higher percentage of medals was 2016 and 1984. If it wasn't for the USMTF pulling in less than 20 medals, we would have picked up more than 2016.RipCityLiberal (talk) 17:51, 10 August 2021 (UTC)
This was in no way a knock at the US Team, more of a piss take of Conservapedia. They say that atheistic liberals are crap at sports as God does not look after them so if only US conservatives were allowed to compete they would have done even better, at least according to their philosophy. An example is the largely liberal US Women's Soccer team who Trump and by extension Conservarpedia actively mocked because they lost. In reality the team are aging with a lot of the ladies in their mid 30s. Football is a sport where player's peaks are in the 25-31 age range, it is all downhill from there.--Mercian (talk) 00:59, 11 August 2021 (UTC)
Would Conservapedia users be capable of jogging for even a mile in the hot sun? Now that's a mystery to ponder! UShistoryanalyzer (talk) 02:04, 11 August 2021 (UTC)
@USHA-That depends … LeucippusSalva veritate 21:33, 11 August 2021 (UTC)
The 'how far can you go before you get banned on CP' medal? Anna Livia (talk) 22:36, 11 August 2021 (UTC)
Ken is contention for one of those. He is pro vax, pro mask and recognises COVID is a real problem which is abhorrent to Schlafly. Him blaming Fauci instead of Trump for the pandemic response is the only thing keeping him off the podium.--Mercian (talk) 06:58, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
USHA’s just bitter because nobs beat him in the egg and brown-nose race last year; said race occurs downhill, Schlafly the bottom. LeucippusSalva veritate 13:43, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
What about cheese-rolling? The medals *might* feature the Cerne Abbas Giant. Anna Livia (talk) 17:00, 24 August 2021 (UTC)

LT goes full nobs again

[3] That said, the subject of LT's research ranks high on the most fascinating events of the McCarthy era. UShistoryanalyzer (talk) 02:02, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

What would the Anti Nowhere League say? LondonGrump (talk) 20:26, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

Schlafly and the evacuation efforts from Afghanistan.

He first berates Biden for not sending planes[4] before berating Biden for sending planes[5]--Mercian (talk) 03:56, 22 August 2021 (UTC)

Countdown until CP editors post that the Taliban is an ideal example for America....-RipCityLiberal (talk) 19:20, 23 August 2021 (UTC)
Conservative Trump JR has already done so so that is a thumbs up. "Liberal" Fox News has also so that is a thumbs down.--Mercian (talk) 19:27, 23 August 2021 (UTC)
What am I missing here? In both instances, he links to CNN and puts it in quotes without comment. Dutchbag (talk) 15:08, 24 August 2021 (UTC)

Can you guys help me debunk this Conservapedia essay: "Vaxxed Higher Risk of Covid than Unvaxxed"

https://conservapedia.com/Essay:Vaxxed_Higher_Risk_of_Covid_than_Unvaxxed

I for example can give the example of Iceland which has over 800 active cases but incredibly little deaths https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/iceland/

BeardOfZeus (talk) 23:08, 31 August 2021 (UTC)

A) This source from AAAS being used is being misrepresented. The story is more "vaccines work, but not well enough". "Higher risk of Covid than Unvaxxed" is the type of bullshit take that shit extremist Wiki is known for.
B) The second source is a preprint paper. The conclusion is this: "Natural immunity confers longer lasting and stronger protection against infection, symptomatic disease and hospitalization caused by the Delta variant of SARS-CoV-2, compared to the BNT162b2 two-dose vaccine-induced immunity". In other words, the take is on whether natural immunity is better than the vaccine alone. The study also notes that natural immunity + vaccine is better still. The Science news item quoted as the third source, which basically references the second, once was here but has since been removed. I don't know if there are issues with the study or whether they pulled it due to covidiots not being cautious about the word preprint and failing to recognize the "natural immunity" part.
C) The fourth source I cannot find through a Google search. Since it's supposedly ProPublica but suspiciously includes political tones that don't sound consistent with ProPublica, I consider this made up bullshit until proven elsewise (suggesting that Mr. Schlafly change that publication date to April 1st, I suppose.)
D) The fifth source actually appears to come from a fake news site called CrackNewz, which actually got it's information from Off-Guardian, a shit conspiracy site whose founders openly boast that they were banned from the Guardian's comment section. So, less news and more rants from the new digital green ink wielders.
E) The sixth source actually seems to be this piece of Medscape and primarily concerns the reporting of breakthrough cases. As it is quote mined, statements like "And as the new CDC data showed, vaccines continue to effectively shield vaccinated people against the worst outcomes." are suspiciously missing.
It is well known that the vaccine's interaction with new variants and breakthrough cases is an area of concern, especially with further variants emerging. But "Vaxxed Higher Risk of Covid than Unvaxxed" is, naturally, a bullshit take. PanGalacticGargleBlaster (talk) 00:13, 1 September 2021 (UTC)
Thanks, @PanGalacticGargleBlaster BeardOfZeus (talk) 03:47, 1 September 2021 (UTC)
Is the full statement actually 'Vaxxed at higher risk of surviving Covid than unvaxxed and suffering from resultant Conservapedia-rants-itis'? Anna Livia (talk) 09:16, 1 September 2021 (UTC)
If 99 out of 100 people are vaccinated then Schalafly's statement is true. He says it himself that Israel is one of the most vaccinated nations in the world, something that the regularly linked Bradlee Dean consistency denies justified by the use of Bible quotes. Is anyone, even the most moronic CP readers, actually fooled by their deliberate deception?--Mercian (talk) 12:40, 1 September 2021 (UTC)
I read this article in WaPo [6] describing the illusion that vaccines aren't as effective as the government says they are. I was unfamiliar with Simpson's paradox, but if you don't want to read it;
The initial study gives the impression that vaccination decreases the likelihood of sickness leading to hospitalization by a factor of three, which isn't great. But when you break down infections by age group, older people skew the data, and the real protection from infection is more like a factor of 10. Raw numbers put more vaccinated people in the hospital than unvaccinated people, but when you break that down per million, unvaccinated people are six times more likely to be hospitalized.
The article has a great comparison to Oklahoma, a place with very low vaccination rate, which presents a more extreme picture both per million and raw numbers.-RipCityLiberal (talk) 18:19, 1 September 2021 (UTC)
He is now pushing horse de worming treatment for COVID claiming that Joe Rogan, who has taken this dangerous substance, has beaten COVID by taking it, without reference of course.[7] The fact is that it seems Rogan is quite ill with the disease. Ironic that so called "pro life" morons like Schlafly are determined to get people killed with their bullshit. They applaud terrorists that kill innocents, they rip masks off peoples faces, literally is some cases and want to criminalise those who push vaccines or mask mandates. I say it again, these "pro life" wankers are a fucking death cult.--Mercian (talk) 11:51, 2 September 2021 (UTC)
The supreme irony here is that for all their bullshit innuendo and conspiracy theory about the COVID vaccine being a way to deliberately kill people or make them infertile, their chosen snake oil actually does that. If there is a conspiracy to kill a shit-ton of people, that call is coming from inside the Republicans' own house. Semipenultimate (talk) 21:30, 3 September 2021 (UTC)
With the liberal/dem vaccine take up at over 80% and the conservative/rep at under 60% they are just killing their own. No wonder that Republicans across the country are stepping up Gerrymandering and voter suppression measures. Without doing so they would not have a hope.--Mercian (talk) 01:22, 4 September 2021 (UTC)
Wow. And who and what do you call conspiracy theorists? Dutchbag (talk) 21:58, 6 September 2021 (UTC)

Ken shows his preference for the Taliban over liberalism.

[8]They do carry out acts that he applauds, abuse of women, execution of atheists and terrorism that kills kids so hardly a suprise. Does he not understand that he former Afghan government were hardly secular leftists as he puts it?--Mercian (talk) 10:45, 4 September 2021 (UTC)

I've been thinking on this. The Chief of The General Staff stood up in congress and condemned The January 6 Insurrection. This along with other factors like homosexuals and women allowed in resulted in the military being labeled as woke among other less polite descriptions by the far right. The great conservative leader Putin paid The Taliban to kill woke American soldiers in Afghanistan, something Trump failed to condemn so that's a thumbs up to The Taliban. The Taliban also treat women and anyone else who does not stand by their terrible religious ideology like shit, comparing them to vermin, something done more than once by Ken himself and this hits a chord with his type and another thumbs up. 9/11 is something that seems to have faded in their hatred and they realise that Islamic fundamentalists have far more in common with them than other Americans who disagree with them. This is verging on treason. Are you a traitor Ken? --Mercian (talk) 15:21, 4 September 2021 (UTC)
To call anyone a traitor, you first have to be a racist nationalist. Dutchbag (talk) 22:00, 6 September 2021 (UTC)
What if I called Vidkun Quisling a traitor?-Flandres (talk) 22:54, 6 September 2021 (UTC)
everyones a traitor in the us it seems. if someones calling someone a traitor or talking about treason, then 9 times out 10 its an american doing the talking. AMassiveGay (talk) 23:08, 6 September 2021 (UTC)
or its the daily mail talking about something brexity AMassiveGay (talk) 23:09, 6 September 2021 (UTC)
I mean, traitor has some very specific political implications. Certainly he's a traitor to the Constitution.-RipCityLiberal (talk) 19:37, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
So how would the quote 'I would rather betray the world than have the world betray me' fit into the discussion? Anna Livia (talk) 23:09, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
In a democratic society if you support another's armed forces over your own and turn a blind eye, even applauding, another nation paying your enemy to kill you nations soldiers than that is treason. The dictionary definition of treason is "The crime of betraying one's country, especially by attempting to kill or overthrow the sovereign or government." by that standard the whole bloody lot of them are traitors with Trump at the head--Mercian (talk) 16:46, 8 September 2021 (UTC)
(Historical person) Cao Cao's comment about rather betraying the world than having the world betray him might be appropriate here. Anna Livia (talk) 09:21, 10 September 2021 (UTC)
Let's take Count StauffenbergWikipedia for example; he is regarded as a hero, not for anything he did to promote democracy, but because he felt Hitler and the Nazis betrayed the nation. Dutchbag (talk) 21:13, 12 September 2021 (UTC)
I look forward to "Essay: RW user Dutchbag compares a member of the User:Conservative collective to the man who bravely attempted to overthrow Hitler" complete with photos of Douglas MacArthur, sinking ships, a man sitting at a computer with his head in his hands and Chuck Norris looking hard.--Mercian (talk) 10:43, 13 September 2021 (UTC)