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Here at RationalWiki, we like sources.[1] Sources are invaluable for backing up your claims and showing that they are not bogus (as opposed to some others who can't). The more sources, the better. Showing your sources is relatively simple.

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References are ridiculously easy to do.[2]

Adding a reference[edit]

You assert that: "All polar bears are left-handed." Why? "Because I said so."

To turn this into a reference, type:

All polar bears are left handed.<ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwFOGWWri6E Because I said so.]</ref>

Which becomes:

All polar bears are left handed.[3]

Adding a references section[edit]

See the main article on this topic: Help:Sections

Currently, that reference isn't showing up anywhere. To fix that, create a references section at the end of the page, as such:

==References==
{{reflist}}

To see this code in action, scroll to the bottom of the page.

Adding a note[edit]

Sometimes you need to explain something said in-article, but there's no relevant link to put in the reference. Instead, you can use a note as such:

Article text.<ref group=note>Note text.</ref>

...

==Notes==
{{reflist|group=note}}

To see an example, click on the note.[note 1]

Purpose[edit]

References are used to guide a reader to your source for a particularly juicy fact or opinion. They are very important if you want to be taken seriously. While some references will be to books or journals, most commonly they will be links to websites so people can easily click onto them rather than having to locate the resource.[4] When making references, the manual of style has some pointers but generally so long as they are consistent throughout the article and easy to understand, it's all good.

Explanatory text versus references[edit]

Sometimes "references" are actually random afterthoughts.[5] These are good for adding slight asides or clarifications that don't work in the main text above. However, these should really be minimised; a good indicator is that if your reference or clarification is longer than the sentence, or even the entire paragraph that you're referencing or clarifying, integrate it into the article text instead. Another good indicator is that if the article contains more than about 5 references but clearly most of them aren't normal external links or citations, it may be time for a bit of a rewrite.

What to do with unsourced statements[edit]

If you think someone put in an untrue fact that is unsourced, or a fact that is true and unsourced but could be sourced, add the template[6] {{fact}}. This will automatically create the following notation: [citation needed]. It also puts it into the category of articles with unsourced statements. The original author should then "put up or shut up". Otherwise other diligent editors will then ignore the article as being a bunch of made-up lies hopefully look for ways to justify whatever the article claims.

Repeating references[edit]

Another final thing. If you used the same reference repeatedly in an article, you don't have to put the whole source in multiple times.[7][7][7][7] This is accomplished by giving the reference a name. The first citation has the format: <ref name="repeat"> … </ref>. After that point to refer to the same reference again, use the following: <ref name="repeat"/>, with no other tags.

As explained at meta:

Multiple insertion of the same reference

References may be cited more than once using <ref name="id"/>. On the Edit page, this is placed at the first insertion point of citation: <ref name="Perry">Perry's Handbook, Sixth Edition, McGraw-Hill Co., 1984.</ref> This is placed at the second insertion point of citation: <ref name="Perry"/> This is placed at the third insertion point of citation:

<ref name="Perry"/> … and so forth for further insertion points

Grouped references[edit]

According to scientists, the Sun is pretty big. <ref>'''E. Miller, ''The Sun'', (New York: Academic Press, 2005), 23-5.'''</ref>
In fact, it is very big. <ref group="elephant">'''Take their word for it. Don't look directly at the sun!'''</ref>'''

==Notes==
{{reflist|group=note}}
==References==
{{reflist|2|80%}}

The anonymous (ungrouped) group works as before, while the named group reference will show up as: [elephant 1] and [elephant 2] and the references will look like this:

  1. Test of the group argument
  2. Second test

Nested references[edit]

Nesting one reference within another may in some cases be desirable, especially if, for example, one has a group of explanatory notes, some of which require actual references. Unfortunately, the following code does not work:

<ref group="note" name="goats">Explanatory note<ref name="jerboas">Supporting citation</ref></ref>

Seriously, it just spews ugly red error text onto the bottom of the page. Don't do it. For whatever reason, the Cite extension does not properly recognize ref tags within ref tags, but there is a workaround which uses the #tag magic word. The following text shows its proper usage:

{{#tag:ref|Explanatory note<ref name="jerboas>Supporting citation</ref>|name=goats|group=note}}

The content of the note must come before the name/group parameters, and the name must precede the group if both are used.

A simpler way to achieve this is using the "efn" template, which automatically uses "group=note" but does not have a "name=" option:

{{efn|Explanatory note<ref name="jerboas>Supporting citation</ref>}}

Citing page numbers[edit]

When citing a reference to a book, particularly if there is no free e-text available, it is a good idea to add a page number(s) indicating the place in the book that is relevant to the citation. An easy way to do this with a minimum of clutter is with the {{rp}} template. For example:

…Bob Gillespie of AiG<ref>''Righting America at the Creation Museum'' by Susan L. Trollinger & William Vance Trollinger Jr. (2016) Johns Hopkins University Press. ISBN 1421419513.</ref>{{rp|204}}

produces:

…Bob Gillespie of AiG[8]:204

Any text can be used in place of "204", so you can also use a range of pages or a chapter.

Citing youtube[edit]

When citing youtube comments, please remember to link directly to the precises timestamp.

For instance if citing the line "you can go on and bless other people's lives" from the Streampunks Trailer video. Press the share button, than check "Start at (timestamp here)". This will give you a link like: https://youtu.be/wBE16Mj0cTY?t=34s

<ref>[https://youtu.be/wBE16Mj0cTY?t=34s https://youtu.be/wBE16Mj0cTY?t=34s] from the [[youtube]] channel '''YouTube Creators'''</ref>
you can go on and bless other people's lives
—Jenny Doan[9]

Finally…[edit]

Finally, please put references after periods/full stops and commas. This is easy to remember by thinking about how weird it looks to have many references and then a full stop after it[7][7][7][7]. See?

Ugly links are an eyesore[edit]

This is ugly: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/example

This is pretty: Example (2017). In Merriam-Webster's dictionary, MA: Merriam-Webster.

See the Wikipedia article on Help:URL. for how to link in wikitext markdown.

See also[edit]

Notes[edit]

  1. What, you expected something interesting? This is a help page, not a stand-up routine.

References[edit]

  1. "Sources" are authoritative statements by (usually) third parties which corroborate the point made. We also like sauces, but that's just mindless wordplay.
  2. If it required smarts, you sure as hell wouldn't see them here.
  3. Because I said so.
  4. see Help:Links
  5. like this
  6. A template is a page transcluded into the present article.
  7. 7.0 7.1 7.2 7.3 7.4 7.5 7.6 7.7 You could, but it'd look bad.
  8. Righting America at the Creation Museum by Susan L. Trollinger & William Vance Trollinger Jr. (2016) Johns Hopkins University Press. ISBN 1421419513.
  9. Streampunks Trailer from the youtube channel YouTube Creators