RationalWiki:Articles for deletion/Draft:Music (film)

Draft:Music (film) | Result: Keep

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Delete

1. We don't need an article on every offensive film ever. Nobody will care about this movie by next year (hell, nobody cares about this movie by now). Yes, it has a terrible portrayal of autism but it's quite tame compared to the massive amount of actually hateful and/or offensive stuff out there. 主要行事月 (talk) 11:41, 8 October 2021 (UTC)
2. Never heard of it before + don't care. (Profile) - (Spoke!) 12:20, 8 October 2021 (UTC)
3. We don’t need an article on this. Even if we did, there’s nothing worth keeping in the draft as it currently stands, might as well start from scratch. Christopher (talk) 13:45, 8 October 2021 (UTC)

   WP:TNT. I'm ok with that, if there is another draft being proposed. Otherwise, no, TNT only works when something is ready.Andrew5 (talk) 13:48, 8 October 2021 (UTC)

Keep

1. Needs tone adjustment as it reads like it's emotionally charged, but otherwise I have no problem with it. It's still in the draft phase anyway. Nonstopmaximum (talk) 12:07, 8 October 2021 (UTC)
2. Has a Wikipedia article, won awards, notable. Just because we don't need it, doesn't mean we can't have it. No harm in keeping it, especially as a draft. Andrew5 (talk) 12:15, 8 October 2021 (UTC)

   To play devil's advocate, The "awards" in question were from the Golden Raspberries, which are supposed to be tongue-in-cheek Rockford the Roe ^{boop my snoot}_{praise Oscar Wilde} 14:23, 8 October 2021 (UTC)

3. It's a draft. ☭Comrade GC☭^{Ministry of Praise} 12:38, 8 October 2021 (UTC)
4. Surprise!-Flandres (talk) 14:07, 8 October 2021 (UTC)
5. We shouldn't nuke Drafts just for being Drafts. Rockford the Roe ^{boop my snoot}_{praise Oscar Wilde} 14:23, 8 October 2021 (UTC)
6. Could use a few edit, tonal shifts, refs, etc. but I think it's still a decently important article, especially considering how Sia herself treated the whole situation. As an autistic person myself I think we should talk about instances of ableism such as this. Jake Holmes^{yell at me} 15:25, 8 October 2021 (UTC)
7. Really needs to change its tone, but feels on mission and has some promising material and some good things to say. If it doesn't see revisions and stays like this then maybe a deletion is necessary, but I'm assuming that it's still like this because of draft status. armed_roomba (she/her)^{What am I doing wrong this time?} 15:30, 8 October 2021 (UTC)

   That's not going to happen. The article has not been edited since May, and the author (whom I presume is the only one really interested in this subject) is no longer active on the site. It'll just sit in draftspace indefinitely until it gets deleted sooner or later. 主要行事月 (talk) 23:14, 9 October 2021 (UTC)

   First of all, having an extra article in draft space doesn't do any harm. Second of all, improve over delete.Andrew5 (talk) 00:00, 10 October 2021 (UTC)

   But who will improve it? I doubt anyone here cares much about or is familiar with the movie, and it's already lost any relevance it had. We can say "improve over delete" all we want, but ultimately someone has to do the improving, and that seems increasingly unlikely as things stand right now. 主要行事月 (talk) 17:11, 10 October 2021 (UTC)

   The onus should be on you, to prove it’s either unmissional or to prove it can’t be expanded. I’m going to be working on Tim Eyman and I know nothing about it so I can’t really help. Also, what’s wrong with having an abandoned draft. If that was the case, plenty of other drafts, including Wikipedia drafts like wp:Draft:Tropical Low 11U (2018) would be deleted Andrew5 mobile (talk) 17:36, 10 October 2021 (UTC)

8. It's a crappy draft, but still a draft nonetheless. —cosmikdebris ^talk stalk 16:29, 8 October 2021 (UTC)
9. Plutocow (talk) 16:32, 8 October 2021 (UTC)

Goat

• Not sure if this is missional enough to keep, but definitely needs tone adjustment. Knight Commander^{In Service}_{To Her}^Goatness 12:37, 8 October 2021 (UTC)

  Fix over delete is always the answer.Andrew5 (talk) 13:02, 8 October 2021 (UTC)