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Put up or shut up, Oxyaena[edit]
@Oxyaena lets see some links to those coop cases for all of the people you have blocked countless alleged socks of, many of whom were probably completely innocent of you allegations. This is to include not only "Morris" but everyone else you incorporate under that "ban evasion" umbrella. I want to see how many of these people have actually been banned per the community standards. @Nutty Roux this should be interesting. Tronald Dump (talk) 01:08, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
- Why don't you mine the block log and present some specific examples of abuse? If you have such a big problem with Oxyaena's activities here, the burden is on you to provide proof, or shut the fuck up and stop wasting everyone's time. βcosmikdebris talk stalk 01:18, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
- This smells of pointless drama-stirring. Recommend delete. πChef Moosoliniβs Ristorante ItalianoπAsk about our holiday specials! 01:20, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
- I second @DuceMoosolini. This new drive-by account has so far failed to produce any hard evidence of DMorris being innocent... and besides, for all I know @Tronald Dump could be Morris trying to stir up drama on here. --Goatspeed. Fossil evidence of my evolutionCircularRasoningSee my experiments 02:16, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
- I am not accusing Oxyaena of abuse (at least not recent abuse) so much as challenging the validity of past blocks for "ban evasion" (see https://rationalwiki.org/w/index.php?title=User:Nutty_Roux&diff=2213277&oldid=2213276). Tronald Dump (talk) 01:23, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
- I followed the permalink TD listed, and it didn't even say what he/she/they/it wanted it to say; all it was was an innocuous-looking edit on Nutty's userpage. Their userpage. --Goatspeed. Fossil evidence of my evolutionCircularRasoningSee my experiments 02:23, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
- Hmm, lets see. Indef block on Morris was rejected here, and I can't find any other coop cases where a permaban was properly voted on. I would invite a link showing otherwise. Tronald Dump (talk) 01:29, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
- Why not stop now? Unless you want us to vote on a proposition, this is not the place to winge about Oxyaena.Ariel31459 (talk) 01:45, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
- I certainly took Oxy to tasks for this but I showed links and evidence of specific cases of abuse and comments from Oxy herself to support my action. You need to do that same. AceModerator 01:48, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
- @Ace McWicked this is all in response to this post by Oxy where she abrasively insisted that Morris lost a coop case with no link and called me a dick. I mean, I'm really not trying to get her in trouble, I just want to see her acknowledge she is wrong and apologize for calling me a dick when all I was saying is that I don't think she was really abusing CheckUser or anything like it considering all of the known false positives. However, if she continues to get so defensive and abrasive over the "Morris" stuff, then it's evidence that she has not changed and should not have the toolset back. Tronald Dump (talk) 01:55, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
- A new account digging up old drama... Well, that's totes not suspicious at all... βComrade GCβMinistry of Praise 02:01, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
- I usually edit as an IP but did not want my IP tied to this in case Ox decided to block me for alleged sockpuppetry, but why don't we just see how Ox responds, and if she responds in a civilized manner it shall be evidence that she has learned her lesson, and if not it shall be evidence to the contrary? I seriously do want to see a link to the coop case she speaks of, maybe I'm over looking something? Tronald Dump (talk) 02:09, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
- Uh huh... Sure... βComrade GCβMinistry of Praise 02:09, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
- I usually edit as an IP but did not want my IP tied to this in case Ox decided to block me for alleged sockpuppetry, but why don't we just see how Ox responds, and if she responds in a civilized manner it shall be evidence that she has learned her lesson, and if not it shall be evidence to the contrary? I seriously do want to see a link to the coop case she speaks of, maybe I'm over looking something? Tronald Dump (talk) 02:09, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
- A new account digging up old drama... Well, that's totes not suspicious at all... βComrade GCβMinistry of Praise 02:01, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
- @Ace McWicked this is all in response to this post by Oxy where she abrasively insisted that Morris lost a coop case with no link and called me a dick. I mean, I'm really not trying to get her in trouble, I just want to see her acknowledge she is wrong and apologize for calling me a dick when all I was saying is that I don't think she was really abusing CheckUser or anything like it considering all of the known false positives. However, if she continues to get so defensive and abrasive over the "Morris" stuff, then it's evidence that she has not changed and should not have the toolset back. Tronald Dump (talk) 01:55, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
- I certainly took Oxy to tasks for this but I showed links and evidence of specific cases of abuse and comments from Oxy herself to support my action. You need to do that same. AceModerator 01:48, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
- (Just to be clear TD, you do realize that we're not taking this at all seriously, right?) --Goatspeed. Fossil evidence of my evolutionCircularRasoningSee my experiments 02:21, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
Speedy archive for "Tronald"'s obvious lack of interest in presenting a case. Helena Bonham Carter (talk) 02:29, 11 December 2020 (UTC)