RationalWiki:Chicken coop/Archive70

Kingdamian1 → Promote to editor

So put simply, Damian is just not fitting in. I see a lot of fighting, and weird posts that are getting weirder, along with a generally crazy writing style sometimes involving shouting, and a general issue with people I know to be useful butting heads with him. Recently I am beginning to suspect Damian of harbouring far-right views, and this doesn't help. I suggest a promotion, but perhaps Damian will take the opportunity to negate some of these concerns. — Dysk (contribs) 21:36, 2 August 2018 (UTC)

IDK we don't really promote/demote for political views. We do have local crazy RobSmith running around as Sysop. He's gained a reputation as a shit-stirrer, though, such as dragging drama from Conservapedia to here. --It's-a me, 🎄LeftyGreenMario!🎄 21:40, 2 August 2018 (UTC)

I don't mind the fact he has political views, it's how often it seems to cause drama that bothers me. Really I would appreciate some solid refutation of the more recent posts that suggest he has views on race. — Dysk (contribs) 21:44, 2 August 2018 (UTC)

While he does introduce drama, this situation is not evenly remotely close to HCM.—Hamburguesa con queso con un cara  (talk • stalk) 22:22, 2 August 2018 (UTC)

Damian is not just a far-right person, he is an extremely immature person. Like did he ever graduate middle school immature. I know people in real life who are in high school and are 1,000,000 times more mature than he is. I'm not saying that just to be mean, I'm saying that because he is ****ing annoying, and to annoy me of all people is saying something. What a Wonderful World (talk) 00:40, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

Racism has no place on RationalWiki. I find the defendant guilty and pass a sentence of 25 years in prison. Grand RW Judge (talk) 21:58, 2 August 2018 (UTC)

Nah. I don't support demopping anyone unless there's evidence that the individual in question is misusing their sysop abilities. Kingdamian might be a loony, but I don't think he's been doing that. Chef Moosolini’s Ristorante Italiano^{Make a Reservation} 22:00, 2 August 2018 (UTC)

As Bill Maher once said, "Stop protecting your virgin ears, and start noticing you are getting f**ked in the a**!" Kingdamian1 (talk) 22:09, 2 August 2018 (UTC)

I will demop you for self-censorship. D:< --It's-a me, 🎄LeftyGreenMario!🎄 22:42, 2 August 2018 (UTC)

What do you mean? Kingdamian1 (talk) 22:47, 2 August 2018 (UTC)

The irony of someone complaining that others can't take harsh language while self censoring their own swearing is not lost on me. ☭Comrade GC☭^{Ministry of Praise} 23:53, 2 August 2018 (UTC)

I am not censoring. I just don't want my page to be filled with negatives. Especially, now, that there is a threat of me being doxxed! Kingdamian1 (talk) 00:02, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

If RWians gave a shit about swearing half the wiki wouldn't exist. In addition no one on this page has threatened to dox you. ☭Comrade GC☭^{Ministry of Praise} 00:24, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

@GrammarCommie You make an excellent motherfucking point. Chef Moosolini’s Ristorante Italiano^{Make a Reservation} 01:10, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

You should be promoted for implying "arse" has three letters. —Kazitor 03:56, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

I'm just going to throw this out there... here's a guy who has been blocked from two different wikis for being stupid and he has sysop rights, yet I'm someone who has over ten years of experience with vandal fighting and content creation on wikis, yet I can't be trusted with the tools? RW has always been ass-backwards, but how low can you guys sink? What a Wonderful World (talk) 00:36, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

@GrammarCommie It's not just swearing. I don't mind friendly swearing. People tend to dislike me. No matter how smart an opinion might be, they make stuff up. Just now, people call me far-right, for pointing out that NY Times hired a racist! On Wikipedia I could get all the facts on my side in discussions, still they wouldn't like me! Kingdamian1 (talk) 00:51, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

Dude, people are calling you far-right because you have a bad habit of parroting far-right talking points without critically thinking about them. And then you get offended when we don't take you seriously. The NYT stuff is only the latest. I would remind you of the "Abolish the Democratic Party?" discussion, or perhaps the "Democrats are stupid to oppose the wave of right-wing nationalism in America!" discussion. Chef Moosolini’s Ristorante Italiano^{Make a Reservation} 01:07, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

You might want to reflect why people tend to dislike you. Your thoughts are half-baked even after we point out how poorly-thought out your comments are. Your first essays are rubbish, being incoherent frequent all-caps posting (1, 2, 3, and of course, this awful screed. You call modern feminism and socialism a "mental disorder" and you crap on poor people and you seem to remain dense after people called you out on your words. --It's-a me, 🎄LeftyGreenMario!🎄 01:13, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

That was more than a year ago. Refer to disclaimer here! Kingdamian1 (talk) 01:16, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

Then say so that you changed your views so people don't get the wrong impression of you. --It's-a me, 🎄LeftyGreenMario!🎄 01:17, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

Why are you even bringing it up? Kingdamian1 (talk) 01:19, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

It is no sin to hold ignorant views if you are ignorant, however it is a very grave sin to hold them if you seek wisdom. ☭Comrade GC☭^{Ministry of Praise} 01:22, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

I don't hold those views. I don't remember why I wrote things more than a year ago! Kingdamian1 (talk) 01:25, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

What a Wonderful World (talk) 01:28, 3 August 2018 (UTC) ┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘Kingdamian1 has repeatedly blanked content on Kingdamian1's talk page that was not prohibited content or harassment. This and the recent previous coop case make Kingdamian1 worthy of demopping. It would also be advisable if Kingdamian1 puts the archive bot on their talk page rather than manually curating/archiving it. If after this, Kingdamian1 wants to regain the mop, it's simple: make constructive meaningful edits and stay of trouble. Bongolian (talk) 01:28, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

@Kingdamian1 You say you changed your mind on a lot of things, but those Bar threads I linked to are less than two weeks old. And that's the kind of crap we're pointing to that makes us think you're a moron. Chef Moosolini’s Ristorante Italiano^{Make a Reservation} 01:30, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

Wait don't desysop me. I have contributed a lot of mainspace edits and created articles. I don't abuse my sysop privileges. Kingdamian1 (talk) 01:31, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

@Kingdamian1 I still don't think you should be demopped. But if you want to avoid having things like this happen in the future, you should try being more self-aware, and you should try thinking a bit more carefully about the arguments you post here. Chef Moosolini’s Ristorante Italiano^{Make a Reservation} 01:34, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

I didn't say we should abolish the Dems. I said that, by their own logic, shouldn't they be thinking about it? Also, many respected sources have noticed the left-ward drift of the Democratic party. Kingdamian1 (talk) 01:37, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

1. That's not how logic works. That's not even their arguments.
2. Good, maybe they'll actually be center to center-left for a change. ☭Comrade GC☭^{Ministry of Praise} 03:39, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

@Bongolian wait, so you trust any talk page edit made through that account? *cackles* I have so much power... —Kazitor 03:56, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

What? I am talking about Kingdamian1's blanking of talk page edits by: Ikanreed, GrammarCommie, and Dysklyver.[1] Is there any dispute about this? Bongolian (talk) 04:04, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

@Kingdamian1 I'm pretty sure you've learned your lesson, but it's not cool to remove non-troll comments from your own talk page. Don't do that. Chef Moosolini’s Ristorante Italiano^{Make a Reservation} 04:06, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

You implied you trust the archive bot (and why wouldn't you), which I control. Just a lame joke, that's all. —Kazitor 04:19, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

If @Kingdamian1 will agree not to blank page content on talk pages without good cause (i.e., threats or doxing), I will withdraw my proposal for promotion, and perhaps we can close this case. Bongolian (talk) 04:41, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

I agree! Kingdamian1 (talk) 04:41, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

LMAO @Kingdamian1 how tf can you get all pissy when someone else supposedly threatens to doxx you and then go and post this? --Sins&Secrets (talk) 09:24, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

Vote

Strip KD1 of rights

*Threatened to doxx someone else after crying like a baby when someone did it to him.Can't be trusted as a sysop. --Sins&Secrets (talk) 09:24, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

1. For those saying he doesn't abuse the tools, look at his use of the block function He has used the tools to unblock himself in defiance of community sanctions, causing him to have to be put in sysoprevoke for the remainder of his block, and while I never thought I'd see the day I side with a troll, if blocking me for merely saying the Wikimedia Foundation had recommended a report to law enforcement (not a legal threat at all because I said I wasn't going to do it) wasn't wanton misuse of the tools, then why hasn't he been blocked for insisting he will get law enforcement involved over Grawp (while this community is saying the opposite of what WMF suggested, though I don't know the seriousness of these "threats" as they are suppressed from public record), because Grawp is no more a pain in the ass than Kingdamian1 is, who don't forget threatened me on TOW. What a Wonderful World (talk) 14:39, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

   Given the fact that you're the type of jackass who makes vague threats then runs and hides when someone bites back I think you should refrain from calling others "troll". ☭Comrade GC☭^{Ministry of Praise} 14:47, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

   Whilst I won't participate in this particular vote, I agree with WWW's earlier comment that it is strange that Kingdamian1 has Sysopship whilst WWW is seemingly barred from it.--RWRW (talk) 15:51, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

   @What a Wonderful World If you want a mop, have you tried taking it to mom's basement? Chef Moosolini’s Ristorante Italiano^{Make a Reservation} 16:13, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

   Adminship is no big deal. I just think it's idiotic that people are seriously spinning their wheels over whether a blatant troll should have a mop while an experienced Wikipedian supposedly can't be trusted with it per Cheeseburgerfarce, but this wiki always was mismanaged. And frankly that's a good thing, maybe one day the site will go belly-up over it. What a Wonderful World (talk) 16:28, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

   1. Unlike CP we actually think things over and debate.
   2. "Cheeseburgerfarce"? Really? Are you a five year old?
   3. If this site is so unimportant, why not just leave? After all, none of us mess with the train wrecks that are Conservapedia and Citizendium, we watch from afar as they burn in the fires of their own creation. ☭Comrade GC☭^{Ministry of Praise} 16:35, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

   @GrammarCommie What's wrong with Citizendium? I know it isn't popular, but don't you agree with its idea? Kingdamian1 (talk) 16:49, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

   @Kingdamian1 Citizendium is/was overly bureaucratic in practice, utilizing a top-down, micromanagement heavy approach to management that ultimately came back to bite them. Whether or not I agree with the basic premise is irrelevant to the reality of what Citizendium became. ☭Comrade GC☭^{Ministry of Praise} 16:54, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

   @GrammarCommie I never understood this Citizendium bashing. I mean, what is wrong with them. They tried to build a serious, REAL encyclopedia. Kingdamian1 (talk) 17:00, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

   ...And then all left to work for Britannica because that was a more serious and well funded affair. — Dysk (contribs) 17:13, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

   What they aspired to be and what they became are two separate things. Add to that that one of their chief founders left Wikipedia during what could politely be called a huff, and that they ignored people pointing out the flaws in their management style and one gets the impression that they never really stood a chance. ☭Comrade GC☭^{Ministry of Praise} 17:15, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

Let KD1 keep rights

1. My vote may change, but while most of what I see from KD1 is a bunch of JAQing off, I don't see what he's done so far that's an abuse of his sysop powers CoryUsar (talk) 12:50, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
2. stop starting coops for bullshits reasons. the only rationale is that this chap isnt popular. this is not a reason. AMassiveGay (talk) 12:53, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
3. Certainly nothing coop-worthy here. I strongly recommend new users have a thorough read-through of what it says up the top so they don't create unnecessary cases (this is the second case I can think of in recent history that was started by a new user). —Kazitor 13:01, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
4. The rationale given for initiating this coop doesn't come close to providing any reasonable justification. I would suggest, however, that Kingdamian1 refrain from feeding the trolls. That's what really pollutes the space and needs to stop. Just fucking ignore them. Regards, Cosmikdebris (talk) 13:04, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

   Kingdamian is a troll. What a Wonderful World (talk) 14:47, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

   So are you dipshit. ☭Comrade GC☭^{Ministry of Praise} 14:49, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

   Only on RationalWiki. What a Wonderful World (talk) 15:01, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

   Then go away and troll elsewhere on more fertile ground. Bongolian (talk) 16:16, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

   I was being sarcastic; this is not a troll account. What a Wonderful World (talk) 16:29, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

5. To be perfectly honest, I wish that Kingdamian1 would fuck off. But he hasn't broken any of our rules. Spud (talk) 13:24, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
6. Being annoying isn't by itself a crime worthy of demopping. Chef Moosolini’s Ristorante Italiano^{Make a Reservation} 14:39, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
7. This coop was started because someone got annoyed with my postings on politics, hardly a reason. Also, can we not ignore the conflict of interests here? There are people here who have personal problems with me. Kingdamian1 (talk) 15:33, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

   You shouldn't be allowed to vote on your own coop case. What a Wonderful World (talk) 16:31, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

8. RobSmith. --It's-a me, 🎄LeftyGreenMario!🎄 17:16, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
9. Kingdamian can be an ass, but can keep his sysop for now. Bongolian (talk) 19:11, 19 August 2018 (UTC)

Gyvres

1. Since I started the thread (yay me) I won't vote either way. As I see it the incident with Wonderful World was unfortunate, but given that a random IP troll comment was enough to generate the same basic response, this does not fill me with confidence. I hope that regardless of the outcome KD can learn to ignore the trolls. Whether KD is a troll is of course highly debatable, at the very least I would like to see less hornet nest poking from him. Especially on topics connected to racial issues, since mixing politics and race does nothing except bring out the ad Hitlerum arguments. — Dysk (contribs) 09:57, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
2. I will likely refrain from voting until after everyone else has weighed in. Please take this into account before archiving the page. ☭Comrade GC☭^{Ministry of Praise} 13:17, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
3. I was involved in one of these disputes, and particularly pissed at shit they pulled most recently. I don't think I can be a fair participant. ikanreed ^{🐐Bleat at me} 13:43, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
4. this shouldnt even need a vote. this isnt a coop case. AMassiveGay (talk) 15:32, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
5. maybe at least two sysops should approve of coop cases before they are brought.Ariel31459 (talk) 17:18, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
6. RWRW. --It's-a me, 🎄LeftyGreenMario!🎄 17:28, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
7. Can we close this case now? It's clear that KingDamian1 will keep the mop at this point. Bongolian (talk) 17:44, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

   Yah, let's clean the cage. --It's-a me, 🎄LeftyGreenMario!🎄 18:00, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

   Grudgingly yes. ☭Comrade GC☭^{Ministry of Praise} 18:02, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

   Ya to continue this here would be a waste of energy. — Dysk (contribs) 18:22, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

Bongolian's block of WWW

I wish for a wider-community review of Bongolian's infinite block of What a Wonderful World. Bongolian originally blocked WWW for 3 months and when I challenged him on it he told me to mind my own business (RWRW:MYOB). Since then he has increased WWW's block to infinite following an apparent admission of tampering with the 2017 Moderator election. I personally oppose this action but, to avoid a block/unblock war, I have decided to open this up for a community review.

I should also note that I have conditionally unblocked WWW allow him to comment on this case if he wishes to. I have instructed him to stay away from the RMF Election in the meantime. --RWRW (talk) 18:51, 18 August 2018 (UTC)

Endorse infinite block

1. Really, this isn't worth the time defending someone in sysop revoke (WWW). He's a troll plain and simple. WWW admitted: WWW stated: "Perhaps you should give it a little more weight considering I, together with a friend from high school, got Pbfreespace3 elected as an alternate for moderator..." (provided courtesy of @Cosmikdebris). WWW has continued with election ratfuckery in the current campaign and has contributed nothing of value to RW. Bongolian (talk) 21:00, 18 August 2018 (UTC)

   You've gotten a few recent mainspace contributions out of me. What a Wonderful World (talk) 21:13, 18 August 2018 (UTC)

   Yawn. They only mainspace page you edited was pregnancy. Bongolian (talk) 21:27, 18 August 2018 (UTC)

   Well, I guess the funspace doesn't count in your book. Probably because you are no fun. What a Wonderful World (talk) 21:34, 18 August 2018 (UTC)

Oppose infinite block

1. I oppose this infinite block, just like I opposed the original 3 months block. As far as I can tell WWW has done nothing to 'disrupt' the RMF election. I also don't believe his comment means he actually hacked the previous Mod election. --RWRW (talk) 18:51, 18 August 2018 (UTC)

   Hurray for you, this isn't Coop-worthy though. ☭Comrade GC☭^{Ministry of Praise} 19:12, 18 August 2018 (UTC)

   Actually, this is coop-worthy. Trying to review unilateral blocks is the whole purpose of the coop. RoninMacbeth (talk) 19:17, 18 August 2018 (UTC)

   @RoninMacbeth Given that WWW outright confessed, I am inclined to disagree. ☭Comrade GC☭^{Ministry of Praise} 19:20, 18 August 2018 (UTC)

   That's not your call to make. If Bongolian is correct in the application of the block, then the community will come to that consensus, as I'm sure they will. In the meantime, WWW is entitled to speak in their own defense, and Bongolian should explain their block rather than telling RWRW to "MYOB." RoninMacbeth (talk) 19:24, 18 August 2018 (UTC)

   I assume it was all done in the proper spirit. But, if a hearing is requested, is it not required? Ariel31459 (talk) 20:02, 18 August 2018 (UTC)

   Alright, I've been around this site longer than any of you people have, and this is just stupid. I was not ballot stuffing or anything like that in the moderator election if that is what you are trying to say, what I meant when I said a friend and I got Pbfreespace3 his position as an alternate is that I nominated him for the position, he accepted, and the community took it from there because I didn't even vote in the election, and to my knowledge, Ex-Troll did not either. I did the same with this election, and I was very transparent about it. It's funny, just like this site used to be. This site was never a serious project, and never will be a serious project; you guys still use the block function to horse around with each other, still mock people you don't like... The difference is now there's a group of punks with administrative power who have a chip on their shoulder and think they are God's gift to RationalWiki, and I'm sorry to say you're not. You know who you are, and you are actually idiots who need to get a life; if you want to play Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle in a serious capacity, take up vandal patrol at Wikipedia. What a Wonderful World (talk) 21:07, 18 August 2018 (UTC)

   And I'm going to add, you are wasting your time. This is not my first rodeo. On one hand, past accounts have been permabanned, on the other hand, I have a few floating around with sysop powers, it's just too bad I don't remember the passwords to them. I've also been a serious candidate for moderator, so hop off. What a Wonderful World (talk) 21:11, 18 August 2018 (UTC)

   Thanks for endorsing your own permaban, @What a Wonderful World, since you acknowledge that you won't mind. Go find another sock. Bongolian (talk) 21:16, 18 August 2018 (UTC)

   Don't mind if I do. What a 'tard. What a Wonderful World (talk) 21:21, 18 August 2018 (UTC)

   I'm going to add, I really haven't broken any rule here. Not with this account anyway. Not in a long time anyway. What a Wonderful World (talk) 21:26, 18 August 2018 (UTC)

   Thanks, you just admitted guilt. Be gone. Bongolian (talk) 21:29, 18 August 2018 (UTC)

   You're an idiot. You have no idea how RationalWiki operates, so just shut up. It used to be entertaining to read what people were babbling about on this site at least, people like you are making it so it's just stupid. What a Wonderful World (talk) 21:31, 18 August 2018 (UTC)

2. I have my reasons... RoninMacbeth (talk) 21:23, 18 August 2018 (UTC)

   Board material right there. What a Wonderful World (talk) 21:31, 18 August 2018 (UTC)

3. I believe that there's a heavy burden of proof for anyone who wants to impose a permaban of this nature. Bongolian has not met that burden. The only justification given for the penalty levied against WWW is a vague statement made by WWW which has been alleged to be evidence of "election tampering." I find this reason and evidence unconvincing. I have also seen no evidence of ratfucking in this election cycle either. Frankly, if this community holds that a user may be banned for posting on the elections board and nominating other unpopular users, any one of us could be subject to the same punishment. In short, blocking WWW for the stated reason and duration is a bad move. Chef Moosolini’s Ristorante Italiano^{Make a Reservation} 21:49, 18 August 2018 (UTC)
4. Permaban seems a little harsh. The most stringent measure I am willing to impose on this person would be barring this person from the elections, barring from nominating anyone. --It's-a me, 🎄LeftyGreenMario!🎄 22:32, 18 August 2018 (UTC)
5. No evidence this is a Russian operative. Therefore he is probably not subverting the elections. — Dysk (contribs) 22:35, 18 August 2018 (UTC)
6. Obvious troll, but I don't recall that ever being grounds for blocking. —Kazitor 00:30, 19 August 2018 (UTC)
7. Above reasons.—Hamburguesa con queso con un cara  (talk • stalk) 00:45, 19 August 2018 (UTC)

Goat

Given that I am currently editing from my phone, I would ask that I be given time to respond via my computer. ☭Comrade GC☭^{Ministry of Praise} 21:36, 18 August 2018 (UTC)

Now that I'm finally back at my computer I'll add my input. WWW has made it clear that he only exists here to troll us, has made edits exclusively for the purpose of disruption and division, has harassed other users, and has on numerious occasions alluded to a previous ban. Given this behavior, in addition to acting like a twelve year old when someone gets tired of his shit, I would recomend that we block this person, if not outright ban them. ☭Comrade GC☭^{Ministry of Praise} 22:57, 18 August 2018 (UTC)

Given that this user's probably already created a new account for disrupting and trolling, I don't see any point at continuing this coop. I'm in favor of a short term ban for asshattery and generally non-constructive behavior, but a permanent ban seems to be too much. Regards, Cosmikdebris (talk) 02:14, 19 August 2018 (UTC)

@Cosmikdebris As long as his inappropriate behavior is punished, I at least will be satisfied. ☭Comrade GC☭^{Ministry of Praise} 02:54, 19 August 2018 (UTC)

@GrammarCommie you call any of this punishment? You seek to punish people for inappropriate behavior on RationalWiki? Please, you sound like 17 year old me want to get people in serious trouble for writing "hi" on Wikipedia articles from their schools. You and Bongolian are tards. What a Wonderful World (talk) 11:26, 19 August 2018 (UTC)

@What a Wonderful World Yes, yes I do. If you did any of this shit in real life (you wouldn't, you don't have the balls to do it when your name, reputation, and possibly your life are on the line) I'd do worse. As it is the worst I can do is ban your account, or at least block it. ☭Comrade GC☭^{Ministry of Praise} 12:18, 19 August 2018 (UTC)

Is "I'd do worse" some kind of a threat? Legally speaking in the United States, the "shit" I do here would, at most, result in restraining orders or trespass warnings being issued, not jail time. Now, it could result in a fight... if I were picking on high school kids, drunks in a bar, or something along those lines, but generally speaking, no it would not. Rarely do peaceful demonstrations turn violent. What a Wonderful World (talk) 17:15, 19 August 2018 (UTC)

Sysoprevoke

What do I need to do to be removed from sysoprevoke? Rob isn't in it, nor is Kingdamian1, why am I in it? What a Wonderful World (talk) 17:43, 19 August 2018 (UTC)

Don't know, don't particularly care. Archiving. RoninMacbeth (talk) 17:44, 19 August 2018 (UTC)

Actually, let's discuss GrammarCommie

If you look at GrammarCommie's talk page, he was been trouted more than once for excessive force, and I have seen it first hand because he blocked an IP I was editing from for "block evasion" along with some silly comment for over 16,000 people to see should any of them have tried to edit RationalWiki during the block. Above, he says he wants "inappropriate behavior" punished. At what point does the mob decide to take away someone's mop for this kind of behavior? I lost mine and I have never abused a mop on RationalWiki. What a Wonderful World (talk) 11:37, 19 August 2018 (UTC)

Whether you're just trying to stir up drama is hard to tell, but it is true that GC is a bit overzealous with the blocking/protecting/reverting. But it is also true that, after mentioning this stuff on their talk page, it does seem to have become better. Certainly not coop-worthy in any case. —Kazitor 11:50, 19 August 2018 (UTC)

Nothing has changed, he still sees himself as some Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle here to punish people for what he deems "inappropriate behavior," as evidenced in his above comments. What a Wonderful World (talk) 11:59, 19 August 2018 (UTC)

@What a Wonderful World You have no idea how I see myself. But, I'll give you this much, it's not as a hero. ☭Comrade GC☭^{Ministry of Praise} 12:20, 19 August 2018 (UTC)

P.S. What's with the TMNT obsession? ☭Comrade GC☭^{Ministry of Praise} 12:21, 19 August 2018 (UTC)

Copycatting TheresaKnott on Wikipedia, who called me a "Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle" back when I was 15 and ran around Wikipedia with a chip on my shoulder acting like vandals deserved real life punishment. What a Wonderful World (talk) 12:51, 19 August 2018 (UTC)

You aren't a vandal, you're a troll. You've also engaged in behavior that if done in real life would earn you jail time. ☭Comrade GC☭^{Ministry of Praise} 12:59, 19 August 2018 (UTC)

In China, perhaps. What a Wonderful World (talk) 16:56, 19 August 2018 (UTC)

I think that's enough discussion.Ariel31459 (talk) 16:01, 19 August 2018 (UTC)

Enough

We have basically all agreed that WWW should not be permabanned, and the thread about GC's conduct has devolved into a series of ad hominems. I see no reason to prolong these coop cases, such as they are. Move to archive and forget about this. RoninMacbeth (talk) 17:18, 19 August 2018 (UTC)

Yeah, but it's GC that is escalating this crap. This was going relatively smoothly until he put his two cents in. What a Wonderful World (talk) 17:20, 19 August 2018 (UTC)

Oh shut up. I'm entitled to speak here same as you, you just don't like it when things don't go your way, so you bitch. @RoninMacbeth Agreed, let's be done with this drama. ☭Comrade GC☭^{Ministry of Praise} 17:31, 19 August 2018 (UTC)

Of course you would say "let's be done with this drama" you don't want to lose your mop. What a Wonderful World (talk) 17:38, 19 August 2018 (UTC)

You know who this guy reminds me of?

@Pbfreespace3 two years ago, before he lost his mop. Pb3 acted the same exact way. What a Wonderful World (talk) 17:41, 19 August 2018 (UTC)