Talk:Anti-Defamation League

From RationalWiki
Jump to navigation Jump to search

Archives for this talk page: , (new)



The lede[edit]

The lead says the Jewish adl is an NGO, but it isnt. See quote: © 2015 Anti-Defamation League. All rights reserved. The Anti-Defamation League is a not-for-profit organization recognized as tax-exempt under Internal Revenue Code section 501(c)(3). SissyMendelstein (talk) 08:08, 26 November 2015 (UTC)

From wikipedia: "A non-governmental organization (NGO) is an organization that is neither a part of a government nor a conventional for-profit business." So there is nothing in that copyright notice that contradicts its being and NGO. Queexchthonic murmurings 10:06, 26 November 2015 (UTC)
Apparently, SM doesn't understand that NGO simple means non-governmental organisation, without any demand that it be non-profit or a charity, but simply that it's neither a government agency, nor a normal for-profit private business. Hence why, for instance, Human Rights Watch, Amnesty, or PEN are all NGOs. ScepticWombat (talk) 17:33, 26 November 2015 (UTC)

Criticism by anti-Zionists[edit]

Curious about what the purpose of the part in parentheses is in the following line: "smearing Israel's political opponents as anti-Semites or worse (as if anything could be worse)." The implication being "what could possibly be worse than being an anti-Semite" which seems disingenuous either way you interpret it. Taken literally, it's saying being an anti-semite is literally the worst thing in the world. Taken sarcastically, it seems to be saying that being an anti-semite is relatively ok. I don't think it was necessarily included to be anti-semitic, but I just don't see what purpose it serves; it seems like a clever quip on the surface that doesn't actually parse to anything good no matter how you take it. I'll leave it to the community to decide if I'm right in my assessment, or if I'm a concern troll, or making a tone argument, or I just really love irony (all concepts I've learned a great deal about on RW). Thoughts? Gringodemaio (talk) 13:21, 20 October 2017 (UTC)

@Gringodemaio
1: Definitely remove it.
2: That analysis of the sentence's stupidity is delectable. 10/10. αδελφός ΓυζζγςατΡοτατο (talk/stalk) 13:42, 20 October 2017 (UTC)
It's hard to tell if that passage was included in good faith or if it was intentionally anti-Semitic. The person who added it has only made three edits here, and all of them were in October 2013 ([1] [2]).
At best, it's still a tasteless attempt at a joke and doesn't belong here. I agree completely with your assessment and removed it. Thanks for pointing it out, @Gringodemaio. CowHouse (talk) 14:28, 20 October 2017 (UTC)
It feels like a sincere statement that being anti-Semitic is pretty much the worst thing in the world which, yeah, is hardly accurate. —Kazitor, pending 00:57, 21 October 2017 (UTC)

How ADL views the Israeli military vs Palestinians[edit]

I was reading the "excessive force" section at the ADL, and their big picture stance seems to be that their military is precise, avoids conflict at all costs, and if anyone innocent is hurt, it's because they got caught in the crossfire vs Palestinians who they specifically say are "looking to kill the most people possible" https://www.adl.org/resources/fact-sheets/response-to-common-inaccuracy-israel-uses-excessive-force 108.70.12.24 (talk) 07:02, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

I may be starting some feuds here, but I do see comparisons between ADL and the Nazis[edit]

ADL want to censor and limit free speech, and so did Hitler. Propaganda is NEVER a good thing. People have been brainwashed for way too long. Of course it are not Jews behind everything. But ADL are taking it too far. 217.128.167.152 (talk) 23:27, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

That's a very shallow understanding of history and politics. Would you like to discuss it? ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 23:47, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

This page doesn't deserve to be in the social justice category[edit]

THe aDL is a racist organisation that hates plaestinians and openly calls for them to be murdered! It does NOT deserve to be put in the same category as feminism, social justice, gay, transgender, and black lives matter!! Catgrrl37-0 (talk) 06:20, 21 September 2020 (UTC)

I'd like to see evidence of the ADL calling for Palestinians to be murdered. Still, the page probably belongs with the Judaism or Anti-Semitism navbar more than Social Justice. --Annanoon (talk) 07:41, 21 September 2020 (UTC)