User talk:GR/Archive2

Cooping for harassment

Bear in mind that the community tries to avoid excessive conflict and simultaneously tries to avoid being heavy-handed. If you coop her for harassment you'll need to demonstrate that she has been harassing you even after having been given a formal warning. Then it will come to a vote. She'll try and call her allies out to support her, as well as any users who don't like you. Personally I'd wait until they freak out some more before doing anything--Hastur! (talk) 20:17, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

That's what I am talking about, exactly. RW doesn't care about harassment. You proved my point. Thanks for the advice nonetheless. — Godless Raven ^talk_stalk^walk_balk 🌹 20:19, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

Thanks From Ary.

Thanks for taking my side Mr. Godless Raven. I'm not a right-winger, I'm a social democrat like you <3. ^{— Unsigned, by: Ary / talk / contribs}

No problem @Ary! Keep in mind to always sign your comments, however. Also, I would be cautious with some users on this website. Many of them are far-left trolls and harassers that will attempt to whitewash anything they can get their hands on. Don't editwar (reverting edits over and over) and you should be fine. — Godless Raven ^talk_stalk^walk_balk 🌹 18:37, 20 June 2020 (UTC)

Thanks Sir <3. I liked this site and thought I could add some stuff, but I guess not. Ary (talk) 19:11, 20 June 2020 (UTC)

@Ary Please ignore any adverse notifications you may have from your userrights being changed, there was a brief moment of administrative misconduct. It's under control. — Dysk (contribs) 19:22, 20 June 2020 (UTC)

Thanks Mr. Raven and Mr. D. I see that bully Oxy has retired. Does this mean that we can add our contributions to the pages? Also, I realized that I should've sourced my section. I've done the research and have found multiple sources and I will write a similar but better section this time on "What capitalism is not". Thanks again fellas <3.

Raven

Restore the content that you deleted from the bar. I don't know if you did it by accident or on purpose but there was NO reason to delete any of the content that you deleted. Please return that content today. ShabiDOO 16:09, 22 June 2020 (UTC)

I don't think I deleted any content? I will check. @Shabidoo — Godless Raven ^talk_stalk^walk_balk 🌹 16:12, 22 June 2020 (UTC)

Ok, my bad. I have legit no idea how that happened, but it wasn't intentional. Thanks for letting me know. — Godless Raven ^talk_stalk^walk_balk 🌹 16:17, 22 June 2020 (UTC)

It's okay. It probably happened while editing an earlier version of the page. It happens. ShabiDOO 16:20, 22 June 2020 (UTC)

If there is still anything missing, please put it back. I didn't intend to mess it up and I would appreciate if you undo any mess I did. Thank you. — Godless Raven ^talk_stalk^walk_balk 🌹 16:21, 22 June 2020 (UTC)

User pages

Unless you actually are Trent Tmtoulouse - something which I very much doubt - you shouldn't edit his userpage in any way.Bob^{"Life is short and (insert adjective)"} 14:04, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

I removed from him the category:Biologist to category:Rationalwiki biologists, that's because otherwise it would show up in the biology template. — Godless Raven ^talk_stalk^walk_balk 🌹 14:06, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

Collapse templates

Please do not collapse random sections of talkpages. Collapse templates are reserved for content that breaks our community guidelines but has an attached discussion to it. This diff collapses content for being off-topic, which is not a valid reason to collapse. Techpriest ^{(I am Alpharius! / / / )} 20:11, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

You email

Regarding your email, you are still able to edit your own talk page. You can explain yourself here and (within reason), ping anyone whom you think should read your explanation. Bongolian (talk) 02:05, 5 July 2020 (UTC)

Well it's mostly you. @Bongolian I did not dodge the punishment. I left because I was upset, at that point I just thought an injustice was done to me and I didn't want to deal with RW. I already spent 7 days in exile and I have rethought my behavior. Yes, I do think I was incorrect and I handled it poorly. The option most people voted on was a temporary ban. Since among the options of temporary ban the 1 week one received the most votes, that one should've been the punishment to begin with. The goal for the punishment is to make a person change. I promised @LeftyGreenMario that I would behave, a promise I kept so far. It is really unfair to go full nuclear on me when 1) the mob did not choose that option the most and 2) when the assumption was that I dodged the punishment. You may assume I dodged it, but that wasn't my intention. Why would I do that in the first place? Permaban wasn't going to win anyway. All I am asking is to be given a chance that I will behave and now what seems to be just vindictive and bloodthirsty desire to flex power on me. Want me to behave? Let me show you I changed. You can ban me later anyway. @Ze — Godless Raven ^talk_stalk^walk_balk 🌹 02:11, 5 July 2020 (UTC)

I mean it was fairly clear that the consensus at the time of the coop closing was to block you for a week which is why I unblocked you after a week, certain people here seem to have other ideas tho. — Z 03:36, 5 July 2020 (UTC)

May I have the input of the other mods? @Ace McWicked @Spud @Scream!! @RWRW — Godless Raven ^talk_stalk^walk_balk 🌹 04:41, 5 July 2020 (UTC)

You seem to have improved from the comment though it'll take time for me to really be confident moving forward. I'd keep you unbanned but restrictions (keeping you on a closer watch) apply. The coop vote has always been very unclear to me but I see a week long block should be safer to go with than an indef one. --It's-a me, LeftyGreenMario! 04:51, 5 July 2020 (UTC)

Thank you, I will not disappoint you @LeftyGreenMario. I was just minding my business, editing my userpage, stuff like that. — Godless Raven ^talk_stalk^walk_balk 🌹 04:57, 5 July 2020 (UTC)

I forgot to mention: If the community wants a public apology from me, I am very much willing to do so if there is a demand for it. I am genuinely sorry for my behavior in the coop case and I regret it. — Godless Raven ^talk_stalk^walk_balk 🌹 04:58, 5 July 2020 (UTC)

When you left, the vote was split exactly in half. 10 votes for ban for a week and 10 votes for permaban. It could easily have gone either way. Your departure and subsequent return very much looked to me like an attempt to dodge your punishment. Under the circumstances, I fully support Bongolian's 22 day block. However, I do sincerely hope that you have learned your lesson and will move on. If you don't see everyone else here as your ideological enemy and if you don't try to pick fights with everyone that crosses your path over trivial matters, I do believe that you can make a very positive contribution to this wiki. Spud (talk) 05:24, 5 July 2020 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘Hi @Spud, the problem is that most people objectively voted for a temporary block. 14 temp block to 10 indef ban. Between those that chose a temporary ban, mostly wanted a 1 week ban. I please ask you to reconsider. I want to contribute and I am doing my best to be polite and at the same time honest about this. I have learned my lesson and I promised to behave. I ask for a chance, that is all. For the short time I have been here, I haven't caused any problems. I hope in good faith that this reaches you. I didn't attempt to dodge the punishment, as I waited for the 7 days to pass (which was the result I saw at the time). — Godless Raven ^talk_stalk^walk_balk 🌹 05:32, 5 July 2020 (UTC)

No. One more vote for a ban and you would have been banned. 22 day block is a lucky compromise GR. Take your punishment with dignity. Come back after the 22 days and people will believe and trust that you have changed your tune. Trying to circumvent or beg your way out of 22 days just says to the community that you haven't really taken their concerns seriously. If you keep trying to avoid this, or return to the obnoxiousness, I have no doubt the community will swiftly hold a coop to make it an actual ban. ShabiDOO 05:38, 5 July 2020 (UTC)

With all due respect, I have requested mod input to this. I know you voted to ban me and you hold a certain grudge against me, so please avoid creating conflict with me. I also don't want to cause any conflict with you. That was part of the promise I made: I would try my best to avoid the users that provoked me from the start. In regards to the math: The vote was split; 14 people voted AGAINST a ban. 10 in FAVOR. That means that the ban option is not supported by the majority. People like HBC also mentioned things such as the 2/3rd rule to indef ban, but apparently it is no longer valid. That means: the temporary ban vote had the majority. Among those that supported a temporary ban, those that wanted a week had more votes than the ones that wanted a 22 day ban. It is unfair and vindictive to punish me more than has already done to me. If the goal of the punishment is to make me change, I have changed. Everything else is just pleasure to flex mod powers on me and nonsensical. And again, I ask you civilly to not provoke me. I legit just want to edit the wiki and you have been consistently against me; we don't have to like each other to get along @Shabidoo. — Godless Raven ^talk_stalk^walk_balk 🌹 05:55, 5 July 2020 (UTC)

It's clear you haven't really changed. ShabiDOO 08:21, 5 July 2020 (UTC)

I disagree. I am being very polite to you right now. If this was me a month earlier, the response would've been different. See here, for instance. But it's up for the mods to judge. — Godless Raven ^talk_stalk^walk_balk 🌹 18:31, 5 July 2020 (UTC)

SocDem Network's Discord

Can I have the invite link please? I'd love to join. ^{— Unsigned, by: Ary / talk / contribs}

@Ary https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/User:GR/discord — Godless Raven ^talk_stalk^walk_balk 🌹 23:27, 15 July 2020 (UTC)

Thanks man! ^{— Unsigned, by: Ary / talk / contribs}

Sysoprevoke

I revoked your Sysoprevoke. Scream!! (talk) 21:29, 4 August 2020 (UTC)

Merci beaucoup. — Godless Raven ^talk_stalk^walk_balk 🌹 13:17, 5 August 2020 (UTC)

Anarchism

Can you please explain what exactly you mean by "Counter-productive edit warring" in relation to your decision to reset this page to the status quo? The only counter-productive edit warring, in my opinion, that took place was by people attempting to blank an entire section without making any attempt to have a constructive discussion. Not by me and other editors who simply attempted to restore that section to the page. In my opinion just because this page "is a sacred/holy page to some" doesn't justify that. Kiko4564 (talk) 21:16, 16 August 2020 (UTC)

Fine. — Godless Raven ^talk_stalk^walk_balk 🌹 21:26, 16 August 2020 (UTC)

Thank you. Kiko4564 (talk) 21:39, 16 August 2020 (UTC)

Discord

Why did you leave? Gunther1987 (talk) 08:10, 17 August 2020 (UTC)

Toxicity. — Godless Raven ^talk_stalk^walk_balk 🌹 08:11, 17 August 2020 (UTC)

@GR Examples?--Delibirda (talk) 10:40, 20 August 2020 (UTC)

You aren't in the discord (the support server). But if you want examples, you can join and I can link them to you there. @Delibirda — Godless Raven ^talk_stalk^walk_balk 🌹 10:41, 20 August 2020 (UTC)

Are you German?

Bist du deutsch? - Iwillprobablygetbanned (talk to me!) 20:36, 19. August 2020

Nein, Schweizer/Ösi. — Godless Raven ^talk_stalk^walk_balk 🌹 19:33, 19 August 2020 (UTC)

hey

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/User_talk:Kiko4564#hey can you help, please? Fowler (talk) 13:30, 20 August 2020 (UTC)

I can not, sorry. @Fowler A user has to vandalize this wiki to be punished, not other websites. If you do think the user is a concern regardless, please go to RationalWiki:All things in moderation and restate it there. — Godless Raven ^talk_stalk^walk_balk 🌹 13:32, 20 August 2020 (UTC)

To be fair to Fowler I did technically vandalise this wiki, it's just not in my contributions, as I did it whilst logged out. See my user talk page for more details. Kiko4564 (talk) 13:39, 20 August 2020 (UTC)

You're probably still gonna get blocked so I wouldn't get too cocky. Fowler (talk) 13:46, 20 August 2020 (UTC)

Well I'm sorry that you perceive it this way, but I didn't mean to get cocky. I was simply stating a fact. I've refactored my above comment. Kiko4564 (talk) 13:49, 20 August 2020 (UTC)

I'll stop feeding the troll now, bye Kiko nice having ya. Fowler (talk) 13:51, 20 August 2020 (UTC)

Well am I going to be blocked or aren't I? Kiko4564 (talk) 13:55, 20 August 2020 (UTC)