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I will check that from time to time. May miss a few days... Sprocket J Cogswell (talk) 23:10, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

TABA!

GAAAAAAAR!!!!

Flap, flap, flap, (drops rock) THUD, bites (ouch!), (*gasps and thrusts muchly*) Oh, Maratrea, Oh, Oh. Taba (talk) 01:16, 7 September 2011 (UTC)

taba.jpg

Wrong Wiki; you need to delete it from Wikimedia Commons before it will stop showing up here. ListenerX^TalkerX 03:32, 7 September 2011 (UTC)

Why are you deleting the image description page? It's not a duplicate, the image is still hosted on Commons, the RW image description page only serves to categorize the page and add the NSFW tag for filtering. -- Nx / talk 16:55, 7 September 2011 (UTC)

That's why I'm deleting it. Are you the NSFW police? 18:25, 7 September 2011 (UTC)

Well then you could've said that instead of bullshitting and transferring the file to commons in an attempt to circumvent the filtering. And an image with a penis in it is NSFW. -- Nx / talk 18:42, 7 September 2011 (UTC)

I'll figure out how to restore the RW version once Maratrean finishes censoring the image at the Commons and washes the sand out of his vag. 18:29, 7 September 2011 (UTC)

Campaign Manager

You're hired. Now go intimidate my rivals with the bat poop picture - on their talkpages..... Ace^ace 01:46, 8 September 2011 (UTC)

Wait wait, he said *I* had his heart. pouts. I'm heart broken now. --En attendant Godot 04:47, 8 September 2011 (UTC)

I get to vote at least 3 or 4 times, dear. You had me at hello. 04:50, 8 September 2011 (UTC)

Days like this, i need a Cast List to follow who's who and what's what. ;-) and I think I'm falling for Human, the old anarchist goat. En attendant Godot 04:53, 8 September 2011 (UTC)

Well, it was just Labor Day, so one would expect to see a little dust and dynamite from the proles. 05:01, 8 September 2011 (UTC)

When these dramas happen, i should remind myself that I'm old, and my hand has carpel tunnel, and teh best answer is to close the lap top. why is it I can never follow such sound advice. :-) Go ACE, I suppose. :-)En attendant Godot 05:03, 8 September 2011 (UTC)

Well, before I sign off to go to take a bath and chuckle at our doctrinaire colleagues' lack of prudence, let me say that I adore you and will forever be your servant. I hope beyond hope that I did not somehow miss a 5/4 vote that prohibits that. 05:12, 8 September 2011 (UTC)

eh

I can't photoshop cocks onto it. Fucking useless. 21:37, 9 September 2011 (UTC)

I fear the day when you learn to use After Effects. Occasionaluse (talk) 15:43, 10 September 2011 (UTC)

Does wikimedia commons have videos of cocks too? I dont want to mess with the porn industry. those cats are heavy.

Hurry the fuck up, scumbag. I'ma callin yo

Ace^ace 21:49, 9 September 2011 (UTC) Hey I know that track. Nice choice. Positive shit. But this situation requires some Misfits. If I wasn't in a boat in the middle of a lake in Indiana I'd post some. Fuckers. 17:22, 10 September 2011 (UTC)

Oldschool. Dilated Peoples is one of the best hip hop shows I've ever seen. The albums weren't that special, though. Occasionaluse (talk) 00:23, 14 September 2011 (UTC)

idea for you

here Occasionaluse (talk) 13:35, 13 September 2011 (UTC)

That's hilarious. I could get behind that, especially if I can get my bank to put that on my account. But I'm more interested in photoshopping dicks onto anything Maratrean. If you've got anything in that vein (get it? vein! a Maratrean "sigil" made of out big veiny cocks!) lemme know. 13:57, 13 September 2011 (UTC)

1, 2, 3, 4

Hey long time no see, bronie. The Clash always makes me happy. Thanks for that. Brought a smile to my face after a rough morning. 18:03, 14 September 2011 (UTC)

You listen to too much angry music

Light a spliff, throw on the headphones and lose yourself for a bit... --PsyGremlinKhuluma! 18:32, 14 September 2011 (UTC)

Fuck that. Occasionaluse (talk) 18:56, 14 September 2011 (UTC)

Psy's right. We should tuck our penises between our legs and hit whatever kind of club plays this delightful noise. 19:57, 14 September 2011 (UTC)

You Listen to Too much Angry Music

Ace^ace 06:02, 17 September 2011 (UTC)

Rainbows are God's way of frowning at gay people.

HAhahahhahhahahahaaahahaha Ace^ace 03:18, 18 September 2011 (UTC)

You liek geetars, leetle boy?

This will put hairs on your chest. --PsyGremlinParla! 15:52, 20 September 2011 (UTC)

I taped a glowstick to my dick and swung it around in the dark while watching. Three thumbs up! 17:30, 20 September 2011 (UTC)

That's an image that will haunt me to my grave. --PsyGremlinПоговорите! 17:57, 20 September 2011 (UTC)

I would do anything for love, but I won't do that. 18:19, 20 September 2011 (UTC)

RULES

I dare you to clicky on RULES and write some. sterile^talk 23:10, 20 September 2011 (UTC) ADD: ("redirected to Fun:RULES, because we wouldn't want plebes making rules. sterile^talk 12:36, 21 September 2011 (UTC))

Done. Pretty easy really. –SuspectedReplicant Support democracy - Ace is the REAL moderator 23:41, 20 September 2011 (UTC)

THERE AREN'T ENOUGH. YOU'RE CLEARLY NOT BEING SERIOUS. 23:43, 20 September 2011 (UTC)

I have improved it. Ace^ace 23:43, 20 September 2011 (UTC)

Damn. Now I'm in some conspiracy, I'm sure. Take away my rights! sterile^talk 23:59, 20 September 2011 (UTC)

Sterile, Ace, Crundy, Josh, Nutty, Human, Nx, Eira, SR, Psy, Ghengis, Jeeves, RobS, get on Skype now. 03:30, 21 September 2011 (UTC)

I am at work you idiot. You know this. Ace^ace 03:34, 21 September 2011 (UTC)

I was asleep. Well... actually I couldn't sleep for ages, but it was still far too late to be on Skype. –SuspectedReplicant Support democracy - Ace is the REAL moderator 08:15, 21 September 2011 (UTC)

Fuck. Missed it. sterile^talk 12:29, 21 September 2011 (UTC)

« dans tout gouvernement libre, les hommes doivent avoir un moyen légal de résister à l'oppression; et lorsque ce moyen est impuissant, l'insurrection est le plus saint des devoirs » 15:17, 21 September 2011 (UTC)

Do tell. Later. sterile^talk 20:58, 21 September 2011 (UTC)

I'll let you know what material I dug up on Brxbrx. You won't believe it. Ace^ace 21:00, 21 September 2011 (UTC)

I suppose that's what I get for using the same screen name everywhere I go...--User:Brxbrx/sig 21:10, 21 September 2011 (UTC)

Hurry up and reply to my email Nutty, I want to action it. Ace^ace 21:19, 21 September 2011 (UTC)

Chill out. I'm waiting to hear word from my buddy in Phoenix. 22:19, 21 September 2011 (UTC)

Cool Story

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA Ace^ace 04:18, 23 September 2011 (UTC)

Thank you. I'd like to thank the Academy, Jesus Christ, my mom and dad, the 18 inch brown trout I caught on 7x tippet, and the Maricopa County Education Service Agency. 04:23, 23 September 2011 (UTC)

Who's the Knucklehead, wantin respect?

Ace^ace 05:03, 23 September 2011 (UTC)

Goddamn I've been listening to that Raekwon record for 5 weeks. Genius make some genius records. 05:07, 23 September 2011 (UTC)

Oh and...

And happy Friday

05:17, 23 September 2011 (UTC)

This shit is badass

You like electro, right?

Ace^ace 06:22, 24 September 2011 (UTC)

Never mind Cuban Links

Shove this awful bullet up ya jaxsie.

Ace^ace 12:50, 24 September 2011 (UTC)

I listened to the first 1:45 but I think there's something wrong with the video. Every measure was the same. I prefer hip hop to skipping records. 12:54, 24 September 2011 (UTC)

Try this - old skool detroit funk.

Ace^ace 12:57, 24 September 2011 (UTC)

That's more like it. Why hasn't your wife kicked you out for being up all night drunk blasting house music? 13:27, 24 September 2011 (UTC)

?

huh? --★uːʤɱ atheist 16:17, 25 September 2011 (UTC)

SR construed your confusing statements as you wishing to have your sysop bit removed. You corrected him. I restored your bit. You're welcome. Cunt. 16:22, 25 September 2011 (UTC)

Ok then. Asshole. --★uːʤɱ pirate 16:23, 25 September 2011 (UTC)

Kumbaya, my lord. Kumbaya. sterile^talk 19:44, 25 September 2011 (UTC)

Votes

Would you mind weighing in or signing off on the proposed plan for procedure for the voting standards votes? Blue (is useful) 03:19, 28 September 2011 (UTC)

Take this raincoat and practice safe sex

Ace^ace 10:17, 28 September 2011 (UTC)

Politics and libel and whatnot

I'll chat about the whole thing again - I just won't do it there. So here is better, if you're amenable.

What is it you would like me to defend? Do you mean the general trend away from our anarchic roots, or do you have something more specific in mind? When I "libel" anarchy, after all, it's not out of any particular dislike for the way things used to work (i.e. Human usually got his way because he was the loudest and most persistent) but rather a belief that it just wasn't working very well anymore. While it did a good job in general, it fell disastrously apart when applied to any specific problem. No one was right and no one was wrong, there was just whoever was willing to sit there and revert the most, shout the longest, etc. In a competition sort of way, that anarchy is great and valuable, and should always be a big element of the site (as I think it still is). But I think we passed the point where it was efficient. Things like the "Trial of Human" and the dozen associated problems that dragged on for weeks are a good example of that. The scope was unlimited, everyone got upset and personally affronted, and so on. That's why I think the addition of some brakes was a good idea - ideally, the mods can now steer and slow such controversy, or even just avoid it if necessary, and keep the whole place still rolling. The engine will and should always be the mob - but hopefully now we'll avoid our frequent fender-benders along the way.--^talk 02:22, 1 October 2011 (UTC)

It's all platitudes, AD. Marcus may be right about you. "[I]t fell disastrously apart when applied to any specific problem" - Where? When? The specific problem that led to all of this was what Huw did that led to him being cooped. The entire question of the propriety of him decratting Blue was a toss up due to what may or may not have been a poorly drafted provision in the crat protocol. Blue immediately overreacted (because she's a self-important teenage drama queen) and here we are. That's it. From day-one I advocated addressing what specific flaws in the protocols led to Huw being lynched that people could identify. Go look. I wrote his defense brief. It's in there. Nobody bit. I feel like I'm in an alternate universe of shrieking children running around with their hands over their heads praying for cover. A few of you pushed your agenda of throwing the baby out with the bathwater and imposing what amounts to martial law at any cost and here we are with you happily giving lip service to anarchy like you're doing it any honor or you've got a fair understanding of what it even means. You aren't and you don't. I'm laughing when I read you say you believe mods are merely "steering" and "slowing" controversy when you've been quite candid with others about viewing yourself as in a leadership role, even pretending to show vulnerability in order to curry the favor of users here. It is contemptuous. I object to and will continue to object to any notion that moderators are leaders. We are not. I've invited you and anyone else to discuss the scope of our mandate with me. You declined. In the absence of your, no doubt, compelling account in favor of your approach, I will continue to believe that these people deserve more than to be steered into handing their own right to self-determination over to those in a role that was never envisioned to do what some intend. "The scope unlimited." Oh balls. A relatively small conflict over a rights issue got lathered up into a big froth by Blue and a couple of shit stirring assholes (who continue to be openly reviled by both sides yet tacitly used as pawns by yours because of their sympathetic authoritarian bent), and finally by people like you who took the bait and started viewing what would have been a week of rubbish as a life changer. Don't get me wrong. While this wasn't that big a deal in early May, it's a real big deal now. The only question is how we get back to normal. I will show you. You are on the wrong path. 03:04, 1 October 2011 (UTC)

With respect, you're slightly misrepresenting Human's chicken coop case. I did not request any penalties when I presented my complaint; SuspectedReplicant was the first to propose that Human lose his bureaucrat rights. I never created the furious mob; that was the combined efforts of many longtime editors. Blaming me and only me is a bit strange.

I would also like to know how you think you know my age, unless you meant "teenage" more figuratively than literally. Blue (is useful) 03:53, 1 October 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, that's it. We're authoritarians for wanting people to stop acting like douches.--User:Brxbrx/sig 03:44, 1 October 2011 (UTC)

Ah, I see!

Okay, so MarcusCicero regularly emails me to brag about whatever he is doing or to try to taunt me. And now I see that he has been emailing you as well, and forwarding you things I have said to him - because that's the only way you could have concluded that "quite candid with others about viewing yourself as in a leadership role, even pretending to show vulnerability in order to curry the favor of users here." The only person to whom I have ever said anything of that nature is him.

It occurred to me just today, when he emailed me ("Nutty got you good, huh? :)") that he had probably been doing that. I had thought it wouldn't do any harm to privately taunt him on those occasions when he reached out to me, but I can see that's not the case - he's representing my mockery as my hidden secret agenda of leadership and manipulation. I guess I have to just block his email, since he can't even be trusted so far as to not pass on private correspondence. Aaaand done. Feeding trolls is a bad habit of mine, but I'm working on it.

So anyway, let me try to de-poison you: I have never feigned anything. When I have used any sort of tactics, they have been fairly forthright. For example, I often try to use levity and self-mockery, and jocular personal references, to try to defuse a building argument or soften a rhetorical blow. Like in my reply to you on the debate page recently, I mocked my own tendency towards grandiosity by doing that <INSERT METAPHOR> thing - because I know I'm kind of a douche who grasps at metaphors and platitudes sometimes. It humanizes the discussion, and I think it maybe helps things stay a little more grounded. So to some extent, I guess I am guilty of feigning stuff - although not to any nasty degree, since I really do like most people on RW, you included, and really do know that I can be a pedantic prick sometimes. My admission of those things might be useful to ameliorating vitriol, but it's also completely true.

When MC was emailing me, he was engaging in the fairly common trolling tactic of pretending that he had won, and showing contempt for my impassioned words calling for order and bemoaning how I was being treated. And so I wrote him back, recasting the debate entirely, to mock him with his total loss, instead. And while I'm not concerned if you think I am wrong on a broader level about how RW should be run - we have our differences and we are discussing them - I am concerned if you think that what I told him was representative of the truth. Let me take this opportunity to personally and directly assure you: I have never feigned emotions or espoused a vision of the moderator role or future of RW that I didn't personally believe. What I have publicly said is what I privately believe - not what I have mocked a troll with! You and I have exchanged email as well, and you have known me on RW for a while - I like to think you can consider everything, and see that I am truly in earnest. In sum: I might be wrong, but I'm not being deceitful. It is very important to me that you know that.

So anyway, back to the topic...

I agree with your recounting of the "Trial of Human" situation, but the point is that it spun out of control, and someone overreacted, and there was nobody who could step in and curtail it. It never should have gotten so far and consumed us all in drama. Your defense brief was ignored and things snowballed. And that wasn't good, and it wasn't necessary.

I agree that moderators aren't leaders because of their status. Instead, moderators have tended to be highly visible and vocal people even before their role, and it's only in that capacity that they are leaders. You are a leader, my friend, not because you're a moderator, but because you're a longtime Rationalwikian who is clever, analytic, and outspoken. And just so that doesn't seem like sucking up, I will add that you're also way too abrasive, inclined to personal attacks, and relentless. Look at your recent commentary on the voting standards thing for an example of leadership.

I would never say that the role of moderators or their scope was unlimited. My condensation and slight rearrangement of the "role of the mods" deal at ATIM is how I see the mods. Our scope is most importantly limited in time - mods shouldn't be making any permanent decisions on anything but the most minor matters. Beyond that, it's just stepping in on rare occasions to curtail serious building conflict, and bootstrapping rules where required (i.e. deciding on voting standards, until such a time as we hopefully vote site-wide on some uniform standards).

I'm sorry you think I'm just playing lip-service to anarchy. I had thought I had demonstrated otherwise. For example, I tried to get as much possible input from the mob at all points before setting up a vote on talk pages - getting commentary on an essay, asking about standards, asking for comments on the vote, etc. And I tried to make that vote as even-handed as possible, which is why my favored option got zero votes. For serious, I believe what I say.--^talk 03:46, 1 October 2011 (UTC)

Pi's random thoughts

If I could have one rule for this wiki it would be: anybody with the spare time to edit RationalWiki shouldn't be editing RationalWiki, only people with better things to do should be allowed to log in. This came to my mind after I logged in one Monday morning and sore a couple of users had been on a weekend long drama binge. FFS I am pretty sure it is Friday night were most you folk live, go out to a bar or something. - π 04:02, 1 October 2011 (UTC)

I'm a year too young to go in a bar, and I'm exhausted from clinic anyways. I don't think that rule would work very well anyways, because everybody here, the "chill-the-fuck-outers" included, spend a lot of time neck deep in drama.--User:Brxbrx/sig 04:14, 1 October 2011 (UTC)

I'm sorry I can't respond. I know I've been editing quite a lot lately because I'm so keen on what a delightful place this has become, but I'M NECK DEEP IN DRAMA!!! I'm not out drinking right now. You should definitely not chill the fuck out. My god Brx is such an absolutely useless waste of flesh. Are your ears burning Brx? That's what it feels like when people in Chicago laugh at you. Bet it feels the same as in Phoenix. And here.^{— Unsigned, by: Nutty Roux / talk / contribs}

"[A]nybody with the spare time to edit RationalWiki shouldn't be editing RationalWiki, only people with better things to do should be allowed to log in."

This is true, and it's the great tragedy of the Internet. Oh, and it was Saturday morning for me.--^talk 08:09, 1 October 2011 (UTC)

Fuck Nuts

Ace^ace 11:53, 1 October 2011 (UTC)

Votes, again

I have revised my proposal for the procedure for the voting standards votes. Please go here to sign off and/or comment. Thanks. Blue2 (talk) 04:31, 2 October 2011 (UTC)

That limp-dicked fuckwit Nx

Has deleted your image and illegally prevented it from being recreated. I wouldn't stand for that if I were you. –SuspectedReplicant retire me 06:23, 4 October 2011 (UTC)

You're just cleaning house, right?

You ain't goin' nowhere or nothin'? B♭maj7 (talk) Medical science has confirmed that this is the worst head cold that anyone has ever had. Nobody has ever been sicker than this. Ever. 15:17, 4 October 2011 (UTC)

I second that. You are just culling the crap, right? Cause you better not be going anywhere! that's a threat, there, that is.GodotThe Peyote God awaits 15:18, 4 October 2011 (UTC)

Back in my day we intimidated and harassed users we didn't like uphill both ways in the snow. And we liked it. 15:28, 4 October 2011 (UTC)

Saves me the trouble of salting the earth behind you. Occasionaluse (talk) 15:28, 4 October 2011 (UTC)

You youn'ens don't even know what it means to harass someone. Why back in my day we didn't have no fan-dangled "in-ter-tubes" things.. no no, we had to do it the hard way. Real ink bottles to dip braids in. Toilet papering their house - I have scars from my paper cuts tping the neighborhood. YOu all don't know how easy you have it.GodotThe Peyote God awaits 15:32, 4 October 2011 (UTC)

I have just sent you a very important e-mail.

Check your "Nuttish" e-mail. B♭maj7 (talk) I feel worse than the Cordova Jewish community after what happened to them in 1391 12:58, 6 October 2011 (UTC)

Make me. 13:01, 6 October 2011 (UTC)

" Whoever made that stupid template go choke on a bag of dicks and die."

That's me. B♭maj7 (talk) Apple acknowledged that 137 workers at a Chinese factory near the city of Suzhou had been seriously injured by a toxic chemical used in making the slick green screens of the iPhone 17:37, 8 October 2011 (UTC)

Then go choke on a bag of dicks and die. How's it going otherwise? Long time no choke on a bag of dicks with you. Give me a shout. 17:39, 8 October 2011 (UTC)

DVDs

Only just saw your comment on my talkpage. So I presume you watched 4 lions then? The Fonejacker was class in that. "Who were on phone?". Have you watched any of psychoville yet? Crundy^{Talk nerdy to me} 15:37, 11 October 2011 (UTC)

Psychoville is teh awesome! --PsyGremlin講話 15:48, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

"The inspector thinks the killer may have a vendetta" "Ooooh, so he likes ice cream" Crundy^{Talk nerdy to me} 08:03, 14 October 2011 (UTC)

"What do you know about Tony Hancock?"

"I saw that Will Smith film."

"No, that was ridiculous, completely miscast!" Balaam (talk) 08:41, 14 October 2011 (UTC)

"You don't get that with mr fucking jolly" Crundy^{Talk nerdy to me} 14:30, 14 October 2011 (UTC)

The Fonejacker is a national treasure. 15:50, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

"National fucking treasure" - fixed that for you. Crundy^{Talk nerdy to me} 08:03, 14 October 2011 (UTC)

RevisionDelete

You only need to hide the stuff that actually contains private information. The username usually doesn't need hiding, unless it's an IP or you want to hide the fact that said user or IP made the edit (if the username contains private info, rename it instead, then hide the rename log entry), and the edit summary in a lot of cases doesn't contain personal information. -- Nx / talk 19:42, 11 October 2011 (UTC)

Speaking of wine

You haven't tried the Peach Chablis have you? I feel I must send a small bottle in my next care package. Crundy^{Talk nerdy to me} 15:15, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

Does peach describe the color or what you add to the Tesco grape juice before you ferment it in a plastic bucket? I must admit I've never had Peach Chablis. I assume you're not talking about a very dry Burgundy Chardonnay with subtle dirt overtones. These wines are more yellow/green than peach and contain only Burgundy Chardonnay grapes, so I am horrified that you're probably asking about fruit wine. 15:44, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

Do you mean to say you've never had dandelion wine? Or burdock wine? What kind of elitist upper crust running dog capitalist are you? --PsyGremlinTala! 15:47, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

I'm tired of pretending I'm not a total bitchin' rock star from Mars, and people can't figure me out; they can't process me. I don't expect them to. You can't process me with a normal brain. 15:58, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

It's not supermarket grape juice stuff, I stopped making that because tehmizzus doesn't like it. This is from a proper kit, £1 a bottle. There isn't much of a peach taste to it, it's more the colour. It tates like a light flavoured medium rose, leaning more towards a white wine. I'll try and remember to post some soon. Have you tried the two different types of cart yet or do you need a hand with how to refill them? Crundy^{Talk nerdy to me} 08:02, 14 October 2011 (UTC)

I've been meaning to thank you with the gift of something better than frozen chickens I've been sending that don't make it through the post. The cartomizer is great! Loads better than the individual carts + atomizer. I have so little experience with the things that I was never sure when the atomizer was shitted out, but I did finally figure out that the cartridges needed to be refilled so often that they were too much of a drag to enjoy. That cartomizer is tits. The tank makes me nervous. I'll get to it. Thanks so much. I'll think of some American specialties and send you a care package. 13:18, 14 October 2011 (UTC)

Was it the boge carto (the black one) or the clearo you tried? The boge are still my favorites at the moment. Puffing on one as I type :) Crundy^{Talk nerdy to me} 14:28, 14 October 2011 (UTC)

The black one. I have a syringe from when I had to feed my cat while he was dying so filling the clear one is fine, but it's still unsettling to see a volume of brown liquid that I'm about to smoke sloshing around. 14:32, 14 October 2011 (UTC)