User talk:PolarBearInTheJungle/Archive13

Go get Ace

No, I never thought I'd see the day, either. ^sshole 17:43, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

Me neither. And I really never thought I'd agree with it… and you know my position regarding Ace. --★uːʤɱ digital native 17:46, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

I plead certifiable insanity on this one. --★uːʤɱ socialist 20:13, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

"you know my position regarding Ace." Prone? (100 internets if you get the subreference)...P-Foster Talk "Go get Ace" 20:22, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

Bent over. Radioactive afikomen ^{Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments.} 20:25, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

I think I sent you some racy pics too, Stabby. Ace^Moderator 20:26, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

I sent you some racy pics. Check your email. Ace^Moderator 20:24, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

Replied. P-Foster Talk "Go get Ace" 20:49, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

Sometimes Ace is what is needed. Ace^Moderator 23:44, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

Since you seem to be listening to Ace all of the sudden, Ace told me to tell you to check your email. 06:56, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

Replied. P-Foster Talk "Go get Ace" 13:18, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

Nutty - are you hearing voices again? GodotDear god, fucking grow up 21:14, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

You live kind of in the Michigan area, right???

As a fellow resident of the Lake Superior-surrounding states, you may find this of interest. I was shocked and angered when I found out about it. The Symphony of Noise ^{The official spikey-haired skeptical punk} 15:34, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

Yikes. Tha would be less than ideal. P-Foster Talk "Go get Ace" 15:36, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

Jehovah's Witnesses

Jehovah's Witnesses don't believe in the crucifiction, they believe Jesus was tied to a stake of some form. For Witnesses the shape of the instrument is important. Proxima Centauri (talk) 21:22, 14 January 2012 (UTC)

Fine. I don't believe in God, but I still follow proper English convention and capitalize the word in the relevant context. And it's "crucifiXion," once and for all...UPDATE: I thought you were referring to a different edit...P-Foster Talk "a cheetos-eating, Mountain-Dew drinking vlogger living in someone's basement." 21:30, 14 January 2012 (UTC)

Tony Judt, and other things

Let us put the past behind us. I know you feel deeply sorry for your past betrayal. I now forgive you without reservation. When the reactionaries who toppled MCWiki eventually return the website to me, I promise I'll delete the article on Foster the Cruel. If you aid the mobocratic restoration, I'll replace the images of Dracula and Fritzl with ones of Mandela and Jesus. Please Foster, we desperately need your help. Your voice could be the deciding factor in the current revolution. Please Foster, I beg of you, abandon your present course and embrace the mobocratic restoration movement. Abandon all your aspirations to power and glory and insteady find a higher power - the mobocracy. I extend my hand to you - will you take it? 86.45.202.82 (talk) 22:26, 14 January 2012 (UTC)

Sorry about the crappy Photoshop :(

Heya, jus wanted to apologize in person (or talk page message) for my idiocy on the CP talk page. I Know i used the "Im drunk so let me get away with it" excuse, and i know that doesnt cut it as it was still a profoundly dumb idea brought on by a stupid misreading of a most likely sarcastic comment to shop Andy. In short sorry for any offence or annoyance caused, as I honestly did not intend to cause either, and I will try to ensure I edit vaguely sober in the future.

Sorry again Judge Holden^{The Judge Smiles} 17:07, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

Don't go down the road of pissing of P-Foster. I made that mistake two years ago and I'm still picking up the pieces of my life. I've been fired and bankrupt because of this motherfucker. Occasionaluse (talk) 17:17, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

Meh im using my roomate's laptop (ok he did sell it to be but same diff) so If he does track me down via the interwebz and turns up to deal some wrathful vengeance, i have plausable deniability :) plus I still have the aforementioned drunkenness excuse Judge Holden^{The Judge Smiles} 17:36, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

Probably best to stay drunk. You'll never see him coming either way, and at least this way, it won't be as painful. --PsyGremlinSpeak! 19:33, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure he has friends among the police, too. The murders are always ruled suicides, but how many people can choke themselves to death with their own hands? Radioactive afikomen ^{Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments.} 21:00, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

All the arm bones being broken is a clue. Though they always say that the multiple compound fractures are from a skiing accident. Ty^{Bother me} 23:24, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

If the basement wasn't so full, I wouldn't have those problems. Anybody know where to find some steel drums and some lime on the cheap? P-Foster Talk "a cheetos-eating, Mountain-Dew drinking vlogger living in someone's basement." 04:36, 17 January 2012 (UTC)

I have a 55 gallon drum in my garage. $25.00 cash. ArchieGoodwin (talk) 03:15, 18 January 2012 (UTC)

E-mail

Filler statement. Ty^{Bother me} 00:52, 20 January 2012 (UTC)

Rep. Ty^{Bother me} 01:26, 20 January 2012 (UTC)

Bastard. ChristopherS (talk) 02:52, 31 January 2012 (UTC)

Idea

DFHK? Ty^Annoy 02:31, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

Picture? Peter ^{Monomorium antarcticum} 02:34, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

(EC)Oh come now, he's not that bad. And there's really no problem associated with "feeding" him, so such a campaign wouldn't help. Blue (is useful) 02:35, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

He's no CUR or Brxbrx or Maratrean. I think he might actually have potential. P-Foster Talk "Watched Mad Men thinking it was supposed to be a sit-com. Found it disappointing." 02:37, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

How well do you know Africa

http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Africa/2011/0127/Think-you-know-Africa-Take-our-geography-quiz/Question-1 - i think I got ONE Of these right. I rocked on the Asia one... but south america and africa - I feel quite bad to say, but my knowledge is up there with Palin's. ok, a bit better than hers. I at least know it's not a country. :-) GodotGrow a vagina 18:11, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

That Palin comment was a fabrication. /Wet blanket Nebuchadnezzar (talk) 18:14, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

Well shit. that means palin probable knows africa better than I do. crap. GodotGrow a vagina 18:17, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

18/20 Africa, 17/20 South America, Ty^Annoy 18:22, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

I wrote my undergraduate thesis and my MA thesis on food security and famine relief in the Horn of Africa, and started a Ph.D. on something similar before switching topics halfway through. I've TA'd African history courses a few times, and i've taken 7-8 courses at the graduate level on African history or anthropology. So, to answer your question, i know a little bit about Africa. I believe I assigned that website to my students a couple years back to help them prep for a map quiz -- if it wasn't that one, it was one similar. P-Foster Talk "Watched Mad Men thinking it was supposed to be a sit-com. Found it disappointing." 18:28, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

One? ONE?! What kind of running dog imperialist lackey are you? I got 20, but them, if you threw a 50 states quiz at me... --PsyGremlinParla! 18:37, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

17/20, because I missed all of the "which city is pictured here" questions. Blue (is useful) 18:41, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

19/20. I guessed half of them from the stupidity of the other available answers. --★uːʤɱ libertarian 18:45, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

Well, in all honesty, i probably knew 3 or 4, cauese I know what Cairo looks like, they asked about the nile, and I'm up on the ivory coast just cause of modern politics. The other place I'm a horror show is teh "stans", (afganistan, i know, but only cause of world news), uzbecistan, Kurgistan, etc. GodotGrow a vagina 18:46, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

Obscuristan. P-Foster Talk "Watched Mad Men thinking it was supposed to be a sit-com. Found it disappointing." 18:48, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

(EC) But do you know the capital of Ubeki-beki-beki-beki-stan-stan? Blue (is useful) 18:48, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

No, but at least I pronounce Pak-eh-stan like a good american, and not like that muslim Obama who says "phak-ii-sahn." damned foreigner. GodotGrow a vagina 18:50, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

Tash something. Not Samarkand, which is an infinetely cooler name. Ty^Annoy 18:51, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

Hehe, the capital of Uzbekistan is Tashkent, but as Herman Cain will tell you, if they ask you the capital of Ubeki-beki-beki-beki-stan-stan, the answer is you don't know. Blue (is useful) 18:55, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

Do you know? Gotcha! Nebuchadnezzar (talk) 19:00, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

I just watched that interview and it so pissed me off. NOt because he says he doesn't really need to know the capital of some obsure country, but because he seems to think being president is a one topic job. "What does knowing X have to do with job creation". well, job creation is important, but when two citezens are taken hostage by pirates, you have to decide what is the best plan to get them out, and knowing something about foreign relations would help that decision. Ignorance is not your friend, for all the answers "I don't know now, but I'm planning on hiring people who are experts in each nation" is a good answer...GodotGrow a vagina 19:14, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘Ignorance is a positive trait in Wingnuttia, though. No pointy heads or Marxist academics allowed! Nebuchadnezzar (talk) 22:13, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

My head isn't THAT pointy. P-Foster Talk "Watched Mad Men thinking it was supposed to be a sit-com. Found it disappointing." 22:30, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

But if you're a pencil-necked nerd, you should always keep a sharpener around so your head stays pointy. /rimshot. Nebuchadnezzar (talk) 22:53, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

Binning

Why do you feel the need to censor me? AlicePaladin (talk) 23:16, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

'Cause you're an idiot. P-Foster Talk "Watched Mad Men thinking it was supposed to be a sit-com. Found it disappointing." 23:18, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

Africa, AIDS and child rape

Before I add this, and since you are the closest thing to an "expert" on history of Africa, I though I'd get your take. I want to talk about the "child rape cure" for aids, in Africa on the child sexual abuse page. But I've always wondered if that was somethign really happening, or just the American Media blowing one cases here or there and adding "icky black savage" to it. Any comments?

Honestly, I don't know. It could very well be happening/have happened, and be completely blown out of context/proportion by the media and our ideas about Africa. I would poke around UNICEF, HRW, MSF, ICRC, etc, and see if the expert busybodies have released something official with hard data. P-Foster Talk "Watched Mad Men thinking it was supposed to be a sit-com. Found it disappointing." 21:49, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

What happened to you?

Viz your comments on my talk page lately, and this rudeness. ħuman 03:20, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

Nice use of viz. I think the comments on your talk page were specifically influenced by my intense disappointment that you were editing MC's wiki, notably the article that compared me to a sex offender, and, like I said at one point, if I was mistaken in believing that, you have my sincerest apologies, and I hope that you will forgive me for assuming the worst. If it really was you, please go eat a bag of cocks.

More generally, those posts may have been influenced by a months-long pattern in which you became increasingly nasty to editors who did not meet your particular idea of what a community member should be, but why dig up old beefs for no reason? Speaking of MC, when I saw the subject heading you chose for this section, I assumed it was he that wrote it -- you're fucking channelling the man right there.

As for the second link, no apologies on that one. Robert is a troll, pure and simple, and I see no reason why hateful trolling that exists for no other reason than to have hateful trolling should be tolerated. P-Foster Talk "Watched Mad Men thinking it was supposed to be a sit-com. Found it disappointing." 03:31, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

Do you stalk me on wikipedia, too (you should, it's an amusing but trackable pattern of editing)? How do you feel about RWW, by the way? We pay for that trash. How do you feel about PsyGremlin using his blog - and this wiki - to accuse me of financial misfeasance? Or is a two-bit wiki no one but us knows about the only thing that rankles you? PG promotes his second-rate and second-hand tripe on the RW FB group.

My nastiness? It's hard to think of an easy way to show you, but starting about 8 or so months ago, my presence here was continually met with inveterate nastiness by a gang of 4 or 5 wizards and their acolytes. The people who wrecked the community because they didn't like the lack of power structure. Do you watch the election results? Take it as an omen.

We never used the word "troll" when we were grown-ups. Now it has become an all-too-handy word to dismiss those who make us uncomfortable. Nobs is hilarious. Strange and confused at times, but hilarious. ħuman 04:40, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

Indeed; these days the True RationalWikians^TM say "party-pooper" for that purpose. ListenerX^TalkerX 04:47, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

No, I don't stalk you anywhere, but I did have a strong curiosity about a website run by a guy who sent me numerous creepy/stalkerish and vulgar emails, and it was kind of hard not to peek at the edit history of an article written about my username. Sorry if that crossed the line somehow. How do I feel about RWW? It's silly, usually fun, usually not too mean-spirited, and completely irrelevant to this conversation. If you have a problem with Psy, I suggest you take it up with him--I read his blog, but do not contribute to it and can take no responsibility for its contents. If you think deliberately playing on stereotypes of non-Euro/Americans as savages as a way to get a rise out of people is "hilarious," well, I guess humour is in the eye of the beholder; as for how your presence was met here; I don't take any responsibility for that--I overlooked your disdainful attitude towards people who tried to ruin your wiki because I largely respected you and your years of contributing to this community, so please don't put that on me. P-Foster Talk "Watched Mad Men thinking it was supposed to be a sit-com. Found it disappointing." 14:51, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

Foster the Cuel, I often think of putting things on you. Cuddles, 16:02, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

Acts of hopeless desperation

So why/how are you doing a history Ph.D. if it is surely the road to academic serfdom? Nebuchadnezzar (talk) 03:45, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

It seemed like a good idea at the time? P-Foster Talk "Watched Mad Men thinking it was supposed to be a sit-com. Found it disappointing." 03:45, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

History (it was really more of a mix of anthropology and history) was my "secondary major" in undergrad, which definitely helps with spotting shoddy psychology methodology, but what has been termed the "WEIRD problem" runs deeper in the field than I thought. This obviously affects social research, but even very "straight" cognitive research is affected. The length of the Muller-Lyer illusion, for example, is affected by culture. I'm increasingly worried that the hyper-specialization and squeeze on the humanities in general in modern academia is leaving us with a bunch of little cloistered cargo cults cranking out high level pseudoscience. C'est la vie, eh? Nebuchadnezzar (talk) 04:08, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

It's always a good idea at the time. If anyone had a proper appreciation of what the end of a doctorate was like and where it leads to (or where it doesn't lead to, for that matter) no one would ever do it. ^postate 16:18, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

It is. I did not realize how self-informed my dept was, and how incestuous it was with Cal Berkley and U of Chicago's Study of Religion departments. We patted eachother on the back, saying "oh you have a lovely idea that is an outgrowth of my own ideas". Especially in fields where there is no real "hard core theory", no way of really testing anything. @Foster - are you planning on teaching as your primary income? or do you have some specific research grants in mind (I suspect there are a rare few history fields that actually pay)? GodotGrow a vagina 16:23, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

Heh. I want to go to Grad school and then teach. But I'm not in the humanities so yeah. Ty^Annoy 16:44, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

More specifically...

What kind of history are you specializing in? I'm kind of under the impression it's African history. Sam ^Tally-ho! 01:16, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

I work on African diaspora stuff now--radical political movements. P-Foster Talk "Watched Mad Men thinking it was supposed to be a sit-com. Found it disappointing." 01:30, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

Man period

I was going to think up a word for that, but then I realized that it's already called menstruation, so I'm not sure... F_lint^{talk to me :D|see my shit} 04:04, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

Superbowl

If non-Americans or Andy Schlafly think beating up on Superbowl watchers is a winning issue with the electorate, I'm with Obama on this one. nobs^Moderated 22:07, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

I have no interest in what you think. Thanks for your contribution. P-Foster Talk "Watched Mad Men thinking it was supposed to be a sit-com. Found it disappointing." 22:16, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

Say...

Have you spoken to our friend GMcN lately? Occasionaluse (talk) 20:05, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

Not bloody likely. P-Foster Talk "Watched Mad Men thinking it was supposed to be a sit-com. Found it disappointing." 22:29, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

FWIW

I agree with you. Ace^Moderator 22:19, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

That successful troll is successful? Or that I'm a thin-skinned aspie? P-Foster Talk "Watched Mad Men thinking it was supposed to be a sit-com. Found it disappointing." 22:29, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

No, I agree with you that we shouldn't have to put up with some dick who provides nothing but inflammatory speech and targeted, borderline abusive, trolling. Ace^Moderator 22:36, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

I agree also. Refugee^{talk page} 02:44, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

I've been wondering...

How's the cat doing these days? I don't know why he stuck in my mind, maybe it was the story about the incompetent veterinarian. Hope all is well. Refugee^{talk page} 02:46, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

Wow--thanks for remembering and asking. He's fine. Incompetent vet fired, three days after seeing competent vet he was pretty much 100% and has never looked back. He is cursed with a heart murmur, so it might be a short ride for him, but these days he's his normal mouse-killing, on-the-couch-snuggling self. P-Foster Talk "Watched Mad Men thinking it was supposed to be a sit-com. Found it disappointing." 15:20, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

I'm glad to hear he is still around and doing ok! :-) Refugee^{talk page} 17:52, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

You've become increasingly imperious

Its pretty sad to see how you've degenerated into this hate filled characters who gets his kicks by banning people and enforcing intellectual and ideological conformity. Rationalwiki truly is dead, and you're probably the main cause of its demise. Foster the Cruel indeed. ^{— Unsigned, by: MarcusCicero / talk / contribs}

Hi Marcus. P-Foster Talk "Watched Mad Men thinking it was supposed to be a sit-com. Found it disappointing." 16:47, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

Yeah hey dude. Your wiki was pretty successful Marcus. Ace^Moderator 20:00, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

You people are such idiots. My wiki was never intended to be successful. It was intended to call you out for your authoritarianism. Foster has such a low regard for dissenting opinions and eccentric individuals that he can't help himself but be repressive and fascistic. Its distressing how far this site has strayed from its initial purpose. Foster has assumed the mantle of an egregious authoritarian incapable of tolerating dissent. Rob makes a few innocuous statements and Foster wants him banned? It beggars belief. I really am sorry at the turn this site has taken. Your great posters have long abandoned you in disgust and all you have left is the petty tyrants like Foster. You can't help but enforce your own doctrines of hate and miasma. Ace pretends to live a libertine lifestyle but thinks like the stifling mediocrities who are enemies to humanistic individualism. You should read 'One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest' by Ken Kesey. Foster often reminds me of Nurse Ratched. And I often remind myself of McMurphy. You pack of cunts. I'll always be here. I'll always be here to remind you of the terrible injustices you've perpetrated. I'll always be here as a reminder of humanistic individualism. Fuck you all. ^{— Unsigned, by: MarcusCicero / talk / contribs}

Hi, Marcus. P-Foster Talk ""Santorum is the cream rising to the top."" 01:29, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

Foster, you know my critiques are prescient and insightful. You have said so before. You're a monstrous individual and eventually RW will tire of your petty tyrannies. ^{— Unsigned, by: Occasionaluse / talk / contribs}

I prefered Sometimes a Great Notion to Cuckoo's Nest. Ace^Moderator 03:02, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

I haven't read it (Great Notion that is, Cuckoo's Nest I have read). I might download it to my kindle and read it when I have the time. - π 03:05, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

You're not fooling anyone Ace. You've never had the patience or intelligence to ever appreciate great literature. You recently ran as a mod on an anti Nx platform but substantively you're no different to him. You have no understanding of personal liberty and regularly hold contradictory philosophical positions. You are beneath contempt and a hypocrite. I will always be here. You'll never be able to kid rid of me. I'll always be here. To speak truth to power. Wherever there is a Strom Thurmond, there is a Martin Luther King. A Hitler, a Churchill. A Psygremlin, a Nelson Mandela. Beware - history finds you both odious and contemptible. And quite expendable.^{— Unsigned, by: HeartOfGold / talk / contribs}

You are quite right, I never really enjoyed the great's of old (though I do have a copy of The Odyssey which I read periodically) , I was more partial to contemporary beat writers like Kerouac and the new journalism movement as personified by Thompson, Wolfe and Timothy Crouse. The only books I don't read are modern thrillers like you Dan Browns. Ace^Moderator 03:14, 12 February 2012

You really are an imbecile Ace. Kerouac is universally regarded as a halfwit who cashed in on contemporary demands for the shrill and the shocking. Your contempt for free speech, humanism and liberty would disgust all the writers you've mentioned above. You lack even the most basic awareness of your own despicable hypocrisy.^{— Unsigned, by: Nutty Roux / talk / contribs}

Ace^Moderator 03:21, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

"I, for one, welcome our new Imperious overlord. I'd like to remind him as a trusted Creationist, I can be helpful in rounding up others to toil in his salt mines--il'Dictator Mikal (talk) 03:08, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

Does the above tripe really pass for witty banter nowadays? Rationalwiki really has degenerated beyond recognition.^{— Unsigned, by: Newton / talk / contribs}

I found it funny, thats all that matters to me. --il'Dictator Mikal (talk) 03:14, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

Pretty piss poor when you have to explain a joke. [1] nobs^{We Are the 91.6% (still employed)!!!} 05:12, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

Halfwit.^{— Unsigned, by: Human / talk / contribs}

love you tooil'Dictator Mikal (talk) 03:21, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

So all of these "unsigned" templates are lies and it's just Ace and P-F frotting? ħuman 03:55, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

All of the "unsigned" templates are from a BON that is riffing off of MC's typical tropes. P-Foster Talk ""Santorum is the cream rising to the top."" 04:17, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

Of course it is, fucktard. ^{— Unsigned, by: Bob M / talk / contribs}

I love the way Foster dismisses valid critiques as 'typical tropes'. I've told you many times before but I'm NEVER going to go away. I am an idea, and ideas can not die. I am the embodiment of humanistic individualism. Ignore me at your peril.^{— Unsigned, by: Kels / talk / contribs}

Clarity is worth reverting?

[2]. What I know is that when I read that first example, I was taken aback by it, I wondered for a moment what it was, until I read the footnote. What else might it be? God knows what else, whats the harm with a subject header, "Examples of the confusion"? Since you apparently care, enough to revert what was certainly harmless, and since I don't, fine with me if you want to insist. --Abd (talk) 01:48, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

Really? You needed the footnote to figure that one out? Wow. The article is titled "Confusion of the inverse." It would only follow that any examples in the article would be examples of the subject at hand, which is the confusion. If you honestly think that that's too big of an intellectual leap for you and our other readers, I suppose you might want to change it, to prevent people from expecting examples of completely unrelated topics to somehow crop up in an article. And then you might want to be thorough and add a similar disclaimer to every other one of our articles with an "example" sub-header, in order to prevent similar mix-ups. That ought to keep you busy for a while. P-Foster Talk ""Santorum is the cream rising to the top."" 01:53, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

Logically, you are correct. Practically, as to what good editing is, you are not. By "good editing," I mean what professional editors do, avoiding interpretive traps that slow down reading. Only one reader in ten might make that transient mistake. Most wouldn't do anything about it, and most wouldn't tell you.

I did not "need the footnote to figure it out." I simply told you the time sequence of my process, I was aware of a disconnect, of alternate interpretations, the footnote cleared it up as to the intention of the article. I already assumed it as probable that it was an example of the confusion, but ... Remember, I just came from reading Conservapedia, where one might find a statement like that example that is dead serious.

People generally and normally go through interpretive process with all language, but especially written language. Puns are based on this, and people who are relatively conscious of the rapid sequence of alternatives are good at coming up with puns. But all people do it, it's essential to language processing, and writing that avoids or shortens ambiguity by a little redundancy is more efficiently understood than writing without any redundancy, except in rare situations, i.e., pure math, etc. --Abd (talk) 02:18, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

tl/dr. Thank you for your contributions. P-Foster Talk ""Santorum is the cream rising to the top."" 02:22, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

You are welcome. --Abd (talk) 02:40, 13 February 2012 (UTC)