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Discussion about the article, unrelated to gamergate, but related to the reviewing of games[edit]

"Pointing out issues with race, gender, and sexuality in video games' stories should be just as important as highlighting game breaking bugs, terrible graphics, and subpar gameplay."

I don't think that terrible graphics is an as important issue as subpar gameplay already. Extra Credits has already pointed out that graphics are there to serve the aesthetics. Terrible graphics are a non-issue if the game itself is still pleasing to look at and good graphics don't sell a pleasing aesthetic.

Game breaking bugs are also only an issue if they are unavoidable. Pokemon red has a ton of game breaking bugs, but it's not spectacularly awful because of them as they are avoidable if you play through the game how the developer intended. It is somewhat misleading to add it there.

Issues with race, gender and sexuality in video game stories is definitely an important issue that deserves addressing, but it can only work if the game already needs a story to begin with to introduce people to the gameplay. Extra Credits has already pointed out that it's a bad idea to make a game based on a storyline that people have in mind and shoehorning in the gameplay later.

If I had to literally rewrite only this paragraph it would be like this: "Issues with Race, Gender and Sexuality in video game stories definitely can not claim to be as important as an issue as subpar gameplay, but it should be brought up more often than other things that people often complain about despite being at their core trivial issues, such as terrible graphics."

Hex4 talk 21:13 30 november 2016

Hmmm... I do not know, a little bit of anedoctal evidence...--Delibirda (talk) 18:15, 22 November 2019 (UTC)

Ethics in journalism, Neutrality Reporting and Censoring the opposing Narratives[edit]

A Quick brief so that this is actually included here instead of having even this part of the wiki co-opted by people trying to push a narrative;

firstly here is the addition i sought to add the the actual gamergate article after finding it to be horribly disingenuous ::

"GAMERGATE : The below account is only half the story, check your research and your integrity, you know maybe try to actually get the opinion of a pro GG'er instead of getting your information from the other wiki pages....

So #GamerGate started following a scandel around a games designer getting undue positive attention for a wholely underwhelming text based rpg after they engaged in explicit relations with writers and/or critics.

The below suggests that alot of harassment took place from the gaming community and basically concludes that games are sexist etc. because of this. Well, here are the official FBI reports on the matter :

Thats right internet, gamers do our own journalism now.

I left the original article intact for those who wish to see what the other side thinks (despite the fact that their narrative is basically labelling and adhom attacks, you only need to read the sort of "terrifying and fearful" language they use to know exactly whats going on here...) "

Clearly the perspective of an actual gamer is to much truth for the modders....— Unsigned, by: / talk / contribs

Uh. No. Drink, perhaps? Zero (talk - contributions) 14:29, 8 March 2018 (UTC)
this article could be considered for an award for most biased ever, and this is from someone who couldnt hate 4chan and the 'people' there more — Unsigned, by: / talk
No. GG has proven its own claims to be falsehoods. There is no more debate on this matter. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 16:20, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
Additionally, we've been called "biased" by pretty much everyone, despite our self-awareness of it. You have to make better arguments than accusing us of bias. --It's-a me, Lgm sigpic.png LeftyGreenMario! 18:14, 12 November 2018 (UTC)

The official FBI Report on Gamergate[edit]

I suggest anyone who is reading this "talk" read the report from the FBI to know that every acusation that was investigated ultimately boiled down to baseless trolling and one really sorry/apologetic 15yr old gamer who joined onto gamergate in late 2014.

I would also argue that gamergate has been around unofficially since the early 2010's ever since atheism+ failed and the feminists began trying to co-opt a different group.

at least thats how long ive been watching this bullshit unfold its just unfortunate that i am both an atheist and a gamer....— Unsigned, by: / talk

Gators suspiciously quiet about Donald's attack on games[edit]

Has anyone else noticed this? Zero (talk - contributions) 14:30, 8 March 2018 (UTC)

Hear the cries of Gamergators being "slandered by NBC[edit]

Yeah This is just a stupid rant, Well I got a link from Breitbart proving they Gamergate hates the media, but I digress.i Wait? GG is still alive? I should have thought it sooner.MysteryMan9000 (talk) 02:00, 21 June 2018 (UTC)

Edit request: change "two fucking years" to "three fucking years" under "Death" section[edit]

I would do it myself, but I don't have the permissions and don't know what permissions I need :)

Happy 2018. --Vaskuwuqu (talk) 15:03, 8 September 2018 (UTC)

Study of GG demographics[edit]

[1] - peer reviewed too. The author mentioned it to @rationawiki on twitter - David Gerard (talk) 16:09, 3 April 2020 (UTC)


Please discuss nominating the article to gold here, and please point out violations to the criteria here--Delibirda the Annoying Grammar Nazi (talk) 10:49, 14 April 2020 (UTC)

Seems this got overlooked. I can attest to this article being a "go to resource", since that's basically what it is and it's the best one I found on the internet when I was looking up stuff about Gamergate. Missionality; not even in question. The amount of crankery attached to this shitshow is honestly impressive. References galore, so that's not an issue either. Maybe some minor work could be done to keep "transient resources" preserved by using the templates we have dedicated to those, but otherwise I'd say "why didn't we frontpage this a while ago". Techpriest (I am Alpharius! / Pencil.png / Tux icon.png / Shield.png) 18:31, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
I don't see a reason why not, its probably the most comprehensive post about it on the internet at this point Vorarchivist (talk) 18:37, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
Sources seem good and properly formatted. Wouldn't oppose promotion to gold. Pizza SLICE.gifChef Moosolini’s Ristorante ItalianoMake a Reservation 18:51, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
Is the subject matter still relevant to current events? I figure it carries a legacy, but the movement is dead. I figure some of the criteria for gold include relevancy to mission? --It's-a me, Lgm sigpic.png LeftyGreenMario! 21:01, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
Citizendium and Kent Hovind are gold brains--Hastur! (talk) 21:02, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
It still comes up a lot in discussions of how the internet has become a much more toxic place. I think it has a lasting legacy. Pizza SLICE.gifChef Moosolini’s Ristorante ItalianoMake a Reservation 21:03, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
It's the prototype for almost all modern hate campaigns directed by the alt-right I'd say. The blueprint from which their attacks are all based on. Techpriest (I am Alpharius! / Pencil.png / Tux icon.png / Shield.png) 21:35, 11 September 2020 (UTC)

Talkpage protection[edit]

Does this article need to have an indefinitely protected talkpage? Would seem weird to have a gold article with an inaccessible talkpage. Pizza SLICE.gifChef Moosolini’s Ristorante ItalianoMake a Reservation 18:52, 11 September 2020 (UTC)

Just autoconfirmed protection, probably because GG is rather infamous for dragging in sealions and other bad faith editors. Techpriest (I am Alpharius! / Pencil.png / Tux icon.png / Shield.png) 19:05, 11 September 2020 (UTC)