RationalWiki:Articles for deletion/White flight

White flight | Result: Keep

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1. Again, I fail to understand. One of the more obvious side effects of entrenched racism. Smerdis of Tlön, wekʷōm teḱsos. 17:02, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
2. This article currently reads like an opinion piece and desperately needs citations and more depth. Despite these issues I think the subject is missional and should be kept. —cosmikdebris ^talk stalk 17:27, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
3. Kevlar is an idiot. — Oxyaena ^Harass 17:28, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

   Piss off, nobody like you.Kevlarstar and his dog (Woof!) 18:37, 23 January 2021 (UTC)^{— Unsigned, by: Kevlarstar / talk / contribs}

   There was only four people on that talk page. Apparently on a wiki with hundreds of people four of them speak for everyone. — Oxyaena ^Harass 18:50, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

   Also, Argumentum ad populum is a fallacy and I say that as one of those four people on that talk page. I don't dislike Oxy any more than I dislike Kevlar. Both of you can be obnoxious in your own ways. Knight Commander^{In Service}_{To Her}^Goatness 18:53, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

4. We're not promoting it, we're documenting it and bringing up the reasons to the trend that white nationalists don't want to mention (like it being partly due to white racism and social inequality between the races. I agree with Cosmik that this needs to be sourced and expanded, but please stop wasting our time and bandwidth like this Kevlarstar. Knight Commander^{In Service}_{To Her}^Goatness 17:30, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

   Ok, then we should rather merge it with the white genocide article. Kevlarstar and his dog (Woof!) 17:57, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

   Better as its own article once properly referenced. Knight Commander^{In Service}_{To Her}^Goatness 18:10, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

5. Missional, afaik a separate concept from white genocide-Hastur! (talk) 18:00, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
6. Needs improvement but deletion is absurd.-Flandres (talk) 18:21, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
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8. Seems missional AF and has importance related to other race topics (but not to white genocide AFAIK). Kevlarstar could you please explain your position a bit more? I would like to understand what is going on. SolPyre (talk) 19:23, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

Bongolian (talk) 20:26, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

Merge/redirect

1. Merge it with the white genocide article. Kevlarstar and his dog (Woof!) 17:58, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

   What the fuck does this have to do with white genocide? — Oxyaena ^Harass 18:50, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

   Kevlarstar, could you explain your position please? SolPyre (talk) 19:36, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

   Both are conspiracy theories about white people going to extinct. Kevlarstar and his dog (Woof!) 20:00, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

   "Going extinct?" Again, I question if you have read the article. It is about white people moving out of an area because black people supposedly bring disorder with them. What extinction is going on?-Flandres (talk) 20:05, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

   True, but tell this to a white nationalist. They think that white people moving away is „genocide“/„replacement“. Kevlarstar and his dog (Woof!) 20:15, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

   I can see how the concept of white flight might be incorporated into the mythology of white extinction narratives actually... It actually does make sense that white nationalists or whoever would incorporate the phenomenon/history of white flight into their ideology, sort of like "See? Look at this! Black brutes drove out all the wholesome white people! The white genocide is REALL!!1!" But it is important to note that White Flight is/was a real phenomenon in American geography/history, even if it ended up being used in a conspiracy theory it was a real thing. It can be tracked/visualized with US census data. Give me a minute I'll go see if I can find a map example. SolPyre (talk) 20:19, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

   (edit conflcit)White flight was not invented, as a concept, by the white nationalist movement. It was popularized by left-leaning anti-racist activists to describe a demographic trend they observed. Whether you think it is valid or not, it is not a white nationalist conspiracy theory. At most the movement took the term from someone else-Flandres (talk) 20:26, 23 January 2021 (UTC)