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Articles on living persons[edit]

I would like to see this expanded. I would like to see

  1. No real names of internet personalities, even if they freely give their real name. An exception is allowed if: a mainstream news organization uses their real name, or if their real name is their screen name
  2. Notability criterion. We don't need an article on every idiot with a youtube channel
  3. A focus on concepts and organizations over people. For example, an article on OpenPsych and hereditarianism might make sense. An article on Emil Kirkegard is far less necessary

Thoughts?--Hastur! (talk) 19:13, 15 September 2020 (UTC)

Changed #1--Hastur! (talk) 19:17, 15 September 2020 (UTC)
Sounds good to me. I especially appreciate the focus on concepts over people. We have far too many articles on random internet people. Pizza SLICE.gifChef Moosolini’s Ristorante ItalianoMake a Reservation 19:19, 15 September 2020 (UTC)
I've got no problems. Sounds like a good idea.Bob"Life is short and (insert adjective)" 19:27, 15 September 2020 (UTC)
We have to bear in mind, numbers 2 and 3 may well result in the deletion of a good few articles--Hastur! (talk) 19:32, 15 September 2020 (UTC)
Suggesting rewording 1 to use "reliable sources" instead of "mainstream news". I think that's more in-line with the rest of our article talking about sources, and sometimes this relevant information might not neccessarily exist in just mainstream news. For point 2, I think we should figure out a clear way to properly define this. We can list rules for specifics sites, but we can't easily do sweeping statements, this might be something to consider for a new article dedicated to notability. With point 3, I do think we need an article on Kirkegaard specifically, given he appears to be notable enough given his ownership of multiple crank things, but I do think we could perhaps use less of a focus on say, Joshua Connor Moon on our page on Kiwifarms, since his presence barely adds much to our article on the neonazi den that is KF. Basically, if they have views notable enough to be relevant to our mission, then they can be kept. If they're just a random loon with no audience, we don't need an article on them.
Not disagreeing with the spirit of these rules as you're proposing them, but I think they need some work. I will also say that this is a good time to also add that we should consider giving people the option to request removing their real name if they are primarily known by their handle instead. This would also tie in with setting up an official policy around deadnaming (we kinda already forbid it on RW:BLOCK, but codifying it in the BLP instructions would be a good deal), which is a somewhat related concept to all this. Again, I think these are good ideas, just think they need some time in the oven to word it into proper policy. Sirius (dog star) 19:34, 15 September 2020 (UTC)
Oh yes, everything I said is up for debate and needs to be elaborated on. I hope to hear more opinions from the community, if you don't mind putting up a sitenotice, please--Hastur! (talk) 19:37, 15 September 2020 (UTC)