Talk:Christophobia

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Christophobia vs Islamophobia[edit]

According to one user "Be aware that Christophobia and persecution of Christians are not the same thing". How is Christophobia not the same as Islamophobia when they can both lead to the same outcome. What persecution does a Christian have to suffer before it can be termed "Christophobia"? There is a clear double standard between the two articles, and I fear I've run afoul of the Thought Police. — Unsigned, by: BirdWord / talk / contribs

If you want to be taken seriously, try not immediately shouting "Thought Police!" whenever someone disagrees with you. I challenge you to find any online community which sits silently by and does nothing while someone adds material to an article which goes against its message. Talk it out here, and if your edit is worth it, you can add it. Okay? Pizza SLICE.gifDuceMoosoliniYour friendly RW dictator moderator 06:10, 27 April 2019 (UTC)
While I don't think you were being literal, I didn't shout "Thought Police!" whenever someone disagreed with me, only after three people keep undoing what I considered valid examples but even then I didn't add it until a moderator got in on it and edit-locked the page. I admit, I have also heard this site has a double standard against Christianity (especially after seeing the Islamophobia page in comparison to this one) and may have overreacted. I would like to add examples of persecution Christians have suffered to this page, since Christophobia is a real thing just like Islamophobia (as evidenced by people with banners like "Burn churches, not queers" or those "bad religion" T-shirts which only deface the Christian cross or more violent actions like the Sutherland Springs Church Shooting). I request that the examples I listed re-added to the page, and that work be done on this page to make a more informative discussion of Christophobia just like the Islamophobia page does for that subject (it also touches on misuse of the term Islamophobia, so misuse of the term "Christophobia" can still be covered here). Not to mention the term "Christophobia" is starting to gain traction and credibility after events like the horrific Sri Lanka Easter bombings - the Christchurch shooting was called Islamophobia for less - so what do you make of my ideas? User:BirdWord 00:27, 28 April 2019
If the term "Christophobia" becomes widely used by people who are risking their lives by being Christians or if it becomes widely used by academics and the mainstream media in referring to those people, then this page will need to be substantially rewritten. At the moment, the term seems to be mostly used by a bunch of whiny arseholes who think the evil librulz are behind a conspiracy that's preventing them from saying, "Merry Christmas". As I said before, you are doing no favours to people who were murdered because of their religion by lumping them together with those twats. Spud (talk) 14:47, 27 April 2019 (UTC)
So why does the article say Christophobia is a real thing if it's a term used by people you claim are conspiracy theorists looking to blame everything on "evil liberals"? If you're going to acknowledge it's a real thing there should be examples. Besides, even atheists like Richard Dawkins (who, iirc, was once considered a hero by this site) and Sargon of Akkad (in this video with the similar title "Christianophobia", as seen here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNhC5gq8AQ0&t=1s ) have acknowledged anti-Christian double standards and discrimination are on the rise. BirdWord (talk) 18:51, 19 May 2019

@BirdWord I have said this already. Yes, there are Christians whose lives are in danger simply because they are Christians. And that's terrible. But the term "Christophobia" is not yet widely used to refer to the persecution those people face either by the mainstream media or by mainstream academia. Maybe one day it will be. And if that happens, then this article will have to be substantially rewritten. But that hasn't happened yet. As of right now, the word "Christophobia" is mostly used by a bunch of wankers who think the evil liberals want to make it illegal to say "Merry Christmas". And saying that a word is legitimate because Sargon of Akkad uses it is a not an argument that's going to convince anybody around here. Spud (talk) 09:10, 19 May 2019 (UTC)

I agree. I think that we should expand the page with instances of actual Christophobia instead of briefly talking about it in one sentence while the rest of the article talks about right-wing Christians complaining about false persecution. TheEOE (talk) 15:44, 27 April 2019 (UTC)
"As Christians, we have a right to treat certain people differently." - Ted Haggard Oxyaena Harass 17:32, 27 April 2019 (UTC)
...yet atheists do not. God, what a hypocrite. --2001:14BB:80:344:A148:BD28:A30E:838A (talk) 17:35, 27 April 2019 (UTC)
...yet atheists do not.
Like who, exactly? TheEOE (talk) 19:29, 27 April 2019 (UTC)
@TheEOE I have a feeling BoN's comment here was either really poorly worded or they're a deliberate troll. Pick your poison. Oxyaena Harass 07:24, 28 April 2019 (UTC)
I think discussing Christianphobias in the United States, Europe, South Korea[1], etc. is really terrible. However, in the Middle East and India,, Christian phobias are real. In the Middle East, indigenous Christians are rather a social minority on the level of Muslims in the Western world.--Gracchi (talk) 10:13, 19 May 2019 (UTC)
The anaversion to Christians in some parts of the Middle East and India is obviously serious, and I think the world's media and human rights groups should pay attention to it.--Gracchi (talk) 10:21, 19 May 2019 (UTC)
Christians feel oppressed when they can't oppress others. Drink! Oxyaena Harass 15:44, 19 May 2019 (UTC)
  1. In South Korea, the Christian right has a great influence in politics and encourages the government to implement homophobic policies. Still, the Christian right in South Korea accuses it of "Christophobia" targeting liberals who criticize it.