User:Pbfreespace3/RW Parties Tracker

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This is the unofficial RationalWiki political parties tracker! So you can keep a good log of who's on whose side. Feel free to change your placement if you aren't happy with where I put you. Change where you are only if you legitimately disagree with where I've put you, and aren't just trolling or trying to get a rise out of me. Screw it, everyone edit exactly how they want. I don't care anymore. Put yourself wherever you want. PBfreespace (talk) 23:04, 16 June 2016 (UTC)



  • Arisboch (Kugelschreiber)
  • AvengeroftheBoN (Pizzameister)


  • PBfreespace
  • Mona
  • ChrisAmiss
  • Owlman

Anti-Both sides

Pro Both Sides

  • CorruptUser
  • Petey Plane

Pro Hamas

Anti Hamas


One state

Two states

  • 67 borders. Whole of the West Bank and Gaza as the Palestinian state. Israel withdraws from them and Golan Heights too. West Bank barrier is rerouted so that it fits on the international border instead of annexing Palestinian land. ChrisAmiss (talk) 05:55, 29 June 2016 (UTC)

Three states

  • One for the Israelis, one for the Palestinians, and one for me. Obviously I'd get most of it. RoninMacbeth (talk) 23:15, 25 April 2017 (UTC)

Democratic Primary 2016

Hillary Clinton

  • FuzzyCatPotato
  • Noir LeSable
  • Typhoon
  • Hentropy
  • Bongolian
  • NewFrenchHotness
  • Petey Plane
  • Sandflapjack
  • Plutoniumboss
  • Hillary Clinton- 05:14, 13 August 2016 (UTC)

Bernie Sanders

  • PBfreespace
  • Mona
  • Owlman
  • Reverend Black Percy
  • Aeolian
  • JorisEnter
  • 142etc. (though I don't hate Hillary)

Martin O'Malley

  • ChrisAmiss

Rocky De La Fuente

  • Züge

Whoever Wins, Because Pragmatism

Vermin Supreme

  • Kugelschreiber

Anything but Trump

Laurogeita Hamabost (talk) 14:58, 21 June 2016 (UTC)

Republican Primary 2016

George Pataki

  • CorruptUser



  • Bigly! (talk) 21:12, 21 June 42016 AQD (UTC)
  • I'm a yuge Trump supporter. He's a great, great man with the best words and really big hands. Iggles (talk)
  • Thanks! I will definitely MAGA.-Donald Trump 05:13, 13 August 2016 (UTC)

Can't they all lose?

Laurogeita Hamabost (talk) 14:58, 21 June 2016 (UTC)

ⅅℐᎯℳᎾℕDⅅℐЅC1 (talk) 23:57, 10 August 2016 (UTC)

RationalWiki cliques

Is this all based on spelling? αδελφός ΓυζζγςατΡοτατο (talk/stalk) 22:18, 21 June 2016 (UTC)

I tried to make this not about any thing that could cause an edit war. Apparently naming it after different colors or linking it to presidential candidates is too offensive for some. Laurogeita Hamabost (talk) 22:21, 21 June 2016 (UTC)

The Greys

  • Mona
  • PBfreespace
  • JorisEnter
  • Owlman
  • Reverend Black Percy

The Grays

Does the above matter?

Likely to be the Zodiac killer

Foreign policy (for the US)


  • A bajillion studies prove that intervention usually works. Besides: if nationalism is bad, then everyone should be American. QED. Fuzzy. Cat. Potato! (talk/stalk) 22:19, 21 June 2016 (UTC)
  • nuke 'em first, ask questions later. nobsBern baby bern 23:52, 21 June 2016 (UTC)


  • Because they're so goddamn awful at doing interventions. Leave the job to more competent nations, USA. (talk) 15:15, 21 June 42016 AQD (UTC)
    Like who? Who would you prefer do the intervening? Russia? Take a look at what's happening in Syria. China? Who? PB (talk) 01:11, 24 June 2016 (UTC)
    Europe and the UN, mostly. France specifically has a pretty good record when it comes to interventions. (talk) 01:45, 24 June 42016 AQD (UTC)
    Didn't France intervene on behalf of the murderers in Rwanda? Laurogeita Hamabost (talk) 06:55, 24 June 2016 (UTC)
    France had been pretty buddy-buddy with Habyarimana's Hutu-majority government before the genocide. When hell broke loose they did an expat-saving operation while leaving the Tutsis to their likely demise. Not that any other country acted otherwise, sadly. In the aftermath of the genocide, they lead a UN-mandated mission to set up safe areas in Rwanda for refugees, displaced persons and other people under threat. (talk) 20:39, 24 June 42016 AQD (UTC)
Yah right. You need to add these French Peacekeepers to this list here. Fortunately for them, bestiality will fall under the generic 'sex abuse' category. nobsBern baby bern 00:08, 26 June 2016 (UTC)


  • I tend to approach foreign policy actions from a skeptical viewpoint, criticizing the intervention since the West is too eager to intervene in the first place. This doesn't mean I'm a complete isolationist or pacifist; there are many cases where intervention and violence is justified. Bosnia, Kosovo, Afghanistan, and Operation Inherent Resolve (Bombing ISIS) are all justified to me. But I support shuttering most of the US's military bases and elimination of its foreign aid. Countries I'd give weapons to: Kurdistan, Iraq (until they're secure). PBfreespace (talk) 02:39, 23 June 2016 (UTC)
  • Only if an immediate genocide is taking place do I support intervention. ChrisAmiss (talk) 06:01, 29 June 2016 (UTC)


ⅅℐᎯℳᎾℕDⅅℐЅC1 (talk) 23:54, 10 August 2016 (UTC)

Middle East

Ally with Iran

  • Both are theocratic sponsors of terror, but Saudi's are much worse about civil and human rights, and their economy and social society is much more likely to collapse. Petey Plane (talk) 21:00, 21 June 2016 (UTC)

Ally with Saudi Arabia

Other (please specify)

  • I want to carve out the region for my own caliphate and subjugate all these pretender-fools, duh! (talk) 15:11, 21 June 42016 AQD (UTC)
  • I'll take over the whole region, and from there conquer the whole world!-ⅅℐᎯℳᎾℕDⅅℐЅC1 (talk) 00:03, 11 August 2016 (UTC)



  • Assad is bad but theocracy is always worse. Lord Aeonian (talk) 01:16, 22 June 2016 (UTC)
  • 'Assad for Mayor of Damascus; the grassroots of what used to be Syria should thrash it out in precinct caucuses. nobsBern baby bern 01:26, 22 June 2016 (UTC)
  • I'd rather have the faction headed by this man rule the entire country than a mixture of Al-Qaeda, Ahrar al-Sham, Jaish al-Mujahideen, and the Free Syrian Army. PB (talk) 02:53, 23 June 2016 (UTC)


  • as an anti-Iranian nuke, anti-Putin, pro-Saudi CIA front, and thus pro-Hillary and anti-Trump, I'll give 'em half a vote (under DNC Conventiion rules I can make half a vote). nobsGary Johnson for Rehab!. 22:20, 11 August 2016 (UTC)



  • Arm them to the teeth and walk away. CorruptUser (talk) 01:12, 22 June 2016 (UTC)
  • Arm em to the teeth and tell Turkey not to touch them.--Kugelschreiber (talk) (mail) (block) 11:01, 22 June 2016 (UTC) 11:01, 22 June 2016 (UTC)
    And you think they'll listen? Ha! (talk) 13:35, 22 June 42016 AQD (UTC)
  • Give them tanks, artillery, airplanes, anti-tank/anti-aircraft missiles, and guns. Lots of guns. Fulfill the North Syria Federation, then hold a referendum where it declares independence in a Somaliland-scenario. Except this time, the Arab Syrians accept them when their asses are kicked in a war. PB (talk) 02:56, 23 June 2016 (UTC)

Peace for everybody

Team Sports


  • sandflapjack (formerly)








American armoured rugby football

  • go Cocks! Petey Plane (talk) 21:00, 21 June 2016 (UTC)
  • I'd root for Islamic State if they're playing an SEC team. - Smerdis of Tlön, LOAD "*", 8, 1. 21:07, 21 June 2016 (UTC)
  • It's what Murica's all about. Which reminds me of a joke: What do 5 black guys call 1 white guy? Coach. What do 10 black guys call 1 white guy? Quarterback. What do a 1000 black guys call 1 white guy? Warden. nobsBern baby bern 04:27, 23 June 2016 (UTC)
  • Ravens! ChrisAmiss (talk) 06:01, 29 June 2016 (UTC)

I think I'll pass

Individual sports


Track and field

Shooting (powder)



Sparkling or non-sparkling water


Laurogeita Hamabost (talk) 22:22, 21 June 2016 (UTC)


  • "It burns us, my precious, it burns us!" is a reasonable description of what I feel when drinking sparkling water.--JorisEnter (talk) 22:23, 21 June 2016 (UTC)
  • Why carbonation is even a thing is beyond me. (talk) 22:34, 21 June 42016 AQD (UTC)
  • Sparkling's for sissies. nobsBern baby bern 01:30, 22 June 2016 (UTC)
  • I don't like sparkling. I prefer refrigerator-chilled, no ice. PBfreespace (talk) 02:59, 23 June 2016 (UTC)

I don't care

ⅅℐᎯℳᎾℕDⅅℐЅC1 (talk) 23:48, 10 August 2016 (UTC)



  • Aeonian


  • FUCK SKUB --Ymir (talk) 19:30, 24 June 2016 (UTC)


What's a skub?

Laurogeita Hamabost (talk) 15:13, 22 June 2016 (UTC)

skub ikanreed You probably didn't deserve that 15:16, 22 June 2016 (UTC)
I still don't understand... Laurogeita Hamabost (talk) 16:45, 22 June 2016 (UTC)
Google is only one click away, you know. (talk) 17:05, 22 June 42016 AQD (UTC)

Britain The UK and the EU


  • I just want to watch the world brun. StickySock (talk) 16:39, 22 June 2016 (UTC)


  • --JorisEnter (talk) 09:29, 22 June 2016 (UTC)
  • I wish the EU was a lot less corporatist than it is, but this is still the better option. PB (talk) 03:02, 23 June 2016 (UTC)
  • They're annoying but without them it would be even worse Laurogeita Hamabost (talk) 11:51, 23 June 2016 (UTC)

Breathtaking Bromance of Braless Brazenness

  • Brrr. (talk) 13:44, 22 June 42016 AQD (UTC)
    On a more serious note, the Brits can do the politically/economically smart thing or the politically/economically dumb thing, I don't really care. Only interesting stuff about the UK is their big clock and that one pile of rocks anyway. (talk) 16:26, 22 June 42016 AQD (UTC)


ⅅℐᎯℳᎾℕDⅅℐЅC1 (talk) 00:23, 12 August 2016 (UTC)

Healthcare (for the US)

Single payer

  • Obviously. PB (talk) 01:09, 24 June 2016 (UTC)

Public option

Obamacare (or incremental improvement to it)

Repeal Obamacare replace it with [chirping sound]

Social Security


ⅅℐᎯℳᎾℕDⅅℐЅC1 (talk) 22:12, 11 August 2016 (UTC)

Don't privatize

Are you nuts? Privatize social security? I'd rather privatize highways than do that. User:Laurogeita Hamabost (talk) 07:53, 12 August 2016 (UTC)