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Welcome to your mother's basement! Here you can ask for autopatrolled, sysop rights, ninja rights, or tech rights.

Please include your reason for requesting the rights. For example, if requesting sysop rights, one could say: "I've been here for bloody ages and you fuckers forgot to give me sysop".

Please also {{ping|user's name}} a mod or tech — otherwise, nobody will respond.


Tech: Rockford the Roe[edit]

Heyo, I'd like to get tech so I can rename Mr. Poot's accounts since Special:RecentChanges has become probably the most vulgar page on the site. I have some basic knowledge of HTML/CSS/JS and I'm pretty confident in my Google-fu skills if there's something I don't know. Rockford the Roe (talk) 18:57, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

Endorsements[edit]

  • I am willing to formally vouch for Rockford as a decent enough tech candidate. Techpriest (I am Alpharius! / Pencil.png / Tux icon.png / Shield.png) 11:44, 16 January 2021 (UTC)

Anti-endorsements[edit]

Goat[edit]

  • Hmm... guess I could use some assistance in renaming all those foul accounts... --Goatspeed. Stalk meCircularREmail2.gifasoningSee what I've been messing around with 19:00, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
    I should probably help you out a bit more when I see them. Is there a faster way than copy-paste of the name? Also we should disallow emojis and those strange characters in the username in the first place. Doesn't really do anything for us to get rid of, in fact it makes it super obvious the name should be blocked before they even vandalize anything, but it'd be nice to know the vandals are extra-frustrated in creating names...CoryUsar (talk) 19:04, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
    @CorruptUser What I usually do when going on renaming sprees is I go to their contribs link, and then the "rename user" option at the top of the specialpage (the last option in a tech/mod's POV)- and then change their foul username, usually to some awesome one-liner. --Goatspeed. Stalk meCircularREmail2.gifasoningSee what I've been messing around with 19:34, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
    Oh, and ditto on the strange characters (usually either lame accent mark/dot/chandrabindu/tilde stacking tricks or random characters from Akkadian, a long-dead but also kind of cool language spoken in ancient Sumeria that is distantly related to Hebrew, Arabic, and Syriac.) --Goatspeed. Stalk meCircularREmail2.gifasoningSee what I've been messing around with 19:37, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Rearranged the section a bit. Cast your votes, I vouch. Techpriest (I am Alpharius! / Pencil.png / Tux icon.png / Shield.png) 11:44, 16 January 2021 (UTC)

Questions for the candidate[edit]

  • Are you familiar with past issues of abuse by techs that resulted in the loss of tech status? Bongolian (talk) 19:00, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
I haven't dived into any wiki drama since it's none of my business but I know that giving this kind of privilege would inevitably be abused. If I do anything beyond the scope, then you all can perma ban me. Rockford the Roe (talk) 20:08, 18 January 2021 (UTC)

Votes[edit]

This vote has been closed. Please do not add, remove or change votes.
The result of this vote was: 4:0 demote after almost a month. --Goatspeed. Stalk meCircularREmail2.gifasoningSee what I've been messing around with 03:48, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

Yea[edit]

  1. Per my own endorsement. Techpriest (I am Alpharius! / Pencil.png / Tux icon.png / Shield.png) 11:44, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
  2. Aye. Oxyaena Harass 19:03, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
  3. Would need to be more active though --Goatspeed. Stalk meCircularREmail2.gifasoningSee what I've been messing around with 04:08, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
  4. Yes. Pizza SLICE.gifChef Moosolini’s Ristorante ItalianoMake a Reservation 06:00, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

Nay[edit]

Goat[edit]

  • This is not to say Rockford wouldn't be a good tech (and if anything methinks we need more people with renaming privileges to assist us overwhelmed mods and to replace the recently promoted Oxy and JD and possibly LANCB'd Duce), but more resumé is needed; we must remember the skill set every good tech must have. The reason why I ran for moderator instead of applying for tech is because I'm of a more simple user type. How good is he at pywiki coding? Can he provide good advice on the tech noticeboard? And also, he'd need to be more active. --Goatspeed. Stalk meCircularREmail2.gifasoningSee what I've been messing around with 19:23, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
    Pywikibot skills are completely irrelevant for tech (as is Python knowledge in general). I ran Inferno before becoming a tech (if you look at the logs, Ze/EK gave Inferno bot rights) and nobody but me has access to it. The only skillset required is a willingness to look up how to mod the interface if requested (MediaWikis official project manual namespace is... less than helpful at times for showing the correct interface page you need), basic HTML/CSS skills (I'd go as far to say JS is optional, but it is welcome) and a willingness to learn to understand how to use the AbuseFilter syntax. Basically, you need to be willing to go and look at how MW works under the hood and be active enough to respond to relevant requests. That said, in practice, from my experience the role is mostly renaming users, handing out shit like ninja (allows users to self-grant the bot role when doing maintenance work without clogging up RC), watching the username creation log for common patterns of vandals to add to the AbuseFilter and the occasional interface page protection. Besides that, this is probably the role on the wiki with the least appreciation for shenanigans. Shenanigans as a sysop, the community can put up with and tolerate if you say sorry and apologize for it. Abuse any of the rights you have as a tech, and you can be looking at sysoprevoke at the bare minimum. Being a tech means in essence being a community role model without the ability to exert more power than a regular editor when things get out of hand. Every move you do with the rights it grants has to be justifiable towards every single editor, no exceptions (and this includes acting out of frustration or other emotions). Mods are a bit more freeform in how they approach this stuff, techs are not freeform in their rights at all. They can only use them insofar as the CS permits it. Techpriest (I am Alpharius! / Pencil.png / Tux icon.png / Shield.png) 21:29, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
    The main shenanigan that we know about is being able to to the functional equivalent of checkuser. It is the reason why there were two demotions, and is how we got to this point where there's a vote on tech. That said, there needs to be more than technical expertise to be tech, in particular there needs to be a level of community trust for techs. It's more important that a tech know their own limitations and be conscious enough not to exceed them than to have technical knowledge about every tool. It's also more important to have community trust. Bongolian (talk) 00:30, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
    The CU thing is entirely closed, it's not possible anymore. The community trust part is why we added the vote yes, so we agree on that. Techpriest (I am Alpharius! / Pencil.png / Tux icon.png / Shield.png) 17:07, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
  • I remember one of a big reason I ran for moderator is so I can rename things and without getting tech privileges (as I don't want to have tech rights without knowing how to use them to their fullest extent). If there's a way to get rename rights without the rest of the tech tools, I hope we can establish this. --It's-a me, Lgm sigpic.png LeftyGreenMario! 20:55, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
    @LeftyGreenMario Huzzah! You're back! --Goatspeed. Stalk meCircularREmail2.gifasoningSee what I've been messing around with 21:16, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
    LGM, honestly, I think you're more than capable if you'd want to be a tech based on your record. You seem to know the needed skills looking at your userpage/talkpage and the rest is easy enough to pick up on as you go. That said, if you want to run, please do read my other comment. Specifically about shenanigans. Techpriest (I am Alpharius! / Pencil.png / Tux icon.png / Shield.png) 21:29, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
    I'm sure you know I was there to witness tech abuses in the past. I remember tech trying to use a loophole as a sort of pseudocheck user and not really disclosing those methods as well as a tech trying to delete and suppress the chicken coop when under pressure. Got voted out of board for that (three votes out of three people present in the board meeting). But anyhow I did one time briefly went as tech when I was moderator just to check on what tools I could use or whatnot (I think I wanted to do string replacements for multiple articles, e.g change "Category:Insufferable assholes" to "" and tried to be tech just so if I could find extra special pages for those) and then just removed tech status when I was done checking and didn't find it. Anyway, this is my comment, but this isn't my tech application, but just so you know in case I do want rename rights or something. That being said, if there's a way I can get rename and without having to feel like I'm responsible for a lot tech powers I won't use and am hesitant to try to use, I can settle for that.
    Also, hello CircularReasoning. --It's-a me, Lgm sigpic.png LeftyGreenMario! 23:19, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
    Just an uneducated guess, but I'd assume giving renaming rights to people who aren't techs or mods would require a creation of another user rights group. Which probably means it requires root access. So DG and Trent would be only ones (at the moment) who could make it possible. Other than that it shouldn't be impossible. If you can give certain privileges to two distinct user groups, you should be able to give them to others as well. Knight CommanderIn ServiceTo HerGoatness 00:42, 17 January 2021* (UTC)
    @Knight Commander, Wikimedia has the global renamer permission, so I think installing that here wouldn't be that hard. JJP...MASTER![talk to] JJP... master? 16:56, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
  • I was unaware that renaming trolls was so important or that it is a sufficient excuse to grant user rights that are easily misused. Goat for now, however-Hastur! (talk) 16:59, 17 January 2021 (UTC)

Ninja: JJPMaster[edit]

I strongly dislike double redirects and occasionally try to fix them rapidly (either manually or using AutoWikiBrowser). I also have a "mass rollback" tool, which means that I will sometimes have to make a lot of edits quickly, and I would therefore like to request the flood ninja right. Courtesy ping: @CircularReasoning. JJP...MASTER![talk to] JJP... master? 17:21, 18 January 2021 (UTC)

@JJPMaster Done. You are now a Ninja. Spud (talk) 17:40, 18 January 2021 (UTC)

Ninja: Kevlarstar[edit]

@CorruptUser @Spud @CircularReasoning Can I become Ninja? I would fix unnecessary redirects and categories. Kevlarstar and his dog (Woof!) 18:03, 18 January 2021 (UTC)

Done. --Goatspeed. Stalk meCircularREmail2.gifasoningSee what I've been messing around with 20:08, 18 January 2021 (UTC)
Thanks! Kevlarstar and his dog (Woof!) 06:18, 19 January 2021 (UTC)

Ninja: Oxyaena[edit]

I'd like ninja back. I think I've proven myself trustworthy enough not to abuse it. Oxyaena Harass 20:24, 18 January 2021 (UTC)

@Spud @Bongolian @Sirius Oxyaena Harass 07:26, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
@Oxyaena Tell you what. If you remove that Retired template from your user page, I'll do it for you. I'm not going to demote someone who's not here. Spud (talk) 07:30, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
@Spud Okay, removed. Oxyaena Harass 08:50, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
Granted it. Don't cause a fuss with it please or make me regret it. Techpriest (I am Alpharius! / Pencil.png / Tux icon.png / Shield.png) 11:48, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
Don't worry, I'll only use it to cause world annihilation. Oxyaena Harass 11:58, 20 January 2021 (UTC)

Can I have my mop back please.[edit]

Tried a silly test to see if it was possible to desysop and block myself simultaneously using two computers. Seems to have failed. Could I have the mop back please. Knight CommanderIn ServiceTo HerGoatness 23:49, 29 January 2021 (UTC)

@Knight Commander Got ya covered. - Rairyu75 (Talk) 23:52, 29 January 2021 (UTC)
Thanks buddy! Knight CommanderIn ServiceTo HerGoatness 23:53, 29 January 2021 (UTC)

Ninja powerz?[edit]

Can I be made ninja so I can do the Naruto run in public without drawing comments form other people hunt red links? I don't know if I will do it often, but last night I was kinda looking for small improvements I can make to random articles and stumbled upon some red links to zap. If the mood ever strikes me to go on a tear through them I'd rather not clog up recent changes. I'll ping, idk, @RWRW. Who I know is secretly a master of ninjutsu! (You can fool the others, RWRW, but I'm onto you...)

Regards. - Rairyu75 (Talk) 14:24, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

Granted. Enjoy your newfound ninjutsu, stash of shurikens and ability to stealth your way around the wiki. Techpriest (I am Alpharius! / Pencil.png / Tux icon.png / Shield.png) 14:31, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
I guess I’m not really a master if my cover has been blown... all those years of training gone to waste. -- RWRW (talk) 15:49, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

Tech: JJPMaster[edit]

Someone said that I seem pretty good at technical stuff, and . . . quite trustworthy, and as such, I would like to request the tech user right. As for the criteria, I have some coding experience, especially in JavaScript (from my absurd hobby of creating user scripts) and Python/Pywikibot, I am okay to good at understanding how MediaWiki works, I understand edit filters quite well, and I can also google things if there is something I don't know. I also would like to confirm that I will try not to abuse my "powers" if I do get elected.

And also, renaming. I want to do it. JJP...MASTER![talk to] JJP... master? 17:43, 12 February 2021 (UTC)

With minor exceptions, you've only been editing here for less than a month. I think it might be better to wait a bit longer. Bongolian (talk) 18:52, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
@Bongolian: What exactly do you mean by "with minor exceptions"? JJP...MASTER![talk to] JJP... master? 00:16, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
I agree, maybe you could wait perhaps a couple more months and make a few more edits so it won't be as controversial. (In case you haven't been following site politics that closely, this is because the mob has lately gotten wary of people abusing tech rights, often doing things like unilaterally unsysrevoking people or worse, using a cheap-man's exploit-based checkuser and then trying to burn the evidence by suppressing the Chicken Coop- multiple times. Not to say we don't trust you. --Goatspeed. Stalk meCircularREmail2.gifasoningSee what I've been messing around with 01:35, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
By that I meant that you made 6 non-mainspace edits in December 2020, then did not edit again until January 2021. There's nothing wrong with that, but it would be nice if you had a longer track record of mainspace edits before requesting tech permission. Bongolian (talk) 03:22, 13 February 2021 (UTC)