User talk:JeevesMkII/Archive1

What is this?

Jeeves, If you want, I'll sort out the rest of the instructions.   ^Contribs_Talk 08:11, 3 August 2008 (EDT)

Thanks, I'll go round the templates and put a link to the complete docs page on to of each one too. --JeevesMkII 08:12, 3 August 2008 (EDT)

How's that? I'll put them in the template list   ^Contribs_Talk 08:26, 3 August 2008 (EDT)

Cool. I never even knew that existed :D --JeevesMkII 08:30, 3 August 2008 (EDT)

Heh! Everyone ought to look around all the Help pages there's all sorts of stuff in there.   ^Contribs_Talk 09:12, 3 August 2008 (EDT)

Done everything now, I think. They're Bootiful - well done. Have an award (only one I could find)

		Tireless Worker Award
		For ingenuity beyond the call of duty JEEVES For the ingenious Collapse stuff

  ^Contribs_Talk 09:12, 3 August 2008 (EDT)

What is this "Collapse" thing? ~ Gloom_{(is never asleep)} 09:21, 3 August 2008 (EDT)

Look @ RC and RationalWiki:Collapsible Comment System   ^Contribs_Talk 09:25, 3 August 2008 (EDT)

Ooooh. Pretty. ~ Gloom_{(is never asleep)} 09:31, 3 August 2008 (EDT)

Whee! thanks! :D --JeevesMkII 09:30, 3 August 2008 (EDT)

Assuming -

- that you're the same person as Mk1 - you've been sysopped.   ^Contribs_Talk 08:36, 4 August 2008 (EDT)

Yeah, that's me. Oh boy oh boy oh boy, now I can write evil javascript to steal everyone's passwords finish my comment boxy things. --JeevesMkII 10:56, 4 August 2008 (EDT)

Also, Jeeves, I think you can get the "sign in" screen to email your password, or email you a reset one, in case you got forgotten out of your previous account... ħuman 18:59, 5 August 2008 (EDT)

Wait—what? What's going on? Is that == Eh, fuck this noise ==

Apparently, I'm striving to make this site like an inverse Conservapedia. So be it, here's my Conservapedia-esque Parthian shot. Any place that prefers to keep User:MarcusCicero over User:SusanG needs its head seriously examined. Lets weigh the options, shall we? On the one hand, we have Susan who was the only one who could be bothered to write site policies and on the other we have MC who, and lets be fair to him, is a complete and utter twat interested only in provoking endless TK-style flame wars.

I'm too personally involved to do it myself, so I'll do the only honourable thing and leave. However, may I suggest that someone institute a rule against insulting other users. MC has the same problem TK has, he simply can't be civil to anyone for more than five minutes at a time. But, whatever, I have work to do and reading whatever drivel he'll write to angry up my blood next isn't helping me do it.? Radioactive afikomen ^{Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments.} 05:56, 29 August 2008 (EDT)

Another award for Jeeves

		RationalWiki Friendly Award
		For assisting a distressed Ratwikian (User:SusanG) in time of trouble.

Ajax

Are you very familiar with Ajax programming? Any tips on good reference guides? Preferably on line? tmtoulouse ^provoke 14:51, 19 August 2008 (EDT)

I've done a bit. I have an extremely useful tip, which is to use this. XMLHTTPRequest is THE most pathetically specified and implemented thing I've ever seen, paralleled only in shittiness by Netscape LiveConnect. It really helps that someone else has gone round discovering in which ways it is broken in each browser and created a work around, not to mention not having to worry about the idiotic Active X invocations you have to make for Internet Explorer (Curses Be Upon It.)

Other than having a working XMLHTTPRequest object to hand, there's nothing to it. It's just javascript where every so often you go and get more data from the server. Of course, being an old fuddy duddy, I like to pack all my data in to binary structs and parse them on the client, which sets me somewhat apart from the "Bandwidth is free, CPU time is plentiful and XML is the only tool in my box" school of "programming" today's kiddies engage in. This may mean I'm not the best person to ask. --JeevesMkII 15:04, 19 August 2008 (EDT)

I will check it out, it might be my problem, basically I have this and it works in Firefox, but IE just dumps the raw PHP code not the parsed response. tmtoulouse ^provoke 16:05, 19 August 2008 (EDT)

Figured it out. tmtoulouse ^provoke 16:26, 19 August 2008 (EDT)

Gang of Four

(Sorry, I first posted this on your old user page)--Bob^{bing up} 10:54, 5 September 2008 (EDT)

Somebody has entered you along with Susan, Genghis and I into a Gang of Four on RWW. To show "proper" appreciation you might wish to use - or indeed improve on - this userbox:

This user is a member of the feared Gang of Four and may react sarcastically to superstition and religion.

--Bob^{bing up} 04:22, 4 September 2008 (EDT)

It's nice to know there's recognition to be had for being a bigoted little shit in this world still :D But hell, if pissing off the religious is wrong then I don't want to be right. --JeevesMkII 11:00, 5 September 2008 (EDT)

Spoken like a true member of the GO4.:-) --Bob^{bing up} 11:03, 5 September 2008 (EDT)

Random block reason

The problem is that the block list doesnt pass through the wiki parser. Try blocking using it to see if the block reason parses the text? tmtoulouse ^provoke 15:06, 5 September 2008 (EDT)

Why didn't I think of that? Now I have to undelete everything :D --JeevesMkII 15:08, 5 September 2008 (EDT)

It does parse in the text displayed to the user. When they try and edit while blocked. tmtoulouse ^provoke 15:14, 5 September 2008 (EDT)

That's something I guess, but it's not really quite there. I suppose I could write some javascript to do it, but that'd probably be overkill. --JeevesMkII 15:16, 5 September 2008 (EDT)

Nothing is ever overkill! Let me take a look at the php code for blocking to see how hard it would be to pass it through the parser first. tmtoulouse ^provoke 15:17, 5 September 2008 (EDT)

commiseration

IE is painful. tmtoulouse ^provoke 17:25, 5 September 2008 (EDT)

Yeah, everything works except the option that gets appended to the list has no text. It has a value, so if you select the empty space you get the randomly chosen block reason... It's weird. There's probably some arcance IE only property I need to set. --JeevesMkII 17:27, 5 September 2008 (EDT)

Ah, some else has found this problem and it's solution before me. Huzzah. --JeevesMkII 17:31, 5 September 2008 (EDT)

Did you get my query about making the "silly reasons" into a selectable drop down within the regular drop down menu? ħuman 21:43, 5 September 2008 (EDT)

Beers, steers, and queers

Is all. ħuman 20:44, 9 September 2008 (EDT)

Don Quixote

Your suggestion, sir, is brilliant--I've taken the liberty of composing his anthem. --Phentari 11:49, 13 September 2008 (EDT)

Not style sheets

See the extensions have this terrible quality that any text you output from them goes through several stages of html preproccessing. It screws up any scripting you put in it because it adds things like pre tags, amp, etc. I am trying to "encode" the text that is submitted by the extension, and then "decode" after the preproccessing so that it outputs the raw html. Well my solution overextended beyond just my extension code and created some fun artifacts. tmtoulouse ^provoke 17:22, 17 September 2008 (EDT)

How entertaining the MediaWiki processing pipeline must be. Do I detect a Cascade of Attention Deficit Teenagers? --JeevesMkII 17:25, 17 September 2008 (EDT)

It feels like, I still don't understand the pipeline very clearly. From what I can figure special characters and white space are processed last, preceded by the text in extensions. So some raw html works fine, others don't. It is fits and starts with difficult logical flow. Trying to backtrack text in an extension through the mediawiki parser can also be fun since it has to be recursively parsed. To me this sums up my experience with mediawiki. The most honest comment I have seen on a function yet:

"//This code is a complete nightmare and half of it is gibberish someone should just rewrite the whole thing"

tmtoulouse ^provoke 17:29, 17 September 2008 (EDT)

Pesky

I've removed it so you might want to disable your javasript as plainlinks is used all over.   ^Contribs_Talk 05:15, 23 September 2008 (EDT)

It is? I've not noticed huge swathes of things disappearing. Nor can I find any references to it in a few sample pages I checked. Got any examples? --JeevesMkII 08:23, 23 September 2008 (EDT)

No, I can't find it either - I thought it was used on the WIGO pages but it doesn't seem to be - I know I've seen it around & about though - can't search for code though. Mea culpa, possibly.   ^Contribs_Talk 08:30, 23 September 2008 (EDT)

Ooo!

Are you the one who made it so the Schlafly generator reflected the user name? If so, thank you! --Yossie^{Spring in Fialta} 07:58, 24 September 2008 (EDT)

Yep, 'twas me. It isn't quite perfect, but it's the best I can do without being Trent. --JeevesMkII 08:59, 24 September 2008 (EDT)

It's making me get out my (old) Javascript books - another excuse to not work! .   ^Contribs_Talk 09:20, 24 September 2008 (EDT)

It's perfect for what I'm making. Thanks again! --Yossie^{Spring in Fialta} 09:30, 24 September 2008 (EDT)

Would it do any harm if I replaced

function insertNameIntoSchlaflyGenerator() {
	var nameSpan = document.getElementById("schlaflyName");
	if (nameSpan && wgUserName) {
		nameSpan.innerHTML = wgUserName;
	}
}

addOnloadHook(insertNameIntoSchlaflyGenerator);

with:

function insertMyName() {
	var nameSpan = document.getElementById("myName");
	if (nameSpan && wgUserName) {
		nameSpan.innerHTML = wgUserName;
	}
}

addOnloadHook(insertMyName);

(and amended Yoss's screed, of course) - it'd be more user friendly then & more obviously general.   ^Contribs_Talk 12:29, 24 September 2008 (EDT)

Go right ahead, I can think of some more potential uses for that particular substitution. I'm rather tempted to write some similar code to simplify the welcome template. --JeevesMkII 12:31, 24 September 2008 (EDT)

What've I done wrong? see Fun:Schlafly generator  ^Contribs_Talk 12:41, 24 September 2008 (EDT)

Looks okay to me...--Yossie^{Spring in Fialta} 12:43, 24 September 2008 (EDT)

Me too, you may have the javascript cached. Try hitting shift-refresh. --JeevesMkII 12:45, 24 September 2008 (EDT)

(ec) (ec) Sorry - it was me - forgot to shift/reload! silly person!   ^Contribs_Talk 12:52, 24 September 2008 (EDT)

Bored?

Tell me why this: [[user:<span id="myName"><insert name here></span>|doesn't work]] ( [[user:<insert name here>|doesn't work]]).   ^Contribs_Talk 21:35, 24 September 2008 (EDT)

I spect cos at someone hacking on media wiki has noticed the glaring security hole that it would introduce if they allowed arbitrary things inside wiki markup. I guess if you have anything that looks like html or anything that looks even vaguely like the string "javascript:" in its many, many encoded forms the wiki parser won't write it as a link. --JeevesMkII 21:40, 24 September 2008 (EDT)

Hey, I work... sometimes... ħuman 23:00, 24 September 2008 (EDT)

I'm so glad my generator has spurred such activities. Actually, Uncyclopedia has a version of the <insert name here> thing that DOES generate a link, but I don't know if that's any help. --Yossie^{Spring in Fialta} 04:34, 25 September 2008 (EDT)

Star Wars

Hello, I've only been on this wiki for a few days and have a few questions:

• Is this site only to parody Conservapedia?
• Is that why Star Wars was deleted?

and

• Just out of curiosity, what is the reference to master of puppets (above) mean?

Thanks!--Der Meister des Marionettes^talk! 19:28, 7 October 2008 (EDT)

To answer you questions in order, No it isn't just to take the piss out of Conservapedia although that tends to be the major activity by volume. I deleted the star wars page because someone tagged it with the mission doubt template, and it obviously wasn't on mission. You can read more about what rationalwiki is about here. Basically, you should be able to broadly fit your article in to one of those three categories. There are some traditional exceptions to this rule, see goat. As for your third question, I'm not really sure what you're talking about, could you be more specific? --JeevesMkII 19:36, 7 October 2008 (EDT)

Oh, are you talking about this "[[user:<yourname|doesn't work]])."? That's a test of a bit of javascript I wrote to insert a person's username dynamically in to the page. Anyone who visits this page will see their own user name. --JeevesMkII 19:39, 7 October 2008 (EDT)

Lol! Oh! I was just surprised to see my user name up there on something that was irrelevant to anything I might be doing. Thanks for the help! I've been on Wikipedia for about a year, recently banned off of Confarceapedia, and seemed to take a liking to this format. If you can do me a favor and let me know before you delete an article so I can have a chance to bring it within standards (unless, of course, it's so far out of wack that the subject matter doesn't conform). Appreciate the insight! Cheers!--Der Meister des Marionettes^talk! 19:45, 7 October 2008 (EDT)

Sorry to keep bothering you, but could the Star Wars article be put in the fun:namespace? I had some of my boys rolling when they read it (or should that be left to Uncyclopedia)?--Der Meister des Marionettes^talk! 19:56, 7 October 2008 (EDT)

If you really want it to be, I suppose. I've perpetrated some odd things in fun in the past. Nobody much minds what goes in there. Definitely seems to be more of an uncyclopedia thing to be honest though. --JeevesMkII 20:00, 7 October 2008 (EDT)

Thanks...seems others have juiced it up already!--Der Meister des Marionettes^talk! 21:29, 7 October 2008 (EDT)

Charisma of brick?

Here you said that Andy "has the charisma of a brick". As an avid follower of all brick kind and a keeper of many pet bricks, I find this comment extremely offensive to bricks in general. Granted, they stand there, do little, and look a little glum most of the time, but to say that Messr Schlafly has charisma even approaching this admittedly low standard is an insult to bricks of all ages and all nationalities! Surely there is something, somewhere more appropriate to compare his lack of personal charisma, and/or possibly hygine to (perhaps slasher-movie actors are suitably low enough, I'm currently undecided). ArmondikoV^moral 20:38, 21 October 2008 (EDT)

I agree, many bricks, while immobile and untalkative (if only teh assfly were!), have an innate warmth, a cherry-red glow about them, a solidity... and they make great landfill! ħuman 04:10, 22 October 2008 (EDT)

I hear some people actually collect house bricks. Each to their own I suppose. I apologise to all brick fetishists everywhere for comparing their beloved items to Assfly. --JeevesMkII 07:32, 22 October 2008 (EDT)

I have a splendid collection of housebricks which have been arranged into the shape of a house. Генгис^{RationalWiki GOLD member} 07:37, 27 October 2008 (EDT)

I agree bricks should be respected and defended from unwarranted harm, isolation and vitriolic attacks. This is typical of Jeeves and his continuing crusade against all sentient lifeforms that disagree with his narrow worldview. Bricks included. (Welcome back - Guess you decided to 'come back' after storming off in an angry rage?) MarcusCicero 18:52, 29 October 2008 (EDT)

e mail

You haven't enabled your e-mail address. Intentional or accidental? Cayce_Pattern 03:11, 23 October 2008 (EDT)

Part intent, part laziness. I'm not entirely sure what anyone would need to say to me that can't be said in public though. --JeevesMkII 21:00, 23 October 2008 (EDT)

Fair enough. Cayce_Pattern 21:12, 23 October 2008 (EDT)

Denmark?

I was doing my best Conservative impression. I will send my formal complaint to the Vogan customer service office. Corry^{Maybe it was the eleven months he spent in the womb.} 00:34, 26 October 2008 (EDT)

WIGO

Sorry, hadn't realised the numbers didn't recycle.--SakuraNoSeirei 19:37, 9 November 2008 (EST)

Jihadist Forever

Hey, why did you block Jihadist Forever? He was biased, sure, but nothing that couldn't be taken care of easily. Or was it because he was creating articles that are out of the purview of this wiki? Smyth 16:40, 21 November 2008 (EST)

Hrm, I think writing (or more likely, copy-pasting) a naked propaganda piece about hezbollah and expressing the opinion that gay people are "sexual deviants" is a bit more than "bias." The metapedia wandals are bad enough, putting up with another group of religious nutters is beyond the pail. --JeevesMkII 16:47, 21 November 2008 (EST)

Your business.

I don't know why you fear some Internet discussion could have destroyed your business at a stroke. May I suggest you work at making your business safer, perhaps look for another line of business that is safer. You can try running a safer business as well as your current one or instead of your current one. You know more about your business than I do. Don't pay too much attention to this. Proxima Centauri 07:28, 2 December 2008 (EST)

You're right of course, and in a year both we and the market will be in a good position to diversify, but we can't do that right now. Of course, this wasn't just some internet discussion either, this is Nokia announcing essentially their strategy for the coming year. If they had chosen a radical departure from where they'd previously been heading, which was a possibility considering some of the other things I know about them, I might have been in trouble. As it is, everything turned out fine. Personally, I'm looking forward to Google's Android platform maturing and perhaps releasing some reasonable products that people will want to buy. A good competitor to Nokia in the mass market smartphone space will make my life much easier. --JeevesMkII 12:00, 2 December 2008 (EST)

Squid

You know much about using squid? 68.35.149.19 17:51, 31 December 2008 (EST)

Wouldn't say I'm any sort of expert, though I'm browsing through a caching squid proxy right now. Its like most unix-adminy things, I know enough to get it running but I'd want a double check of what I'd done if I were running it in some kind of mission critical environment. Do you have a question? --JeevesMkII 22:56, 31 December 2008 (EST)

I am looking at setting up something on the new server, but I am confused about how well squid would play with multiple websites on the same server. If I am hosting say, RationalWiki, RationalWikiWiki, a personal website, and something like RationalBlogs, how hard is it to get squid to work with all the various domains and what not. tmtoulouse 02:46, 1 January 2009 (EST)

I suspect squid is not the droid you're looking for. mod_mem_cache and/or mod_disk_cache might be up your street. I'm not sure if any of these will achieve the desired effect however, since I think mediawiki might hit the database for the entire query just to check if the content has changed since the last request. I could be pleasantly surprised by the code however, but the rest of it has that "authored by kiddies" feel, so simple optimisations like "if we have an etag header, check the last update time first before fetching the world" might well pass them by. --JeevesMkII 03:08, 1 January 2009 (EST)

Barnstar

		Barnstar
		For your tireless contributions to RationalWiki, I award you this barnstar.

Got a little time to help?

There is a bottle neck somewhere and I can't seem to find it. tmtoulouse 11:36, 7 January 2009 (EST)

Sure, what do you need? --JeevesMkII 11:42, 7 January 2009 (EST)

I am noticing a lot of connection time outs, and I think others are too. The server is not under any load at all so it has to be further up the chain (I think). My best guess is that the server is behind a relatively cheap router. I don't know much about routers, are they fairly limited in simultanious connections? Would that be a likely source for the bottleneck? 130.113.218.226 13:03, 7 January 2009 (EST)

Unless we're talking about something really stupid, like the router is doing NAT (in which case it could be overflowing a state table) there really ought to be no practical limit on what the router can sensibly do other than its CPU time. Although, looking at the reverse DNS of rationalwiki.com... Oh dear. OK, maybe the router is doing NAT? --JeevesMkII 17:13, 7 January 2009 (EST)

An interesting experiment you might try, add "KeepAlive Off" to your httpd.conf, it'll be lousy for performance but TCP connections will go away much faster. If that improves matters, it's almost certainly a problem with using a crummy consumer grade router. The symptoms of the problem that I can detect from my end is that somewhere along the line the initial SYN is getting dropped on the floor. The connection doesn't get any further than that. --JeevesMkII 18:10, 7 January 2009 (EST)

I didn't understand a word (well, mostly the acronyms) either of you said, but something seems to have worked... ħuman 23:37, 7 January 2009 (EST)

One last thing before I goto bed...........is there any theoretical reason that I couldn't or shouldn't setup up a software router on the actual server?

So it would be

Modem
|
|
Server/firewall
|
|
Personal computer

Most setups are something like

Modem
|
|
Firewall

|

/ \

Server Personal computer

130.113.218.226 00:31, 8 January 2009 (EST)

No, in fact I'd recommend it. You might well be able to do away with the modem too, if your internet comes via an RJ45 cable and is straight PPPoE. Anything you can do to get rid of small plasticy boxes between the server and the internet is good. Consumer grade equipment like that is not known for its reliability. Just a couple of things, firstly set up your firewall ruleset so that all ports not explicitly open are set to DROP (This probably includes the mysql port, which you can happily run on a local socket instead of an internet one), and use ipt_recent to ward off some of the less aggressive internet idiots. --JeevesMkII 00:57, 8 January 2009 (EST)

Sorry to keep bugging you but this is not really my area of expertise. I have gone through and setup DHCP and what not on the server and have my computer plugged into the server via cross over cable. I get an IP address and I can do somethings on the internet. For example, I can load RationalWiki fine (I assume thats because it is "behind the firewall) and my Skype loads fine. But websites won't load and IM programs won't load. I assume that means that the glitch is in my firewall rules right? If all that is working that means the basic setup is working right? tmtoulouse 18:23, 8 January 2009 (EST)

MOAR HITLER?

Can you upload the photo of the Atheism and Evolution articles from a few days ago for those of us who missed it? Stile4aly 11:53, 8 January 2009 (EST)

Yeah, probably. I guess it needs recording for the annals of Conservapedia history. --JeevesMkII 11:56, 8 January 2009 (EST)

It's... so... beautiful... They should have sent a poet. Stile4aly 12:08, 8 January 2009 (EST)

AliasMatch

I am using the apache2 http.conf file for the short urls I have this rule:

AliasMatch /wiki(.*) /home/rational/public_html/w/index.php$1

Which works fine except for urls like:

http://rationalwiki.com/wiki/index.php?title=Conservapedia

I can't figure our how to do a negation in the AliasMatch, or to come up with an alternative rule that would allow both types of addresses to work.

Any thoughts?

tmtoulouse 15:58, 8 January 2009 (EST)

Isn't it simply the case that you want your first mod_rewrite RewriteRule to be something like:

RewriteRule ^/wiki(.*) /w$1

Which will rewrite all urls of the form /wiki/foo to /w/foo, and then the rest of the rewrite rules you already have will munge it to point at the actual file? /w/index.php?title=Conservapedia seems to work, which indicates that ought to be the right answer. --JeevesMkII 16:18, 8 January 2009 (EST)

Name reader

Hey, Jeeves, it seems that the Schlafly Generator user name detector function (or whatever one would call it...) you designed long ago is no longer functioning. I'm not sure if it's a result of the server move or if it stopped working before that, but I was wondering if you could fix it? I'll give you a cookie if you do! --Yossie^{Spring in Fialta} 21:35, 8 January 2009 (EST)

It's probably due to the server move, there are a lot of little things that aren't quite right. Mention it at tmtoulouse' talk page, and don;t forget to link to it so he can see what might need to be reinstalled. ħuman 21:51, 8 January 2009 (EST)

Thank ye, Human! --Yossie^{Spring in Fialta} 00:06, 9 January 2009 (EST)

Aaaaaaaargh!!

(with cheese)_{talk to Toast} 05:19, 12 January 2009 (EST)

Lovely Rhubarb Tart!  ^{(with butter!)} _{talk to Toast} 04:16, 14 January 2009 (EST)

E-mail

Er, so the mail client is hanging the server on boot up, and I haven't given a shit enough to get it working. Which means "e-mail this user" is disabled. I would like to e-mail you something semi-important but I don't think I have your e-mail address. Can you send me something to ttoulouse@gmail.com? 216.221.87.112 00:12, 29 January 2009 (EST)

That would be "Jeeves" then, please. --JeevesMkII 00:56, 29 January 2009 (EST)

Rhubarb Tart

7:30 pm BBC R7. _and marmite 14:05, 9 February 2009 (EST)

1234567890

I can't figure it out. Please explain. Wèàšèìòìď^{Methinks it is a Weasel} 17:36, 13 February 2009 (EST)

It's Unix time, seconds since the Unix epoch (which is midnight January 1st, 1970) --JeevesMkII 17:41, 13 February 2009 (EST)

Oh. Meh. Wèàšèìòìď^{Methinks it is a Weasel} 17:55, 13 February 2009 (EST)

blocked universities

Greetings: I have created the page Conservapedia:Blocking the Planet, shamelessly copying your table. Gauss 15:24, 15 March 2009 (EDT)

Thanks

9 hours is good. Thanks, I was getting really fucked off with the Cheetah/Wolf or whatever he thinks he is. Jesus, what a wanker. Ace McWicked^{bitch and moan} 22:20, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, hopefully he'll take the hint and stay gone until he's at least 20 and thoroughly embarrassed at the way he used to behave. --JeevesMkII ^{The gentleman's gentleman at the other site} 22:21, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Three

Jeeves (or anyone else out there), I've just upgraded to Jaunty Jackalope & my three connection's gone down. After entering name & password abox appears:

Enter password for default keyring to unlock

The application 'nm-connection-editor' (/usr/bin/nm-connectioneditor) wants access to the default keyring, but it is locked

Password: ______________________________

Hope that shows right, it doesn't on my pda. HALP _and marmite 10:55, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

It's just trying to save the name and password into the keyring, if you click deny, it should still connect, but it won't save the password. Did you set a password for the keyring? It usually pops up the first time a program wants to store passwords, but you can choose not to use it then. -- Nx / talk 13:16, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Pathetic ignorance: what's a keyring? _and marmite 15:36, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

It's a software program that stores all your passwords encrypted, so you only have to remember one password. --  Nx/talk  15:38, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Configuration should be in System->Preferences->Encryption and Keyrings, but I can't see anything relevant there. I don't use the keyring though. --  Nx/talk  15:47, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Well, just keep hitting "enter" out of frustration & it works! Thanks for teh help (?), Nx. _and marmite 12:08, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Bizarre reason for wigo format

The old one was like that too, if I'm reading the code right. The reason is that the function is executed once for every tag, and it can't determine whether it's the first or last such tag on the page. Section headers would also break stuff. --  Nx/talk  10:39, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Charles Minard

Thanks so much for re-introducing me to an old friend (the graphic) that I had lost contact with lo these many years since I saw it (probably in Sci Am in the 70's or 80's). Now I shall strive to never forget his name so I can always re-find via RW or WP. And on my hard drive. ħuman 00:10, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

Cunt

No, I'm not offended by the word. (Does that make me big and clever?) Others may be though, I just thought it wasn't a good look, that's all. Matt 09:11, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

The only thing I can imagine that's worse than being offended for yourself is being offended on another's behalf. If there really are these prudes out there, wouldn't it be best to let them speak for them themselves? In any case, how is having c**t any better than simply saying cunt? If you see f**k printed, do you read that as f-asterisk-asterisk-k or simply fuck? I really hope the latter, and if you understand the word as fuck what the hell difference does it make if you camouflage it? It isn't the word that is offensive, it's the context. I can write nigger all day, and nobody could say I was a racist, but the minute I tell someone they're a fucking nigger that's when I become a racist and all round general arsehat. Incidentally, we have an article on cunts, should it be censored for the sake of your silent, moral majority? --JeevesMkII ^{The gentleman's gentleman at the other site} 09:22, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

Quite an ironic post. Would that I could achieve your level of open-mindedness, eh? Matt 09:58, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

Yep, it'd be nice. You could make a start by cutting the witless sarcasm. You remind me of that idiot who called himself MarcusCicero who eventually just descended in to calling all and sundry idiots. You have his style almost to a tee. --JeevesMkII ^{The gentleman's gentleman at the other site} 10:27, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

Now that's ironic. EddyP 14:48, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

(Either WIGOCP or here pick your page) When I first joined RW, I was upset at some of the language, I even protested about an image (can't remember what now). Bill Shak had it "What's in a name ...?" For fuck's sake what's it matter how one refers to a body part? Would it be OK if the quote had used the word "vagina" or "muff" or "twat"? Would "prick" have caused the same reaction? You'd still have had to explain to the kids (other page, sorry) It's all a load of bollocks. Instead of worrying about words, let's worry about the attitudes that make words "bad"; let's worry about real things "Man's inhumanity to man". </rant> Jeeves FTW. _and marmite 16:09, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

Equilibrium reference FTW! Z3ro^talk 16:47, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

I think the image was that cruel tattoo one, Toast. Hell, when you first joined you joined as a man ;) ħuman 23:02, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

Cunt funfact: "cunt" is derived from the same Middle English word as 'quaint', both originally meant 'pleasing thing'. You can see this subtle wordplay somewhere in the Canterbury Tales. Jorge 18:12, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

Speaking of asterisking things out, I've always thought it drew more attention to it, like you're aware that it's a "bad word" and you want people to know you're using a "bad word" rather than just a word to add some emphasis or alter the flow of the sentence. You hear someone go "fuck" on TV and it just seems to pass through unnoticed, but put a whopping great BLEEP over it and everyone turns around and hears it, even if it was mumbled and bearly audible on the original tape. Just a thought, anyway. ^moral 18:47, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

I agree - Jon Stewart, if not bleeped, probably wouldn't swear on his show. But the bleep adds some hip cred to his savvy audience of nappie wetters. OH, and then there's that MPFC classic that listed kn*ckers twice... ħuman 23:03, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

PS, good job on restraining the asterisk, Matt. ħuman 23:04, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

Wait, wait. I clicked the link thinking I'd learn something about King Canute! I didn't expect all this foul-mouthed bandering about! For the record though, I am in favour of cunts. --Kels 23:14, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

So am I, so am I. I suppose I had my reasons for wondering whether we have a line and if so where, but I'm happy enough that we seem to have a consensus. And I learned a few things along the way, which is good. Matt 03:30, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, we don't censor language you dumb cunt. Now please take your deep concern and cluelessness and troll it elsewhere. You have work to do, after all. CP still has other sysops, and only one 'crat... ħuman 03:39, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

Oh crap! I really wasn't trolling, I am absolutely mortified by the trouble I caused. I like it here, so I'll stay if it's all the same.Matt 07:45, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

I prefer "Meat Curtains" or "Scum Flaps" over cunt. Ace McWicked^{The Liquid Room} 03:37, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

** *** ****

Regardless of whether I say cunt or c***, I appreciate your effort to discuss/debate an issue. This site needs more heated debate and discussion, and less circle-jerking each other about how others are ignorant. Teabag 04:42, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

Twat

Unvandal bin me now Ed Poor. Twat. MC

Um, no? --JeevesMkII ^{The gentleman's gentleman at the other site} 13:30, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

Why not?

Oh, pick one of your obsession with Susan or that all you do otherwise is go round calling people twats. You are a vandal. --JeevesMkII ^{The gentleman's gentleman at the other site} 16:53, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

No, I call people who deserve to be called twats, twats. A vandal runs around and throws nonsense into articles and generally is a spammer. Giving some of you a reality check is not only a real pleasure for me, but necessary for this most 'rational' of websites. Take you for example 'JeevesMarkTwo', your original account was vacated in a pathetic little parting shot from yourself. When you left, you promised never to come back... yet you did! How sad and pathetic you really are that you get your little kicks in labelling people vandals on an internet website. Like Susan you kick up these periodic little tantrums, run off and promise never to come back. If only you'd keep to your promise.

Unblock me now, taking away my sysopry is fair enough, but labelling me a vandal is just dishonest. TWAT.

No, you aren't getting un-vandal binned. If nothing else, it means I only have to listen to your whining every half an hour. If you feel hard done by, I suggest you take it to the admin abuse page. Maybe you can find someone else more sympathetic to your stalking and bitching. --JeevesMkII ^{The gentleman's gentleman at the other site} 20:44, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

Nice Man

Not 100% sure, and too at-work to check, but I believe your Peep Show quote is misattributed to Mark when it is in fact Jez who says that. You oughta change that, it's misleading. NICE MAN. --seventhrib 16:35, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

Fairly sure I got it right, but I don't immediately have the ep handy to confirm that. --JeevesMkII ^{The gentleman's gentleman at the other site} 20:43, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

Peep show's brilliant. I love it when Mark's walking into his office after jilting Sophie and goes "Please help me Jesus! If you help me I'll believe in you! ... She's looking away! Thank you Jesus! Although it was 50/50, I might need a bit more proof than that..." SJ ^Debaser 19:56, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

Slogan

I know I'm getting on a bit but can you explain the "1997" in your addition to the RW slogan list? Генгис^{RationalWiki GOLD member} 18:18, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

A random year, probably. Stupid evil Hoover! 18:23, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

No, actually epic fail on my part. I meant 2007. My wandering fingers tend to do silly things like this when my mind is elsewhere. --JeevesMkII ^{The gentleman's gentleman at the other site} 19:12, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

That's what I thought. I still haven't got used to living in the 21^st century. Генгис^pillaging 19:33, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

You just crashed Capturebot2

I don't know what you did, probably edit conflicted it. I assume you're running the bot under your username, right? If that's the case, you'll have to use pages in your userspace, i.e. User:JeevesMkII/configuration, User:JeevesMkII/console etc.

I done bwoke it? That's unpossible! --JeevesMkII ^{The gentleman's gentleman at the other site} 12:50, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

I assumed it would overwrite your changes, and ignore the edit conflict, guess I was wrong. -- Nx / talk 13:00, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

Re: this discussion

imagemagick is pretty dumb about converting images. It loads the entire buffer into memory; netpbm's pnmtopng tool seems to do on the fly instead of loading it all into RAM before proceeding. netpbm may also have a tool that concatenates images similarly efficiently, but I haven't checked that out. PNM files are ridiculously easy to concatenate with simple code, though. Fedhaji 04:34, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Rsync and gzip

Question, that I can not find a good answer too, do you know if the -rsyncable option on gzip keeps the diff increments that rsync needs to transfer to a remote server during synchronization close to uncompressed increments? tmtoulouse 22:31, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

I'm not sure if I understand the question, but if you're asking if you gzip a whole bunch o' stuff that has previously been rsync'd whether you're going to get a ginourmous diff next time you rsync everything, the answer is yes even with the -rsyncable flag. --JeevesMkII ^{The gentleman's gentleman at the other site} 13:07, 25 June 2009 (UTC)