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Bonitas non est pessimis esse meliorem.
("To be good, it is not enough to be better than the worst.")
—Lucius Annaeus Seneca

The "not as bad as" argument, or the fallacy of relative privation, is a form of the moral equivalence fallacy that takes note of the existence of things that are worse than what is actually under discussion — for different purposes, as outlined below.

It's popular with people who know perfectly well they're doing something wrong; being fully aware that they're doing something wrong, they feel compelled to attempt to justify it and do so by pointing to other (usually worse) actions.


[edit] Forms

There are a few different reasons someone will want to pull a "not as bad as" comparison. Consider a generic argument about something, A, and the reasoning below:

B happened, and is worse than A.
Therefore A is justified.

This is the most blatantly fallacious form of the argument and is a hindsight version of the "not as bad as" argument that states past actions can legitimise current actions. The existence of a worse atrocity in the past, however, does not actually justify anything — it merely points out that there have been similar things in the past. People who use this as a justification may be well aware that it's logically fallacious, and use it purely as rhetoric, or as a distraction.

Holocaust deniers and apologists use this quite frequently: "the Holocaust was bad, but Stalin killed more" is technically true, but this ignores the Axis' willingness to encourage World War II and is irrelevant if discussing murders carried out under Hitler's regime. Similarly "Internet censorship in the US isn't as bad as internet censorship in China" is true, but not relevant to discussing the erosion of free speech in a country that holds free speech to be an important part of human rights. It is irrational to set the bar of what makes something wrong at the worst possible atrocity, as doing so would justify all other actions except the one that is judged to be the worst at any given moment.

It is also used occasionally as a particularly underhanded emotional appeal, in an attempt to guilt trip someone, in order to have them stop voicing a complaint. For example: 'Feminists of the past had it WAY harder than modern feminists, so modern feminists should shut up!!'

[edit] Sometimes valid

Action B is worse than action A.
Therefore action A is the right thing to do.

This is perhaps the most valid comparison that can be drawn if discussing two courses of action that can be taken, but like most "not as bad as" arguments potentially suffers from the fallacies of the false dichotomy and argument from adverse consequences. If the argument is about ranking things from bad to worse then it's fine; but you cannot justify A by citing only B because the two may not have anything to do with each other. This is common if secret option 'C is actually the best, but someone wants to make a red herring to avoid anyone spotting its existence.

B happens more frequently, is more dangerous, or causes more harm than A.
Therefore A can be ignored.

This form crops up most often when discussing discrimination, but seriously falls into the false dichotomy trap by implying that one can only focus their attention on A or B and is incapable of expressing moral outrage over both. It can be valid as a practical if you have to split limited resources and must prioritise the most dangerous and pressing problems — but it doesn't morally absolve A of any wrongs.

A is a better option because its only alternative is B, which is worse.
Therefore we must keep A.

This is a pragmatic argument if the alternative, B, really does pose a real threat, and there is no secret option C. Would assassinating a dictator in some random country create a power-vacuum that plunges the entire region into war? Then we best put up with the bastard for now! It's also a common pro-choice argument; legal medical abortions in clinics are statistically the safer option compared to backstreets with bottles of bleach and a coat hanger.

Whether these latter forms of the "not as bad as" argument are fallacious comes down to the use of a false dichotomy and whether moral justification is sought exclusively through this argument.

[edit] Other examples

  • Stalin apologists will commonly use this logic, saying "Stalin wasn't as bad as Hitler" and will use this to ignore Stalin's own genocides and crimes or even justify them in some cases. He was also not as bad as the Tsar!
  • Men's rights activists frequently try to downplay the US's own issues with sexism and misogyny by comparing it to the Middle East. This goes from lazy and dishonest comparisons to open Islamophobia, white supremacy and xenophobia very quickly.
  • Richard Dawkins's notorious "Dear Muslima" letter, in response to Rebecca Watson's comments about being sexually propositioned in a hotel elevator.
  • "Women are stereotyped by the media, but it isn't as big of a problem as poverty, wars, or human rights in the world!" (See Bjorn Lomborg for a similar one on global warming.)
  • "Yes, the US is keeping secret prisons, but we're not as bad as Saddam Hussein!"
  • "Sure, US forces tortured people in Afghanistan, but it's not as bad as what the Japanese did in WWII."
  • "Catholic priests may rape children, but what about all the bad things Stalin did?"
  • "Barack Obama might be detaining people without trial and bombing civilians in other countries, but Bush did far worse."
  • John McCain's "Sure, Americans are 'war-weary' but what about the 'war-weariness' of Syrians?"[1]
  • "Smoking may be a bad thing but it's not as bad as global warming/car exhausts/body odor etc."
  • "RationalWiki may have just stepped on your personal toe, but it's not as bad as Conservapedia!"
  • "Sure, many developed countries may still have homelessness, but at least here they have bridges to sleep under and garbage cans to eat out of!"
  • Guns rights advocates sometimes argue that gun ownership shouldn't be restricted, because cars kill more people than guns and we're still allowed to have cars. This is bizarre, as they would otherwise insist that people (here bad drivers and good marksmen) kill people.

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