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Finite[edit]

Looking at this is confusing me. Either I don't get Roger's point, or he's completely wrong. He quotes this:

If there is a finite probability of something happening (ie. a planet forming around a star, or a galaxy forming), then in an infinite universe there will be an infinite number of that thing.

That makes sense to me. But not to Roger apparently:

In this sentence, the word "finite" has to be read as "non-zero" to make any sense. Finite means not infinite. He is confusing zero with infinite.

Umm, is he? CrundyTalk nerdy to me 09:05, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

As any language, the English language is full of inconsistencies and odd phrases. Finite chance is traditionally used for a non-zero chance. I suppose, that finite chance even predates non-zero chance, and (nearly) everyone knows what is meant. I would imagine that it has something to do with finite odds. larronsicut fur in nocte 09:22, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

Roger flip-flops on obesity, contradicts with Andy too[edit]

"Just look at how fat public school kids are. Maybe the statistic is slightly off, but I could find 5 stories in 60 seconds decrying the obesity in public school kids." --Andy, Dec. 21, 2008

"Eating more slowly will not solve the planet's problems. Obesity is a bigger problem than starvation." --Roger, Jan. 11, 2010

"The most nutritious foods are also the most fattening foods." --Roger, Feb. 8, 2010

Double U. Tee. Eff.

On a related note, why not create a new section documenting instances when Roger/Andy get into edit fights on CP. From WIGO, I've seen several, like: File:Wigo307_0.png, differences on "Quantifying Openmindedness" (july 2007), etc.? AP (talk) 04:31, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

Rowan Atkinson?[edit]

I was just trying to be funny, and shouldn't articles inject humor where appropriate? Also, SPOV! AP (talk) 04:28, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

Is it really funny? He doesn't even look like him... ħumanUser talk:Human 04:30, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
But I beg to differ. That's why I said...Rog has curlier hair than Atkinson. I mean, think about how George W. Bush looks like a chimpanzee. AP (talk) 04:47, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
Post a picture here of Rowan that looks like Roger, then. Also, why on Earth is it funny that Roger might look like Rowan?? ħumanUser talk:Human 04:54, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
Hmm. Maybe the Mr. Bean connection? Blue (pester) 05:02, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
Maybe, perhaps. I still wanna see side-by-side evidence, dammit, Jim! ħumanUser talk:Human 05:45, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
Wikipedia. And browser tabs. AP (talk) 20:51, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
Not to mention Mr. Bean being "a child in a grown man's body" too. Roger boldly expresses antiquated social conservative views (how many times have you read him using "Moslem" and "Mohammedan" to refer to Islam topics?) under the guise of "American patriarchy". AP (talk) 20:56, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
They've both got big noses. That's about it.  Lily Inspirate me. 20:57, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
Not similar, not amusing, not worth mentioning. WẽãšẽĩõĩďWeaselly.jpgMethinks it is a Weasel 23:04, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

Why have this?[edit]

I haven't been around for all too long, but as far as I can tell Roger is a bit player at CP and always has been. Yes, he's an administrator, but only because he was born a Schlafly. Yet now when someone googles Roger, the first page is this hit piece which digs up all kinds of personal information, calls him a "raving paranoiac", finds a lot of objectionable things he's said, posts an old personals ad of his, etc. And of course none of this has anything at all to do with Conservapedia, which I guess is the purported reason for this page to exist in the first place.

Roger may be a total dick, but I don't think it's really fair to him to have a page like this. We could write a page to make just about anyone look like an ass if we looked at everything they've said online. IMO, this page has nothing to do with the mission anyway, so I propose to delete it, or to make it about Roger the Conservapedian. --Benod (talk) 17:35, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

A few weeks ago, we had an (AFAIR) inconclusive discussion about whether CP sysops are public figures. In my opinion, his behaviour on CP, views he's published elsewhere, and professional background are relevant and public information, so that's OK. His personal ad, on the other hand, should go. And the "failed cryptographer" paragraph is unsourced. Röstigraben (talk) 17:54, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
Sounds fair to me. But even if he's a failed cryptographer, who cares? I don't think the CP sysop pages need to be a chronicle of all their personal and professional failures. Stick to their actions on CP and maybe their other political activities as is relevant. --Benod (talk) 18:02, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
Actually, it would be nice if we could use Roger's article as an example to develop a general guideline. The last time, I wasn't too sad to see the discussion peter out, because it just got people's tempers up and wasn't really going anywhere, but I guess that was because it revolved around the biggest asshole over at CP. Roger's an idiot, confirmed misogynist and right-wing hack, but he's not important enough to be universally loathed. Röstigraben (talk) 18:12, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
And when it comes to maths and physics, he's the closest CP has to a voice of sanity - David Gerard (talk) 18:31, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
Isn't the personal ad just a fictional joke? Blancmange (talk) 18:35, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
Yes, I think this beardshifting guy have a certain degree of ignorability, and doesn't quite deserve to be detested. I think we should add some template call at the top of the page, claiming something like:

This article has been considered to reflect a generally ignorable topic, so if you feel you have better things to do, you may either press the Random page key at the upper left, or you might stop surfing and have some real life.

Rursus dixit (yada³!) 08:55, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

Nutty: Tempted to vape this and other hit pieces about bit players[edit]

I wouldn't stop you. Keep a bare-bones pgph as a subsection on Conservapedia P-Foster Talk ""Santorum is the cream rising to the top."" 20:53, 28 March 2012 (UTC)

I'm increasingly sensitive to the fact that RW 'must' go post-CP to some extent if it's going to help attract outside funding for the RWF. I don't see that as meaning that we need to stop commenting and covering the major players vis a vis Schlafly's inability to control the increasingly insane message over there, but stuff like this is plain inappropriate. The guy's a nobody and all articles like this do is open us up to potentially legit criticism. Nutty Rouxnever mind 20:57, 28 March 2012 (UTC)
Nuke 'em. ТyYes? 20:58, 28 March 2012 (UTC)
Keep it. Really, you behave as you have married upwards and are now trying to get rid of your family heirlooms as a paint-by-number picture of a couple of dogs playing poker drawn by your deceased uncle is beneath contempt for your new relatives...
I don't think that the pure information gathered in the portrait is worth very much, but it is part of our history. Live with it!
End of rant. larronsicut fur in nocte 21:08, 28 March 2012 (UTC)
This one, at least, needs to stay. Rog's voice of relative (in both terms) sanity is definitely worthy of inclusion. TerrenceKoeckring (talk) 21:10, 28 March 2012 (UTC)
In my expert opinion as an Internet wiki reading person who adds timely insights to discussions on talk pages, the relativity talk edits are fucking hilarious and seriously make it look like Andy's real reason for hating relativity is not the one he states. What really pisses him off is that his brother understands it and he doesn't. Maybe he used to think, "when I'm older I'll be as smart as Roger, or even smarter," but it never happened. Fonzie (talk) 21:37, 18 August 2014 (UTC)