Eric Dubay

Eric Dubay

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Eric Dubay is an American author, YouTuber and blogger known for believing in just about every single conspiracy theory in all of existence. Although he is most known for his advocacy for Flat Earth, he also has done everything from arguing that the world is controlled by a royal bloodline to denying the Holocaust. At this point, one would be hard pressed to find a single conspiracy he doesn't believe.

A partial list of things Dubay believes

Image made by Dubay to show how George W. Bush is related to so many important figures.

• The Earth is flat.
• "America’s entry into World War II was another calculated event, not the result of a surprise Japanese attack."
• The Oklahoma City bombing was a false flag.
• 9/11 was an inside job.
• The Boston Marathon bombing was a false flag.
• The US Presidents come from the same bloodline. His evidence for this is the fact that many politicians are related, albeit several generations apart. Of course, given all humans are related if you go back far enough, this is in no way surprising nor is it proof of any sort of conspiracy.
• FEMA camps "complete with biometric scanners, barbed wire facing inwards, gas lines and furnaces, heli-pads, watchtowers, and security cameras" have been built by the government.
• "Nuclear weapons are a hoax."
• Evolution isn't real.
• Dinosaurs weren't real. This actually ended up getting the attention of Paleontologist Trevor Valle, who responded to him during an episode of The Joe Rogan Experience.
• The Holocaust never occured.
• "South Pole Does Not Exist."
• Earth is not a planet.
• Relativity is not real.
• Gravity is not real.
• Vaccines are dangerous.
• AIDS was created by the government.

The flat Earth, his favorite subject

Image from his website

Dubay does by far the largest amount of content on why he thinks the world is flat. This is the man who put together "200 Proofs Earth is Not a Spinning Ball," a massive Gish Gallop claiming to provide evidence for his beliefs. To debunk the entire thing would require a page of its own, however the first claim Dubay makes is worth highlighting because it shows some rather selective skepticism on his part:

The horizon always appears perfectly flat 360 degrees around the observer regardless of altitude. All amateur balloon, rocket, plane and drone footage show a completely flat horizon over 20+ miles high. Only NASA and other government “space agencies” show curvature in their fake CGI photos/videos.

Even ignoring the fact this just isn't true as you can see the curvature of the Earth starting at about 50,000 feet, or less than ten miles high, one would think that a man so dedicated to the idea that not everything is what it seems — in fact, most things are radically different from what first appears to be the truth — would be able to understand that, well, sometimes the truth is not what it seems like at first glance.

Dubay uses this method to justify many of his claims about astrology, writing on his website:

Modern astronomy has absolutely convinced the world, as George Bernard Shaw stated, that nothing that is obvious is true. It is obvious that the Earth is flat, yet they say it is curved; it is obvious that the world is motionless, yet they say that it moves; it is obvious that the heavens revolve around us, yet they say it is us that revolves; it is obvious that the stars are stars yet they say the stars are suns; it is obvious that the Sun is bigger than the stars, yet they say the stars are bigger than the Sun; it is obvious that the Sun and Moon are the same size, yet they say the Sun is 400 times larger; it is obvious that Earth is the only “planet,” yet they say there are over a septillion (1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000) planets; it is obvious that up is up and down is down, yet they say it is not so!

First off, nobody claims that "stars are suns," what scientists actually believe is that suns are stars, not the other way around. In the same regard, nobody says "stars are bigger than the sun," because, even ignoring the fact that the sun is a star, what scientists actually claim is that the sun is about average sized for a star, meaning some stars are much bigger and some are much smaller.

However, one could easily use this same trick against basically everything Dubay argues. It is obvious, for example, that gravity is real, yet Dubay believes that to be a hoax.

Eric the rapper

On one occasion, Eric Dubay attempted to explain his beliefs through a rap.

This is one of the more famous things Eric has done, it was mentioned in Hbomberguy's video on flat earth and That Weasel covered it in an episode of his series "Feeding the Trolls."

Here's a sample of the lyrics:

Anyway, it's me, yoga guy weaponized version 2.3 here

To bring truth to the unwashed masses, force you to put on your "They Live" glasses

What you see?

Was I right?

The Earth's fucking flat - holocaust denied

Hitler was cool and not a bad guy

Talmudic Jews have control of your mind

Masons are tools singing shalom L'chaim

The Jesuits too, they're the Vatican kind

The Presidents come from a royal bloodline

While the Jews choose which fool's ass is assigned

The government's leading in mafia crime

The word broken down means control of the mind

They probably will kill me for making this rhyme

And when they do that take the hint as a sign

That Dubay was right all along the whole time!

Given Dubay has not been killed for his rapping skills, we assume that means we can take that as a sign he was wrong the whole time. Although, one has to wonder why the government, who has mind control powers, wouldn't just mind control him to take back everything he's ever said.

Also, the word "government" does not mean "control of the mind," it means "Instrument used to direct or rule."

Eric's two tactics

Eric has two major tactics to spread his nonsensical ideas, and funnily enough both are essentially the opposite extremes — and neither make for good argumentation.

The first one is to Gish Gallop others, primarily through making a large amounts of claims in a short period of time in order to make it look like he has more in favor of his case than he actually does. The aforementioned "200 Proofs Earth is Not a Spinning Ball" is a good example of this. He has also read old audiobooks which use the same tactic, such as 20 Reasons Against Newtonianism, 20 Proofs Earth is an Extended Plane, and 50 Scientific Facts for the Downfall of Modern Astronomy(which he admits is from 1896, so calling it a refutation of "modern astronomy" in this day and age is rather misleading).

Another tactic, and another form of Gish Galloping, is making videos so long that nobody except his hardcore fans would be willing to sit through them, basically meaning anybody who would turn a skeptical eye to what he says is unlikely to even bother engaging. In December 2023, for example, he put out "Spiritual Science (Full Videobook)" which goes on for 9:07:14, and this was followed up with the 8:10:27 video "The Flat Earth Conspiracy (Full Videobook)" a month later. Somebody who wants to go through these videos to debunk them would have to spend, bare minimum, seventeen hours to go through everything.

On the other end, Dubay sprinkles memes and other images throughout his video to help communicate his ideas in short and memorable ways. Although there is nothing inherently wrong with this, it is important to remember that the length of these quips inherently means that information is going to have to be condensed or, more frequently, just left out.

Dubay's meme about milk

Although he did not create this meme, one image he showed while talking about veganism, specifically an image where a man is drinking milk straight from the udder of a cow, is a good example of this. The entire joke being that, because doing this would obviously be absurd, drinking milk is also quite silly.

Even ignoring the fact any fan of Animaniacs can tell you why this is, as they would say, a bad idea, the reason why humans don't just drink milk straight from the cow is because milk needs to be pasteurized before it is safe to drink. Specifically, the process of pasteurization kills harmful pathogens that are present in milk when it first comes out of the cow.

Stopped Clock

Although he does tend to fill even his better writings with conspiratorial nonsense, this is not to say he doesn't occasionally stumble across something true. For example, his writing on Christopher Columbus is fairly solid. In the same regard, although one can mock his calling it the "New World Order diet," his discussion of the health concerns regarding the carnivore diet is totally correct. Similarly, his article on Biblical literalism does raise some rather good points about the issues with engaging in such a practice, however he fills it with this bizarre idea that humans are only supposed to read The Bible with the right-side of their brains.