RationalWiki:Chicken coop

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HCM Level 2

Heavy combat.

The chicken coop is for the avoidance, containment and resolution of cases of Headless Chicken Mode (HCM). Despite the name, this tends to be serious business.

This page can be used for reporting cases of administrative abuse (abuse of sysop or moderator abilities such as blocking, page deletion, or user rights management), general abuse (such as trolling, wandalism, and personal attacks), and conflicts which cannot be solved through normal talk page discussion (such as long-standing edit wars or article content disputes). Please be specific and include links to any relevant discussions, page edits or logs.

All editors are welcome to comment on the cases raised here, and to try to reach a consensus on any action to be taken. If no consensus can be reached, and the HCM seems to be escalating, moderators are expected to take some action. However, any serious or permanent solution, such as removal of rights or lengthy ban, requires a community vote here according to the guidelines laid out in our Community Standards.

Please try to resolve conflicts directly through discussion on other editor's talk pages before reporting them. It's better to just talk to someone rather than try to drag their name through the mud.

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When presenting a case here, be sure to include whom you are accusing, what exactly you are accusing them of, some hard evidence, and a brief explanation. Since the sole purpose of the Coop is to resolve these disputes, don't post unrelated or more generalized complaints here — if you do, your posts will be moved off the page. Any vote started within 48 hours of filing will be deleted and you will be blocked.

Use {{CoopNotice}} to inform the user in question, so that they have a chance to discuss their actions here.

As a final note, if you think this page is a good tactic to apply in gaming the mob into doing your bidding, you may be shocked to see your post archived quite swiftly.

Bongolian again

Blocked User:What a Wonderful World for "doxing" despite no doxing. Conspirate (talk) 03:29, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

Please provide citations and context for your claims. Cosmikdebris (talk) 03:41, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

Unless you're one and the same, I did not accuse you of doxing (as you said on User talk:Oxyaena#What are we, three?); it was What a Wonderful World whom I accused. The doxing activity took place on #User talk:D in reference to a photo. @D can confirm this because he saw it, and any of the moderators can also confirm it because they'll have access to the hidden edit. Bongolian (talk) 03:49, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

1. I am a sock of WWW 2. What is D babbling about? He clearly doesn't know what he is talking about. Conspirate (talk) 04:01, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

@Cosmikdebris [1]. Conspirate (talk) 04:03, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

If it was because of my reference to a particular user, I didn't mention her name or address or anything, just mentioned how we know each other IRL (which she can confirm). Stop being stupid. This is just as asinine as when you tried to accuse me of harassing Lefty Green Mario. Conspirate (talk) 04:05, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

{EC)I saw the discussion in question before it was vaporized and hidden. You appear to have outed Public School Girl referencing a picture of her on your CP page. I'm assuming this was the rationale for the doxxing block on What a Wonderful World. I'm also assuming that @Bongolian acted in good faith. So, why are you starting moar drama here? Cosmikdebris (talk) 04:11, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

You are correct, @Cosmikdebris. WWW/Conspirate is the stupidest sock pair in memory, since he's basically now admitted to ban evasion by raising this coop case. Bongolian (talk) 04:16, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

A picture of her with me... Okay, technically yes that's a link to her off-wiki, but classifying that edit as "doxing" is ridiculous. She registered here because of me, by the way. Conspirate (talk) 04:16, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

It's not ridiculous at all because she removed her photo because of harassment, then you immediately posted information to find another photo of her. That's doxing and harassment. Bongolian (talk) 04:22, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

You people are a bunch of drama queens, my boyfriend (WWW) just texted me about this, and I think it is immature. Leave him alone, and leave me out of this. I don't want anything further to do with this website. Public School Girl (talk) 04:25, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

That's the whole point of this discussion. Why in the world would Conspirate bring this up here, if not to stir up drama? He should just shut the fuck up and quit littering this website with drama. So his sock got kickbanned, big deal, create a new one. It looks like his other sock is going to be kickbanned soon. Go away, we don't appreciate you or your drama here. You contribute nothing to rational discussion and it appears that you are only here to harass people and stir up useless drama. Cosmikdebris (talk) 04:34, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

Mainly what I did here was revert vandals, hardly what I would call stirring "useless drama" Public School Girl (talk) 04:41, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

Sure. And you're openly hostile to this place's mission, and your "boyfriend" appears to be a drama queen, and you are calling us drama queens? Go find another site to troll. Cosmikdebris (talk) 04:47, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

So you're going to ideologically ban her even though she did nothing to hurt you people. The hypocrisy of this wiki! Conspirate (talk) 04:52, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

She can come back any time she likes, even though she's LANCBed several times in the last few days (which is quite hilarious in a perverse drama queen way). I was just stating the fucking obvious. You and your ilk have done nothing to further the mission of RationalWiki. You are a part of a very tired "lol im going to pensacola" meme that we all find very tiring. Cosmikdebris (talk) 05:00, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

If you are accusing her of being Grawp, she is not Grawp anymore than Rationalzombie is Grawp (well... I technically don't know he's not Grawp). Conspirate (talk) 05:13, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

@Conspirate @Public School Girl If you hate us so much why do you still come here? — Dr. Ox ^{quack specialist} 05:21, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

She doesn't hate you, she just disagrees with you. She is too sweet and nice to hate anyone. But she doesn't like the Grawp trolling telling her she should be raped and stuff like that, so that's why she wants to LANCB. Conspirate (talk) 05:24, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

I don't dislike Public School Girl, and I never really got the sense that she genuinely dislikes anyone here. I also don't see the case for doxxing; I doubt WWW is trying to instigate sexual harassment against his own girlfriend. His edit seems more like a case of bad judgement than anything else. I no fan of WWW, but I see no reason to keep him banned. I (somewhat unhappily) support unblocking. DuceMoosolini^{Your friendly RW dictator moderator} 06:19, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘It was most certainly a doxing because WWW did it without express permission within RationalWiki of the doxee. Permission was only given implicitly after the fact. Bongolian (talk) 06:28, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

I dunno, I still don't see it. I think the intent matters, and I checked his CP page and saw that he deleted the picture in question. So, from where I'm standing, the lack of foul intent and the fact that he made things right means that I still think he should be unblocked. Dumb? Sure. Ban-worthy? Nah. Not this time. And with the information I have available, that's gonna be the way I vote. DuceMoosolini^{Your friendly RW dictator moderator} 06:39, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

@DuceMoosolini, I don't think the WWW/Conspirate deserves the benefit of the doubt here. I draw your attention to this altercation from last year which I believe is what led to the Sysoprevoke (by @CheeseburgerFace) of WWW: User talk:What a Wonderful World/Garbage Can#DO Not. @LeftyGreenMario could also weigh in on this based on WWW's behavior back then. Bongolian (talk) 06:59, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ I permabanned Morris and removed his sysop rights. Bitch all you want I don't care, sometimes the deed needs to be done. — Dr. Ox ^{quack specialist} 07:44, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

Unblocking Morris

Why? This site doesn't need toxic filth like him. It's like every time he logs on there's trouble, even UT doesn't harass and even potentially dox people. He even says on his user page at CP he's here to troll. Don't be so coy, sometimes unilateral actions are necessary. — Dr. Ox ^{quack specialist} 07:51, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

I unblocked him because it’s bad form to deny a coop defendant the right to speak on his own behalf on the coop page. DuceMoosolini^{Your friendly RW dictator moderator} 07:59, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

Ban Morris

For long term disruption, being toxic and trolling talk pages, repeated doxxing under their main account, plus suspected harassment with socks and BoNs (and known periods of editing with BoNs in the past). Not to mention their being a sysop on Conservapedia where they brag about trolling our "sissy punk" site which they apparently edit strictly for "entertainment purposes", and for other assorted offenses like banning people on Conservapedia for being sockpuppets of Bongolian and attempting to assassinate our Wikipedia page, all of which shows a distinct lack of commitment to being useful to RationalWiki. I note that their numerous previous offenses here have resulted in sysoprevoke and several narrowly revoked indefinite blocks. — Dysk (contribs) 09:22, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

Well, since Conspirate has admitted to being a sockpuppet of What a Wonderful World. And since What a Wonderful World was permabanned for attempted doxing, I think Conspirate should be banned for block evasion. That's regardless of what he's done on Conservapedia, Wikipedia or anywhere else. Spud (talk) 09:34, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

Seconded. — Dr. Ox ^{quack specialist} 09:36, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

Well he has done that several times before when blocked so yeah. — Dysk (contribs) 09:44, 12 May 2019 (UTC)