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Have a look at this. It is from Egyptian TV. Do ask your Egypt-Arab-speaking friends whether the translation is correct if you doubt it. 149.210.131.21 (talk) 22:52, 13 July 2016 (UTC)

Shut up Avenger. PBfreespace (talk) 00:33, 16 July 2016 (UTC)
Who is Avenger? 149.210.131.21 (talk) 00:43, 16 July 2016 (UTC)
What the hell is wrong with the OP (There is no user name so I went with OP)? While Hamas seems more sane than other terror groups, they are still a terror group.--Rationalzombie94 (talk) 15:41, 13 January 2017 (UTC)

Why is this article pro-Palestinian propaganda???[edit]

It has been thoroughly verified that Hamas uses human shields. [1] Which user was stupid enough to deny that in this article????? Unclescrooge (talk) 14:05, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

There actually is a lot of propaganda from both sides on the "human shields" claim, so it's hard to know what is bullshit or not at a casual glance. But yes, even a report from the UN that Israel didn't like said Hamas uses citizens to shield military assets. That section needs a lot more balance, it seems. PanGalacticGargleBlaster (talk) 14:23, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
"Pro-Hamas" does not equal "pro-Palestine". ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 14:35, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
Long story short, years ago, half the wiki had a huge fight over the I-P articles. The damage had been done and a lot of us kind of threw up our hands on the I-P stuff lest we begin the wars again, even in cases like the BLM article that really has no business having the I-P stuff inserted in there. CorruptUser 15:01, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
I don't know about this Hamas case, but it's sad how damage on RW usually lasts for so long. I'm having a hard time fixing articles on economics written by the same three users ten years ago. Almost everything they posted is fractally wrong, even if we consider the views of the fringe economics schools that they allegedly adhere as correct. GeeJayK (talk) 15:12, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
I like to think I got the Israel article into good shape. Pizza SLICE.gifChef Moosolini’s Ristorante ItalianoMake a Reservation 16:09, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

This article needs a lot of cleaning up[edit]

The past few days have shown that the "terrorist" label for Hamas is more than well-earned.-Ryan1257 (talk) 18:52, 9 October 2023 (UTC)

This article needs a lot of cleaning up[edit]

The Terrorist label on Hamas is unwarranted, only Western Europe and US/Canada use that description — Unsigned, by: 196.127.240.80 / talk / contribs

Terrorism is the purview of the non-state actor, or at least definitionally speaking it was until Trump decided to label an entire branch of the Iranian government a terrorist organization. Objectively speaking Hamas is a terrorist group, regardless of what you think of them or their cause. Their tactics are designed to provoke. "Send a message." Terrorist groups do terrorism because it works, it's an effective strategy. That's why they're terrorists. It's a tactic. Carthage (talk) 02:05, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
the label is only added because it was listed if you go by that the definition the state of Israel is a terrorist Organization because what they do in Gaza, they're a resistant actor that defends the Palestinian from and external threats (view the Operation Cast lead), you can add a section of Human rights violation but not in the definition, or add some countries considers them a Terrorist Org for clarity. — Unsigned, by: 196.127.240.80 / talk / contribs
Israel is a state. Hamas is a movement. Carthage (talk) 02:30, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
Israel is doing terrorist act in another "technically a country" if you went by your definition Mahata Ghandi and Nelson Mandela could be considered a terrorist, also they're a movement and a party that's trying to establish an independent country, making the introduction section a propaganda — Unsigned, by: 196.127.240.80 / talk / contribs
On talk pages, please sign your comments using four tildes (~~~~) or by clicking on the sign button: SigButt.png on the toolbar above the edit panel. You can also indent successive talk page comments using one more colon (:) for each line. Thank you. --Goatspeed. Stalk meCircularREmail2.gifasoningSee my experiments 02:42, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
For fuck's sake, please, this is not difficult! Sign your posts with (~~~~) or (if that's too fucking hard) by clicking on the fucking sign BUTTON: SigButt.png on the toolbar above the edit panel. (You can indent successive talk page comments using one more colon (:) for each line.) This keeps the place tidy and stops you looking like a complete arsing tool so please, just fucking do it already. --Goatspeed. Stalk meCircularREmail2.gifasoningSee my experiments 02:44, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
Remind me, what's the template for that again? Because it's hilarious. Carthage (talk) 02:48, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
{{signdammit}} --Goatspeed. Stalk meCircularREmail2.gifasoningSee my experiments 03:43, 16 December 2023 (UTC)


Sexual Violence Claim is Bogus[edit]

```` This article claims that Hamas committed sexual violence on October 7 as if it's fact. That has not been proven. It's more than likely a genocidal hoax by Israel. Not a single supposed rape victim from October 7 is known. — Unsigned, by: 2600:2b00:b706:7f00:1c7c:a38e:984d:c566 / talk / contribs

Soldiers, including those of paramilitaries, commit sexual abuse in the course of conflicts. This becomes more likely when the opposing side has been dehumanized to a sizable extent. The most generous read of the facts of the Oct 7 attack would hold that sexual abuse was the result of isolated opportunities and personal choice rather than as a form of terrorism organized by Hamas leadership. Put more simply and bluntly, if you believe that Hamas fighters would not rape or abuse Israelis, you are a naive fool. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 20:25, 25 May 2025 (UTC)

Israeli/Qatari support for Hamas not included?[edit]

This article forgot a separate detailed subsection on the Israeli support for Hamas. Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu claimed that any one who wants to thwart a PLO state must transfer money to Hamas. This article should include how Israel (State) and USA supported Hamas, the Palestinian National Authority branch of the Ikhawan as a counterweight to the Palestinian Authority/PLO by donations to the Islamism-symphatizer politician Yassin — Unsigned, by: 184.145.2.165 / talk

Covert Israeli support for Hamas has largely dried up to my knowledge, thanks to Hamas becoming more active in Palestinian politics, and as such more aggressive towards Israel. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 20:20, 25 May 2025 (UTC)

Hamas is left wing[edit]


On a 1 (Einstein) -10 (dumber than Kent Hovind) scale, how dumb is this twitter post?[edit]

https://fstdt.com/R9ZL$JWBJFQ57 ResurrectingDeadLinks (talk) 03:51, 12 June 2025 (UTC)

Hamas is not a puppet of Israel. If it were October 7th wouldn't have happened. However, Israel helped to create Hamas, and also propped it up for years as a counterweight to the secular PLO. Antares (talk) 04:11, 12 June 2025 (UTC)