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I have sent you a very important email[edit]

I've waited ages to say that somewhere... Totnesmartin (talk) 22:34, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

My Redemption[edit]


I noticed you censored the admin abuse page. I just wanted to inform you that I am on my knee's begging for Rationalwiki's forgiveness. I hope you find it in your heart to take me out of the vandal bin as I recognise that I am fault for everything. Will you please forgive me? MarcusCicero (talk) 13:08, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

"This is the last post you will ever see from 'MarcusCicero'." Liar. TheoryOfPractice (talk) 14:09, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
Hello TOP! I hope you had a merry christmas and a happy new year! As you can see, my dramatic turnaround allows me to absolve the rash statements of the past. Redemption allows a new life. I have been reborn in the spirit of rationality. Will you please forgive me? — Unsigned, by: MarcusCicero / talk / contribs


No-one will forgive you, because you are an irritating little shit who prides himself on being an irritating little shit. Your ass-licking won't help. CrundyTalk nerdy to me 14:31, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
Hi Crundy! I hope you had a merry christmas and a happy new year! As you can see, my dramatic turnaround allows me to absolve the rash statements of the past. Redemption allows a new life. I have been reporn in the spirit of rationality. Will you please forgive me? I apologise for being an 'irritating little shit who prides himself on being an irritating little shit', I heartily and deeply apologise. You see, I was trolling then, but have abandoned that life now. I have been report in the spirit of rationality! Will you forgive me?
As Jesus said, The wise man knoweth in his heart when to forgive the transgressions of wrongeth, therefore when the wrong doth repent the wise man does knoweth that it is wisdom to embrace him as your son" Will you forgive me? I throw myself on your feet and plead your liberal understanding of my plight. MarcusCicero (talk) 15:21, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
If I believed you then I might consider it. However, as you've proved in the past you will wheel out any excuse or argument (including pretending you are mentally ill and pretending to be your brother to tell us about your plight) to get your rights back. So no, personally I will never forgive the chaos you caused here and I will never trust anything you say or do ever again. CrundyTalk nerdy to me 15:29, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
It's nice to see that Marcus has turned a new leaf. As time goes on, I hope we can begin to embrace him in our community rather than reject him. Welcome, Marcus. Welcome all over again. — Sincerely, Neveruse / Talk / Block 15:31, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
I agree with what Neveruse just said. A posting limit of 48 per day, plus prompt merciless sockhammering will go a long way towards easing the wayward one back into the flock. 90 days of decent civil behaviour would be a good start in that direction, along with learning to do without pats on the head or pokes in the eye. Sprocket J Cogswell (talk) 15:39, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
I have no doubt that some idiot will promote MC back to sysop again at some point in the near future. When they do, I'm going to take a holiday from the site until he goes on one of his rampages again and gets put back in the bin again. I see no point hanging around while the site goes back into headless chicken mode. CrundyTalk nerdy to me 15:58, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
Hi Crundy! Believe or not I can emphasise with your position. As Machiavelli said, Benefits should be conferred gradually; and in that way they will taste better. I can fully understand where you are coming from. I hope you can find it in your heart to forgive this wayward soul. As John F. Kennedy said, Forgive your enemies, but never forget their names. . You are only acting and thinking reasonably, according to your situation. I mean this fair website no harm. Somehow, along the way, I confused reason with madness. I see I was in the wrong now. You see, last night I had a vision of a world where rationalwiki was right and in which MarcusCicero was wrong. It was a terrible vision which included dragons and dark lords and noble wizards and brave halflings who would venture right into the heart of darkness to put an end to evil in the world for ever. Or maybe that was the Lord of the Rings. Either way, I have admitted my guilt and would appreciate your love and understanding.
P.S. I am sorry about the mental illness stunt, but I was not under any incapacity at the time, and was not in the vandal bin or whatever. I am afraid the one issue where I will not admit guilt about is the actual vandalising of pages, bad as they appear in isolation, I have attempted to explain myself for that numerous times but no-one will listen unfortunately. Maybe you will find it in your heart to reach out the arm of Christian understanding and forgive my past transgressions, no matter how egregious and painful they must have been to this most sensitive of web communities. But, if you think I am wrong I am more than happy to agree with you!
P.P.S. Hello newcomers! I hope you all had a merry christmas and a happy new year! MarcusCicero (talk) 16:13, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

"Bossy Little Prick"[edit]

Anytime you want your rights back, let me know. Aboriginal Noise What the hell is that thing? 22:15, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, but that won't be necessary. -- Nx / talk 22:19, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
Wtf? Did we have another Human vs. Nx-like HCM while I was away for an hour? Good gawd! The Spikey Punk I'm punking my punk! 22:17, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
Stop being such a bitch and learn to have a little fun. — Sincerely, Neveruse513 / Talk / Block 22:20, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
I don't think trolling is fun. -- Nx / talk 22:34, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
If you don't think feeding the troll is fun, then what the fuck are you doing? Do you honestly think I give a fuck about my user talk? I know you like your wiki's serious, but I don't. If I step on your toes and you don't want to dance, shut your mouth and move the fuck on.— Sincerely, Neveruse513 / Talk / Block 22:36, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
You're right, I should've just desysopped you. -- Nx / talk 22:42, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
Wouldn't have worked, because in the name of free speech and tolerance and democracy and love and rainbows and kittens and red tape and a strange obsession to be the complete opposite of CP in every way someone else would have resysopped him. See User:MarcusCicero. EddyP (talk) 22:47, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
Please ignore the idiot above. He is very much in the minority. Professor Moriarty 22:27, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
Agreed. You deserve a rest, but unfortunately you're far too important and useful for the rest of us to allow you to have one. –SuspectedReplicantretire me 22:28, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
I endorse what SuspectedReplicant said above me. Like when you made that cute little "RenameUser" tool so I could rename all of CrookedJim's offensive user names. You are instrumental in keeping this site going. Punky Your mental puke relief 22:59, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
The site functioned for almost two years before I came here. -- Nx / talk 23:04, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
While that is true, that doesn't mean you are not important. What I like about having you around is that, if I need help with something, you respond with that help in a timely manner. The Goonie 1 What's this button do? Uh oh.... 23:07, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
(e/c)I'm sure it did. I'm sure people were quite happy with valve computers before the transistor came along, but it doesn't mean we want to go back. Nx, I'm not saying the site will collapse without you but I am saying that it's much better with you. –SuspectedReplicantretire me 23:08, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
They speak the truth. EddyP (talk) 23:18, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
Yes, they do. Now get back to formatting images! (I'm kidding) Tetronian you're clueless 23:31, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
In all fairness, this site looked like shit before you came. It now looks pretty and shiny, and works cleaner, smoother, and nicer than just about any professional website I have seen. I love the templates, enjoy the little quirks, and are a fan of the limitless little edit gadgets that were your brainchild. This is probably one of the most intuitive and well-designed websites out there, and all because of you. Please stay- the site now needs you to function. --The Emperor Kneel before Zod! 13:16, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
That is disrespectful of the hard work Trent and Linus and others have done before me. Please can we stop? -- Nx / talk 07:29, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for throwing props to the kludge-artists who preceded your cleanup. But your cleanup deserves mention and kudos also. ħumanUser talk:Human 03:22, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

Rights change.[edit]

Don't fuckin' do this. TheoryOfPractice (talk) 05:35, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

Isn't it up to him? Totnesmartin (talk) 10:03, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
And he has server access anyway, so he can get them back if he wants. Professor Moriarty 13:19, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

I have been acting like a bossy prick, that's why I've removed my rights. -- Nx / talk 07:30, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

Ignoring Nx' "reason", I think we should start getting used to a whole lot less "user rights" being handed out like candy here as we grow. For instance, I am tempted to de-crat myself, since I never use the buttons it gives me. There are plenty of others. Heck, I don't even know if use sysop rights here. Please all to get used to the red exclamation points? ħumanUser talk:Human 03:25, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
I'm starting to think that too. We should bring up the user rights issue on the "dealing with community growth" debate, or whatever I called it. Scarlet A.pngpostate 18:17, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
I thought we solved this by neutering sysops? -- Nx / talk 18:20, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, so I suppose it's not a high priority. I was just thinking that, as the community grows, it's not the most appropriate system to use. Most of RW's governance (if you can call it that) was appropriate a year or so ago, but now, it may need to switch to something more conventional. BTW, can we put you back on the sysop list so that you stop showing up on the patrol log, at least? Scarlet A.pngpostate 20:15, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
Or you can just patrol his edits. Doesn't take long. –SuspectedReplicantretire me 20:45, 14 December 2009 (UTC)


I want to lock my talkpage archives to the sysop level (I can e-mail you my reason, I won't discuss it here), but, if I do, it will lock Pibot out of my archive. Therefore, on the page capture menu, could you making locking it to the sysop level locking it to the sysop and bot level, or can bots also edit pages locked at the sysop level? Lord Goonie Hooray! I'm helping! 02:41, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

They can't, but I can give bots the right to edit protected pages. Alternatively we can just give Pibot its sysopship back if it promises not to abuse it and go on a blocking spree again. -- Nx / talk 06:50, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
Which ever way you think would work best. Personally, I'd think both/and would work, so, that way if Pibot loses self-control again, it can still archive to protected pages. But that's just my opinion. Punky Your mental puke relief 18:02, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
I think giving Pibot sysopship would be better than allowing all bots to edit protected pages, and I don't want to create a new usergroup just for editing protected pages. Alternatively it can be given Irrational numbers, which is a mix of bureaucrat and sysop powers -- Nx / talk 18:06, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
If Goonie is locking his talk page, I'm locking mine too. — Sincerely, Neveruse513 / Talk / Block 18:19, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
Archive. -- Nx / talk 18:20, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
I tried to get the stupid bot to do a one hour archive but the god damn thing must be borken. — Sincerely, Neveruse513 / Talk / Block 18:22, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
It runs once every day (around 4 am UTC I think), then it archives any threads that are older than x. In your case, any threads that are older than 1 hour. -- Nx / talk 18:23, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
Sorry, the poorly documented bot, not the broken one. — Sincerely, Neveruse513 / Talk / Block 18:24, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
You can RTFS if you need better documentation. -- Nx / talk 18:29, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
Where in the source does it say how often the bot is run, you bossy little prick? — Sincerely, Neveruse513 / Talk / Block 18:33, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
Shit...nevermind...but still... </MEAN THINGS YOU'LL TAKE SERIOUSLY> — Sincerely, Neveruse513 / Talk / Block 18:34, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
You're right, it doesn't say that, and it is entirely up to us how often it runs. -- Nx / talk 18:36, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

I DID give Pibot Irrational Number rights, so it should be able to access my archives now. Thanks for the input, Nx. The Goonie 1 What's this button do? Uh oh.... 22:22, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

Got a gig for you.--a CBP gig.[edit]

Any chance you could help with the CBP? It's the least we could do for them. TheoryOfPractice (talk) 06:12, 17 December 2009 (UTC)

He could almost do that with regexes, no programming needed. Mjollnir.svgListenerXTalkerX 06:36, 17 December 2009 (UTC)

Take the text. Copy it on a page on RW. Add

{| class="wikitable"
!King James Version
!Proposed Conservative Translation

Before it and |} after it. Activate WikEd. Turn on regexp search and replace. Use ([1-9]+): (.*) as search and |-\n|$1\n|$2\n|\n| as replace. Click replace all and presto, permaban by TK for being a member of the vandal site. -- Nx / talk 10:34, 17 December 2009 (UTC)

You know I hate it...[edit]

When you leave little red exclamation points everywhere, don't you?

Won't you please, please, pleeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaase take a sysopship now? Just so I don't have to see those hideous things? Star of David.png Radioactive afikomen Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments. 11:29, 17 December 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the forum[edit]

Cheers guv. Looking pretty good. --ConcernedresidentAsk me about your mother 18:10, 17 December 2009 (UTC)

The brain is back[edit]

Party animal.gif Thank you, I was missing that. - π 13:42, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

It was there all the time, I just made it optional. I'm not sure which templates should have them and which ones shouldn't -- Nx / talk 13:43, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

Copyright corrections[edit]

Thanks again. I'm making notes as I go along, so in theory you won't have to keep fixing errors. --ConcernedresidentAsk me about your mother 13:29, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

No problem. Thanks again for helping out, although I'm not sure Human will be so happy when he sees you deleting his images... -- Nx / talk 13:35, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
I'll drop a message on his talk page. I don't remember specifically deleting any of his things, but I've looked at so many images over the past couple of days that it's not unlikely. --ConcernedresidentAsk me about your mother 14:03, 19 December 2009 (UTC)


If you're responsible for the Santa-brain-logo-thingy (you can see I have this wiki terminology down pat), I love it! If you aren't, i still love it. --Psygremlin講話 10:49, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

*whistles innocently* -- Nx / talk 10:54, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
I was wondering who to "blame" for that. Very nice touch.--BobNot Jim 11:30, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
(EC) Seconded, I had a couple of windows open and suddenly noticed the red hat. I've been in a complete whiteout this morning and it's completely ruined my arrangements for moving out of my apartment, but the red had maid me smile. Could we have some snow on the text as well? Redchuck.gif ГенгисIs the Pope a Catholic? 11:32, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
You even changed the favicon. Nice touch, sir. --ConcernedresidentAsk me about your mother 11:59, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
I don't know if your following the Santa hat vote - but the "get it back up" vote looks unbeatable. --BobNot Jim 13:43, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
Agreed. At 17 to 4, I think it's safe. Star of David.png Radioactive afikomen Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments. 17:36, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
Concur. Then again, you shouldn't have taken it down because of one person's whiny-assed bitching. --PsygremlinKhuluma! 17:42, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
Well, Nx can be a bit of a pushover at times. (You really need to work on that, Nx.) Star of David.png Radioactive afikomen Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments. 17:46, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

So? Put it back, I don't mind either way. -- Nx / talk 18:15, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

We lack the wiki-fu to do so. --User:Theautocrat/Sig 18:16, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
That's unfortunate. -- Nx / talk 18:17, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
Exactly what I was going to say before I got edit-conflited. Star of David.png Radioactive afikomen Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments. 18:18, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
Pwease give us back Christmas. My optimism dropped by 14% when the image was removed, and I'm pretty sure by the end of the week I'll be listening to The Smiths. --ConcernedresidentAsk me about your mother 20:15, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

You shall have my voice in this worthy cause[edit]

I see some people have created a hubaloo over a cheerful festive hat. You shall have the full power of my oratory at your disposal, if you so wish. EdmundBurke (talk) 16:41, 20 December 2009 (UTC)


Why isn't .jpg a perfectly good format? Cgb07305

Jpeg is for photographs. -- Nx / talk 18:39, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
Or screen captures...or paint...or any damn image. This is a can scale anything. Cgb07305
png is better. or even gif for some screencaps. jpg is full of artifacts, but works well for "shaded" images - ones with lots of blending. ħumanUser talk:Human 01:47, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

The forum looks amazing[edit]

So I thought I'd make this to celebrate:


This is to recognize that


did most of the work on the forum and as a result is


By Tetronian, on December 21, 2009

Thanks :) -- Nx / talk 23:57, 21 December 2009 (UTC)


Sorry for unloading on you the other day. Wiki editing frustrates any added stuff I have to do: 1. scares the shit out of me because I still don't have a clue how this works 2. frustrates the shit out of me because I then have to find another person I can plagiarize off of. In retrospect I really appreciate all your work. Thank you. δij^{} 00:49, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

There's no need to apologize, I was the asshole, so I apologize for that. -- Nx / talk 08:58, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

To Nx...[edit]

All the staff at McWicked Co. wish you a merry christmas.
Thank you, and Merry Christmas to you too. -- Nx / talk 13:43, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

For You[edit]

Mountain goat.jpg

ωεαşεζøίɗWeaselly.jpgMethinks it is a Weasel 21:30, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

GAH! You almost gave me a heart attack. -- Nx / talk 21:36, 25 December 2009 (UTC)


Meicon.png MEMO
Happy New Year, Nx. This is from Useful Mei. It is an appropriate time for festivities, like alcohol. Today try not to eat too much, or too little.
These were only supposed to be for people online at a specific time, but Nx gets one because I like Nx. Don't look at the date. -- =w= 13:19, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
Thank you Mei. Happy new year to you too -- Nx / talk 13:25, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

Crappy wigo[edit]

Are you saying it was a good wigo? It was a piece of crap. I'm getting tired of really shitty "I blogged recent changes at CP" wigos. You got a problem with that? ħumanUser talk:Human 07:47, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

No, I'm not saying it was a good wigo. That's why I removed it. I'm saying you should a) not call someone a "fucking loser" for writing a crappy wigo b) stop using WIGO:CP as a platform to do that. -- Nx / talk 07:48, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
It's standard Human behaviour for the wee small hours, Ignore him: he'll go to bed soon. I am eating Toast& honeychat 07:57, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
Yes, I know it's standard behaviour for him, that doesn't excuse it. -- Nx / talk 08:01, 5 January 2010 (UTC)


LP Ratlogo.svg You have won the "Techno Brat" award for 2009!
RationalwikiwikiUndergroundResistor (talk) 05:49, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
Happy days, Nx, this is a nice award, although it's wording is a bit clumsy. Thanks for all you do. ħumanUser talk:Human 09:03, 9 January 2010 (UTC)


RationalWiki talk:Editor's index I have just eaten Toast& stiltontalk 08:04, 9 January 2010 (UTC)

Let's work this out[edit]

What do you say? Let's have a dialog and get to the bottom of this. I think it's best for us and the community. You can decide the terms (private/public/real time). Just let me know. I'm open to suggestion. I really want to mend our relationship, not just for you or me...for the wiki. — Sincerely, Neveruse / Talk / Block 20:44, 12 January 2010 (UTC)

Haha. Nice try, but the "for the wiki" at the end was a dead giveaway. -- Nx / talk 20:54, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
Aww, I knew it.... Actually, I'm practicing my MarcusSpeak, which includes really lame attempts at sincerity. I'd appreciate any notes. — Sincerely, Neveruse / Talk / Block 20:55, 12 January 2010 (UTC)

Serious IRL business[edit]

You got any interest in doing a modicum of web design for profit? I need two pages done up real nice. — Sincerely, Neveruse / Talk / Block 21:03, 12 January 2010 (UTC)

The continuing stuff ups of WIGOS[edit]

Hi Nx, someone created a WIGO with the poll id wigo31371 about 27,000 entries out of sequence. The WIGO was removed for being offensive as well. Can you clean out the logs? Also, where are you? I haven't seen you about in ages. - π 00:26, 27 January 2010 (UTC)


...if my whining brought you back from your break early. - π 09:36, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

Trollery or not...[edit]

You really need to stop vaping shit form other people's talk pages. Armond is a big girl and she doesn't need Nx to protect her eyes from the words of the big, bad MC. And perma-banning every IP he edits from won't help, either. There are too many IP's/proxies/Tor nodes too make that a viable strategy. Let the baby cry himself to sleep. TheoryOfPractice (talk) 15:06, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

I'm not vaping him from other people's talk pages. I'm vaping him from the wiki. Obviously the ignore him tactic doesn't work, so I'll make him disappear instead. -- Nx / talk 15:46, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
I'm leaning towards the idea of just reverting everything he posts. This isn't censorship. This is about closing the window to lessen the noise coming from the braying lunatic on the street outside our place. I agree with TOP that blocking IPs is a bad idea, but I see no problem with just reverting any edit coming from the clown. He can sit there an post as much as he likes, and we've more than enough people to revert until he gets bored or crosses the line. --ConcernedresidentAsk me about your mother 15:58, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
His has already crossed the line a long long time ago. -- Nx / talk 16:03, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
With CR and Nx on this one. It'll be hard to stop him from editing, but we can revert everything he says. EddyP (talk) 16:17, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
I am also with ConcernedResident and Nx. I would consider oversighting him (MC) but that is probably a can of worms so I'll leave it alone. -- =w= 16:32, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
I'll add a third to that. He's a troll, he admits it, he likes it. the only reason he gets away with it is because we let him. it's not censorship because he's not expressing a view (unless "ha ha you cunts) is a view). Totnesmartin (talk) 23:20, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
Gotta love that. I'm always amazed by people who will hear only what they want to hear. I've made several cutting analyses of this site. Yet it always transfers into 'you people are cunts' in your brain. And watch as this post disappears. This place has rapidly decomposed into something unrecognisable, to the extent where everyone will be reverting everyone elses edits with reckless abandon pretty soon.
In my brain? you went to my WP userpage and called me it. so get off your moral high horse. Totnesmartin (talk) 23:34, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
That's not trolling, that is stalking. Aboriginal Noise What the hell is that thing? 23:37, 30 January 2010 (UTC)


Thank you for supporting my 'doomed petition'. You are one of the very sensible people who I expected to disapprove and tell me off. /hugs nx -- =w= 16:34, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

A few months ago I would have. -- Nx / talk 16:34, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
I'd never have suggested it a few months ago. Before now I thought people would eventually ignore him. -- =w= 16:41, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

Don't fuck with my talk page[edit]

Ever again. Thanks. TheoryOfPractice (talk) 16:59, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

Get over yourself...[edit]

I am the drama queen. You actually know how the software works. TheoryOfPractice (talk) 22:55, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

Come on dude[edit]

Don't be a queen. Lets work on this. Acei9 22:55, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

Image work[edit]

Just wanted to let you know I think it's good of you to do that stuff. It's not glamorous and it's under-appreciated, but vital.--AD(talk) 10:08, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. I apologize for being anal-retentive, but if we're going to criticize CP for being lax with image licensing... -- Nx / talk 10:18, 2 February 2010 (UTC)


Sorry, didn't mean to upset you with image licensing, I just gotta learn a few more tricks. Acei9 18:55, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

Image capturing[edit]

There are a lot of red-link images on Conservapedia:Best of Conservapedia. Is Capturebot2 equipped to capture block logs? That seems to be the majority of the red links on that page. Also, I'm not sure if it is couth to remove the capture tags from that page, as it is an archive and all, but there are some non-block log images that failed to take and are already burned from CP. There is a lot of clutter in the Wanted Pages that can be cleaned up by fixing/removing these tags. Let me know how to go about doing this. Thanks! Aboriginal Noise What the hell is that thing? 13:22, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

Capturebot 1 didn't capture log pages (and the wigo extension didn't display them) before Trent got a bigger HDD for the server. Unless you want to go and edit the wigo archives and add an option to every wigo tag that doesn't have log captures, I can't do anything about it. Disregard that, see next reply -- Nx / talk 13:47, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
I'll probably go ahead and do that. then, or just outright remove the capture tags from the logs (essentially, the logs aren't going anywhere). Thanks again. Aboriginal Noise What the hell is that thing? 13:57, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
But you can't remove the capture tags. The problem is that any link to cp within <wigo img=on> gets an img tag. I believe the old wigo extension only put img tags on logs if it was in <wigo img=extended>, but the new one doesn't differentiate between the two options. I'll dig up Trent's old code and see what I can do. -- Nx / talk 14:03, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

"split footnotes and references"[edit]

I hate to make a new silly wiki-war, but do you mind explaining this in a way we can all either follow or ignore? ħumanUser talk:Human 11:12, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

wp:WP:REFNOTE -- Nx / talk 11:15, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
I wouldn't call that an "answer" or an "explanation". This isn't wikipedia. Not sure what you're trying to do, but it will make things very complicated for everyone if we are all to try to to follow the new idea you haven't explained anywhere on every article. Our simple "footnotes" that include chatty comments and citations seem to work just fine. ħumanUser talk:Human 11:22, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
Whatever. -- Nx / talk 11:23, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
I think Nx has a point. Especially on large articles, it can be annoying to follow a reflink only to discover that it referred to a jokey comment rather than a serious citation. On other occasions, like when drunk and looking for silliness, the reverse can be true. Coming up with a proper dividing line would need a little thought, because some articles aren't meant to be serious anyway, but it could be a good idea if done properly. –SuspectedReplicant retire me 11:49, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
*ahem* - π 13:11, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
We use what Nx did well on pages such as side-by-sides, where the "references" in the original are linked to one footer, and our refs are linked to another. The only issue I have with this is that we are small, there aren't many places where we need it, and it makes life even harder for new editors. As far as the jokey link? Click on the up-arrow and you're right back where you were again. PS, I find Nx's dismissive replies to be rather rude. I ask questions in complete sentences and all I get is a brush off? I know Nx is our tech guru and all, but this isn't a tech issue, it's potentially a wiki-wide one. ħumanUser talk:Human 12:00, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

Can we stop it from giving the inline refs as [footnote n]? It's quite clunky and space-consuming. On BN I made the group "№", but that seems inelegant and I suspect will create issues with browsers without full character sets. Harmonic drug Phantom! 12:45, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

Yes. -- Nx / talk 12:59, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
If you want two cents from me, I sort of agree with SuspectedReplicant's explanation. On larger articles it's quite odd to have everything thrown together and quite annoying when you expect a link and get some snarky aside. On smaller articles, then "footnotes" is fine, it throws things together brilliantly and it doesn't particularly matter. As articles grow, however, they tend to get slightly more serious (or at least require a more thorough treatment of the claims and counter claims made), and that's where a split between "footnotes" and "references" is useful, and I agree that that is a good way of dealing with it. However, rather than split it, what I've done in the past is to take "witty" asides or jokes out of the footnotes and put them into brackets or between dashes, inline. That way you get to read it, without having to do any clicking and without it making it look like we've referenced a statement when we actually haven't - which is one of the main objections I have to doing joke asides in our larger or more serious articles. If they are actual references or extended clarifications (that wouldn't work inline), then I'd leave them in the footnotes section. Scarlet A.pngpostate 13:13, 7 February 2010 (UTC)


Hello Nx. How are things? Lord Goonie Hooray! I'm helping! 18:18, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

WIGOs:The saga continues[edit]

Can you do your magic on this? - π 01:58, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

Mark as patrolled[edit]

Why do I not get this option when I check changes in the fossil record? Any ideas? Much thanks in advance. The Spikey Punk I'm punking my punk! 05:55, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

Never mind, I figured it out. Sorry for bothering you with such a silly question. The Goonie 1 What's this button do? Uh oh.... 06:07, 9 February 2010 (UTC)


I have been patrolling edits like you said. -- =w= 16:41, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

Mei is useful, as always. Thank you. -- Nx / talk 16:43, 16 February 2010 (UTC)
Thank you. ^_______^ I used to do it quite a lot because it said to in the sysop guide. Then I stopped because no one else was. It's a useful thing though, so I will keep clicking. -- =w= 16:46, 16 February 2010 (UTC)
Hi Nx, it looks like your archive links got vaped somewhere along the way so I stuck the "talkpage" template back up at the top. ħumanUser talk:Human 16:48, 16 February 2010 (UTC)
I'll have you know I was obsessive-compulsively patrolling edits before either of you even joined. Why do all of my ideas only become popular after I've left? Star of David.png Radioactive afikomen Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments. 12:01, 17 February 2010 (UTC)


I have been patrolling edits like you said. -- =w= 16:41, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

Mei is useful, as always. Thank you. -- Nx / talk 16:43, 16 February 2010 (UTC)
Thank you. ^_______^ I used to do it quite a lot because it said to in the sysop guide. Then I stopped because no one else was. It's a useful thing though, so I will keep clicking. -- =w= 16:46, 16 February 2010 (UTC)
Hi Nx, it looks like your archive links got vaped somewhere along the way so I stuck the "talkpage" template back up at the top. ħumanUser talk:Human 16:48, 16 February 2010 (UTC)
I'll have you know I was obsessive-compulsively patrolling edits before either of you even joined. Why do all of my ideas only become popular after I've left? Star of David.png Radioactive afikomen Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments. 12:01, 17 February 2010 (UTC)