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Brain Cycle Helmet.gif The Technical Brainstar
I, Genghis Khant, hereby award you this Technical Brainstar, in recognition of your recent contributions.
Thanks! -- Nx talk 13:45, 21 February 2009 (EST)
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Greetings, Nx, and welcome to the cheery house of cellulites! Thank you for joining us. If you have any questions feel free to ask me, or just read the newcomers' guide. Star of David.png Radioactive afikomen Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments. 13:22, 29 December 2008 (EST)

My cat is an agent of destiny[edit]

My sincere apologies, Nx, but it seems that while my cat was stepping on my keyboard, you were demoted. (It's true! See?) I suppose I have no choice but to give your bucket, mop, and instruction manual—who am I to question the will of the feline?

If you have any questions, just drop by my or another sysop's talk page. No really, please drop by. I'm lonely here... Star of David.png Radioactive afikomen Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments. 20:02, 4 January 2009 (EST)

Thanks :) -- Nx talk 20:08, 4 January 2009 (EST)
Congrats! Don't worry, it's not so bad.-caius (spy) 20:09, 4 January 2009 (EST)
(edit conflict) Your welcome! Star of David.png Radioactive afikomen Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments. 20:10, 4 January 2009 (EST)
Sorry Nx, but I too, have a cat. Who stepped on the keyboard and blocked you. --"ConservapediaUndergroundResistorfeline fanatic 20:12, 4 January 2009 (EST)


Could you fix the linked image trick for Firefox 2? Jeeves got angry at me and I had to revert to HTML. Evil word Phantom! 16:20, 26 January 2009 (EST)

Working on it. -- Nx talk 16:22, 26 January 2009 (EST)

Wikipedia template[edit]

The {{wp}} template is more intended for snarky articles, I think. Normally recommend {{wpa}} (See the Wikipedia article on [[wp:{{{1}}}|{{{1}}}]].) in the "See also" section. Toast s.png (Toast) and marmalade 07:11, 1 February 2009 (EST)

No need to undo 'em all!Toast s.png (Toast) and marmalade 07:21, 1 February 2009 (EST)
Just Biochemistry, I think it and {{cp}} should stay on Astronomy -- Nx talk 07:22, 1 February 2009 (EST)

CustomBlockReasons not working[edit]

Nx, I blocked you because the CustomBlockReasons stopped working once the server switch was made. --"ConservapediaUndergroundResistorfeline fanatic 16:27, 8 January 2009 (EST)

I'll look into it. It was working for me yesterday. -- Nx talk 16:31, 8 January 2009 (EST)


I want to learn Java. I want to actually do something around here. Please teach me Java. --"ConservapediaUndergroundResistorfeline fanatic 17:21, 27 January 2009 (EST)

Don't you cause enough trouble as it is? TheoryOfPractice 17:29, 27 January 2009 (EST)
Fresh start remember? And that's the point. I want to help. --"ConservapediaUndergroundResistorfeline fanatic 17:32, 27 January 2009 (EST)
Programming is not learned through an apprenticeship, pick up a few books, get a hold of a good compiler and editor and start saying hello world. tmtoulouse 17:33, 27 January 2009 (EST)

(ECx3 argh) First lesson: It's Javascript, not Java. The two are completely unrelated, except some marketing guru at Sun decided to rename Livescript to Javascript because Java was the language of the future back then [1]. Second, you can help without knowing Javascript. Third, if you want to learn javascript, I recommend reading some tutorials. And fourth, you can wreck the site with javascript, which is why normally only sysops are allowed to edit the sitewide js file, so please only edit your own -- Nx talk 17:36, 27 January 2009 (EST)

Well, as per my own name, I do know a bit of JAVA. I would reccomend that you get Netbeans from this website, and get a good book (Java for Dummies is the one I use). If you want me to, I can share some code snippits, but seeing as to how I have only taken one semster ofJava, my abilities are limited. ĵ₳¥ášÇ♠ʘ No comment
Actually, I've never written a line of Java, I'll have to learn it this semester though -- Nx talk 17:46, 27 January 2009 (EST)
Different programming languages are just different syntax, the trick to programming is learning how to see how a particular problem or action could be implemented algorithmically. After that all you need to do is ask "how do I format a for loop and define a variable in X" and you are good to go. The only languages I have worked in that violate this basic rule (other than those that were designed to do so, for more on this check out esoteric programming languages) are assembly and fucking PL/1 god I hated PL/1. tmtoulouse 17:50, 27 January 2009 (EST)
Example programs I do know, using the "Hello World" format.

Visual Basic[edit]

Label1.caption = "Hello, World!"




Public class HelloWorld
       public static void main(String args[] throws Exception)
          System.out.println("Hello World!");


(write another file) 
<<>>= <-- Thats the file name
hello_world :- write('Hello World!').

Why the hell I know all these languages is beyond me...

ĵ₳¥ášÇ♠ʘ No comment

To follow on from Nx above - if you want to learn Javascript to fiddle with Wikis, the best approach may be to do a local installation of MediaWiki and practice on that. That way it is a) quicker and b) less likely to kill RW :) Javascript is actually not the hard bit - it's quite a straightforward language, but understanding the princples behind good coding and the DOM etc. may take more time :) Worm (t | c) 06:37, 28 January 2009 (EST)
I usually just save the page in question, copypaste the contents of the various css and js files and then edit it locally, since I'm too lazy to install mediawiki. -- Nx talk 06:44, 28 January 2009 (EST)
For simple stuff I sometimes do that, but installing MediaWiki gives me the chance to run WormWiki and inflate my ego. The fact that it's full of 8 billion revisions of me failing to get something working in monobook.js is besides the point... ;) And going through an install of MediaWiki is a good learning exercise in itself. Mind you, I have a Linux box to work with. I'm sure that in theory it's relatively straighforward in XP to do a quick xampp install and get MW running (I've done it with WordPress without any hassle), but I've never tried it with MW. Oh project! why do I do this to myself??.... Worm (t | c) 07:26, 28 January 2009 (EST)
LOL, I just checked and Ubuntu has mediawiki in its repositories, so it's just sudo apt-get install mediawiki for me :) -- Nx talk 07:43, 28 January 2009 (EST)
Indeed, same for me. If you get URL redirects working, then let me know how, because I can't seem to sort it out. (ie. http://host/wiki/Page_Name as opposed to http://host/wiki/index.php/Page_Name) - I understand the theory, I just never sem to manage to actually get it working :) Worm (t | c) 08:05, 28 January 2009 (EST)
Better ask Trent, I'm not planning to start my own wiki -- Nx talk 08:10, 28 January 2009 (EST)
Finally managed to get it sorted myself. Hurrah! Worm (t | c) 17:35, 28 January 2009 (EST)

Why am I not a sysop[edit]

Erm, because I asked to be de-sysoped when I Left And Never Came Back a few weeks ago. This leaves me in the rather odd position that, while I'm not a sysop, one of my sockpuppets is. Totnesmartin 06:19, 5 February 2009 (EST)

But you're obviously back. -- Nx talk 06:21, 5 February 2009 (EST)
Leaving and never coming back is used in the ironic sense. Everybody comes back. Jinx, for instance, is back. TK famously. Peter Mandelson. Dirty Den. Henry Grimes. Jean Grey. They all come back in the end. Except Jesus of course. Totnesmartin 06:31, 5 February 2009 (EST)
Yes, I know we have an article about that -- Nx talk 06:33, 5 February 2009 (EST)

Designifier js[edit]

Hey Nx, regarding this edit, why does it no longer work? For some reason, now I see some of CUR's sigs in full and some abbreviated. And they are still irritating as hell, I liked it better when they all "collapsed" as soon as a page was finished loading... ħumanUser talk:Human 19:07, 7 February 2009 (EST)

I recently changed my sig. Some of the sigs are still there. Some aren't. And now you can mosy over to my user page and see the sig in all its glory at the top of the page. Hooray! --"CURtalk 19:09, 7 February 2009 (EST)
As CUR said, he changed the sig template, and the old code didn't work. I wrote a new piece of code that works on the new sig, it's in User:Nx/Scripts/Curse.js, and you can import it (see User:Nx/Scripts). However, CUR then changed the sig in his preferences to this one, so you'll only be seeing the long one for a short while before it gets archived. I've disabled the new script, but if it's really bothering you, you can copy it and uncomment the addonloadhook line -- Nx talk 05:05, 8 February 2009 (EST)
Never mind, the old code didn't work because he added a newline accidentally, which I removed, so the old code now works again. The new script is a bit more flexible though, it will change the sig if there's a font tag anywhere in it. -- Nx talk 05:30, 8 February 2009 (EST)
Thanks! ħumanUser talk:Human 11:49, 8 February 2009 (EST)


Nx, would you be able to and be willing to cook up a 'stealbot' to steal templates, images, entire articles, and text, etc. from other wikis? This would give us unlimited access to the brilliant templates being cooked up at WP. --"CURtalk 16:18, 13 February 2009 (EST)

Short answer: no
Long answer: 1. I've never written a wikibot before. 2. If you want to "steal" a lot of stuff from wikipedia, maybe you should stop for a moment and consider what this site is and is not. What's the point of copying whole wikipedia articles? It's technically legal, but morally wrong, IMHO, and pointless, as RW is not WP's competitor. 3. I don't think it's worth investing a lot of time into writing a wikibot to do something that could be done manually in a fraction of that time. Unless you can convince me we need hundreds of images and templates from wikipedia, that is. -- Nx talk 16:36, 13 February 2009 (EST)
Actually, due to the GFDL, it's perfectly OK to do. But, as Nx points out, it's also pointless. ħumanUser talk:Human 17:15, 13 February 2009 (EST)
Yes, it's legal, but IMHO it's not Ok to copy hundreds of wikipedia articles to artificially boost RW's article count, unless, of course, we change our mission to be a wikipedia backup wiki... -- Nx talk 17:26, 13 February 2009 (EST)


Would it be possible to add the smileys to the edittools (that block below the edit window)? I know it could be done by simply editing them in individually, but optionally (so that you could opt in to it) and automagically so that new ones would be added as they were catted? ToastToastand marmite 22:44, 20 February 2009 (EST)

One solution not requiring js would be this (it's not opt in, but it's automagic). With js, I could make this actually work and make it optional. Or I could make "Smileys:" into a link that toggles them like the toolbar button does. -- Nx talk 04:29, 21 February 2009 (EST)


Cool stuff on the mainpage. Well done that man.--Bobbing up 13:21, 22 February 2009 (EST)

Just copying from WP, nothing special. Glad to help. -- Nx talk 13:34, 22 February 2009 (EST)

Script list[edit]

I think it's time we started a list of these little tricks you've been building. At RationalWiki:Scripts or RW:Help/scripts? ħumanUser talk:Human 19:55, 25 February 2009 (EST)

Well, there's this list, but it doesn't look like a lot of people know about it (maybe I should put a more prominent link on my userpage or one in my sig) -- Nx talk 04:03, 26 February 2009 (EST)
I've copied it to Help:Scripts. What does it need adding to appear on the nav box or is it manual? )Could do with instructions on thatt in Help:Contents - the old instructions are at the foot. ToastToastand marmite 04:19, 26 February 2009 (EST)
Manual, unfortunately (I've changed the instructions). Without a newer version of the DPL extension, I can't make it work as I'd like to. -- Nx talk 04:31, 26 February 2009 (EST)
Mind if I have a go? ToastToastand marmite 04:33, 26 February 2009 (EST)
Can do it but it requires more input from editor than current manual way. Shan't bother. ToastToastand marmite 21:21, 26 February 2009 (EST)
Be my guest. BTW, about the #Smileybox, how'd you like the alternative version to look/work? -- Nx talk 04:36, 26 February 2009 (EST)
Up to you. Don't know what anyone else will think about it though. (AFK for a while) ToastToastand marmite 04:43, 26 February 2009 (EST)


Congrats, Nx—you're a bureaucrat now! Now go crazy and sysop some people! Star of David.png Radioactive afikomen Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments. 21:12, 26 February 2009 (EST)

Isn't that a bit too hasty? --"C, U Rthe cheery, murdering cellulite. 21:19, 26 February 2009 (EST)
Don't disagree with this particular demotion but I think there ought to be discussion in future before 'cratting people - it's a major demotion, much more than sysoppery. ToastToastand marmite 21:23, 26 February 2009 (EST)
Yes, which is why I am now worrying a bit about myself. I do not wish to be demoted by RA in a few monthes. But then I could promote myself back to sysop, so it really wouldn't matter. --"C, U Rthe cheery, murdering cellulite. 21:25, 26 February 2009 (EST)
I only bureaucratize productive editors, so have no fear of being so demoted, CUR. Star of David.png Radioactive afikomen Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments. 22:01, 26 February 2009 (EST)
I am inclined to agree with you, Toast, that bureaucratization should be discussed beforehand. Star of David.png Radioactive afikomen Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments. 22:04, 26 February 2009 (EST)

Thanks RA, and I swear I will not promote CUR to editor (that's the bureaucrat oath, right? ;) ) -- Nx talk 09:21, 27 February 2009 (EST)

I think Nx is a wonderfully productive person and a real asset to the site. If given a good reason for a change in his status I would certainly support it. But I also think that we should consider this sort of thing first. At the moment it's down to the decision of the most liberal/drunk/power-crazy/whatever crat.--Bobbing up 11:56, 27 February 2009 (EST)
the 'cratting was discussed a few days ago on BoB M's talk page. Seems to have been a decision against cratting. What changed? Did he try my trick of offering free beer? Totnesmartin 12:44, 27 February 2009 (EST)
Essentially, yes, though my motivation wasn't to get cratted. -- Nx talk 01:30, 28 February 2009 (EST)
Whatever, I'm sure you'll be mostly harmless. ħumanUser talk:Human 01:36, 28 February 2009 (EST)

Scripting question[edit]

Would it be possible to import scripts from WP? They have some very useful ones there. Evil word Phantom! 06:56, 1 March 2009 (EST)

Yes, but unfortunately our MW version is old, so the api is missing a few things, and this also has to be fixed for some scripts -- Nx talk 07:02, 1 March 2009 (EST)
Try annoying Trent until he fixes it. Evil word Phantom! 07:53, 1 March 2009 (EST)
That's what I'm doing right now :) -- Nx talk 07:54, 1 March 2009 (EST)
But he's at a conference until Monday. Evil word Phantom! 07:57, 1 March 2009 (EST)
I know. I only posted on the tech support page, I didn't send him emails. -- Nx talk 08:01, 1 March 2009 (EST)
I have some vague recollection of Trent asking a few months back if anybody thought it would be worthwhile to upgrade to a new MW version, he didn't get much feedback and I think the idea was dropped. This was some time before the server move.--Bobbing up 08:39, 1 March 2009 (EST)
If he wants to upgrade, then great (I know at least two things that could be improved), but it's not that important. -- Nx talk 09:24, 1 March 2009 (EST)
I think it was the fact that a lot of things (extensions & such) would need upgrading @ the same time, and being loath to do too much at once. When he's back I imagine he'll give it a go if asked nicely. ToastToastand marmite 09:29, 1 March 2009 (EST)


It would appear that RA's left us and Weaseloid in charge. Evil word Phantom! 10:29, 2 March 2009 (EST)

Yes, I've just finished reading up on the whole drama. I hate timezones. -- Nx talk 10:31, 2 March 2009 (EST)
I'm not in charge of nothing. I haven't bothered with RWW for a while now; not sure if & when I'll return. ŴêâŝêîôîďWeaselly.jpgMethinks it is a Weasel 11:17, 2 March 2009 (EST)

Would you be so kind as to give 217.171.129.nn janitor and police abilities (I seem to have overlooked them during the reshuffling)? Oh, and MrFish needs police powers, too. There's a really persistent IP spamming the site, and the site needs a police person to stop them. Star of David.png Radioactive afikomen Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments. 01:22, 5 March 2009 (EST)

Sorry, I was offline. Looks like the IP spamming just became a much bigger problem. --  Nx/talk  02:00, 5 March 2009 (EST)
Thank you, Nx. Star of David.png Radioactive afikomen Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments. 02:03, 5 March 2009 (EST)


'Mostly harmless'??? If only you knew.... EddyP 15:35, 5 March 2009 (EST)

We can't leave him out of all the fun. --  Nx/talk  15:37, 5 March 2009 (EST)


Hey, thanks for all your help on that.... one more thing... It seems we are getting a random comma. I have traced it back to the "listseparators =,¶File:%TITLE%" part of the coding, but I don't know how to get rid of the comma without borking the whole thing.... Any help you can lend would be greatly appreciated. Thanks SirChuckBEl...ipses are Cool... 15:43, 5 March 2009 (EST)

I'll take a look, just a moment. --  Nx/talk  15:44, 5 March 2009 (EST)
According to the dpl manual, it's format=Startall,Start,End,Endall (format is equivalent to listseparators), and the correct syntax should be listseparators=,¶[[Image:%TITLE%|150px|thumb|Gentlemen, I will {{verb}} your precious {{noun}}, enabling me to destroy Atheism on the internet. You should all be {{gerund}} over our new operation]],, but that just inserts two commas, so I tried removing them both and it worked. The documentation sucks anyway. --  Nx/talk  15:54, 5 March 2009 (EST)
Thank you.... I think that can only be rewarding in one way.
Nx, In recognition of the hot blond you sent to my room, you are herby promoted to the rank of


By earning this promotion, you will be given no new rights per se, but you should know that your ability to swim and eat live fish will now increase tenfold, and you will always look fabulous in a tuxedo. Should you continue on your meteoric rise here on Rationalwiki, you may be awarded the highest possible honor, that of Penguin Knight. Good luck to you. For more information on rights and responsibilities, please see here

Thanks :) --  Nx/talk  16:05, 5 March 2009 (EST)


I like that. Thank you. User:Mei 04:19, 7 March 2009 (EST)

XML formatting[edit]

I see we are having problems with pages being well formed, any chance you would be willing to converse about this over e-mail as I am far more likely to follow through on things sitting in my inbox? tmtoulouse 15:53, 9 March 2009 (EDT)

Are you planning to help with the problems at RWW? Evil word Phantom! 15:56, 9 March 2009 (EDT)
Email sent. Good to see you back. --  Nx/talk  16:20, 9 March 2009 (EDT)

Script request[edit]

Could you create a script that adds a "manage rights" link somewhere on a user's page, rather than having to go to Special:Userrights and typing the name in manually? Evil word Phantom! 16:05, 9 March 2009 (EDT)

Should be pretty simple, but I'm busy with other stuff right now. I'll get to it as soon as I can --  Nx/talk  16:20, 9 March 2009 (EDT)
Unfortunately, no can do. This link won't work, although on RWW it will, so it's either a config setting or a new feature added in 1.12. But user scripts are disabled on RWW, so I can't do it there either. --  Nx/talk  19:14, 9 March 2009 (EDT)


Stop being a bot. That's cheating. Mei 19:42, 10 March 2009 (EDT)

Sorry, didn't mean to. Forgot to switch. --  Nx/talk  19:43, 10 March 2009 (EDT)
No it's ok. It's kindof fun. Mei 19:43, 10 March 2009 (EDT)


You started it. Mei 19:53, 10 March 2009 (EDT)

What does your .js do? Mei is useful 23:03, 10 March 2009 (EDT)
The one I'm working on? It edits pages. (That's not as simple as it sounds) --  Nx/talk  23:07, 10 March 2009 (EDT)


May I be nosy an enquire what NXbot does? - User 23:08, 10 March 2009 (EDT)

It's a meatbot, now augmented with javascript-driven editing. --  Nx/talk  23:09, 10 March 2009 (EDT)
So it is not an autonomous bot then? - User 23:11, 10 March 2009 (EDT)
No, it's just me, doing some stuff that would clog recent changes. --  Nx/talk  23:13, 10 March 2009 (EDT)
Think you ought to deBot before doing reversions, though. ToastToastand marmite 05:03, 11 March 2009 (EDT)
Sorry, I forgot to switch --  Nx/talk  07:13, 11 March 2009 (EDT)


I'll get you a sprite. Mei is useful 01:50, 11 March 2009 (EDT)


Thanks for cleaning up after me, Nx. Star of David.png Radioactive afikomen Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments. 03:43, 12 March 2009 (EDT)

By the way, that thing you do to remove special pages from Wantedpages is pretty nifty. I wasn't aware of such an easy method. Star of David.png Radioactive afikomen Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments. 03:43, 12 March 2009 (EDT)

You're welcome, but why did you change it back to the fakeil template? --  Nx/talk  03:47, 12 March 2009 (EDT)
On the other hand, it's just a bug in RW, not the proper way to do it. --  Nx/talk  03:52, 12 March 2009 (EDT)
I changed it back because adding the "/" turned the links blue, when they were intended to be red. Clicking "Undo" and correcting my original mistake was more expedient than anything else that occurred to me at the time, so back to fakeil it was. Star of David.png Radioactive afikomen Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments. 04:11, 12 March 2009 (EDT)
By the way, I am thoroughly pooped now. (Doing this proved to be quite draining.) Star of David.png Radioactive afikomen Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments. 04:12, 12 March 2009 (EDT)

I'm amazed that it took you only five minutes to do this. Are you magic or do you have one of those auto-editor thingies I occasionally hear about? Star of David.png Radioactive afikomen Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments. 04:56, 12 March 2009 (EDT)

No, it was 30 seconds to write the new code (based on this), 3 minutes to realize that all the lines are the same and the rest was just copy pasting :) --  Nx/talk  04:59, 12 March 2009 (EDT)

the title[edit]

I have fixed it but I wish I had a real sig. Mei is useful 05:35, 14 March 2009 (EDT)

Real sig? And thanks for fixing it. --  Nx/talk  05:36, 14 March 2009 (EDT)
I assume she means like ours; fancy, and involving piles of code. Evil word Phantom! 05:42, 14 March 2009 (EDT)
yeh something like that. Nx I got you that sprite.
450px-Bottle of Sprite.jpg
Mei is useful 05:47, 14 March 2009 (EDT)
Phantom Hoover you are showing off. Mei is useful 05:49, 14 March 2009 (EDT)
In the decadence of my sig? There is a help page on the topic. Evil word Phantom! 05:51, 14 March 2009 (EDT)
(EC) Thanks :) What's stopping you from making a fancy sig? (just please, no font enlargements) --  Nx/talk  05:51, 14 March 2009 (EDT)
This might be of interest. --  Nx/talk  05:52, 14 March 2009 (EDT)
Someone should add imagelinks to that page. Evil word Phantom! 06:21, 14 March 2009 (EDT)
TBH, I don't want it to be used too much, because it's a hack. That's why I didn't add it to the template list. --  Nx/talk  06:23, 14 March 2009 (EDT)
TBH? Anyway, what makes it a hack? It works fine. Evil word Phantom! 07:11, 14 March 2009 (EDT)
TBH = to be honest. I only got it when I read your confusion. Mei is useful 07:15, 14 March 2009 (EDT)
It's a hack because... it's a hack. It should be an img tag with a href attribute, but we can't do that. --  Nx/talk  07:26, 14 March 2009 (EDT)
Imagelinks = awesome. Can I make my sig just that picture of sprite? That would be cool. Mei is useful 07:38, 14 March 2009 (EDT)
Yes, you can. Evil word Phantom! 08:30, 14 March 2009 (EDT)

← You can, but putting your name in there too would be nice. In which case there's no need for the sprite to use imagelink. --  Nx/talk  08:33, 14 March 2009 (EDT)

"proud to be european"[edit]

Can I ask where "European" means? I'm french-Vietnamese by marriage. Not that I can even manage to say my own last name correctly yet. heh--Sun mowse.pngEn attendant Godot"«Curiosity is insubordination in its purest form. V.Nabokov» 15:25, 14 March 2009 (EDT)

RationalWikiWiki has some revealing information about me, courtesy of Phantom Hoover's detective work. --  Nx/talk  15:27, 14 March 2009 (EDT)
You gave me the link to the email form when I made NxBot for you; I couldn't help but check your userpage while I was there. Evil word Phantom! 15:54, 17 March 2009 (EDT)

You screwed up[edit]

Your reverting of my moves didn't exactly work. Look again at what you did. Fall down

Yeah, great. I bet you're pretty proud of yourself now asshole. --  Nx/talk  02:54, 18 March 2009 (EDT)

You a crat?[edit]

Can you re-crat/sysops me I don't feel like doing it manually. tmtoulouse 02:54, 18 March 2009 (EDT)

sure. --  Nx/talk  02:55, 18 March 2009 (EDT)
Thanks.....come talk to me in your e-mail inbox assuming it has arrived...hopefully before I go to bed and get distracted by life. :). tmtoulouse 03:14, 18 March 2009 (EDT)


There really might only be three or so - due to permissions issues, we usually just link to them. ħumanUser talk:Human 16:56, 18 March 2009 (EDT)

Ok, but I wasn't the one who started the categorization, I just wikilinked the category on the chalkboard. --  Nx/talk  17:36, 18 March 2009 (EDT)
Wave.gif ĵ₳¥ášÇ♠ʘ No comment 17:41, 18 March 2009 (EDT)

I'm flying[edit]

The user is in the vandal group yet managed to do 5 or six pagemoves. Is page moving not covered by the 2 edits an hour limitation? Taytopacket 16:08, 26 March 2009 (EDT)

The vandal bin is broken unfortunately. --  Nx/talk  16:11, 26 March 2009 (EDT)
Ah, I was relying on it a little. Hence the gentlest touch of the banhammer. Taytopacket 16:13, 26 March 2009 (EDT)
Go ahead and block for now. We are not too far from the upgrade anyway so no use investing too much effort into figuring out whats going wrong. Once Nx's new version is installed we can unblock. 16:14, 26 March 2009 (EDT)
Btw, did you see my talk messages over at the seekrit place? --  Nx/talk  16:15, 26 March 2009 (EDT)
It is not exactly a seekrit just no one else really has a use for it :). And yes I did. I will take a closer look this weekend been busy with various duties at the University last few days. 16:48, 26 March 2009 (EDT)
Ok. --  Nx/talk  16:51, 26 March 2009 (EDT)


Hi Nx, do I have to say that I like your work? That should be obvious. Is rationalbeta your sandbox? The api.php seems to allow for more questions than the one currently used here at RW. Different versions of mediawiki? Or just some fine-tuning?

Have you any idea what's wrong with aSK's api.php? It would be easier to gather their data if it worked :-)

--larronsicut fur in nocte 15:59, 30 March 2009 (EDT)

RationalBeta is a test wiki for our upgrade to MediaWiki 1.14, it's running the latest and greatest MW release, so that's where the extra api functionality comes from. The list=activeusers stuff is actually an extension I wrote since I assumed you used editcount.php, and I ported that into an api extension (and a special page), but the rest is core MediaWiki.
From the aSK error page, it looks like an internal server error (HTTP 500), maybe PJR tried to disable api.php by removing the execute right from the file itself. --  Nx/talk  16:31, 30 March 2009 (EDT)
Ooh, will 1.14 get us that atrocious new "special pages" where I can never find anything? (And, yeah, 500 sure sound like a CHMOD mistake or omission) ħumanUser talk:Human 20:01, 30 March 2009 (EDT)
Actually, I like the grouping, but I use ctrl-f to find stuff I'm looking for anyway. --  Nx/talk  05:15, 31 March 2009 (EDT)
I thought chmod had 4 digits. Evil word Phantom! 05:55, 31 March 2009 (EDT)
500 is an HTTP error code, it means internal server error.--  Nx/talk  06:01, 31 March 2009 (EDT)


When does summer time come into effect, if at all, in Hungary? I was temporarily confused when I saw that your local time was the same as mine. Evil word Phantom! 05:33, 31 March 2009 (EDT)

Oops. It should be UTC+2, I haven't really figured out the #time parserfunc. --  Nx/talk  05:35, 31 March 2009 (EDT)
Hm, the wikipedia template I copied also has to be manually adjusted, I'll have to figure out something to automate it. --  Nx/talk  05:38, 31 March 2009 (EDT)
Ah, but what about the differences in when summer time starts? Evil word Phantom! 06:29, 31 March 2009 (EDT)
I'll just have to manually adjust it, like the time offset in preferences --  Nx/talk  06:43, 31 March 2009 (EDT)

New version of the vandal brake[edit]

Under what circumstances can it be installed here? Evil word Phantom! 08:10, 31 March 2009 (EDT)

I tried it on RationalWikiWiki (MW1.12), and it had some glitches, so with some minor alterations it would probably work. But there's no point fixing it for MW1.11 since we're going to upgrade anyway. --  Nx/talk  11:59, 31 March 2009 (EDT)

Bufferedreader Vs. Scanner[edit]

The reason a scanner is better than a reader is due to the flexibility of the Scanner vs. the reader. A scanner can have methods called (such as sc.hasNextDouble, or sc.substring(0, 4)) that allows you to control the input. At the same time. the HasNext method can be used to scan ONLY a string, allowing you to deal directly with a string, or ONLY ints, while a reader needs to utilise the ParseInt or ParseDouble features.

In addition, a scanner object can control the size you read, so you can read, say, 5 pieces at a time. A reader reads line-by-line.

And that is the short list. ĵ₳¥ášÇ♠ʘ No comment 14:41, 1 April 2009 (EDT)

But if you merely want to read lines from a text file... --  Nx/talk  14:46, 1 April 2009 (EDT)

Vote extension[edit]

Hey Nx, what is all the breaking that happens when you try to add a vote tag as a IP? 06:15, 2 April 2009 (EDT)

I see nothing. Evil word Phantom! 06:21, 2 April 2009 (EDT)
What? Where? On Rationalbeta or here? --  Nx/talk  08:57, 2 April 2009 (EDT)
No problems here. What exactly do you mean by breaking? --  Nx/talk  09:14, 2 April 2009 (EDT)

New version of the intercom[edit]

How do you configure the groups on it? Evil word Phantom! 16:43, 17 April 2009 (EDT)

Never mind, worked it out for myself. Evil word Phantom! 16:47, 17 April 2009 (EDT)
You mean MediaWiki:Intercom-list? I'll add a link to it on Special:Intercom eventually. --  Nx/talk  17:53, 17 April 2009 (EDT)


While you're at it, can you make it so when comments are left at the AotW it shows up on recent changes? ħumanUser talk:Human 16:55, 17 April 2009 (EDT)

Yes. --  Nx/talk  17:05, 17 April 2009 (EDT)


See your PM at the RW forums--Ipatrol 20:21, 20 April 2009 (EDT)