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How 'bout them Jays? Nebuchadnezzar (talk) 03:48, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

Man, I miss my Expos come this time of year. Broke my heart. Also, I could never get into AL ball. The whole DH thing ruins it for me... Theory of Practice "Trampoline" is an Olympic sport now? 03:52, 5 August 2012 (UTC)
Being an Expos fan must have been brutal. I actually like that the AL has the DH rule while the NL doesn't -- it's a best of both worlds thing. The DH can make the game more exciting by replacing the automatic out at the bottom of the line-up. However, it takes some strategy out of the game in terms of managing the bench and bullpen. I don't see why the DH rule gets people so foaming at the mouth, other than the AL/NL rivalry aspect. Nebuchadnezzar (talk) 04:02, 5 August 2012 (UTC)
'81? Heartbreaking, but legit. '94? A kick in the crotch. Totally evil. 2004? An act of unmitigated greed and cruelty. Turned me off of pro sports for good. Theory of Practice "Trampoline" is an Olympic sport now? 04:07, 5 August 2012 (UTC)
It wasn't the fact that the entire league is shooting roids? Nebuchadnezzar (talk) 03:15, 18 August 2012 (UTC)
Meh. Theory of Practice "Trampoline" is an Olympic sport now? 03:24, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

'Lo there[edit]

I see you've welcomed me with a welcome template. Thanks. Also, I see you don't like me. That's unfortunate. I hope you will be wiser in the future, and see what a great guy I am. --KreJ (talk)

Sociology of science/STS[edit]

You've read the STS stuff, right? I've been thinking of doing an article for it, but most of what I've read in the field (outside of Kuhn and a bit of Latour) is really specialist stuff relating to my field. What say ye? Nebuchadnezzar (talk) 02:23, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

Send me an e-mail so I can attach a syllabus from a course I took a few years back in reply. Theory of Practice "Trampoline" is an Olympic sport now? 02:48, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
Sweetness. E-mail sent. Nebuchadnezzar (talk) 03:54, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
And replied. Theory of Practice "Trampoline" is an Olympic sport now? 03:55, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
This is somewhat unrelated, but how's that econ book, BTW? I might pick it up if it's decent because I'm a bit of an econo-hobbyist. Nebuchadnezzar (talk) 04:05, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

This is America[edit]

I looked outside. It looks like America to me. I also looked at the discussion thread, it's about U.S. politics, something you've demonstrated to know absolutely jackshit about. nobsCorporations are people, too 23:32, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

Learn to spell[edit]

Why do you keep putting commas all over the place and putting them randomly in the middle of sentences? (talk) 20:48, 16 August 2012 (UTC)

Example? Also, commas =/= "spelling." Theory of Practice "Trampoline" is an Olympic sport now? 21:44, 16 August 2012 (UTC)

Threat of violence[edit]

A threat of violence is completely unacceptable. I will not tolerate such behavior.Fdof (talk) 02:54, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

Humorless git. I hope you step on a lego piece. Theory of Practice "Trampoline" is an Olympic sport now? 03:01, 18 August 2012 (UTC)
If he does it again, Fdof, beat him senseless with a baseball bat. Sam Tally-ho! 02:58, 18 August 2012 (UTC)
Or a spanking? Please? I've been very naughty, and deserve a spanking. Theory of Practice "Trampoline" is an Olympic sport now? 03:01, 18 August 2012 (UTC)
This stops now, or I swear to God I will choke both of you with each other's severed dicks. DickTurpis (talk) 03:08, 18 August 2012 (UTC)
How do you know they are not a girl? --Green mowse.pngGodotIz a sekret Kristian 03:09, 18 August 2012 (UTC)
Did you say "severed dicks"? Theory of Practice "Trampoline" is an Olympic sport now? 03:10, 18 August 2012 (UTC)
Hey, joking about masochism is my schtick! Nebuchadnezzar (talk) 03:11, 18 August 2012 (UTC)
Just gave myself an idea for a new moniker, "Severe" Dick Turpis. DickTurpis (talk) 03:14, 18 August 2012 (UTC)
Minus the "turpis", sounds like the name of a punk band.--Green mowse.pngGodotIz a sekret Kristian 03:30, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

I don't need to accept threats of violence to have a sense of humor.Fdof (talk) 05:48, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

You're boring. Theory of Practice "Trampoline" is an Olympic sport now? 13:19, 18 August 2012 (UTC)


Hi there. I have promoted you temporarily, to head off the burgeoning wheel war. Please don't take it personally! I very much encourage you to make a good case and vote for Tisane's removal if you feel this strongly, and we can get the issue sorted out. And I know that you're probably aware that it doesn't work when someone just unilaterally decides to ban someone. Sorry about the trouble. Thanks!--ADtalkModerator 03:22, 26 August 2012 (UTC)

And here is a new mop. Works the same as the old mop. ТyBored 04:53, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
seriously--I cannot believe a bunch of educated, intelligent grown-ups are even having this discussion. Guy logs onto website to promote having sex with children. Said website reacts by suggesting that the wisest course of action should be putting that behavior to a vote. Absolutely unbelievable. We should be ashamed of ourselves. Theory of Practice Haters gonna hate. 04:56, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
His essay was deleted, and no one appears to be trying to get it back. The vote is, of course, whether or not this lapse in behavior necessitates a ban. If it's as straightforward as you make it, then the vote should very easily carry, right?--ADtalkModerator 05:02, 26 August 2012 (UTC)

It was his continuing arguing of the point on the relevant talk page--what I linked to in the Coop posting--that made it clear to me that vaping the essay did not end the issue. And the vote seems to be going pretty clearly in the direction I figured it would, as, in true Rationalwiki fashion, we are afraid to take a stand on simple community self-preservation against odious trolls. The fact that this is even considered a vote-worthy issue is nothing short of appalling to me. For chrissakes, he's advocating the decriminalization of one of the worst acts in the human repertoire, and we're too afraid of stepping on his "free speech" rights? Sick. Pathetic. Shameful. Theory of Practice Haters gonna hate. 05:07, 26 August 2012 (UTC)

Either it's self-evident that he should be banned (and everyone will agree with you and he will be voted out) or it's not, and most people don't find his essay/defense to be reason enough to ban him. In neither case do I see any benefit to letting you just decide by yourself who gets to stay. I encourage you to make a good case on the vote, though.--ADtalkModerator 05:13, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
I'm not going to vote in a vote we shouldn't be having. Fuck it, you want the pedo, you can have him. This is ridiculous. Theory of Practice Haters gonna hate. 05:28, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
What he said. Tisane and Abd join things they disagree with in the intent to ingratiate themselves and then destroy. The failure of site management to get rid of them with prejudice is a failing. Hipocrite (talk) 16:40, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
You are site management and I trust you're doing what you will. Nutty Roux100x100 anarchy symbol.svg 16:44, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
I am? Perhaps you're confusing me with someone else. Hipocrite (talk) 16:48, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
join things they disagree with in the intent to ingratiate themselves and then destroy. Wow. Deja vu. Those words could have been spoken by Andy Schlafly or TK. nobsCorporations are people, too 17:00, 27 August 2012 (UTC)

Welcome back[edit]

^ ТyBother me 12:49, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

Hi. Bye. usertalk 02:50, 20 October 2012 (UTC)
Are you LANCB just when Psy and I show up again? I read what you wrote and largely agree with you. Stick with me kid. Stick with me, and together, we'll make this town safe again. Theory of Practice Haters gonna hate. 02:52, 20 October 2012 (UTC)
I'm trying, I really am. usertalk 02:54, 20 October 2012 (UTC)
  • I noticed your earlier edits but neglected to welcome you back. Time to do so: WELCOME. --Abd (talk) 17:18, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

User-space redirects[edit]

Pardon me, but there are several broken and double redirects in your old user-spaces. I don't know protocal, but could you please take careof them sir or madame? :) Winter Whisper (talk) 02:39, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

Soon, my little Babuska. Soon. Theory of Practice Haters gonna hate. 02:44, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
Cpacибo Winter Whisper (talk) 02:46, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

Edit conflicts[edit]

I notice that you conflicted with WfG, have we discussed under construction/work in progress templates here before? Or was that at my corporate wiki? I've always though that a "get lost I'm doing something" template might be useful so long as it isn't left up for too long. I know I've been frustrated by doing something and finding someone makes a minor edit when I'm doing a major makeover. Redchuck.gif ГенгисevolvingModerator 16:14, 22 October 2012 (UTC)

That would be a fabulous idea--why not bring it up in the Bar?Theory of Practice Still tryin' to figure it all out. 16:33, 22 October 2012 (UTC)
{{WiP}}, {{WiP2}} (note the uppercase P) -- Nx / talk 18:05, 22 October 2012 (UTC)
Still, it might not be seen and it might be left up longer. The more idiot proof way to do a major overhaul would be to do it in a user subpage first. Scarlet A.pngpatheticModerator 23:16, 24 October 2012 (UTC)
Also, not to be too ummm petty here, most of my edits of late have been attempts to clean up crap that was inserted rather sloppily. some of ToP's work has been the same (he does lots of actual editing too). when we are sweeping up after some people, we both rush in at the same moment. :-) --Green mowse.pngGodotCalibrated! let the voting begin! 00:28, 25 October 2012 (UTC)


Who the hell put my name on the uranus page. I already know that pluto is not a planet, it is a dwarf planet in the kupiter belt at the edge of our solar system user:delphinidea.

It's not 'your' username. It's a trick to put the current user's username, whatever it is. Naughty, but weird. Scream!! (talk) 21:47, 24 October 2012 (UTC)


(referencing recent block) But philosophy is fun! And so is editing my wall-o-text. I am working on the whole kissing dating thing, but online dating seems to not work out so well. I'm trying, but the response rate is bad. And I hate bars - I don't drink, and I hate clubs with loud obnoxious music, and I probably wouldn't get along with anyone who does that anyway. So, lots of people have suggested I join an activity group or something, but I find most to be so mind numbingly boring that I can't stand it for the relatively small chance to find a girl who might like me. The biggest problem probably is that I don't make friends, and I find most standard parties and the small talk to be excruciating. Meh, I do recognize that it is all my fault. I just wish there were easier ways to meet women who 1- don't mind that I don't have a lot of friends and that we don't have any common friends, and 2- don't like clubbing, drinking, traveling, or lots of outdoorsy stuff, and 3- can enjoy fun (pseudo?)-deep science and philosophical conversations and gaming. -- Sorry, but you asked for the rant via the block! ~smile~ LiberalOfAnUnknownVariant (talk) 07:39, 30 October 2012 (UTC)

vandal brake[edit]

For some reason I thought the vandal brake hasn't been working lately. I just binned you, to see if it works. Feel free to test it, or parole yourself. Sprocket J Cogswell (talk) 16:20, 3 November 2012 (UTC)

It works. Theory of Practice Still tryin' to figure it all out. 16:28, 3 November 2012 (UTC)
OK Sprocket J Cogswell (talk) 16:29, 3 November 2012 (UTC)


I misspelled kiuper belt. — Unsigned, by: Delphinidea / talk / contribs

The Irish ain't white[edit]

Still crops up down here. Other "ethnic whites" include Eastern Europeans, the Spanish, Scotts, the Welsh, Italians, and the Portugese. Evil fascistoh noez 21:10, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

Yup. In Quebec, they used to tell the French-Canadians to "speak white." Theory of Practice Still tryin' to figure it all out. 21:17, 5 November 2012 (UTC)
Fun fact: 4.7% of Louisiana still speaks French at home. We still have a few bilingual schools.Evil fascistoh noez 21:21, 5 November 2012 (UTC)
I protest at the use of the term "French". I worked off shore with some cajun french speakers, and could not understand a word of french OR english from their mouths. :) Green mowse.pngGodotI hate waiting! 22:16, 5 November 2012 (UTC)
As an individual of Franco-Scottish extraction, I get accused of being "not white" surprisingly often, blue eyes notwithstanding. It is better now than it was for my father though, when he was living in the Mormon-dominated Utah-Idaho axis where most people assumed he was "Mexican" or "Iranian", both of which would be considered "white" by the federal government anyways but not by the U.S. population at large. The whole thing is so frustratingly arbitrary it's hard for me to understand where the supremacists are coming from. (edit conflict) @Godot: I grew up in a Missouri French speaking family. It took a decent amount of formal education for my French to be comprehensible by anybody. People still have problems understanding my English. — Unsigned, by: ORavenhurst / talkDo You Believe That? 22:22, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

"If someone on the Metro was really annoying me, I wouldn't try to annoy them back"[edit]

Ya fucking wimp. I'd smack them in the face with my rock hard penis and steal their newspaper. Acei9 02:41, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

Fist pound[edit]

It's about time somebody who cares more than I do about WIGO:CP calls out WIGO for some of their childish crap. It's all the de facto homophobia and Jr. High level rumormilling that drove me completely away from watching WIGO back in the day. If you are ever in Minneapolis, I owe you a beer. Reckless Noise Symphony (talk) 14:10, 27 November 2012 (UTC)

Echoing Gabe's sentiment. Evil fascistoh noez 14:14, 27 November 2012 (UTC)
If I'm ever in Minneapolis, I will probably need several beers. Theory of Practice Still tryin' to figure it all out. 14:37, 27 November 2012 (UTC)
And I will owe you several more than you can handle. Reckless Noise Symphony (talk) 14:39, 27 November 2012 (UTC)


I dunno if the CP stuff you're posting lately is meant to be seriously, but you're acting like a real idiot. And that's me saying it. rpeh •TCE 21:46, 27 November 2012 (UTC)

Show me where the idiocy is. Bunch of smart people carve out a space on the internet, create a foundation with noble values about truth and reason and creating a valuable resource for people confronted with various types of anti-science, irrationality and woo, get tax-exempt status for that foundation, and then spend an appreciable part of their time together making fag jokes about a mentally ill man posting on a completely irrelevant website. One guy asks some questions about that whole situation.. Theory of Practice Still tryin' to figure it all out. 21:50, 27 November 2012 (UTC)
YOU are the one claiming Ken is mentally ill. Most people are equivocal. Just... give it a rest for a bit. rpeh •TCE 21:52, 27 November 2012 (UTC)
Okay, let's take out the mentally ill bit. Ahem: A bunch of smart people carve out a space on the internet, create a foundation with noble values about truth and reason and creating a valuable resource for people confronted with various types of anti-science, irrationality and woo, get tax-exempt status for that foundation, and then spend an appreciable part of their time together making fag jokes about, or simply teasing, some completely un-noteworthy guy posting on a completely irrelevant website. One guy asks some questions about that whole situation... Theory of Practice Still tryin' to figure it all out. 21:57, 27 November 2012 (UTC)
Ken is a sysop on CP and is therefore a valid target. If he's ill his philosophy dictates that he is responsible for taking care of it. Somebody with an illness venturing out into the world and saying "Respectfully, I disagree" should be treated with full respect. Somebody acting like he acts can fuck off. rpeh •TCE 22:04, 27 November 2012 (UTC)
There's no doubt that CP is what brought most of us here and that it's CP that draws most new readers in. There's also little doubt, given the "Gentlemen!" shout outs, that at least some of User:Conservative's idiocy is performed for readers of this website. And while CP is a bastion of irrationality and base stupidity, given the extent to which a good amount of its pages views are driven by us, that its already insignificant and marginal status would become even more insignificant and marginal if we left it alone. There is also little doubt, in my mind anyway, that the good people of New Mexico did not grant an ostensibly educational not-for-profit foundation a tax-exempt status so that people could congregate to call a guy a fairy on a regular basis or to knowingly and willingly provoke him into saying stupid things--things that, unlike, say, the things said by many recent candidates for elected office in the U.S., or the advertising put out by woo-merchants trying to separate people from their money, are not worth refuting. Theory of Practice Still tryin' to figure it all out. 22:13, 27 November 2012 (UTC)
A person finds our sole mention in the world's most popular reference, Wikipedia. It says we're a vandal site. To confirm this, they check our most popular pages, where they see people fag-bashing. Weeks later, a user wonders why we don't get any new editors interested in writing articles, which is what the Foundation was created to promote in the first place.
Another user, under the mistaken impression that the URL up top reads "" instead of "" — and seemingly unaware that the website is now part of an incorporated entity with legal, financial, and social obligations — pops up to vigorously defend their right to bash fags, and furthermore that their fab-bashing should continue to be subsidized with other people's donations.
Meanwhile, the Foundation starts a new project as an alternative resource to the website itself, because they are so fucking embarrassed by the site's execrable community that they want as large a buffer as possible between the public and said community.
But it all totally balances out in the end! Users like Rpeh donate money to keep their shitty website afloat, which the Foundation that actually owns the website uses to subsidize projects that aren't an embarrassing turdpile. It's a racket! A lame, fag-bashing racket. Star of David.png Radioactive afikomen Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments. 22:48, 27 November 2012 (UTC)
Unfortunately, the problems in directing RW towards meeting Trent's (and the board's) vision go well beyond the CP-centrism. Redchuck.gif ГенгисOur ignorance is God; what we know is science.Moderator 23:43, 27 November 2012 (UTC)
Yes, but the immaturity displayed by much of the CONservapedia commentators really doesn't help. I once had a nuclear engineer from the GE-Hitachi nuclear project I was working on interested in coming and arguing with Abd about cold fusion. He showed up, took a quick look at the most used pages, saw WIGO talk:CP and was disgusted enough with the childishness there to walk away. I'm almost certain this is not a once-in-a-lifetime occurrence. True, the guy is also very conservative (in the American political sense). But I'd rather attract intelligent conservatives to shoot down what we can all agree is crankery than to attract immature anti-CONservapedians to sit and shit talk about what color underwear Ken Demyer claims to wear. Reckless Noise Symphony (talk) 03:42, 28 November 2012 (UTC)
I came during the Lenski affair. I guess i looked at CP, and said "hah ha, look at the funny". But it took all of a month before it was like same ol' same ol. What bugs me most, is how much it looks like bullies. "he he he look at the stupid man. god he's stupid. why he's so stupid he thinks he's smart". "I can post something mean!" It really bothers me that it's such a part of this place. especially now that CP is virtually nothing but some trolls and 5 or 10 "real" people. Green mowse.pngGodot She was a venus demilo in her sister's jeans 04:33, 28 November 2012 (UTC)
I don't get involved very in the CP affair, I did for a short while years ago but it gets nowhere. Still the foundation relies on educated people giving their time free. Giving them space to talk about CP if that interests them is something that helps the foundation keep its contributors, perhaps. Proxima Centauri (talk) 18:57, 28 November 2012 (UTC)

Blocking the hat[edit]

Add #p-logo a { background-image: url(http:// !important; } to your vector.css file. Humorless fascistsociopath 21:26, 28 November 2012 (UTC)

Frankfurt School and "Cultural Marxism"[edit]

Been seeing this conspiracy theory thrown around a bit lately (e.g. [1], [2], and Anders Behring Breivik loved it). Possible snarticle material? Nebuchadnezzar (talk) 00:15, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

"Frankfurt School"? You mean there's an entire college about weiners? Star of David.png Radioactive afikomen Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments. 00:24, 6 December 2012 (UTC)
The wieners crack isn't misplaced--I think there's something here closely tied to MRA folks/that anti-feminist article on Fox by Schlafly's cousin last week/the whole "white men as a persecuted group" thing. The two articles you linked to speak directly to that stuff. Theory of Practice Still tryin' to figure it all out. 00:35, 6 December 2012 (UTC)
Search fail. I just realized we have a page on the Frankfurt School that goes into this a bit, but it could use some expansion. Nebuchadnezzar (talk) 02:39, 6 December 2012 (UTC)
SPLC actually has a pretty extensive article. Nebuchadnezzar (talk) 01:45, 13 December 2012 (UTC)

Blocking stuff[edit]

Howdy! I was just looking over this whole discussion with Brasov. He's an idiot and pretty rude, of course, but please don't just block someone because you don't like them - especially not for several months. Lots of people are rude, frequently, and if that's selectively used as a reason to block people with whom we disagree, then it risks a bad cycle where blocking becomes an enforcement tool to win arguments. If you really think that someone is being so intolerably rude and that you need to protect people from their words, then start a vote. Sorry for the bother! I know how hard it is when it comes to dealing with schmucks like Brasov.--ADtalkModerator 09:28, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

This is the part where I say "I'm sorry" and promise, begrudgingly, to not do it again until the next time. Theory of Practice Still tryin' to figure it all out. 13:38, 6 December 2012 (UTC)
Hey, I know we've been through this routine with the whole "I like you and don't take this the wrong way," but still, please don't block obviously non-spambots with the block reason "spambot" to try and hide your tracks (or whatever the reason was). Pax vobis. Blue (pester) 16:54, 7 December 2012 (UTC)
You're right. One day we'll have a proper "no assholes at our party" rule. Theory of Practice Still tryin' to figure it all out. 17:02, 7 December 2012 (UTC)
But we like trolls (though we are NOT a troll site, i've been told, sighs). I don't get teh issue. they are both sysoped. I did one, and if they are nto both sysoped, i'll do the other. TOP please block me for 3 months! just cause this game of treating jackasses with more respect than we treat eachother is pretty petty.--Green mowse.pngGodot She was a venus demilo in her sister's jeans 17:05, 7 December 2012 (UTC)
But if we treat trolls and jackasses like every other site in the damn world treats trolls and jackasses, we'll turn into an aspie fascist dictatorship (that's just like CP!!!!) and our community will surely die. Blue (pester) 17:13, 7 December 2012 (UTC)
Good post! Humorless fascistsociopath 17:16, 7 December 2012 (UTC)
(EC)One day, one day. Also, I really think we should change the "How to handle vandalism" page. Humorless fascistsociopath 17:06, 7 December 2012 (UTC)
It won't ever happen, but i think we need a really long, long discussion about our goals, and how we handle vandals, jackasses, and trolls. but we won't, cause we love the trolls. We are an anarchist site. we are here to be different... or whatever. ;-) Green mowse.pngGodot She was a venus demilo in her sister's jeans 17:18, 7 December 2012 (UTC)
Define jackasses? If it means 'someone I don't like' then you have a problem. Acei9 19:42, 9 December 2012 (UTC)
Yeah, that'll happen. After we get filibustered with the antics of manchildren, voting on voting, kilobytes of personal attacks, and all that bullshit. Humorless fascistsociopath 17:24, 7 December 2012 (UTC)
Who are you referring to? Nutty Roux100x100 anarchy symbol.svg 05:06, 9 December 2012 (UTC)
How about hint, Ty? Acei9 19:39, 9 December 2012 (UTC)

It may be a joke to you...[edit]

But being wrong on the internet is serious bsns! >.>

In all honesty, not sure why I didn't catch that...personally I blame the late nights studying, but it could just be that my sense of humor is out of synch with this place... (talk) 03:42, 9 December 2012 (UTC)

Dirk Steele[edit]

There wasn't a unanimous decision to vandal brake DS, see here. Proxima Centauri (talk) 13:15, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

I don't care. Theory of Practice "Now we stand outcast and starving 'mid the wonders we have made." 14:50, 10 December 2012 (UTC)
Actually, PC, it was unanimous, with a "give him a bit more rope, first" caveat/postscript from the proposer, yours truly. Having set a hair trigger, I think a single wall of text was enough justification for someone to drop the hammer on this one. This way he won't be flooding recent changes, and can still have his say. Sprocket J Cogswell (talk) 16:21, 10 December 2012 (UTC)
  1. Sprocket J Cogswell asked to wait for further provocation at 18:02, 9 December 2012.
  2. ToP binned DS AT 18:02, 9 December 2012.
  3. Walls of text started appearing at intervals of half an hour or more on 10th December 2012.

I don't dispute the binning now, just it was done too early. Proxima Centauri (talk) 18:16, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

As always, the problem is that if someone comes along without prior experience of what a particular, ahem, "contributor" is like, then they'll assume it's a little too early or ask to wait for any extra provocation. Scarlet A.pngnarchistModerator 18:19, 10 December 2012 (UTC)
I couched my request in tentative terms, in an attempt to indicate that I would be content with preemptive binning. ToP took appropriate action, and I do firmly believe that dissecting or second-guessing such a fait accompli is a waste of keystrokes and screen time. Sprocket J Cogswell Talk to Sprocket 19:00, 10 December 2012 (UTC)
I am quite happy with the current situation which means I have to wait 30 minutes between posts. Obviously I have trouble with my whisky rants. Dirk Steele (talk) 19:13, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

Still don't care. Theory of Practice "Now we stand outcast and starving 'mid the wonders we have made." 19:28, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

Looks like we're all happy for things to stay as they are. Proxima Centauri (talk) 19:41, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

I did not start the discussion on Anatomical Brain Images. RachelW did and directed it at me. I responded but are now accused of spamming this site. Is that fair? What is the current situation? Ta. Dirk Steele (talk) 19:58, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

Actually I thought this was sort of funny. Doctor Dark (talk) 02:39, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

Mod nod[edit]

This is a courtesy call to let you know that someone has nominated you for moderator. Please go here to accept or reject the nomination. Cheers. Blue (pester) 09:59, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

When did you become such a horrible prick?[edit]

Seriously, I don't remember you being so callous before. You were always a bit over-emotional, but never callous. Perhaps the cruelty just comes more natural these days. There is a special place in hell reserved for the likes of you. Notmc (talk) 21:59, 16 December 2012 (UTC)

The last sentence seems like a leap from the previous ones. Nihilist 16:10, 17 December 2012 (UTC)


I find it difficult to understand intellectually how a supporter of Glaberman can reject Thomas Szasz Dirk Steele (talk) 15:49, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

I've never heard of Thomas Szasz. Therefore, it would be kind of hard for me to reject him. Theory of Practice "Now we stand outcast and starving 'mid the wonders we have made." 15:59, 17 December 2012 (UTC)
Well he is either this person or this Most of my arguments here are based on his work. He is worth a read although I do not recommend The Myth Of Mental Illness at first because it is steeped in its historical time. The Manufacture of Madness, Coercion Or Cure, and Ceremonial Chemistry are worth a look even if you eventually disagrre with him. Dirk Steele (talk) 16:43, 17 December 2012 (UTC)
I've got a lot on my plate, sweet cheeks. No promises. Hugs and kisses, Theory of Practice "Now we stand outcast and starving 'mid the wonders we have made." 16:44, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

Also, I wonder why you assume I would reject his ideas in the first place. Where have I made any arguments about mental health? Theory of Practice "Now we stand outcast and starving 'mid the wonders we have made." 16:46, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

You obviously demonstrate a love of authoritarian mobocracy. Might is right. You and I have very different concepts of liberty and anarchy. Dirk Steele (talk) 18:02, 17 December 2012 (UTC)
I think you need to do a better job a separating the way things play out on a marginal website and the actual politics of really-existing human beings.You know nothing about me, my politics, or what I love. Also, unsurprisingly, you failed to answer the actual question I posed, and instead dealt in wild conjecture. When you anwer the question about where I have made a statement on mental health, I will be glad to continue the conversation. Theory of Practice "Now we stand outcast and starving 'mid the wonders we have made." 18:21, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

This site reflects exactly the actual politics of 'really existing' human beings. You want to ban me from stating my ideas because you disagree with them and in the way I express them. Tough shit. Censor me. I do know about you only in as much you have expressed your opinion coming from Martin Glaberman. Your views about liberty conflict with mine. Dirk Steele (talk) 18:59, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

I do not know your views on mental health. I have been talking about your 'libertarian' ideas and your love of the banishment ritual as expoused by the magickal genius of Crowley. I you are a authoritarian anarchist. Might is right. This is not my definition of libertarianism.

"You want to ban me from stating my ideas because you disagree with them and in the way I express them." I have said this to you several time before, and I will say it one last time. I will say it in small words, in the hope that you will understand. I have no opinion on your ideas, because I do not know, and I do not care to know what your ideas are. I do not read your posts beyond ascertaining that they are irrelevant to ongoing discussions and seem like no more than attempts to derail conversations and force them to address the issues that you care about. I spend no time thinking about the content of your posts for the very reason that they are uninteresting and largely irrelevant to ongoing discussions. As for the ways in which you express them, well, if you are going to be rude, you can only expect people to be rude in return. I am done with you now. You are no longer welcome to post on my talk page. Thank you and good day. Theory of Practice "Now we stand outcast and starving 'mid the wonders we have made." 19:11, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

Merry Christmas[edit]

I have been looking for these for over 2 years now. And, as an early Christmas present, my wife delivers me issue 95 and 96 of Rolling Stone magazine 1971. The original issues that contained Fear and Loathing Las Vegas with Steadman illustration. The original guff...


I love this woman. Acei9 11:04, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

That is the coolest thing ever. Theory of Practice "Now we stand outcast and starving 'mid the wonders we have made." 13:16, 20 December 2012 (UTC)


Eyebrow.gif Humorless fascistsociopath 15:11, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

What could I do? He had a gun. Theory of Practice "Now we stand outcast and starving 'mid the wonders we have made." 15:38, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

On "Essay:A conspiracy theory on the origin of conspiracy theories"[edit]

Just one question: when you read the essay (which I originally titled under "Fun"), you didn't actually believe I really meant I was saying in there, did you? If not, I'm glad. If yes, Poe's Law is all over you. (I'm asking this because you said "Feel free to go nuts there" on my talk page and because the essays are a bit more serious than the fun pages.) Faunas (talk) 22:36, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

No, no, I didn't believe it was anything but a joke, but the whole tone of the thing read a lot like one guy's take on a topic, and not an article, per se. Prolly a better fit for essay space. Theory of Practice "Now we stand outcast and starving 'mid the wonders we have made." 22:46, 24 December 2012 (UTC)
Well, I'm glad, as promised. Also, Poe's Law is all over me! :) Faunas (talk) 23:25, 24 December 2012 (UTC)
Sounds kinda' gross. You may want to wash that off. Star of David.png Radioactive afikomen Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments. 00:04, 25 December 2012 (UTC)
Already did. BTW, what did you think of my essay? Faunas (talk) 19:08, 25 December 2012 (UTC)
It's okay. It very much falls on the zany side of the "zany snark versus deadpan snark" divide. Star of David.png Radioactive afikomen Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments. 00:34, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

Sterile for mod[edit]


Thank you for your delightful block[edit]

I'm so glad you blocked me for being a homo. The public must be protected from the Hominid Agenda. —Tom Morris (talk) 15:01, 30 December 2012 (UTC)

Damn straight. Theory of Practice "Now we stand outcast and starving 'mid the wonders we have made." 16:50, 30 December 2012 (UTC)

Is it a bird? Is it a plane?[edit]

No, it's.... TYPOMAN! You beat me to it, well done :-) JzG (talk) 22:37, 3 January 2013 (UTC)

Just doin' my job, ma'am. Theory of Practice "Now we stand outcast and starving 'mid the wonders we have made." 22:59, 3 January 2013 (UTC)
I cannot type worth a damn. I burned my left hand very badly when I was a toddler, it now moves at half the speed of my right, which makes for some awesomely shit typing. And can I check my own words for speliong misteaks? Can I 'eck as like. JzG (talk) 23:20, 3 January 2013 (UTC)
There are ways to type with one hand, or otherwise accommodate things like your hand. — Unsigned, by: An American Nihilist / talk / contribs 16:26, 14 January 2013 (UTC)


I removed the large chunk of stuff [3] because it was actually taken without attribution from Wikipedia [4].--Alpharius (talk) 16:21, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

Unitarian Universalism[edit]

Did you obtain a belief in God during your churching, or are you still qualified to join the UU non-theist association? Mjollnir.svgListenerXTalkerX 07:46, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

Well, I didn't join the church to explore non-belief in God. Theory of Practice "Now we stand outcast and starving 'mid the wonders we have made." 15:09, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
I thought you might have joined UU just for their stance on ethics and making the world a better place; many atheists are in church for that reason, even in orthodox denominations. Welcome (back) to the Nag. Mjollnir.svgListenerXTalkerX 21:01, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
Well, I wouldn't have joined a church that didn't suit my political/ethical view/vision of what a better world would look like; likely those issues would trump any theological differences. But I also needed a place where I could explore Jesus's teachings and other religious traditions without having to think around a personified God--if that makes sense; I'm still trying to figure it out. Luckily, the "not a creed, but a covenant" aspect of the UU gives me a lot of latitude to do that. Enough to say, 2012 had some moments of existential shittiness that forced me to reevaluate aspects of my cosmological stance, coupled with deep conversations and moments of reflection that had a revelatory dimension. Or maybe I'm just finally losing my mind.


Blocking people for not signing posts? Acei9 19:25, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

For fucking repeatedly creating work for others when they've twice been given instructions on how to do it? Fuck yeah. Theory of Practice "Now we stand outcast and starving 'mid the wonders we have made." 19:27, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
Not really a valid reason to block a non-sysop for 30mins. Acei9 19:28, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
Did not know he wasn't a sysop--no exclamation points in RC, didn't think to check. Just wanted to get his attention. Theory of Practice "Now we stand outcast and starving 'mid the wonders we have made." 19:32, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
Auto-patrolled. Acei9 19:37, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
Yeah. A way to tell the difference at a glance would be handy. Still, fuck that guy, he's a troll. Theory of Practice "Now we stand outcast and starving 'mid the wonders we have made." 19:38, 20 January 2013 (UTC)


Thanks a lot! ShadowUltra (talk) 01:19, 23 January 2013 (UTC)

No problem. Theory of Practice "Seneca Falls and Selma and Stonewall" 01:21, 23 January 2013 (UTC)

Low Carb Page[edit]

You reverted the last edit. Does that mean that you think it's better to have one reference that says the opposite of the point it's used to support and another reference that's a link to a page that has been removed? I don't get it. (talk) 01:23, 23 January 2013 (UTC)

Because your edit implied that "Atkins, SugarBusters!, The Zone, South Beach Diet, Protein Power, the paleo diet, Tim Ferriss' slow-carb diet" aren't fad diets, which is just idiotic. Theory of Practice "Seneca Falls and Selma and Stonewall" 01:28, 23 January 2013 (UTC)
I'm talking about the last edit, which had links to pages that disagreed with the point, and linked to an empty page. Are you simply reverting every edit I make without reading?
As to fad diets, whether you use the standard definition, or the Rational Wiki definition, Atkins, Zone, South Beach and even Paleo don't qualify. They've all been around a long time and all have a good deal of science to support them. Or does fad diet mean whatever you want it to mean? (talk) 01:40, 23 January 2013 (UTC)
Here is last edit I made to the page. I have no idea what edit you're referring to. Theory of Practice "Seneca Falls and Selma and Stonewall" 02:01, 23 January 2013 (UTC)
OK, if it was not you who reverted my last edit, then I apologize. I just re-edited it.CarbShark (talk) 05:52, 23 January 2013 (UTC)


Oh great, you've got me editing there again. TyJFBANBSRADA 22:16, 23 January 2013 (UTC)

There are worse things you could be doing. Theory of Practice "...and we do love you madly." 00:50, 24 January 2013 (UTC)
True. TyJFBANBSRADA 01:09, 24 January 2013 (UTC)
Only if you're actively removing the liberal bias; if not, it's like being an editor of the guide to being a satanist. Nihilist 01:14, 24 January 2013 (UTC)


Why'd you revert the article? If one can have relatively detailed articles on Time Cube and Flat Earthers, I don't see why a Hoxha article can't be reasonably detailed considering he was the leader of a country and many academic works exist on Albania under him. --Ismail (talk) 14:12, 25 January 2013 (UTC)

When somebody with relatively few contributions who seems like a single-issue editor totally revamps an article, especially one on a topic that a lot of us are unfamiliar with, it's probably going to get undone. Two things: 1. start a conversation on the talk page; detail what changes you want to make and why--don't just re-write the article; 2. keep in mind, we are not trying to be Wikipedia, and we are not writing an encyclopedia. If you want to write an objective, factual, boring history of Hoxha, this isn't really the place to do it. Make it short, snappy and fun. Theory of Practice "...and we do love you madly." 14:18, 25 January 2013 (UTC)
My proposed article is not nearly as long as the Stalin article on this website, and it's hardly some dense writing either. I'm fully capable of writing "objective, factual, boring" histories; I wrote the "Soviet–Albanian split" article on Wikipedia as an example. I guess I'll address the talk page of the Hoxha article. --Ismail (talk) 14:24, 25 January 2013 (UTC)
Stalin's a pretty big deal whose life/work affected millions and had implications on a global scale; with all due respect to my Albanian friends, well, I hear it's a nice country. And you say "I'm fully capable of writing "objective, factual, boring" histories." Great. But we don't really want those. Theory of Practice "...and we do love you madly." 14:29, 25 January 2013 (UTC)

Unproductive edit patterns[edit]

Please be aware that your useless and personal attack section heading caused an edit conflict when you did not make any useful contribution to the discussion. I already recommended that the discussion not be derailed any more, and that anyone wanting to continue the discussion should start a new discussion elsewhere and not continue to derail that one. ఠ_ఠ Inquisitor Sasha Ehrenstein des Sturmkrieg Sector 16:11, 25 January 2013 (UTC)

These things happen. I like edit points. Especially editorializing ones. I also don't care about Wikipedia standards when I'm not on Wikipedia. Stop being shrill. See if that helps. Lotsa luv, Theory of Practice "...and we do love you madly." 16:14, 25 January 2013 (UTC)
Ok, I see your point about that. Sorry about the last edit revert. I think Wikipedia policies are helpful because they're community guidelines that can be helpful to everyone. Even there, they aren't strict rules. ఠ_ఠ Inquisitor Sasha Ehrenstein des Sturmkrieg Sector 16:23, 25 January 2013 (UTC)

Sorry about negative interation[edit]

It can be hard sometimes, but I'm working on not being an ass. ఠ_ఠ Inquisitor Sasha Ehrenstein des Sturmkrieg Sector 16:34, 25 January 2013 (UTC)

It's hard. I struggle with it every day. Theory of Practice "...and we do love you madly." 16:47, 25 January 2013 (UTC)== Is your behaviour indicative of the general 'misrule' here? ==

Is your behaviour indicative of the general 'misrule' here?[edit]

You strike me as a pigheaded individual, used to getting his own way. Is your behaviour typical of this site or are you merely tolerated? ProudTory (talk) 18:03, 26 January 2013 (UTC)

Pretty much the former. Hugs and kisses, Theory of Practice "...and we do love you madly." 18:07, 26 January 2013 (UTC)
Wow, trolling trolls troll. Green mowse.pngGodot She was a venus demilo in her sister's jeans 18:20, 26 January 2013 (UTC)
PT, like I said in your saloon bar thread, we're the minority here. We can get our way, we just need to be calm, emphasize reasonability, and not be confrontational. This is very not calm, reasonable, and is very confrontational. I'd like it if you calmed down and became an active user here so I'm not so much of a token conservative.--Just relax, and stay funny (talk) 20:20, 26 January 2013 (UTC)
Just relax Tory, don't get too uptight with others and your views will be heard. I can assure that if you do that some things will get changed. Hell, I managed to change a few of the plain ridiculous (not even funny) stuff at Conservapedia with enough patience. It's very rewarding. L'homme de la Perspective Discusez? 22:08, 26 January 2013 (UTC)
I guess you're right. I'm sorry Theory of Practise, I just got irritated by your forceful nature, and your tendency to shout down debate with your authority and you disinclination to suffer opposing or dissenting ideas. I'll try to play the 'game' a little more in future. ProudTory (talk) 23:23, 26 January 2013 (UTC)
That... that's... a bit of an improvement?--Just relax, and stay funny (talk) 23:46, 26 January 2013 (UTC)
Well thats what you really mean, isn't it? This is power politics. They have all the power, we have none. In order to be heard we must scrape and bow and say 'thank you sir, thank you very much sir, I sure am grateful sir'. I prefer to have a frank exchange of views rather than play at politics. ProudTory (talk) 23:50, 26 January 2013 (UTC)
Marginal, silly, goofy websites like this are hardly about "power" or "politics." Theory of Practice "...and we do love you madly." 23:59, 26 January 2013 (UTC)
RationalWiki is serious business. When you implied i was an idiot, i went off into my bathroom and cried for three hours.
By the way, i'm organizing a revolution to overthrow the tyrannical pigs that control this site and establish a just government. Nihilist 00:03, 27 January 2013 (UTC)
Damn straight. I am plotting my ascension to power. One day I will overthrow the powers that be and take out all the sheep jokes in the New Zealand article force the wiki to accept my political vision. DamoHi 00:09, 27 January 2013 (UTC)
Ah, I'm realizing you're just another goddamn neo-con. No ally of mine.--Just relax, and stay funny (talk) 00:17, 27 January 2013 (UTC)
Am I somebody who believes that the western world has a duty to intervene and protect countries from themselves? Yes I am. If that makes me a neo conservative so be it. ProudTory (talk) 00:52, 27 January 2013 (UTC)
And exactly what does that look like, "protect them from themselves?" wow. Green mowse.pngGodot She was a venus demilo in her sister's jeans 01:00, 27 January 2013 (UTC)
Mali is in peril, in danger of fragmenting and providing a base for radical jihadists. The French have the right idea. Syria is fragmenting, breaking up, and threatens to envelop the entire region. The UN ought to intervene militarily, topple Assad, and usher in elections. Intervening in countries that threaten to destroy themselves is a moral and absolute good. Look at what could have happened in the former Yugoslavia (One of the few things Blair did right). I didn't support Iraq or Afghanistan for the record, they were wars of aggression. I did support Sierra Leone and the Balkans though. ProudTory (talk) 01:05, 27 January 2013 (UTC) EDIT: You seem to be going out of your way to get offended. Relax. ProudTory (talk) 01:06, 27 January 2013 (UTC)
That's fascinating. Please take this conversation off my talk page. Thanks. Theory of Practice "...and we do love you madly." 01:22, 27 January 2013 (UTC)
Should we make him a forum, do you think? Peter Droid whisperer 01:23, 27 January 2013 (UTC)
Is making a forum your answer to everything — on a wiki? Nihilist 01:33, 27 January 2013 (UTC)
It isn't a terrible way to deal with problem posters. I don't know if PT has shown himself to be enough of a problem poster to really merit it though.--Just relax, and stay funny (talk) 01:37, 27 January 2013 (UTC)
Yeah, i would wait a while before taking drastic actions. Nihilist 01:39, 27 January 2013 (UTC)
(EC)Maybe not, or at least not yet. But the similarity to our old mate Dirk is uncanny... Peter Droid whisperer 01:40, 27 January 2013 (UTC)
I subscribe to the view that all trolls are the same person, so i suspect that we'll be hearing more about Scientology and the evils of psychiatry soon. Nihilist 01:43, 27 January 2013 (UTC)
Not before tomorrow, I hope. Peter Droid whisperer 01:48, 27 January 2013 (UTC)