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DB optimization[edit]

I am going to take advantage of it being a) sunday and b) having a little free time to run some database optimization routines that I hope will help smooth somethings out. It may cause some sluggish behavior/errors along the way just let me know if it appears to be anything serious. tmtoulouse irritate 20:15, 24 February 2008 (EST) out for cracks. tmtoulouse irritate 20:27, 24 February 2008 (EST)
Haha, you said "crack". humanUser talk:Human 20:38, 24 February 2008 (EST)
I have also managed to sputter up stubbot, a little rusty but we shall see. Was I suppose to make a change to him? tmtoulouse irritate 20:43, 24 February 2008 (EST)
Not that I recall, but you were supposed to make/run a bot that finds all the iterations of "welcome" with two parameters and delete the first one each time. And tell whoever uses it that way to stop. So we make it better. humanUser talk:Human 20:44, 24 February 2008 (EST)
Oh yea..... tmtoulouse irritate 20:46, 24 February 2008 (EST)


Anyone watching the Oscars? Notice how, in typical Hollywood Values fashion, the liberals are giving so many awards to non-Americans? Some barely even speak English, and gave parts of their speeches in other languages! Instead of the Academy Awards, they should be called the affirmative action awards! Did you notice how not one white male was even nominated for an awards in the Best Actress in a Supporting Role category? It's to be expected of liberals, I suppose. It is 95% likely they none of these people believe in school prayer. DickTurpis 22:20, 24 February 2008 (EST)

Ooh! Ooh! They also gave an Oscar to evil atheist film The Golden Compass! It was for "visual effects", but we all know the other nominees deserved it more... --Star of David.png Radioactive afikomen Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments. 23:26, 24 February 2008 (EST)
Damn, Dick, you should be writing CPs main page copy for them. Where does parody leave off and CP begin? Maybe it doesn't... PoorEd 08:48, 25 February 2008 (EST)
Of course they are all evil atheists or Jews otherwise they wouldn't hold the awards on a Sunday. Jollyfish.gifGenghis Marauding 09:12, 25 February 2008 (EST)
Well, I don't know if attending the Oscars qualifies as "work"...except for the media types who have to attend. PoorEd 09:27, 25 February 2008 (EST)
All that is only to be expected with an evil Liberal atheist Jew like Jon Stewart as the host. :nods: --AKjeldsenGodspeed! 09:28, 25 February 2008 (EST)
With No Country for Old Men taking Best Picture, after being nominated alongside Juno, I'm thinking the CP crew have more ground for pants-wetting this year than for fist-shaking. Also, with regard to The Golden Compass, everyone knows that technical awards are equivalent to winning the "participation" ribbon in a high school track meet. -Pretzel 12:31, 25 February 2008 (EST)
:D Though I always liked the term "booby prize" more. --Star of David.png Radioactive afikomen Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments. 13:02, 25 February 2008 (EST)
Man, I was mad when I saw The Golden Compass get best visual effects ... Transformers was way cooler. ŖєuĻєReuleauxTriangle.pnguxsay wнäτ? 15:04, 25 February 2008 (EST)
Yah. Creating Transformers was a major breakthough in terms of the complexity and quality of computer graphics, while I heard no such revelations about Golden Compass. So Transformers probably deserved the Technical Achievement Oscar more. --Star of David.png Radioactive afikomen Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments. 15:09, 25 February 2008 (EST)

This can't be healthy...[edit]

Jesus Christ. Someone on RationalWikiWiki has raised some sort of monster: RationalWiki social rank.

I find myself saddened to not see myself on it. --Star of David.png Radioactive afikomen Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments. 17:41, 25 February 2008 (EST)

It seems to be a work in progress, so you probably will soon enough. --AKjeldsenGodspeed! 17:46, 25 February 2008 (EST)
I vehemently dispute my high rank. I was so inactive for like a couple months. And I'm hideously ugly.-αmεσ (mission accomplished!) 17:49, 25 February 2008 (EST)
I suspect it's your legal skillz that just give you that natural air of authority. Or something. --AKjeldsenGodspeed! 17:51, 25 February 2008 (EST)
And my cute butt.-17:53, 25 February 2008 (EST)
You are the driving force behind many policies and initiatives on RW. And you are more active than tmt. --Hans Johnson as in "keep ya hans off my" (cover your eyes!) 18:35, 25 February 2008 (EST)

Is anyone else mildly but consistently saddened that the site name is still spelt wrong? :( UchihaKATON! 18:12, 25 February 2008 (EST)

I tried to spell "typo" wrong in an edit comment. Unfortunately, I made a tyop and spelled it right. humanUser talk:Human 18:15, 25 February 2008 (EST)
Hmmm, I see it is the 26th there already... server in Eastern Europe? Or my prefs not set right? humanUser talk:Human 18:19, 25 February 2008 (EST)
I must be in Tier -1. GrandSoviet 19:42, 25 February 2008 (EST)
I think we should all go put ourselves wherever we think we belong. Too bad some tiers don't have definitions. And too bad there aren't nine circles, instead of 6+0 tiers. humanUser talk:Human 19:47, 25 February 2008 (EST)
Yay! I'm on "Tier 1!" I feel popular and validated. Because number one is always the best, right? ;) -Pretzel 23:14, 25 February 2008 (EST)
Yes, you are number 1, Pretzel!!!! Let me see what chores I can delegate to you! humanUser talk:Human 00:16, 26 February 2008 (EST)
I really thought I'd be Tier 0. Surprising. -- kjm.rt  00:33, 26 February 2008 (EST)
I think, although that article is teh funny, it needs a lot of work. Feel free to do it? humanUser talk:Human 00:35, 26 February 2008 (EST)

I don't suppose that somebody with RWW Sysop powers would care to fix a few pages on RWW? Somebody used one of my IP's to blank a few pages.Signed: False Flag.

Yes, nice mess. I fixed a few, but then looking at "your" contribs was faced with the daunting task of checking every damn edit for "legitimacy". On a slow-loading wiki. Why don't you fix it? And use a handle there instead of proxies? It would have made this task easier... humanUser talk:Human 16:55, 26 February 2008 (EST)
I just discovered that someone rewrote the article on Bohdan. It used to be something like five lines long (here). --Star of David.png Radioactive afikomen Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments. 15:44, 28 February 2008 (EST)

Heh, "Tier 3 is somewhere between Tier 4 (see above) and Tier 2 (see below)." -Smyth 12:05, 11 March 2008 (EDT)

What's wrong with them asserting the superiority of their math skillz to Conservapedia's?  : ) --Star of David.png Radioactive afikomen Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments. 13:13, 11 March 2008 (EDT)

Ken's homosexuality[edit]

is causing problems. Google now ranks CP's homosexuality article second when searching for that term. Any chance we could drive up our homosexuality article, to make sure that CPs is "flanked" by... realistic articles? --Hojidie! 12:42, 26 February 2008 (EST)

I used to think it was a problem that it was gaining the ranks, but I don't think so anymore. I don't think the number of people who look at that will think, "oh, yeah, that's a good point" - I think he's making his site, and his beliefs, look even more stupid. Let him run himself up the flagpole like that, just to be laughed at. It might be almost as good as it is bad, to have it that popular & be mocked.-αmεσ (mission accomplished!) 12:45, 26 February 2008 (EST)
Oh absolutely. The bigger the audience for this hate-filled codswallop, the better for humanity. It will also lead to more and more sensible editors pouring in the gates. DogP 12:53, 26 February 2008 (EST)
It'll certainly drive more traffic towards us! --Star of David.png Radioactive afikomen Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments. 12:51, 26 February 2008 (EST)
And the more mainstream articles that are written about CP looniness, the more facts that will be added to the WP article on the Andyblog. PoorEd 13:13, 26 February 2008 (EST)
Well, the Wikipedia article on CP already is facty. Remember, any statements have to be sourced, and technically all we have to offer is anecdotal evidence. Until a formal study is conducted on how much Conservapedia sucks ass, anything else that is put in is original research. It would also kill the NPOV policy. --Star of David.png Radioactive afikomen Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments. 13:17, 26 February 2008 (EST)
Im just suggesting that if CP gets a higher profile the mainstream media will produce more stories on the them and that will provide ever more "facts" to add to the WP article.PoorEd 14:00, 26 February 2008 (EST)

I believe Ken to be in his mid-40s and still living with his mom and pop. How sad. Jollyfish.gifGenghis Marauding 13:21, 26 February 2008 (EST)

I believe that's correct. And hanging out at colleges. I feel badly for him and Andy. While they're clearly evil people, I think it's the case that something bad has happened to make them this way (in Andy's case, that bad thing might be... Phyllis Schlafly), but it's still sad.-αmεσ (mission accomplished!) 14:14, 26 February 2008 (EST)
Forty???? Surely you mean fourteen? I find it difficult to conceive of someone of his intellectual immaturity as being any older. DickTurpis 14:19, 26 February 2008 (EST)
I do feel sorry for Ken. But not assfly. 15:03, 26 February 2008 (EST)
I feel sorry for all of them. But then, I tend to feel sorry for everyone who wastes their lives the way we they do. --AKjeldsenGodspeed! 15:07, 26 February 2008 (EST)

For those who want to know more go to and enter Ken Demyer as the search name - there's only one result. Jollyfish.gifGenghis Marauding 15:36, 26 February 2008 (EST)

Anyone willing to fork over $2.95 for a complete background check on him? --Star of David.png Radioactive afikomen Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments. 16:35, 26 February 2008 (EST)
No, that's way creepy.-αmεσ (mission accomplished!) 16:40, 26 February 2008 (EST)
Not to mention you could buy a pint of excellent beer for that money. Priorities! --AKjeldsenGodspeed! 16:40, 26 February 2008 (EST)
Or four donuts. Mmmmm. Boston Creme.-αmεσ (mission accomplished!) 16:46, 26 February 2008 (EST)
Excuse me, but you DID mean, "Or four donuts or Boston Creme filled PASTRIES'" Rgiht??!>! Warren Terra 17:21, 26 February 2008 (EST)
Unfortunately, we can't really buy donuts around here, except for those really crappy ones they sell in 7-Eleven. :-( --AKjeldsenGodspeed! 16:49, 26 February 2008 (EST)
No donuts in Britain? Or just where you live? Either way, : ( --Star of David.png Radioactive afikomen Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments. 17:16, 26 February 2008 (EST)
Donuts are rotten in the state of Denmark. Jollyfish.gifGenghis Marauding 17:26, 26 February 2008 (EST)
Make your own, I'm sure we could get the good Doc to post a recipe if we asked nicely. Donuts with holes, of course. humanUser talk:Human 17:29, 26 February 2008 (EST)
Holey donuts? Kirkburn 20:02, 26 February 2008 (EST)
Dough naughts (donuts) are rather labo(u)r-intensive. They need to open a Tim Horton's in Denmark.-- Asclepius staff.png-PalMD --Grüß Goat! 21:33, 26 February 2008 (EST)

The Earth moved![edit]

Hey: we just had a fucking earthquake! SusanPurrrrr 20:00, 26 February 2008 (EST)

Britain! UK! London! --מְתֻרְגְּמָן שְׁלֹום
Yo, it's true. Weirdness. God must be angry! --JeεvsYour signature gave me epilepsy... 20:03, 26 February 2008 (EST)
Where?! Where?! (I shall assume "the earth moved" was not referring to anything else). Kirkburn 20:03, 26 February 2008 (EST)
Britain! UK! London! --מְתֻרְגְּמָן שְׁלֹום
Not Bristol :( Kirkburn 20:05, 26 February 2008 (EST)
You're too close to Wales for God to be wrathful there. --JeεvsYour signature gave me epilepsy... 20:09, 26 February 2008 (EST)

That was fucked up. The whole house shuddered. (North of England ;) --Robledo 20:07, 26 February 2008 (EST)

OK, when I'm using /b/ as a news source, something's gone wrong, but here is the informations

Magnitude 4.7 Date-Time

  • Wednesday, February 27, 2008 at 00:56:45 UTC
  • Wednesday, February 27, 2008 at 12:56:45 AM at epicenter

Location 53.321°N, 0.314°W Depth 10 km (6.2 miles) set by location program Region ENGLAND, UNITED KINGDOM Distances

  • 48 km (30 miles) S (178°) from Kingston upon Hull, England, UK
  • 69 km (43 miles) NE (55°) from Nottingham, England, UK
  • 79 km (49 miles) E (94°) from Sheffield, England, UK
  • 203 km (126 miles) N (357°) from LONDON, United Kingdom

--מְתֻרְגְּמָן שְׁלֹום

Possibly as high as 5.0 - (link appears to have gone down because of people like me :P ) ... BBC News 24 briefly mentioned it, more likely soon. FSM, I love the internet. Saw this note, then also saw the IRC channels and forums light up :D Kirkburn 20:22, 26 February 2008 (EST)

About 20 miles away! SusanPurrrrr 20:28, 26 February 2008 (EST)

Have you been crushed by falling rubble? ;) --מְתֻרְגְּמָן שְׁלֹום

You OK? Any damage? According to wikipedia's wp:Richter Scale, that's 'minor', but I wouldn't want to be in one. --Gulik 20:44, 26 February 2008 (EST)

No damage here, just a new experience chalked up. I remember a tremor that rattled me windows a few years ago, but I've never actually felt everything moving before! --Robledo 20:50, 26 February 2008 (EST)

Felt like a large lorry (truck) passing within inches of the house - no damage reported anywhere. SusanPurrrrr 21:06, 26 February 2008 (EST)
"Biggest earthquake of my life" - Our brethren in California must be laughing their arses off right now :D --JeεvsYour signature gave me epilepsy... 21:13, 26 February 2008 (EST)

Yeah, a couple of years ago, there was a little earthquake while I was at work. No shaking so much as one big boom. We'd thought a propane tank had exploded. One of the other girls, working the third floor, actually felt the aftershock, but all we felt at ground level was the main blast. --Kels 21:21, 26 February 2008 (EST)

I don't know about you, but this terrified the life out of me. Cloverfield much? --מְתֻרְגְּמָן שְׁלֹום
I've nver felt an earthquake (out of bed). What I think is creepy is that they analyse it's depth and girth (the earthquake, that is). humanUser talk:Human 22:14, 26 February 2008 (EST)

As a californian who has felt a number of 3s, 4s, and a few 5s, being near a 5.3 would be something to wake a person up. That said, we have much more fun here - (and if you want to get a regularly vibrating ground, check out ). If you want to find fun big old quakes, check out New Madrid, Missouri. In 1811 there was an earthquake there that was so strong (an 8.0 or there about - San Francisco 1906 was 7.8), it rang church bells in Boston. --Shagie 22:17, 26 February 2008 (EST)

They have earthquakes in Britain? A couple of weeks ago, I was asking myself if there was one quake-free place on earth, and I figured it would be the U.K. I'm still a little bit confused about how that would work geologically — maybe that's because I'm from a place where it's easy to explain earthquakes. Every once in a while, the Juan de Fuca likes to lovingly caress the North American Plate, and then we get a 4.0-6.0 magnitude quake. One of these days, Juan de Fuca is going to take North America home, after which Juan de Fuca is going to say, "Wow, I think we just subducted our brains out," and North America is going to rumage dumbly around the floor for its things and ask, "Hey, where'd you put Seattle and Vancouver?" -Pretzel 22:54, 26 February 2008 (EST)
XD --Star of David.png Radioactive afikomen Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments. 23:26, 26 February 2008 (EST)
Tsk, didn't they teach you about earthquake propagation back in your equivalent of GCSE physics? I still vaguely remember having to memorise the different types of waves and how they travelled, not that I can remember the waves themselves anymore. I don't think it came up in the exam, fortunately :D --JeεvsYour signature gave me epilepsy... 01:28, 27 February 2008 (EST)
As a professional seismologist I think we can discount the presence of gay semites in Lincolnshire for this one. However, earthquakes are quite common in the UK. We had one in Wrexham about 20 years ago and both our dogs were sick. Earthquakes are quite common at tectonic plate margins although it depends particularly if a subduction zone is involved. Northwestern Europe is still vulnerable owing to its isostatic adjustment after the melting of all that heavy ice after the last ice-age. If you want to be earthquake free then you need somewhere geologically stable which tends to point to pre-Cambrian "shields" such as central Africa, north-eastern Canada, the eastern Amazon area of Brazil, western Australia and Antarctica. Of course if you're a YEC then you're not safe anywhere. Jollyfish.gifGenghis Marauding 06:56, 27 February 2008 (EST)
Good grief! Now that's an exotic profession! But did you feel it? I'm proud of myself for recognising it so quickly I logged on within 2 minutes of the 'event'. SusanPurrrrr 07:05, 27 February 2008 (EST)
Quite common? I lived in Japan for many years, and we had earthquakes there on a monthly basis. As long as it feels like the floor is sliding back and forth you're all right. It's when it jumps up and down that you better watch out. At least that was the view in Tokyo. PoorEd 17:42, 27 February 2008 (EST)


Odd piece of news here, worth mentioning anywhere? Because, you know, Tora Bora is just too far away and inconvenient. DickTurpis 21:17, 26 February 2008 (EST)

Was it you or Hoji who found this first? Because he cites the same thing on his userpage. --Star of David.png Radioactive afikomen Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments. 23:28, 26 February 2008 (EST)
Interesting. Let's chalk this up to both of us then. Though I'm less indignant about it. In fact, to quote a Very Smart Animal, methinks Hoj doth protesteth too mucheth. What is his little WoW persona hiding? I think the FBI would like to know. DickTurpis 23:32, 26 February 2008 (EST)

The All New Awesome Andy Nickname[edit]

I have found a new nickname for Andy! Nanotyrannus! It's Latin for "pygmy tyrant"! Because he is a small (-minded), petty tyrant. --Star of David.png Radioactive afikomen Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments. 01:13, 27 February 2008 (EST)

Nice. Though I'm still partial to Dr. Babyshakes. DickTurpis 01:22, 27 February 2008 (EST)
I like Babyshakes because it almost sounds like a term of endearment unless you know to what it refers. PoorEd 08:31, 27 February 2008 (EST)
I just added both to his article. Anyone have any more? DickTurpis 10:10, 27 February 2008 (EST)
Due to the wisdom of CP, I recommended to my sister-in-law NOT to vaccinate her children, but to shake the germs right out of them instead. I am now on a two-week "time-out" from visiting my nieces. Thanks for nothing, CP! --Jdellaro 11:19, 27 February 2008 (EST)
Hee! Hee! SusanPurrrrr 11:22, 27 February 2008 (EST)
The Conservinator? PoorEd 14:43, 27 February 2008 (EST)
I created sections at his article under "liberal mockery" for nicknames and anagrams. Have at it... humanUser talk:Human 17:58, 27 February 2008 (EST)

I prefer to suffix his name with -"mort." Loves to play power games and tends to alienate even his most loyal followers. -Pretzel 23:27, 27 February 2008 (EST)

Wikipedia police[edit]

have we all seen this? Anybody want to right an exhaustedly researched article about the CP politzei? --Hojidie! 16:36, 27 February 2008 (EST)

No. GrandSoviet 19:48, 27 February 2008 (EST)

They called it[edit]

Looks like Mr. Show was ahead of its time once again. DickTurpis 20:50, 27 February 2008 (EST)

Vaccine hysteria[edit]

Okay, so I just finished watching Larry King Live, which was about autism, and most of the episode was dedicated to Dr. Jerry Kartzinel spreading the false claim that vaccines cause autism and singer Toni Braxton backing this up with a personal anecdote about her autistic son. The show concluded with a fine print statement from Every Child by Two that all the major medical organizations in the U.S. reject this hypothesis. Of course, this was grudgingly put up on screen in the last 30 seconds of the show, after an hour in which Dr. Kartinzel and his panel of popstars and football heroes had been given leave to vent all sorts of wacky nonsense on air (like the claim that the American government is covering up the vaccine-autism link because it fears lawsuits and that the originally seperate vaccines for measles, mumps, and rubella were combined into the comprehensive MMR vaccine only to cut down on the costs). Is this really the state of the media? That we're supposed to trust the opinion of one rogue doctor and a few celebrities over that of the AMA, AAP, NIH, FDA, and WHO? It really puts a bee in my bonnet. -Pretzel 22:44, 27 February 2008 (EST)

It's Larry King Live...IOW "infotainment". Warren Terra 23:01, 27 February 2008 (EST)
Expect a swift response from Orac.-- Asclepius staff.png-PalMD --Grüß Goat! 23:08, 27 February 2008 (EST)
I never watch LKL but during the elections it sometimes came on in the background if I got distracted. I happened to catch his piece on the "ufo sighting" a few weeks ago. It was the same credulous bullshit as the vaccine stuff. Lary King is total woo. tmtoulouse irritate 23:09, 27 February 2008 (EST)
More like "misinfotainment." Perhaps I'm naive. I had the TV on as white noise while I was doing something else, but I got drawn in, because I'm an "Aspie," you see, and the anti-vaccination movement is something which ruffles my feathers. -Pretzel 23:21, 27 February 2008 (EST)
Really? I'm Aspie, too! --Star of David.png Radioactive afikomen Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments. 01:31, 28 February 2008 (EST)
O rly? Ya rly! -Pretzel 10:56, 28 February 2008 (EST)

CP Sysop contest pool[edit]

Never too early to start. I started to get the major players in order over at Conservapedia Talk:Next sysop pool. Feel free to add any and suggest some starting odds. Shoudl probably refrain from picking one til the odds are in. DickTurpis 14:12, 28 February 2008 (EST)

There will never be another CP sysop, unless Andy Jr. starts dating an avidly YEC person that Andy already knows. humanUser talk:Human 14:20, 28 February 2008 (EST)
I suppose that could be given odds, too. PoorEd 14:34, 28 February 2008 (EST)
I'm not so sure. With many current sysops less and less active, Andy will probably realize that he needs a few more lieutenants to keep his ship in order (Himmler and Heydrich can't do it all themselves). Seems PhyllisS should be a natural choice, if he wants to give Learn Together the high hat once more. DickTurpis 14:58, 28 February 2008 (EST)
What does "giving LearnTogether the high hat" mean? Wouldn't giving PhyllisS sysop powers be completely snubbing LearnTogether? --Star of David.png Radioactive afikomen Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments. 15:05, 28 February 2008 (EST)
Basically, yes. The fact that Andy pretends that CP is a meritocracy, but routinely passes over the solid contributors in favor of nepotism and sycophantic homeschoolers is a bit of a slap in the face to those contributors. Several editors over there were visibly miffed when CollegeRepublican got his sysopship. To this day he has made 2 edits, none to the mainspace. DickTurpis 15:11, 28 February 2008 (EST)
Maybe from Andy's point of view College Republican is the perfect CP sysop - no vandalism, no liberal deceit, no disagreement with Andy... PoorEd 15:46, 28 February 2008 (EST)


I've just read cp's "angel" article. there's no indication of where & when they originated. How do these fundies explain their existence?
There's also the statement: "Only Abrahamic religions believe in the existence of angels." is this a fact? SusanThe Earth Moved 14:23, 28 February 2008 (EST)

That is wrong. --DarrowX 14:26, 28 February 2008 (EST)
Angels exist in Zoroastrianism for one thing, in a roughly similar manner as in the Abrahamic religions. Hinduism has the Devas, but they are somewhat different, more like demi-gods with powers of their own. And Buddhism has Devas as well, but I gave up trying to parse Buddhist cosmology long ago, so I don't really know how they view them. --AKjeldsenGodspeed! 14:45, 28 February 2008 (EST)
Angels? I love that song! GrandSoviet 15:47, 28 February 2008 (EST)
Nice song. Reminds me of In Nomine. --AKjeldsenGodspeed! 15:58, 28 February 2008 (EST)
Woo, sounds like a fun game; plus it uses GURPS, which is what Fallout was originally going to use. GrandSoviet 18:46, 28 February 2008 (EST)
But where'd they come from for these fundies? SusanThe Earth Moved 15:52, 28 February 2008 (EST)
They'd say they were created by God, I'd guess. The Bible doesn't have anything to say about it, and I doubt they have imagination enough to think up something on their own. --AKjeldsenGodspeed! 15:58, 28 February 2008 (EST)

Now that's worrying![edit]

1 in 99 American Adults in prison! (1 in 36 Hispaniscs; 1 in 15 AfricanAmericans) SusanThe Earth Moved 20:49, 28 February 2008 (EST)

Oh, that was on ABC news relayed on BBC World btw.SusanThe Earth Moved 20:56, 28 February 2008 (EST)
I know. America is perhaps the country that most hates its own people. --Star of David.png Radioactive afikomen Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments. 21:06, 28 February 2008 (EST)
We'd better keep our numbers down - don't want no jailbirds on here! :) SusanThe Earth Moved 21:07, 28 February 2008 (EST)
We'll take 'em. We're always happy to put more people in jail! Just make sure they are poor and black—we don't like rich white people in our prisons. --Star of David.png Radioactive afikomen Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments. 21:14, 28 February 2008 (EST)
Why not? It might help them, you know, get un-criminal. An awful lot of them are on mandatory minimum sentences for minor drug-related offenses. The War on Drugs is really a war on non-whites. humanUser talk:Human 21:16, 28 February 2008 (EST)

Article for According_To? Deceit=Smartness[edit]

This article suggests good lying means more intelligence: If your 4-year-old is a good liar, it’s a strong sign she’s got brains. 17:48, 29 February 2008 (EST)

I can see where you're coming from on this but it looks like a hot potato! Jollyfish.gifGenghis Marauding 17:59, 29 February 2008 (EST)
That's really interesting. But the article was more about what conditions kids to lie and how to prevent it, rather than, "If your kid is a liar, congratulations!" GrandSoviet 18:02, 2 March 2008 (EST)

Non domestic Military spending[edit]

Is the US right wing getting annoyed about the Military's purchase of foreign aircraft yet? SusanThe Earth Moved 18:40, 29 February 2008 (EST)

I believe they are. Jollyfish.gifGenghis Marauding 04:50, 1 March 2008 (EST)
B-b-but the free market! Guess it's only a good thing when your side's winning. But on the bright side, now Boeing has $40 billion extra to spend on hiring aerospace engineering students for internships (not that I'm biased or anything).--BillOhannitygodvelocity. 13:20, 2 March 2008 (EST)

Saint David's Day[edit]


A happy St David's day to all my Welsh colleagues.--Bobbing up 04:05, 1 March 2008 (EST)

Same to you, boyo. Have a leek, look you. --JeεvsYour signature gave me epilepsy... 09:10, 1 March 2008 (EST)
What is it with Wales and those leeks, anyway? --AKjeldsenGodspeed! 09:23, 1 March 2008 (EST)
Goes back to ancient battle. Wore leeks to differentiate the good guys from the bad, or at least that's the story I was told as a lad. --Bobbing up 09:28, 1 March 2008 (EST)
Thanks, Bob! Wish we had daffodils right about now... humanUser talk:Human 16:29, 1 March 2008 (EST)

LEEEEEEEEEEEEEKS!!!11!!! --Kels 20:08, 1 March 2008 (EST)

Science education[edit]

One of the basic problems in the US in be is the lack of education - good teachers not getting the resources to properly enthuse students about science. With the cuts in California for education, news stations have mentioned Donors Choose[1] as ways for people to help schools. Things like this and this are ways for people to actively fight what is seen in homeschool 'science' fairs. Realizing that the audience here is international and in many cases closer in age to the students than the teachers I'm not expecting everyone to jump on board. Still, for those with the means it is a way to help. --Shagie 21:43, 2 March 2008 (EST)

"One of the basic problems in the US in be is the lack of education" Or maybe, sadly our lack of Engliss skilz? If there was a wigo RW place somewhere, they'd be rippin' you new one for that. Sorry. I agree with your point, though. humanUser talk:Human 02:17, 3 March 2008 (EST)


Does anyone know who wp:User talk:Rationalwiki user is? it's apparently been giving us a bad name on WP (click the link to see) Susanpurrrrr 22:39, 2 March 2008 (EST)

Eh, teh internets sucks sometimes. I left a comment "disowning the troll" humanUser talk:Human 02:15, 3 March 2008 (EST)

Brits Take Note[edit]

I'll wipe this @ 10 o'clock but Stephen Hawking's on t'telly tonight. (dunno if you can get it on t'interweb - channel 4) Susanpurrrrr 13:47, 3 March 2008 (EST)

Oh and listen to BBC 7 (radio) @ 7: the GOOOOOONS!!!! Susanpurrrrr 13:49, 3 March 2008 (EST)
So: 10 minutes after writing the above a friend (sic) phones for emergency transport to hospital where his aged mother has been rushed in. So of course I missed Hawking! Any good, was it? Susanpurrrrr 17:34, 3 March 2008 (EST)

Logo Issues[edit]

Anyone notice that our logo is not showing in the upper left corner?--TimS 15:42, 3 March 2008 (EST)

It isn't? ...Wait, yes it is. --Star of David.png Radioactive afikomen Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments. 15:47, 3 March 2008 (EST)
Fine here. humanUser talk:Human 16:22, 3 March 2008 (EST)
I had this problem but it suddenly righted itself. However, the WIGO arrows only reappeared after clearing out all my temporary internet files. Jollyfish.gifGenghis Marauding 16:25, 3 March 2008 (EST)

RIP Gary Gygax[edit]


News article. Don't pretend you don't know who he is... DickTurpis 17:08, 4 March 2008 (EST)

Oh noes! The Creator! :-( --AKjeldsenGodspeed! 17:15, 4 March 2008 (EST)
Looks like he just missed the last saving throw he'll ever make = ( -- 17:29, 4 March 2008 (EST)
Gary once said in an interview, "I would like the world to remember me as the guy who really enjoyed playing games and sharing his knowledge and his fun pastimes with everybody else."
Don't worry, Gary. We will. -Master Bra'tacKree! 17:45, 4 March 2008 (EST)

I'd never heard of him. I have heard of D&D, though (: Brianetta Brian Ronald, UK. Talk here 12:23, 6 March 2008 (EST)


cp user HAMMET brings this site to attention. Please take the chance. Susanpurrrrr 12:08, 6 March 2008 (EST)

Meh. A meaningless unscientific poll. I wouldn't give it any credence. DickTurpis 12:39, 6 March 2008 (EST)
"Meh"? What sort of reasoned discourse is that? :) Susanpurrrrr 12:44, 6 March 2008 (EST)
Yeah, 3100 responses in the US compared to 300 million residents. Not statistically significant, but it would be amusing if Andy's head explodes over the unchecked expansion of atheism and the need for more God Warriors. Stile4aly 12:53, 6 March 2008 (EST)
The 3000 might have some significance if it were random, but it's not. It's pretty clear that for whatever reason, that site is visited by atheists more than theists. It's also likely some people voted many times. The numbers are meaningless. DickTurpis 13:28, 6 March 2008 (EST)
Restart OSM, that's what I say. It shouldn't be too hard to swing it one way or another. --מְתֻרְגְּמָן שְׁלֹום
If you thought that I took any notice of the result I apologise. I just thought it was amusing & might Upset AS. (I've tried to vote twice & couldn't - I've not got cookies allowed) Susanpurrrrr 13:34, 6 March 2008 (EST)
Susan, temporarily allow cookies, then clean out your temp internet files & cookies, vote again, and return to deny cookies. Actually, checking the results I see that Vatican City is 100% atheist. 8) Jollyfish.gifGenghis Marauding 06:53, 7 March 2008 (EST)
That didn't work for me, maybe there's something else?  Lily Thank you very much! 07:41, 7 March 2008 (EST)

That poll roughly agrees with the percentage of internet surfers that do not believe that God had any dealings in evolution. . The caveat following that poll applies equally to the yesno site. Self selected surveys are not a good indicator of the populace as a whole. --Shagie 15:05, 7 March 2008 (EST)

Active RationalWikians[edit]

I am trying to determine the number of active editors on RW for a RationalWikiWiki article. Given that I am not present here at all times, and I have neither the time nor the inclination to analyze individual users' edit rates, I would greatly appreciate any help with the article. Much thanks, --Hans Johnson as in "keep ya hans off my" (cover your eyes!) 14:51, 7 March 2008 (EST)

Well, I'm not active! Susanpurrrrr 14:59, 7 March 2008 (EST)
Active in regards to editing, dear :-) --Hans Johnson as in "keep ya hans off my" (cover your eyes!) 15:02, 7 March 2008 (EST)
Oooooh - patronising. Susanpurrrrr 15:04, 7 March 2008 (EST)
*Pats Susan on the head* Now now... Timppeli 15:10, 7 March 2008 (EST)

One place to start might be the various "polls" that have popped up, from how did you find, to that compass one RA set up, to the 2008 pres poll. Then skim recent changes for any you missed. Or make a poll of your own in the essay space and spam the link in a few highly visible places. humanUser talk:Human 15:15, 7 March 2008 (EST)

I am not at all active. I am usually to be found prone on the floor, face down, beside my kitteh, asleep. Yet I am All-Knowing, as I have the intarweb bah mah sahde. DogP 16:28, 7 March 2008 (EST)

I'm active, but frequently in violation of the 90/10 rule. Stile4aly 01:02, 12 March 2008 (EDT)

90/10??? here at RW we have a viciously enforced (not) 99/1 rule. You must make 99 talk page comments before you are permitted to even dare make 1 substantive edit to an article! humanUser talk:Human 01:44, 12 March 2008 (EDT)

Another CP Main Page Item[edit]

Look over here! Woooo! Vaccines cause Autism. Come on now, you know this is good enough for the CP Main Page. Iis1stConservapediaSockMonster 16:23, 7 March 2008 (EST)

Yes! Just be sure to quote mine the first third of that article and ignore the rest completely. You know you want to! --AKjeldsenGodspeed! 16:46, 7 March 2008 (EST)

Yes we can! DogP 16:49, 7 March 2008 (EST)

*cheers hysterically* --AKjeldsenGodspeed! 16:55, 7 March 2008 (EST)

Well done CPSockMonster, it seems they took the bait. Although it seems Andy couldn't quite bring himself to use your source. DogP 17:14, 8 March 2008 (EST)

New path[edit]

With Fox's excellent desire to reconciliate the masses, perhaps now is the time to meet CP with greater respect. I've noticed since TK has left, CP has become less crazy than it used to be. I mean Andy still has crazy front news stories (as does Crocite) but with the likes of Fox showing good sense, perhaps now is the time to embrace CP once again and contribute positively. MarcusCicero 18:47, 8 March 2008 (EST)

With Andy still at the helm - don't make me lafffffff. Susanpurrrrr18:49, 8 March 2008 (EST)
Why would any one here want to contribute positively to CP? If you are going to go out and improve the intertubes then go to Wikipedia. Its better if Conservapedia is the internet trash heap; it gives the loony veiws of its leader less credibility. - Icewedge 18:59, 8 March 2008 (EST)
Marcus, you are little late to the game. Doc and Ames have both been banhammered by Kangaroo for disagreeing with teh assfly. Plus ca change, plus la meme chose, eh? (apologies for my schoolboy French) humanUser talk:Human 21:14, 8 March 2008 (EST)

With T"I'll ban you for looking at me wrong"K and Rob"If you say that vaccines don't cause autism you're defending communism's murder of 100 million people"Smith gone, the place has shown some improvement, but as long as Andy, Karajou, and Crocoite remain the place will be a festering pile of shit that no one will be allowed to clean. If Fox, DanH, and PJR were the guys in charge, there would till be a high degree of batshit insanity (especially of the YEC variety), but the place wouldn't be a police state and there could actually be room for some form of quality entries. At least you wouldn't have this "only liberals are deceitful because we refuse to recognize deceit by any conservative" bullshit. Since that's not about to happen, it hardly matters. DickTurpis 21:29, 8 March 2008 (EST)

They are stark-raving mad and have no interest in truth. Period. Exclamation point. There is no reason to try to improve them any more than there is reason to send someone to AA when they aren't ready to quit.-- Asclepius staff.png-PalMD --Grüß Goat! 22:50, 8 March 2008 (EST)

So said Doc, after a rather frustrating 48 hours, I suspect. (In the hellhole that is CP) humanUser talk:Human 01:24, 9 March 2008 (EST)
I agree with the Doc. Quality edits to the site only validate the inanity and insanity of a site whose Feckless Leader considers "Embrace Deceit" a quality edit. PoorEd 11:09, 10 March 2008 (EDT)
They only seem "saner" because nothing is happening over their anymore. Well over 90 percent of the edits are limited information copy pastes about generic topics wikipedia will always cover better. Their reason d'etre was the crazy shit produced by Conservative/RobS/Aschlafly......there is a reason we are all so inclined to jump on Schlafly's "liberal articles" and crocites crazy news headlines on the front page.....its all thats left. No one (not even CP if they are honest) care about one sentence long ship articles. 12:03, 10 March 2008 (EDT)

cp: links[edit]

Because of the fashion in which MediaWiki handles interwiki links, I've been able to set the rel attribute to "nofollow" on all cp:Article links. This essentially de-indexes our links to them on most search engines, so… --Linus(plot evil tech) 17:47, 9 March 2008 (EDT)

*tests* Great work, Linus! :D --Sid 10:52, 13 March 2008 (EDT)

Religious Values[edit]

This might be fun for "According to..."--WJThomas 08:41, 10 March 2008 (EDT)


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Of course, uploading this one broke the serendipity. humanUser talk:Human 21:11, 10 March 2008 (EDT)