RationalWiki:Duplicate articles/Archive10

Merge Gotcha argument into Escape hatch (Kept Separate)

They're the exact same thing. Merging them will allow for one unified — substantially better — article that mentions both terms. Reverend Black Percy (talk) 06:40, 24 November 2016 (UTC)

I disagree, even though you can yell "gotcha" when playing the escape hatch they're quite different. My interpretation is that an escape hatch is defensive response intended to avoid the burden of proof, but a "gotcha" argument is an offensive argument intended to back your opponent into defending an untenable position.

Claims of "gotcha" journalism can easily be their own escape hatch, but not all escape hatches are a reaction to "gotcha" arguments. I think it's important to recognise that a lot of criticism of "gotcha" journalism is a lazy attempt at building a persecution narrative, whereas the escape hatch in general is usually a more explicit abuse of Pyrrhonism. MVHVTMV (talk) 20:10, 7 December 2016 (UTC)

Merge Nuclear power with Nuclear energy(merged)

They're on the same thing. —Bigljbigl (talk/stalk) 11:36, 4 August 2017 (UTC)

Especially since the nuclear energy page is basically the nuclear power page but less deep.Vorarchivist (talk) 03:05, 18 August 2017 (UTC)

I suggest the nuclear energy page be changed to a link to the nuclear power page (as Vorarchivist said the nuclear power page is superior). —вιgℓʝвιgℓ (ᴛᴀʟᴋ/sᴛᴀʟᴋ) 18:44, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

I agree. Let's fuse them! Nerd271 (talk) 21:39, 26 August 2017 (UTC)

Traditionalist Workers Party and Matthew Heimbach (merged)

Obvious. 32℉uzzy; 0℃atPotato (talk/stalk) 16:15, 27 August 2017 (UTC)

Yes, should definitely be merged. Bongolian (talk) 20:28, 27 August 2017 (UTC)

Gluten-free and Gluten(merged)

There's a lot of overlap (obviously) between these two articles. I think they would benefit from being consolidated into the Gluten-free article. Bongolian (talk) 18:48, 31 May 2017 (UTC)

I don't think there's any major woo about gluten that wouldn't be covered in gluten-free. Go for it. Fuzzy "Cat" Potato, Jr. (talk/stalk) 19:46, 31 May 2017 (UTC)

I've seen quite a few open-and-shut duplicates in my day, but this one probably takes the cake. (Meaning; I support the proposition to merge ) Reverend Black Percy (talk) 19:50, 31 May 2017 (UTC)

OK, done! But was that a gluten-free cake? 😉 Bongolian (talk) 03:55, 1 June 2017 (UTC)

*flips desk* 😠 Reverend Black Percy (talk) 12:10, 1 June 2017 (UTC)

Replication crisis and Reproducibility(merged)

Largely synonymous topics and both are stubs. Reproducibility is mentioned twice in the replication crisis article, I think reproducibility should be the page with a section on replication crisis leaving behind a redirect. Also if someone else would please be willing to add the tag to the two pages I would appreciate it, as I'm vandal binned and don't want to set back the clock an hour or two doing minor maintenance tasks when I could be using that time to prove I can write original content and hopefully be unbinned. X-Factor (talk) 15:26, 9 June 2017 (UTC)

I've added the duplicate tags and support the merge, nothing stopping them being separate articles in the future if it gets too long though. Christopher (talk) 15:34, 9 June 2017 (UTC)

Done.-【ＤｉａｍｏｎｄＤｉｓｃ１】 (talk) 03:14, 23 June 2017 (UTC)

Merge Deep South Paranormal with other ghost hunting TV shows(merged)

into one page.-【ＤｉａｍｏｎｄＤｉｓｃ１】 (talk) 05:11, 21 June 2017 (UTC)

seconded!ClickerClock (talk) 05:26, 21 June 2017 (UTC)

thirded Leuders (talk) 12:34, 21 June 2017 (UTC)

A reasonable idea. It could make for a good single article rather than several so-so ones. Bongolian (talk) 17:01, 21 June 2017 (UTC)

Wot say: User:Leuders/sandbox. Leuders (talk) 17:52, 21 June 2017 (UTC)

Good job, pull the trigger. Mʀ. Wʜɪsᴋᴇʀs, Esϙᴜɪʀᴇ (talk/stalk) 22:37, 21 June 2017 (UTC)

Go for it. Bongolian (talk) 22:59, 21 June 2017 (UTC)

Done and done. Leuders (talk) 00:59, 22 June 2017 (UTC)

Merge the Oncologist article with the Cancer article(merged)

The Oncologist article is a stub and since oncologists treat cancer, that could be a section in the Cancer article.-【ＤｉａｍｏｎｄＤｉｓｃ１】 (talk) 03:15, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

Agree. Oncologist is not likely to ever be more than a stub. Bongolian (talk) 04:33, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

Merge Panspermia with Aliensdidit (separate)

Panspermia is a stub and the two pages are related.-【ＤｉａｍｏｎｄＤｉｓｃ１】 (talk) 23:56, 7 July 2017 (UTC)

Disagree. [1] Aliensdidit is a subsection of the didit fallacy and [2] Panspermia isn't necessarily caused by intelligent aliens. (Meteoric dispersal of debris is an example of another method.) Cømяade FυzzчCαтPøтαтø (talk/stalk) 00:52, 8 July 2017 (UTC)

Fuzzy is correct here. Panspermia can have non-alien versions. ^{— Unsigned, by: Bicycle Wheel / talk / contribs} 04:40, 19 July 2017

Kept separate @DiamondDisc1. The FCP Foundation (talk/stalk) 11:26, 25 July 2017 (UTC)

Merge New Jersey with Fun:New Jersey (merged)

We don't need two articles on New Jersey. None of the other states have this. The merged article would be in funspace, and like the other states, the mainspace article would just be replaced with a redirect. -Bigljbigl (talk/stalk) 21:48, 23 July 2017 (UTC)

Done. @Bigljbigl FuzzyCatPotato!™ (talk/stalk) 11:26, 25 July 2017 (UTC)

Quantum electrodynamics and Quantum chromodynamics into Quantum mechanics (merged)

Neither QED nor QCD is particularly large, interesting, or likely to be expanded. We are not an encyclopedia, and we don't need articles on things that WP can explain way better than us.--JorisEnter (talk) 07:59, 10 October 2016 (UTC)

I agree. We should merge than all into a grand unified article. Nerd271 (talk) 12:54, 10 October 2016 (UTC)

I agree as well. QED and QCD are great examples of overly specific encyclopedic topics that are not missional outside of sourced, contextual coverage in articles like quantum woo. Reverend Black Percy (talk) 13:06, 10 October 2016 (UTC)

Done.-【ＤｉａｍｏｎｄＤｉｓｃ１】 (talk) 03:05, 14 August 2017 (UTC)

Merge the 0th, 1st, and 2nd laws of thermodynamics with laws of thermodynamics (merged)

The articles are basically stubs and would be good as one article.-【ＤｉａｍｏｎｄＤｉｓｃ１】 (talk) 02:57, 14 August 2017 (UTC)

I second the motion. —вιgℓʝвιgℓ (тαℓк/ѕтαℓк) 22:10, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

makes perfect sense, I don't think that these are going to get big enough on their own

Merge Aqdas with Baha'i (merged)

Or at least expand Aqdas by a lot.-【ＤｉａｍｏｎｄＤｉｓｃ１】 (talk) 00:17, 25 July 2017 (UTC)

make sense with the current state of the Aqdas page Vorarchivist (talk) 03:05, 18 August 2017 (UTC)

Merge bi-curious with bisexual (merged)

bi-curious can easily fit in as a section of bisexual, it hasn't been significantly updated for half a decade and I can't imaging it requiring its own article in the future. Vorarchivist (talk) 02:56, 18 August 2017 (UTC)

I totally agree.-【ＤｉａｍｏｎｄＤｉｓｃ１】 (talk) 20:36, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

Human Varieties be merged with John Fuerst (merged)

Human Varieties is a blog run by John Fuerst, and it is one of his handful of mouthpieces.—Hamburguesa con queso con un cara  (talk • stalk) 00:31, 20 August 2017 (UTC)

Seconded.-【ＤｉａｍｏｎｄＤｉｓｃ１】 (talk) 03:01, 23 August 2017 (UTC)

Someone else did it. Mʀ. Wʜɪsᴋᴇʀs, Esϙᴜɪʀᴇ (talk/stalk) 03:43, 23 August 2017 (UTC)

Me.—Hamburguesa con queso con un cara  (talk • stalk) 04:03, 23 August 2017 (UTC)

Merge Zoe Quinn and Gamergate (redirect)

The Zoe Quinn article is literally 3 sentences and would do better in the Gamergate article.-【ＤｉａｍｏｎｄＤｉｓｃ１】 (talk) 05:30, 22 August 2017 (UTC)

Nothing worth merging. Redirected. Herr FuzzyKatzenPotato (talk/stalk) 03:29, 23 August 2017 (UTC)

Merge Genocide conspiracy with white genocide (separate)

I don't think they should be merged as although one covers general genocide conspiracies while the other a specific genocide conspiracy they are separate enough to have their own articles and also white genocide has too much text to be treated as a subtopic.Vorarchivist (talk) 16:11, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

Kept separate -- moved out the black genocide stuff. Fuzzy "Cat" Potato, Jr. (talk/stalk) 04:07, 23 August 2017 (UTC)

Merge red state, blue state, and Purple America (merged)

The articles are kind of small on their own, and could just be three parts of an article on "Red states, blue states, and purple states". They're all on the same topic, and would be nice as one article. —вιgℓʝвιgℓ (ᴛᴀʟᴋ/sᴛᴀʟᴋ) 11:01, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

agreed, seems to me that the current articles for blue and red states can be merged into Purple America. Vorarchivist (talk) 15:44, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

Done.-【ＤｉａｍｏｎｄＤｉｓｃ１】 (talk) 02:35, 24 August 2017 (UTC)

Merging microevolution and macroevolution into novel article "Micro- and macroevolution" (merged)

The distinctions between these two terms are only made by Creationists. Science sees "macroevolution" as the accumulation of "microevolutionary changes" over sufficient timespans. The terms are in use only by creationists, who mean to imply that "microevolution is indeed proven, BUT since the cosmos is young, there hasn't been time for macroevolution to occur". Regardless, the articles re-state the same things almost verbatim. Let's merge them, please. Reverend Black Percy (talk) 11:59, 12 December 2016 (UTC)

Call it Microevolution and macroevolution and yep, +1 - David Gerard (talk) 13:12, 12 December 2016 (UTC)

Absolutely. The two don't really have any "independent" meaning, and refuting one of them means refuting either (kind of like a priori and a posteriori).--JorisEnter (talk) 13:59, 12 December 2016 (UTC)

It is OK to merge these two subjects, but I think you're overstating the case that they "are only made by Creationists", Percy @Reverend Black Percy. According to WP (Macroevolution), the terms were coined by Russian entomologist Yuri Filipchenko, and the concepts were brought into unity by the modern synthesis of evolution. One could reject the modern synthesis without embracing creationism, and Eugene M. McCarthy seems to be one such person, with his "stabilization theory".[1] Bongolian (talk) 23:53, 25 July 2017 (UTC)

Just the type of clarifying content that belongs in a merged future article. That being said, however — under the assumption of the default level of Creationist rhetoric being in play, I will argue that in their sense, the consequence of the terms 'macroevolution' and 'microevolution' imply (to Creationists) something utterly different from the academic usage you discuss above. Keep in mind that Creationists reason on a level of "dogs make dogs, correct?". Reverend Black Percy (talk) 00:38, 26 July 2017 (UTC)

These have now been merged. Bongolian (talk) 06:40, 30 July 2017 (UTC)

Strategic Autism Initiative Into Andrew Wakefield (merged)

SAI is a forever stub. —LJL (ᴛᴀʟᴋ/sᴛᴀʟᴋ) 19:08, 25 August 2017 (UTC)

Done.-【ＤｉａｍｏｎｄＤｉｓｃ１】 (talk) 23:34, 25 August 2017 (UTC)

Merge Brain and Neuroscience (merged)

Neuroscience is the study of the brain, also neuroscience is a stub and no one ever expands stubs around here.-【ＤｉａｍｏｎｄＤｉｓｃ１】 (talk) 19:21, 26 August 2017 (UTC)

Squeeze that squishy thing! Nerd271 (talk) 21:38, 26 August 2017 (UTC)

Joseph McCarthy and McCarthyism

The McCarthyism article is [1] a history of pre-McCarthy red-scaring, [2] McCarthy's red-scaring, and [3] people reacting to McCarthy's red-scaring. All content would fit in McCarthy's article. FU22YC47P07470 (talk/stalk) 23:25, 21 June 2017 (UTC)

That's reasonable. It might make for a better article when combined. Bongolian (talk) 23:30, 21 June 2017 (UTC)

Likewise. Merging them better fulfills our mission here at RW. Nerd271 (talk) 00:16, 22 June 2017 (UTC)

sounds reasonable, no real reason to keep them apart.Vorarchivist (talk) 03:05, 18 August 2017 (UTC)

Done. FᴜᴢᴢʏCᴀᴛPᴏᴛᴀᴛᴏ, Esϙᴜɪʀᴇ (talk/stalk) 09:13, 23 August 2017 (UTC)

Merge List of fallacious quotes by homeopaths with Homeopathy

This shouldn't be merged since it would just look awful if we get 10+ quotes. We should probably link the two if the List of fallacious quotes by homeopaths page gets to be more substantial. Vorarchivist (talk) 16:11, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

Done with Evidence for homeopathy. FᴜᴢᴢʏCᴀᴛPᴏᴛᴀᴛᴏ, Esϙᴜɪʀᴇ (talk/stalk) 03:39, 23 August 2017 (UTC)

Merging Pious fraud with Lying for Jesus and possibly also Taqiyya. (Merged)

These cover the same basic concept, that of lying for your particular abrahamitic monotheism, and indeed a merger that includes Taqiyya appears to me as completely rational from the atheist's perspective, especially considering how these two religions are practically inbred in terms of their origins. The actual concept of these "sacred lies" is, furthermore, inherently similar in both religions, and a full merger might help to combat a recent ignorant trend I've seen of people treating Taqiyya like there's no equivalent in Christianity. When there most certainly is. (Also, regardless of what we do with Taqiyya in terms of merging, it's to me obvious that - if nothing else - PF and LfJ belong together). Reverend Black Percy (talk) 20:21, 11 March 2016 (UTC)

Sounds sensible - David Gerard (talk) 12:07, 12 March 2016 (UTC)

Taqiyya seems more typically used to survive in Muslim-unfriendly regions rather than to proselytize, though. 141.134.75.236 (talk) 16:10, 12 March 2016 (UTC)

It does have usage in the same way as Lieing for Jesus. I support the merge. oʇɐʇoԀʇɐϽʎzznℲ (talk/stalk) 14:43, 17 March 2016 (UTC)

Pious fraud & lying for Jesus, fine. Taqiyya is a pretty long article with a lot of Qu'ran quotes which would be rather an odd digression if merged into a general article about pious fraud. I think the pious fraud article should include a short section on taqiyya, summarising it & {{main}}-linking to the taqiyya article which should be a separate page in category:Islam. Also, IMO, the taqiyya article should be expanded include some examples of how Islamophobes (within the Christian right + New Atheism) have cited taqiyya in recent years as a justification for distrusting Muslims, something it currently touches on only briefly. ₩€₳$€£ΘĪÐ^{Methinks it is a Weasel} 12:46, 20 March 2016 (UTC)

I'd merge the first 2 as Weaseloid says above, unless someone can explain why Pious fraud is different from Lying for Jesus; both articles seem similar and both reference the book Liars for Jesus (which could arguably be merged as well if you feel we don't have enough debates). Annquin (talk) 13:15, 18 April 2016 (UTC)

^. αδελφός ΓυζζγςατΡοτατο (talk/stalk) 00:08, 19 August 2016 (UTC)

I still question the logic of classifying "pious fraud" and "lying for Jesud" as qualitatively different from "taqiyya". I dislike the message that Muslims are 'of particular deceit'. The fact is, all three desert desert dogmas (Christianity, Judaism and Islam) contain certain theological allowances for the same. Reverend Black Percy (talk) 13:12, 22 July 2017 (UTC)

Merge Madalyn Murray O'Hair and American atheists (merged)

-【ＤｉａｍｏｎｄＤｉｓｃ１】 (talk) 04:15, 28 August 2017 (UTC)

Seems reasonable. Bongolian (talk) 06:58, 28 August 2017 (UTC)