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Herein goeth anything regarding the technicalities of the wiki

  • Problems with accessing/editing the wiki
  • Problems with MediaWiki/HTML/CSS/Javascript/etc.
  • Questions about RW's configuration/extensions/servers/etc.
  • In short, anything tech-y goes here

External links:

Semi-frequent updates about RW's technical status are available at RationalWiki's blogspot.
To view or suggest changes to configuration files and MediaWiki extensions, see RationalWiki's GitHub.


Users with Tech rights: see Special:ListUsers/tech
Users with root on the servers: David Gerard (dgerard@gmail.com) and Tmtoulouse

If your IP is blocked from editing as an open proxy: You need to go to your provider about it. The lists we use are xbl.spamhaus.org, dnsbl.tornevall.org, all.s5h.net. If your IP is on one of these lists, then your provider has a serious problem they need to resolve. We cannot get your ISP out of the blacklist.

Subsection link (sticky)[edit]

What extension does Wikipedia use to get the subsection links next to each subsection title? The FCP Foundation (talk/stalk) 13:39, 24 July 2017 (UTC)

What r u talking about? ClickerClock (talk) 04:45, 10 September 2017 (UTC)
I think Fuzzy means the "§" link that appears next to the headings, that links to the anchor for that heading. (once again, memorising the ASCII code for section signs comes in handy!) —Kazitor, pending 08:28, 16 November 2017 (UTC)

@FuzzyCatPotato, yall happy now?

See the main article on this topic: Goat § What to do with a Goat and a stool

Encyclopedia § EtymologyWikipedia's W.svg See the Wikipedia article on Encyclopedia § Ancient times. —ClickerClock (talk) 05:24, 17 November 2017 (UTC)

Not what I meant... I mean, that's really good :) But I recall there once being a § link next to the actual sections on a page. I'm not sure where it went. —Kazitor, pending 05:35, 17 November 2017 (UTC)
I have no idea what you mean. —ClickerClock (talk) 05:44, 17 November 2017 (UTC)
Like, on the page there is a heading that says "Subsection link (sticky)". Next to it, either before or after the "edit" link, there was a single, grey "§" link that appended the appropriate anchor to the URL, e.g. §. —Kazitor, pending 06:13, 17 November 2017 (UTC)
Screenshot? —ClickerClock (talk) 12:34, 6 December 2017 (UTC)

Subsections playing up (sticky)[edit]


I've seen this a few times, it was this revision and the wikitext seems normal. Christopher (talk) 09:33, 4 September 2017 (UTC)

The error occurs when a subsection is immediately before the end of a page. I'd bet that this is a result of the MediaWiki upgrade, but I've really no idea. Fuzzy. Cat. Potato! (talk/stalk) 17:06, 4 September 2017 (UTC)
And as these edits should make clear, this only occurs on certain pages. It could also be a template -- maybe something didn't close a div or a span and it's fucking with the subsections. Herr FuzzyKatzenPotato (talk/stalk) 17:07, 4 September 2017 (UTC)
This is not a result of the recent upgrade. This has been an issue for years.—Hamburguesa con queso con un cara Spinning-Burger.gif (talkstalk) 17:09, 4 September 2017 (UTC)

Captcha (edition 94)[edit]

Not a request for help, but pointing out a curiosity: why do I need to do a captcha at work, with a longstanding IP, but not here at home, with a new IP (beyond just ticking "I am not a robot")? Firefox there, chrome here, btw. (talk) 15:11, 18 July 2018 (UTC) (Sophie)

The CAPTCHA is reCAPTCHA, which does its own checks. It's not just ticking a box, I think it looks at mouse movements among other things. I wouldn't be surprised if doing it a lot from home makes it less suspicious of you. —Kazitor Kazitor sig pic.png 22:29, 18 July 2018 (UTC)
The NoCaptcha/ReCaptcha service is supplied by Google. Chrome is Google, Firefox is Mozilla. Anyway Google built a number of identity verification and user tracking features into Chrome which allow it to play nice with Google services where other browsers don't. The NoCaptcha service is tracking your useragent among other things (so it knows your machine and browser), your IP address is no longer a primary factor, to the extent they don't even use it as the primary tracker if they can tag your browser identifier or advertising ID. Google will give you a better NoCaptcha experience if you use their products. (because browser racism)
Google knows that you are not a robot before you even finish loading the page, and contrary to popular belief the checkbox doesn't actually do anything. Your machine and identity details are collected on pageview, and keyboard/mouse movements are being tracked by background scripts, all of which work independently and without the checkbox. Also bear in mind that Google almost certainly knows your home address (they have algorithms to figure it out from your location history), so Kazitor's point about being at home being less suspicious is also a factor, if I travel they will send me alerts about my activity, they are pretty good at that.
In truth there is no reason for the image verification thing they do either, since that is also not used as a direct measure of your humanity, but in fact is training a Google car AI program (it used to be training an OCR program, but thats done now). It's main use is to be difficult for bots to fill out without a background script figuring out its a bot, the images themselves are mainly not relevant, and are cross referenced only against other people for being correct, if all people presented with it gave the wrong answer, Google would accept that, and if the first few people gave the wrong answer, all subsequent users would have to get it wrong in the same way to pass.
The main reason it has the fiddly checkbox is because people feel better about a box they tick than the idea that Google is monitoring their entire lives across almost every website they visit, and that google knows every detail of their device, location, and behaviour. ^_^ This message is approved by Dysklyver Gears.png Ensign of the Duke of Cornwall.svg (brebmyn) 23:30, 23 July 2018 (UTC)
Since it doesn't seem to be stopping the spambots anyway, do you think it should be replaced with something else? Something not affiliated with Google, hopefully... —Kazitor Kazitor sig pic.png 10:06, 24 July 2018 (UTC)
To be honest the options are rather limited. According to the manual there is something called QuestyCaptcha which asks questions, but it would not take long for spambots to crack this. Wikimedia uses FancyCaptcha which is apparently "used by very few wikis outside WMF if any, probably because of scarce effectiveness." So not promising. I don't think any of the other options are as effective as Google's service.
The only truly effective way I ever found to 'stop' spam was to do what I did on wiki.org.uk (a much smaller wiki). Which was to use the Google captcha and force all new users to have their edits approved via a moderation tool, except on talk pages. I also disabled IP editing, but that was actually for GDPR compliance and not for anti-spam. I am not sure that this setup would work well here, because it doesn't really cut down the amount of patrolling work much, it's main benefit is that you have a clean site if you aren't their all the time. It might also discourage new people from joining, and discourage people from drive by commenting. ^_^ This message is approved by Dysklyver Gears.png Ensign of the Duke of Cornwall.svg (brebmyn) 10:52, 24 July 2018 (UTC)
"it would not take long for spambots to crack this" Not true, as the bots aren't specifically targeting this site. I find it's highly effective in most cases to just design your own really simple captcha that the bots don't (and won't) know about. —Kazitor Kazitor sig pic.png 11:15, 24 July 2018 (UTC)
It would probably be a good idea then. Even if only to get rid of the Google spyware service. There's then the question of which to use, I personally think QuestyCaptcha looks good, but FancyCaptcha could be an option also. ^_^ This message is approved by Dysklyver Gears.png Ensign of the Duke of Cornwall.svg (brebmyn) 12:22, 24 July 2018 (UTC)

Content dumps (sticky)[edit]

All of the internal links to backups on RationalWiki:Content dumps fail. Also, what is the status of @David Gerard's archive.org port? Bongolian (talk) 02:15, 29 August 2018 (UTC)

yeah, they're all old. No, haven't pushed that forward at all, sorry - David Gerard (talk) 12:27, 29 August 2018 (UTC)
@David Gerard reminder to do this -- might be convenient to do on same day you take elections live FuzzyCatPotato of the Depressed Antibacterials (talk/stalk)

Tried to edit two completely different pages, got flagged as spam both times, absolutely no clue why (closed)[edit]

So I recently tried to edit the pages for Revolutionary Communist Party (USA) and Autism, and got flagged as spam both times. With the RCP page, the edit was very slightly intended to diss the organization, so I figured maybe some disparaging word I used got caught (I’m new to editing so I have no idea how the spam filter works), and maybe the fact that it was an article with many unsourced statements, including the one I was trying to add, may mean the filter was overly sensitive. Then when I tried to edit the Autism page a few minutes later, I added general info about the state of autism research, took great pains to include a reliable source (and to avoid veering away from the source too much in what I said), and STILL got flagged! What could possibly be going on? — Unsigned, by: AspieLeftist / talk / contribs

If you don't mind, can you try to screencap the contents you're trying to add, if the page refuses to save your edits? --It's-a me, 🎄LeftyGreenMario!🎄(Mod) 23:12, 29 October 2018 (UTC)
Resolved: @AspieLeftist Username triggered filter. Sir ℱ℧ℤℤϒℂᗩℑᑭƠℑᗩℑƠ (talk/stalk) 15:04, 18 November 2018 (UTC)

Editing Without Account (closed)[edit]

I have made some contributions to Catalonia and gave my reasoning in the edit summaries. However, all of it got reverted by a user with no explanation. Did that happen just because I am not logged in? or do I have to notify everyone in the talk page first before changing anything? (talk) 14:54, 3 November 2018 (UTC)

I removed your edit to the article in question because the explanation you gave doesn't appear to be justified in removing referenced content from the article. I suggest you explain your rationale in the article's talk page and back it up with a citation or two. Cosmikdebris (talk) 15:01, 3 November 2018 (UTC)
Resolved: @ moderation issue, not technical issue FᴜᴢᴢʏCᴀᴛPᴏᴛᴀᴛᴏ, Esϙᴜɪʀᴇ (talk/stalk) 15:05, 18 November 2018 (UTC)

Restrict userpage creation (closed unless anyone wants to fuck over the n00bs again)[edit]

Basically, edit filter, stop new users making userpages with links, foil spambot, simple. ^_^ This message is approved by Dysklyver Gears.png Ensign of the Duke of Cornwall.svg (brebmyn) 13:05, 18 November 2018 (UTC)

let me check the filters FuzzyCatPotato of the Inept Audis (talk/stalk) 21:29, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
tldr the filter that just did that got too many false positives (of new uers making a userpage) so we've the more complicated filters that let maybe 1 in 20 slip thru @Dyskyver Sir ℱ℧ℤℤϒℂᗩℑᑭƠℑᗩℑƠ (talk/stalk) 21:29, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
I should probably have a look at the filter sometime then. For future reference I was imagining the following. ^_^ This message is approved by Dysklyver Gears.png Ensign of the Duke of Cornwall.svg (brebmyn) 01:13, 19 November 2018 (UTC)


namespace "user"


edit contains string "http" or "://"


user less than 10 minutes old
<3 edits
not sysop/autopatarolled



@Dysklyver we used basically that code above before and it led to dozens of new, legit accts trying to make a userpage getting slammed. seems not worth it when it'd only stop 50% of botspam and it only saves like 10 clicks per day Fuzzy. Cat. Potato! (talk/stalk) 23:33, 20 November 2018 (UTC)

Resolved: Oh well. ^_^ This message is approved by Dysklyver Gears.png Ensign of the Duke of Cornwall.svg (brebmyn) 23:52, 20 November 2018 (UTC)

Voter suppression (closed - no voters suppressed)[edit]

I went to the voting booth and it said I've already voted, but I didn't. Help pls ;-; സ്പ്രിഗിന (സംസാരം) (സംഭാവനകൾ) @ 00:11, 20 November 2018 (UTC)

Same here. RoninMacbeth (talk) 00:13, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
I was able to vote, but it seems other users have also experienced this - [1]. --RWRW (talk) 00:22, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
It says I've already voted, but I haven't. Cosmikdebris (talk) 00:26, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
I reported this problem to David Gerard, who thought he fixed it but apparently has not. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 02:26, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
FUCKING COMPUTERS. Just a tick ... - David Gerard (talk) 07:21, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
try now - David Gerard (talk) 07:23, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
I just managed to vote myself - David Gerard (talk) 07:52, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
@David Gerard Thank you, the voting function is working again. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 17:44, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
Same here. Thanks David! RoninMacbeth (talk) 18:39, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
Works now. Thanks David. Cosmikdebris (talk) 19:14, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
Resolved: The election happened and was just fine once those pesky computers had been dealt with. ^_^ This message is approved by Dysklyver Gears.png Ensign of the Duke of Cornwall.svg (brebmyn) 16:28, 27 November 2018 (UTC)

Raw URL rendered at the end of a citation is displayed[edit]

  • If possible, do not display the raw URL that is rendered at the end of a citation.

Per Template:cite book —the raw URL is rendered at the end of the citation.


  • {{cite book|author=Mark Twain|title=Adventures of Huckleberry Finn: (Tom Sawyer's Comrade)|url=https://books.google.com/books?id=zuvXAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA3|year=1885|publisher=Collectors Reprints Incorporated}}


  • Mark Twain (1885). Adventures of Huckleberry Finn: (Tom Sawyer's Comrade). Collectors Reprints Incorporated. https://books.google.com/books?id=zuvXAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA3.

Rules are defined in MediaWiki:Common.css to control the appearance of citations.

  • Example

The raw URL is rendered at the end of the citation, but is hidden except when printed.

/* For linked citation numbers and document IDs, where
   the number need not be shown on a screen or a handheld,
   but should be included in the printed version */
@media screen, handheld {
    .citation *.printonly {
        display: none;

Dbz (talk) 03:48, 20 November 2018 (UTC)

Time Zones (closed)[edit]

In the Saloon Bar, @Spud made an excellent suggestion that Holydaze Templates be made time zone-sensitive. People do come here from all over the planet after all. Can someone with the technical know-how please get that done? Thanks! Nerd (talk) 15:20, 23 November 2018 (UTC)

Unfortunately this is not really possible because the RationalWiki server does not currently have anything that actively tracks the location of it's users. Theoretically we could hack together some javascript or an extension to start doing this, but it seems pretty evil to me. ^_^ This message is approved by Dysklyver Gears.png Ensign of the Duke of Cornwall.svg (brebmyn) 15:22, 25 November 2018 (UTC)
Oh, bugger. It is not possible to anonymously locate users? Nerd (talk) 15:25, 25 November 2018 (UTC)
Technically yes, but it involves a process intensive javascript thingy being loaded on every page so the users own browser does the work. This would have a performance impact on the entire site. Otherwise all the other options basically involve the RW server collecting the users IP address and sending that to a geolocation lookup service. Wikipedia does this with a geo cookie and some other tracking functions. ^_^ This message is approved by Dysklyver Gears.png Ensign of the Duke of Cornwall.svg (brebmyn) 15:37, 25 November 2018 (UTC)
I`m not in favor of doing such a thing. Isn't RW supposed to be against tracking?--Don Juan (talk) 14:42, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
Resolved: Tracking is evil. No obvious easy workaround right now. ^_^ This message is approved by Dysklyver Gears.png Ensign of the Duke of Cornwall.svg (brebmyn) 16:29, 27 November 2018 (UTC)


This is for the two people with server access. I think it should be considered. To improve password security, make $wgPasswordAttemptThrottle more restrictive, and add a $wgPasswordPolicy value, maybe a MinimalPasswordLength of 8 or 10 characters. ^_^ This message is approved by Dysklyver Gears.png Ensign of the Duke of Cornwall.svg (brebmyn) 16:08, 27 November 2018 (UTC)

"Should be considered" and "improve security" is not clear enough. What's your specific concern? That user accounts are vulnerable to hijacking? ikanreed 🐐Bleat at me 16:23, 27 November 2018 (UTC)
Nevermind, I saw the saloon bar post. ikanreed 🐐Bleat at me 16:26, 27 November 2018 (UTC)
set the following:
$wgPasswordAttemptThrottle = [ [ 'count' => 3, 'seconds' => 60 ], [ 'count' => 10, 'seconds' => 300 ], [ 'count' => 50, 'seconds' => 60*60*48 ], ];
let's see how it goes - David Gerard (talk) 22:32, 30 November 2018 (UTC)
Seems good to me. ^_^ This message is approved by Dysklyver Gears.png Ensign of the Duke of Cornwall.svg (brebmyn) 13:32, 1 December 2018 (UTC)
actually I'll just make that 5 => 300 - David Gerard (talk) 20:50, 1 December 2018 (UTC)

Supremely important bot[edit]

Kazitor seems to have gone LANCB. The User:Archiver page suggests that Kazitor probably had a very high bus factor and that Archiver is now stuffed on a permanent basis. Who is the backup? ^_^ This message is approved by Dysklyver Gears.png Ensign of the Duke of Cornwall.svg (brebmyn) 13:37, 1 December 2018 (UTC)

@FuzzyCatPotato ran the archiver for a while, yes? - David Gerard (talk) 20:49, 1 December 2018 (UTC)
Which of us should run it now? I'd be interested but I`m too much of a lazy bastard to actually put all of my time into RW, I`m content with fucking around with the edit filter.--Don Juan (talk) 20:51, 1 December 2018 (UTC)
@David Gerard Correct. But Kazitor took over.
@Dysklyver I volunteer. But I will have to be trained. How difficult is it? Nerd (talk) 21:00, 1 December 2018 (UTC)
I have no idea. I don't even know where the code is or where the bot is hosted/was hosted or even if it is hosted, as it may be a run-yourself item. Basically we need to find the bot itself, and find someone to run it. ^_^ This message is approved by Dysklyver Gears.png Ensign of the Duke of Cornwall.svg (brebmyn) 21:34, 1 December 2018 (UTC)
Can't someone come up with a new bot that fulfills the exact same function? Or just ask FCP for the source code or where it is hosted the next time he comes around.--Don Juan (talk) 22:22, 1 December 2018 (UTC)
The sensible thing to do would be to put the code on Github so it doesn't get lost, unless it is already there, and then link to it from here so it can easily be found and run by anyone. ^_^ This message is approved by Dysklyver Gears.png Ensign of the Duke of Cornwall.svg (brebmyn) 22:26, 1 December 2018 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── @Dysklyver Well, if you scroll down to the bottom, Kazitor said he would give the login information to a "trustworthy" person in case of his departure. However, the last time the bot operated was just a few days ago. Kazitor may not be particularly active right now but that does not necessarily mean he is not operating the bot. Nerd (talk) 22:34, 1 December 2018 (UTC)

It's a bot, it may simply operate automatically until wherever it is running from is switched off. I can simply use the renaming tool to free up the username if it's needed, the issue is only the bot/code itself. ^_^ This message is approved by Dysklyver Gears.png Ensign of the Duke of Cornwall.svg (brebmyn) 22:37, 1 December 2018 (UTC)
In that case, you should contact FuzzyCatPotato and Kazitor directly. Nerd (talk) 22:46, 1 December 2018 (UTC)

to anyone interested @Nerd @Dysklyver @Don Juan

[1] create account with bot perms [2] install pywikibot [3] run pywikibot setup.py for non-Wikimedia Foundation wiki and using {{Talkpage/Pibot}} (i forget the details but is very easy) [4] edit archivebot.py according to User:Archivist#archivebot.py [5] schedule to run every day or so (eg crontab on linux)

The FCP Foundation (talk/stalk) 02:52, 2 December 2018 (UTC)

By "bot perms" did you mean "bot permissions"? How do I do that? I cannot give an account bot permissions. I'm just a Sysop, not a Tech. Nerd (talk) 03:06, 2 December 2018 (UTC)
@Nerd either [1] ask for tech perms from a mod or [2] ask a tech to give the user bot perms Cømяade FυzzчCαтPøтαтø (talk/stalk) 08:11, 2 December 2018 (UTC)
@Nerd @Dysklyver @FuzzyCatPotato I`m setting up the bot right now.--Don Juan (talk) 14:59, 2 December 2018 (UTC)
@Don Juan Thank you, and good luck! Nerd (talk) 15:10, 2 December 2018 (UTC)
@Nerd You're welcome. Might take me a few days, my attention span ebbs and flows, but I've already started the initial process, including downloading the most recently updated version of pywikibot by Gitbash, also I made sure to create an initial "archivist.py" file, for when I have everything set up, and I set up the account for the bot, as I said, I've taken the initial steps.--Don Juan (talk) 21:02, 2 December 2018 (UTC)

Filter testing[edit]

In a few minutes I`m going to create an account with an obscene username to test our filters, automatic and otherwise. If no-one responds, then people need to pay more attention to the "Recent Changes" log. I'll let you know that it's me, RW's least favorite dipshit, on the (hopefully) blocked user's talkpage.--Don Juan (talk) 08:12, 4 December 2018 (UTC)

Updated filter accordingly, apparently cocksucker was a valid username. Key word being was, because I updated the filters to compensate. Wait to see if the username triggers it or not, may have to log in again to trip it up, or someone, not being myself, blocks the account, but not the IP.--Don Juan (talk) 08:19, 4 December 2018 (UTC)
Teh filter will only on the createaccount action. That's why the filter blocks my username but doesn't block me all the time when I login and edit. ^_^ This message is approved by Dysklyver Gears.png Ensign of the Duke of Cornwall.svg (brebmyn) 11:50, 4 December 2018 (UTC)
Which is exactly what I was going for, anyone who wants to create an account with the elements "cock" and "suck" as part of their handle will be prevented from doing so.--Don Juan (talk) 13:32, 4 December 2018 (UTC)
I recommend against filtering out the word "dick", because the word "dick" also is a name, shorthand for "Richard".--Don Juan (talk) 13:42, 4 December 2018 (UTC)
Yeah I kinda think it is an unfortunate name. I mean you wouldn't name your child "penis" unless you were a literal moron. ^_^ This message is approved by Dysklyver Gears.png Ensign of the Duke of Cornwall.svg (brebmyn) 13:50, 4 December 2018 (UTC)
Agreed, but thanks anyways for the new name for my unborn child.--Don Juan (talk) 14:12, 4 December 2018 (UTC)

Who the fuck decided swear words in usernames is bad in the first place?[edit]

What the fuck? What the hell kind of prudes are we now? And you're not even remotely ready to address the scunthorpe problem either. This seems like a terrible idea. Why are you doing it? ikanreed 🐐Bleat at me 15:21, 4 December 2018 (UTC)

I've disabled both the auto-reject and auto-block features of this edit filter. New filters are 100% "ask first" things. ikanreed 🐐Bleat at me 15:24, 4 December 2018 (UTC)
Heh. I dunno, maybe we were getting carried away. Nevertheless I have enabled warning only on the filter so anyone tripping it will be warned that their edit "could be harmful". ^_^ This message is approved by Dysklyver Gears.png Ensign of the Duke of Cornwall.svg (brebmyn) 15:36, 4 December 2018 (UTC)
I mean, if there was some plague of "fuck this wiki" wandals or whatever, I'd be okay with one we turn on for a week or something. But the existing edit filters scunthorpe a lot already. ikanreed 🐐Bleat at me 15:50, 4 December 2018 (UTC)
There are, I recommend keeping the (secret) and (secret) parts of the filter up for blocking, or just to create a new one with those in place. -- Don Juan (talk) 16:00, 4 December 2018 (UTC)
Agreed, but those are still there in the another filter, so it should be fine. ^_^ This message is approved by Dysklyver Gears.png Ensign of the Duke of Cornwall.svg (brebmyn) 16:33, 4 December 2018 (UTC)
And those filters do things like check newuser. ikanreed 🐐Bleat at me 16:40, 4 December 2018 (UTC)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────I mean, swear words are ususally a poor choice for a username just as words for bodily fluids anyway. I am not sure what's really the big deal of the filter though we should limit potential false positives these can generate. --It's-a me, 🎄LeftyGreenMario!🎄(Mod) 18:29, 4 December 2018 (UTC)

Let's not do a blanket ban. Not every use of every possible vulgarity is vulgar. Consider Cock RobinWikipedia's W.svg and All-day sucker.Wikipedia's W.svg Bongolian (talk) 19:18, 4 December 2018 (UTC) Also, we should never forget Dick Butkus.Wikipedia's W.svg Bongolian (talk) 23:24, 5 December 2018 (UTC)
The oolon filter is deleted now. Whoever that troll was quickly figured out how to bypass it and then got bored and went somewhere else. ^_^ This message is approved by Dysklyver Gears.png Ensign of the Duke of Cornwall.svg (brebmyn) 12:40, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
There's an old saying that has been passed down by generations of Internet users: "Don't feed the troll." Always works, should follow this sage advice more often. Ɖøn Ĵuan (talk) 12:44, 10 December 2018 (UTC)

Regarding my bot Archiver2[edit]

Python fucked up, missing a file, have to repair it. Finally decided to get off my lazy ass and do some work on the bot. I'll give project updates as we go along.--Don Juan (talk) 15:04, 6 December 2018 (UTC)